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Posted: 3/1/2016 11:18:19 AM EDT
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/29/dark-tower-rises-stephen-king-idris-elba-and-matthew-mcconaughey

Now I'm going to have to reread a few of them picturing Idris as Roland. I always had a young Clint Eastwood in my mind. I would have never pictured Matthew McConaughey as the man in black. Two great actors, I'm betting it's going to be awesome.

What revolver do you picture in your mind with you think of Roland?

Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:19:20 AM EDT
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How progressive of them.  It makes no sense.
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maybe he can be gay too
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:26:46 AM EDT
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Is King going to play himself? (that part was so retarded)
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:27:00 AM EDT
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The Dark Tower books were just awful.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:28:44 AM EDT
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a black guy as the gunslinger?  What no Asians were available or maybe they could have used a woman.  It could be more of a interpretation or some shit.
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If the author doesn't have an issue with it why would I?

“I visualized [Clint] Eastwood as Roland,” King says. “I loved the Spaghetti Westerns and all those widescreen close-ups of his face, especially the ones where he’d been left out in the desert and was all covered with blisters and sunburn. I thought, ‘That’s my Roland.’”

Ol’ Clint was more of an inspiration point, however. “As the years went by, [the character] became a more particular individual in my own mind,” King says. “He wasn’t Eastwood anymore. He was just … Roland.”

The author, who raves about Elba’s recent work in the child-soldier drama Beasts of No Nation, says he hopes fans of the books have no problem accepting a man of color as Roland. “For me the character is still the character. It’s almost a Sergio Leone character, like ‘the man with no name,’” King says. “He can be white or black, it makes no difference to me. I think it opens all kind of exciting possibilities for the backstory.”
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:32:22 AM EDT
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Now I'm going to have to reread a few of them picturing Idris as Roland. I always had a young Clint Eastwood in my mind. I would have never pictured Matthew McConaughey as the man in black. Two great actors, I'm betting it's going to be awesome.

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A big one with sandal wood grips.

Seriously, a large frame, single action in something like 45LC.  I think caliber was touched on in "The Drawing of The Three" but its been a while.  Something 44, I think.  I picture very old guns with lots of holster wear and rounded, well polished surfaces.  Well cared for but lots of mileage.  Grips worn smooth as a baby's ass from handling except for the inevitable dings and scratches. and stained very dark from sweat, blood, and oil. A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:32:26 AM EDT
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Diversity will be jammed down your throat whether you like it or not.



Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:34:43 AM EDT
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Lame.
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A big one with sandal wood grips.

Seriously, a large frame, single action in something like 45LC.  I think caliber was touched on in "The Drawing of The Three" but its been a while.  Something 44, I think.  I picture very old guns with lots of holster wear and rounded, well polished surfaces.  Well cared for but lots of mileage.  Grips worn smooth as a baby's ass from handling except for the inevitable dings and scratches. and stained very dark from sweat, blood, and oil. A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
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Now I'm going to have to reread a few of them picturing Idris as Roland. I always had a young Clint Eastwood in my mind. I would have never pictured Matthew McConaughey as the man in black. Two great actors, I'm betting it's going to be awesome.

What revolver do you picture in your mind with you think of Roland?


A big one with sandal wood grips.

Seriously, a large frame, single action in something like 45LC.  I think caliber was touched on in "The Drawing of The Three" but its been a while.  Something 44, I think.  I picture very old guns with lots of holster wear and rounded, well polished surfaces.  Well cared for but lots of mileage.  Grips worn smooth as a baby's ass from handling except for the inevitable dings and scratches. and stained very dark from sweat, blood, and oil. A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age.


i remember Roland flipping through a book picking out the ammo he wanted by sight, but I don't remember what it was - I'll have to look it up. For some reason a colt single action army doesn't seem big enough to me. I'm sure it had a loading gate though.

You paint a very close picture to what I have in my head.
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If the author doesn't have an issue with it why would I?

“I visualized [Clint] Eastwood as Roland,” King says. “I loved the Spaghetti Westerns and all those widescreen close-ups of his face, especially the ones where he’d been left out in the desert and was all covered with blisters and sunburn. I thought, ‘That’s my Roland.’”

Ol’ Clint was more of an inspiration point, however. “As the years went by, [the character] became a more particular individual in my own mind,” King says. “He wasn’t Eastwood anymore. He was just … Roland.”

The author, who raves about Elba’s recent work in the child-soldier drama Beasts of No Nation, says he hopes fans of the books have no problem accepting a man of color as Roland. “For me the character is still the character. It’s almost a Sergio Leone character, like ‘the man with no name,’” King says. “He can be white or black, it makes no difference to me. I think it opens all kind of exciting possibilities for the backstory.”
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If the author doesn't have an issue with it why would I?

“I visualized [Clint] Eastwood as Roland,” King says. “I loved the Spaghetti Westerns and all those widescreen close-ups of his face, especially the ones where he’d been left out in the desert and was all covered with blisters and sunburn. I thought, ‘That’s my Roland.’”

Ol’ Clint was more of an inspiration point, however. “As the years went by, [the character] became a more particular individual in my own mind,” King says. “He wasn’t Eastwood anymore. He was just … Roland.”

The author, who raves about Elba’s recent work in the child-soldier drama Beasts of No Nation, says he hopes fans of the books have no problem accepting a man of color as Roland. “For me the character is still the character. It’s almost a Sergio Leone character, like ‘the man with no name,’” King says. “He can be white or black, it makes no difference to me. I think it opens all kind of exciting possibilities for the backstory.”


I don't care what KIng says now.  He'll say whatever he thinks liberals want to hear.  Roland is if anything a white hispanic from the kingdom of Gilead, which is sort of like an King Arthur's kingdom, but with gunslingers, in the future.   His first love is a Susan Delgado.  Maybe Susan will be played by fucking Niki Minaj?
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Not until they can force me to buy a ticket and sit through a showing.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:39:22 AM EDT
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What I pictured....maybe older.

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Not until they can force me to buy a ticket and sit through a showing.
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Not until they can force me to buy a ticket and sit through a showing.


They will put it on PBS.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:41:07 AM EDT
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There are only two actors I know of that would play a good Roland.  Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro.
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I'm thinking they had a loading gate. The wiki says 45 long colt.


Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:43:16 AM EDT
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I hadn't thought about Josh Brolin - at 5'10"  he seems too short to me though.

One thing that gets me is King always wrote about roland's blue eyes faded by the desert.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:45:33 AM EDT
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That's fucked in the head.
Fucking culture warriors ruin everything.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:47:12 AM EDT
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They really didn't do it for me either.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:49:00 AM EDT
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He can pull it off. He is one of my favorite actors...the only detail they need to change is white to black...
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:51:12 AM EDT
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I don't think the DT series would work well as a movie or series of movies.  It makes much more sense as a graphic novel or Telltale Games type game series.
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i remember Roland flipping through a book picking out the ammo he wanted by sight, but I don't remember what it was - I'll have to look it up. For some reason a colt single action army doesn't seem big enough to me. I'm sure it had a loading gate though.

You paint a very close picture to what I have in my head.
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Now I'm going to have to reread a few of them picturing Idris as Roland. I always had a young Clint Eastwood in my mind. I would have never pictured Matthew McConaughey as the man in black. Two great actors, I'm betting it's going to be awesome.

What revolver do you picture in your mind with you think of Roland?


A big one with sandal wood grips.

Seriously, a large frame, single action in something like 45LC.  I think caliber was touched on in "The Drawing of The Three" but its been a while.  Something 44, I think.  I picture very old guns with lots of holster wear and rounded, well polished surfaces.  Well cared for but lots of mileage.  Grips worn smooth as a baby's ass from handling except for the inevitable dings and scratches. and stained very dark from sweat, blood, and oil. A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age.


i remember Roland flipping through a book picking out the ammo he wanted by sight, but I don't remember what it was - I'll have to look it up. For some reason a colt single action army doesn't seem big enough to me. I'm sure it had a loading gate though.

You paint a very close picture to what I have in my head.

In the very first gun fight where he slaughters the town that was a trap and in other places it tallks about cylinders and at the gun shop it was 45 long Colt. So a cylinder gun that is single action and in 45lc...
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:52:02 AM EDT
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I'm all for diversity, and Elba can fit the personality profile of Roland, but this is just bad casting.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:52:02 AM EDT
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Are you fucking kidding me?

I stopped reading King's books after he turned into a Progressive kook! This just cements that....
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:52:04 AM EDT
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:52:47 AM EDT
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Billy Bob Thornton would be a good Roland.
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Brolin would be good. Del Toro sometimes is amazing, but sometimes I want to punch him in the throat, dunno why.



How about Sullivan Stapleton or Timothy Oliphant?





 
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They really didn't do it for me either.
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They really didn't do it for me either.


The Gunslinger was truly a good book. I get the feeling that King was actually distancing himself from it in the sequels, perhaps because he didn't want to have the rest of his schlock held up to that standard. For instance, the kid should've stayed dead and he shouldn't have put his self-insert junkie character into it. It should've been a series about fucking Roland, and his all-consuming obsession with the quest he was on, just like the poem that is his namesake.
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If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:56:56 AM EDT
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I don't like movies that stray from the books they were based on. The dark tower series were bad books. It sounds like this movie isn't going to interest me no matter what.
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.
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then write the story as a black character.  Don't write it as a white character then when its convenient to be PC, change your mind.









Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:57:26 AM EDT
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Because it changed the story, there are sub plots in the book about one character who hates white people, and she instantly hates Roland because he is WHITE! I fear this is going to be like the majority of film adaptations of King's books and SUCK.

Too often now characters races are changed from classic stories just for the sake of diversity.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:58:23 AM EDT
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I'm sick of Stephen Kings bullshit.  Will not watch.  His early works were classic horror stories, now he just phones it in and talks about politics.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 11:59:22 AM EDT
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Awesome British actor, I'm okay with this.

For some reason, there is a seething hatred for him around here.

Anson Mount would've been a better choice though.
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If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.


If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.


You do know they can change things for movies. They dont just read the book as a script. I imagine they will change many things, just like every other "based on a novel by xxxx" movie ever made.

Wheres the outrage over a bunch of British guys being cast as Spartans in 300? Or the constant casting of white guys playing Egyptians and arabs in movies? Jake fucking Gylenhaal playing an Arab. No outrage around here when all that shit happened.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 12:00:36 PM EDT
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Has the Oscar talk started yet? I'm sure he'll be best actor nominee.
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Awesome British actor, I'm okay with this.



For some reason, there is a seething hatred for him around here.



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yes to the red.




Its not a hatred of him as an actor. I like him a lot. Its rewriting stories to be PC.  Tell the story as it originated.  
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You do know they can change things for movies. They dont just read the book as a script. I imagine they will change many things, just like every other "based on a novel by xxxx" movie ever made.
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.


If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.


You do know they can change things for movies. They dont just read the book as a script. I imagine they will change many things, just like every other "based on a novel by xxxx" movie ever made.


Yes I know they can change things for the movie.  Hopefully Susanna is played by Weird Al.  He'd play a really good Susanna.
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It's one of the classic GD cliche butthurt topics, second maybe only to ranting about chain restaurants.
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Because it changed the story, there are sub plots in the book about one character who hates white people, and she instantly hates Roland because he is WHITE! I fear this is going to be like the majority of film adaptations of King's books and SUCK.

Too often now characters races are changed from classic stories just for the sake of diversity.
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.



Because it changed the story, there are sub plots in the book about one character who hates white people, and she instantly hates Roland because he is WHITE! I fear this is going to be like the majority of film adaptations of King's books and SUCK.

Too often now characters races are changed from classic stories just for the sake of diversity.

They can just change it so that she hates men....man so many on here are single dimensional.
Link Posted: 3/1/2016 12:02:07 PM EDT
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Idris Elba is a badass.  I actually think he would make a kickass James Bond, but I imagine the butthurt over that would be faaaar too epic.
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.


If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.


You do know they can change things for movies. They dont just read the book as a script. I imagine they will change many things, just like every other "based on a novel by xxxx" movie ever made.



Then why bother? Oh, that's right, because there is a ready made market to spend their money. I happen to think the Elba is fine actor, but, would you want him to play Bond?

Why not make Roland a woman?
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The one good thing about the Dark Tower series was the first sentence in the first book. Which also happens to be the last sentence of the last book.

The series goes absolutely nowhere - it's just an attempt to convince us that New York really is the center of the universe, with a little Black Lives Matter thrown in for good measure..
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Because it changed the story, there are sub plots in the book about one character who hates white people, and she instantly hates Roland because he is WHITE! I fear this is going to be like the majority of film adaptations of King's books and SUCK.
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Because it changed the story, there are sub plots in the book about one character who hates white people, and she instantly hates Roland because he is WHITE! I fear this is going to be like the majority of film adaptations of King's books and SUCK.


I agree completely.

I've been writing a novel about Frederick Douglas that was just purchased by a Universal Pictures affiliate and has been green lighted for production on the big screen in 2017.

My favorite actor is Brendon Gleeson. He will make a perfect Frederick Douglas, IMO.
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There was so much promise.
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Then why bother? Oh, that's right, because there is a ready made market to spend their money. I happen to think the Elba is fine actor, but, would you want him to play Bond?



Why not make Roland a woman?
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Whats wrong with Idris Elba, dude is a badass actor? Are you limpdicks really that butthurt that a black guy is cast in a movie based on a book where the character was white? It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, it literally doesn't matter what color the dudes skin is. The guy that wrote the fucking story had a hand in the casting for fucks sake.




If they do a movie that includes the Kingdom of Gilead, will Roland be the only black kid there for some reason or will Gilead somehow be an African nation?  It makes no sense dude.




You do know they can change things for movies. They dont just read the book as a script. I imagine they will change many things, just like every other "based on a novel by xxxx" movie ever made.






Then why bother? Oh, that's right, because there is a ready made market to spend their money. I happen to think the Elba is fine actor, but, would you want him to play Bond?



Why not make Roland a woman?




 
Actually theres quite a bit of talk about that one.
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Kind of like a black James Bond, it does not fit nor make any sense, but in the name of all important diversity, do it.  . Given that diversity has been such a boon for the developed world.
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The first book sucks.  the 3rd and 4th are good, the 5th is OK.
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