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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:11:31 PM EDT
The thread today talking about how Ruger will no longer be selling to CA brought this to my attention again.
Throughout the years I've seen a lot of shit talking here about Ruger's semi auto handguns and occasionally their rifles as well. I also listen to a radio show, Guns Over Texas, on Sundays and the hosts also talk shit about Ruger handguns from time to time. I've never heard anything specific just that they "suck". So what specifically sucks about them? Enlighten me. |
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I dont like their semi pistols but I'm a fan of the Mini 14. Rugers revolvers are the strongest and their rimfires and pretty great too.
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The thing to remember about the "gun culture" is the fact that about 80% of "gun owners" can't walk by a particularly tasty looking window without stopping for a few licks.
Idiots abound. |
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Quoted: and yet they make pistols with 15+ round cap and ar15s. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun" and yet they make pistols with 15+ round cap and ar15s. Not under Bill Ruger. Thank God he's gone or his company would be with him.
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People bitch about taking down Mark IIs. I've found it fine once you do it a few times.
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"no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun" View Quote As usual, FPNI. For 10 years, I paid $100/each for standard capacity pistol magazines and $30 for NIW USGI AR mag's thanks in large part to Bill Ruger. Now that Bill Ruger has passed and the company seems to have seen the error of it's ways, I once again am willing to buy Ruger firearms (10/22's, looking at a GSR). |
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So it's a second amendment thing? Not anything to do with the quality of their firearms? The reason I was wanting to know is because I've shot Rugers my whole life, my first .22 was a Ruger, and I've found them to be quality firearms. I've never had any problems with them.
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because fuck Bill Ruger, that's why.
I actually do a have a few, but never bought new. |
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I'm pretty sure the company survives off of the 10/22 and Mark I/II/III and some fooled Mini-15/30 owners. Their wheel guns are alright. Everything else is shit.
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Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94.
Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit.
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The thread today talking about how Ruger will no longer be selling to CA brought this to my attention again. Throughout the years I've seen a lot of shit talking here about Ruger's semi auto handguns and occasionally their rifles as well. I also listen to a radio show, Guns Over Texas, on Sundays and the hosts also talk shit about Ruger handguns from time to time. I've never heard anything specific just that they "suck". So what specifically sucks about them? Enlighten me. View Quote they hate them because; not glock. they are cheap. they are very reliable. my first handgun was a Ruger P94, still have it. great gun, accurate, extremely reliable. also own a redhawk .44mag, a SP101 .357 snubby and a 10/22. all great guns. |
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So it's a second amendment thing? Not anything to do with the quality of their firearms? The reason I was wanting to know is because I've shot Rugers my whole life, my first .22 was a Ruger, and I've found them to be quality firearms. I've never had any problems with them. View Quote I don't know what their quality used to be like but I love the guns I've had the luck of shooting, I really need to buy one or twelve of them! |
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Not under Bill Ruger. Thank God he's gone or his company would be with him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun" and yet they make pistols with 15+ round cap and ar15s. Not under Bill Ruger. Thank God he's gone or his company would be with him. The P85 was designed in 1985. He was willing to compromise at 15rds in order to screw Glock and save his own design. |
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Ford, Chevy.
XBox, PS. Smith and Wesson, Ruger. Smith and Wesson fanboys hate that Ruger makes stronger revolvers. |
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Quoted: So it's a second amendment thing? Not anything to do with the quality of their firearms? The reason I was wanting to know is because I've shot Rugers my whole life, my first .22 was a Ruger, and I've found them to be quality firearms. I've never had any problems with them. View Quote Ruger tried to placate the gun grabbers during the time leading up to the 94 ban. Now he is dead and cold, the company is headed in a much better, different direction, and some folks will STILL cut off their nose to spite their face. Rugers are fine. But if you find something you like that they make, buy it. They do add and drop stuff frequently. Ruger Safari Magnums and Gold Label shotguns come to mind. |
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I don't have any ruger firearms at the moment but have nothing against them anymore, Bill is dead and they seem to have seen the errors of their ways. time to move on
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Quoted: Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. View Quote Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. |
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Under the fat old fucker Bill he sold us all the fuck out in 94 along with S&W.
Thank god his fat old ass is dead and they are not making giant bricks of shit with under 10 rounds. |
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So it's a second amendment thing? Not anything to do with the quality of their firearms? The reason I was wanting to know is because I've shot Rugers my whole life, my first .22 was a Ruger, and I've found them to be quality firearms. I've never had any problems with them. View Quote Mostly snobbery. People look down on Rugers because they were always perceived as a budget oriented (yet functional) line. You chose a Ruger revolver because you couldn't afford a Colt or S&W. A 777 because you couldn't afford a 70 or 700, etc. |
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Capt_Rhodes, is your name actually rhodes, or is this a reference to the character from day of the dead?
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The awesomeness that is the BX-25 is payment enough considering Bill Ruger is now six feet under. The benefit that we need to look at now is that it would be industry suicide to pull that kind of stunt nowadays.
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I’m a big fan of theirs. Rock solid products and very good customer service. Fuck people that hang on to what some dead guy said. ymmv.
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So it's a second amendment thing? Not anything to do with the quality of their firearms? The reason I was wanting to know is because I've shot Rugers my whole life, my first .22 was a Ruger, and I've found them to be quality firearms. I've never had any problems with them. View Quote I have had a number of Rugers. The quality of the manufacturing is usually very good. However, several years ago, Bill Ruger made a statement that said that he favors 10-round magazine limits. That hurt his business a LOT. Lots of people refuse to let that go, even though he's dead now. One point: the Mini-14 has always had accuracy issues. After 3-4 rounds, you're lucky to hit a pie plate at 100 yards. The barrel heats up and gets very whippy. |
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Under the fat old fucker Bill he sold us all the fuck out in 94 along with S&W. Thank god his fat old ass is dead and they are not making giant bricks of shit with under 10 rounds. View Quote Bill Ruger had very little to do with the 1994 ban, the Democrat party had their sights set on banning mags long before Ruger said anything. Smith & Wesson had exactly jack motherfucking shit to do with the 94 ban and I don't know why people keep thinking they do. |
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Bill Ruger was the original Fudd, it is sad for me to say......I admired him before he fucked up.
Ruger firearms are awesome. I have several, all are flawless. The moron up top that referred to them as "redneck guns" is an idiot. |
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All the Ruger revolvers I've shot have been great in my opinion. Their rifles all have been of good quality that I've seen and shot too. The P series back in the day was extremely popular. I remember all the local law enforcement agencies carrying them except maybe the Sheriff's Dept. I even remember ever gun shop and pawn shop you walked in had some form of a P series pistol. What I don't remember seeing everywhere back then was Glock.
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Never held a Ruger Safari Magnum in 416 Rigby or 458 Lott I'm guessing? Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. Never held a Ruger Safari Magnum in 416 Rigby or 458 Lott I'm guessing? Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. +1 I have a #1 with a beautiful walnut stock & bluing. I think I paid about $500 for it. No way could you get anything close to that today. |
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Quoted: Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. Actually I have. And I'll be goddamned if a single red cent of mine ever fills the coffers of the fucking company. I would rather sharpen $2000 in pennies and swallow them than give them to anything associated with the lineage of that motherfucker. I'd gladly laugh and smile as they tore open my asshole knowing flushing poo covered bloody pennies into my septic was less of a waste then supporting those assholes. And if your argument is they are "good" or "best bargain" than that's not too credible to me since I'm a fucking gun snob. I don't buy cheap shit and I sure as fuck don't support those who stuck knives in our backs |
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Quoted: and yet they make pistols with 15+ round cap and ar15s. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun" and yet they make pistols with 15+ round cap and ar15s. They make "good enough" guns at prices that aren't much lower than guns that are plain good. I have no problem with Ruger firearms, but don't own any, because every time I have looked at one, I have found something I like better for the same price or only a small amount more. The only gun I bought that I kind of wish I had went with a Ruger instead was a Smith and Wesson Sigma 9, although after a couple of aftermarket springs were installed, and a little smoothing of trigger parts by a gunsmith the Sigma is pretty good (on the Sigma that makes it a POS, on the 10/22 that makes it versatile). |
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Quoted: Quoted: Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. What makes them a piece of shit? Name a gun and I'll tell you. Kind of sad when a company has been around for 50+ years and still the only decent gun they make is a .22 pistol.
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Never held a Ruger Safari Magnum in 416 Rigby or 458 Lott I'm guessing? Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. Actually I have. And I'll be goddamned if a single red cent of mine ever fills the coffers of the fucking company. I would rather sharpen $2000 in pennies and swallow them than give them to anything associated with the lineage of that motherfucker. I'd gladly laugh and smile as they tore open my asshole knowing flushing poo covered bloody pennies into my septic was less of a waste then supporting those assholes. And if your argument is they are "good" or "best bargain" than that's not too credible to me since I'm a fucking gun snob. I don't buy cheap shit and I sure as fuck don't support those who stuck knives in our backs View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Never held a Ruger Safari Magnum in 416 Rigby or 458 Lott I'm guessing? Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. Actually I have. And I'll be goddamned if a single red cent of mine ever fills the coffers of the fucking company. I would rather sharpen $2000 in pennies and swallow them than give them to anything associated with the lineage of that motherfucker. I'd gladly laugh and smile as they tore open my asshole knowing flushing poo covered bloody pennies into my septic was less of a waste then supporting those assholes. And if your argument is they are "good" or "best bargain" than that's not too credible to me since I'm a fucking gun snob. I don't buy cheap shit and I sure as fuck don't support those who stuck knives in our backs Dude, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about it. |
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Name a gun and I'll tell you. Kind of sad when a company has been around for 50+ years and still the only decent gun they make is a .22 pistol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Also they make piece of shit, redneck guns. Plus Bill was a cocksucking traitor piece of shit. What makes them a piece of shit? Name a gun and I'll tell you. Kind of sad when a company has been around for 50+ years and still the only decent gun they make is a .22 pistol. all of my rugers (listed above) function perfectly are accurate and reliable. none are a "POS" |
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One point: the Mini-14 has always had accuracy issues. After 3-4 rounds, you're lucky to hit a pie plate at 100 yards. The barrel heats up and gets very whippy. View Quote My tiny troglodyte brain just wondered if that's the real reason why Ruger made it difficult to get 20 & 30 rd mag |
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It took Colt forever and a day to figure out that it would be much wiser to market their rifles to us lowly civilians, but you don't see arfcommers pissing and moaning about them as much as they do a dead guys stance on mag capacity. Seems to be a double standard, but to each their own.
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Old Bill Ruger (May satan be fucking his ass in hell) fucked us in '94. Never held a Ruger Safari Magnum in 416 Rigby or 458 Lott I'm guessing? Good to exceptional Circassian walnut, integral quarter rib, express sights all for less than $1500 when they made them. Probably the best bargain in an off the shelf rifle from a big maker in the last 50 years. A rifle with the exact same features would cost 2-3X as much from a custom maker. Actually I have. And I'll be goddamned if a single red cent of mine ever fills the coffers of the fucking company. I would rather sharpen $2000 in pennies and swallow them than give them to anything associated with the lineage of that motherfucker. I'd gladly laugh and smile as they tore open my asshole knowing flushing poo covered bloody pennies into my septic was less of a waste then supporting those assholes. And if your argument is they are "good" or "best bargain" than that's not too credible to me since I'm a fucking gun snob. I don't buy cheap shit and I sure as fuck don't support those who stuck knives in our backs Dude, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about it. No shit right ? The man is on a roll with the Ruger bashing and I'm laughing my ass off over here. |
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People bitch about taking down Mark IIs. I've found it fine once you do it a few times. Fine as in...sucks...if so I agree. This, but I love their revolvers, their .22's, and their rifles except the Mini-14 POS. Hard to find more rugged firearms at reasonable prices. So, no Ruger hate here. |
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