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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Starship/BFR will be the largest, most powerful rocket ever built View Quote |
... this isn’t a democracy, it’s a cheerocracy.
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Awesome.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Unlikel SLS, I believe STARSHIP/BFR will actually fly ... and I cannot wait to see it! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Apparently during development of the Raptor rocket engine SpaceX discovered a new super-strong cryoformed Stainless steel type alloy that allowed them to skip building it out of composites and accelerate development. View Quote |
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"Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation." - USSC Justice Antonin Scalia
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I suppose it is possible to convey more ignorance with less words, but I doubt I will ever see it in my lifetime.--Bohr Adam
If LAV promotes using the slide lock/release to chamber a round after a mag change, then he should be ignored.-MP0117 |
Originally Posted By Walkure: Pretty sure you mean inconel - they had announced development of a new superalloy in the inconel family earlier this year, IIRC. (Inconel alloys aren't anything like stainless steel, BTW. They aren't even steel - they are Ni-Cr based.) View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1076595190658265088?s=20 View Quote As I said, they did announce development of a new inconel superalloy, but I hadn't heard about any new revolutionary stainless formulation. |
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"Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation." - USSC Justice Antonin Scalia
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They're building a test article for the upper stage similar to the grasshopper they built to test booster landing equipment for the Falcon rocket Video of Grasshopper |
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I know we love to shit on musk, but damn if SpaceX hasn't been a fucking miracle.
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Originally Posted By Walkure: That comment doesn't sound like anything actually new, as in completely novel - just different from the construction of the old Atlas. As I said, they did announce development of a new inconel superalloy, but I hadn't heard about any new revolutionary stainless formulation. View Quote https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a397053.pdf They did make an SX500 inconel alloy for Raptor, so now America will finally have liquid fueled rocket engines that can beat the Russians. (current record holder for chamber pressure is the RD-170/180/190 series engines at 260 bar, Raptor will go to 300+ bar.) |
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Originally Posted By Walkure:
Pretty sure you mean inconel - they had announced development of a new superalloy in the inconel family earlier this year, IIRC. (Inconel alloys aren't anything like stainless steel, BTW. They aren't even steel - they are Ni-Cr based.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Walkure:
Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Apparently during development of the Raptor rocket engine SpaceX discovered a new super-strong cryoformed Stainless steel type alloy that allowed them to skip building it out of composites and accelerate development. |
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If you like that check out The sea dragon .
Super heavy rocket designed for heavy lift economy. It was designed to be launched partially submerged vertical. The saturn V second stage would fit in the nozzle. |
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There are hundreds of reasons to own a gun but it’s mostly the reasons I can't think of that make me glad to have them.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Unlikel SLS, I believe STARSHIP/BFR will actually fly ... and I cannot wait to View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
If you like that check out The sea dragon . Super heavy rocket designed for heavy lift economy. It was designed to be launched partially submerged vertical. The saturn V second stage would fit in the nozzle. View Quote With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million. |
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I can't wait until we have factories in space.
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Hogg delenda est
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Sea Dragon is cool, but BFR/Starship will easily beat it on economics because it is fully re-usable. Fuel is cheap, aerospace equipment is expensive (EDIT: fucking ARFcom keeps auto deleting what I try to write here) With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million. View Quote |
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Inconel is very tough to machine. Especially when TIG welded and you're cleaning up the weld with interrupted cut on a lathe
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Cryoformed 3xx stainless steel alloys as strong as titanium alloys: https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a397053.pdf View Quote |
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I make springs out of Stinkonel for the Aerospace industry,
PITA. |
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Rockdale? McGregor?
Looks like Pantex near Amarillo. |
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"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill
In loving memory of Eric the Hun. We miss you. B-Battery, FTAG '77 NRA member |
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Rearden Metal...
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Veni, Vidi, Vici.... TOGA!!!
[ Edited By PHONEGUNNER on 16/42/3124 26:75:68 FM ] "If guns kill people... I can blame misspelled words on my pencil" - Larry the Cable Guy |
They should also have production versions of their Raptor engine on the test stand soon
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Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country.
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Neat
but the photo looks like someone building a corn silo |
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Pay attention to me boy! I'm not just talkin' to hear my head roar
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: BFR/Starship flying before SLS would the ultimate slap in the face to oldspace considering SpaceX was just an overgrown hobby rocket company when Ares/SLS started development. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Yobro512: If true then that’s world changing. View Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA The SpaceX BFR/Starship was designed from the outset to be a system to deliver stuff to space for the lowest possible cost. It's look has changed a bit since the video above but the concept still works the same. -Fully re-usable -Also uses cheapest fuel source (Methane i.e. NG) that can also be sourced from other planets/moons -Can re-fuel itself in orbit to go beyond LEO -Booster lands right back on launch pad to allow for quick operations |
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Originally Posted By j0eschm0:
I know we love to shit on musk, but damn if SpaceX hasn't been a fucking miracle. View Quote |
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Norcal call sign: Laceration
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You should be here when they test.
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its crazy this was fantasy 4 years ago, now they are up to 66 launch and like 30 recovery's, one of which has now landed 3 times.
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Transparent aluminum?
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Courtesy of DPeacher: NRA = Negotiate Rights Away
Call sign: Rhino Don't let anyone tell you labradoodles don't shed. Ask me how I know. |
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Transparent aluminum? View Quote https://hackaday.com/2018/04/03/whats-the-deal-with-transparent-aluminum/ |
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise:
its crazy this was fantasy 4 years ago, now they are up to 66 launch and like 30 recovery's, one of which has now landed 3 times. View Quote I'll never forget when I saw them land the first rocket it was almost unbelievable. Now it's just standard operating procedure. |
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NRA Life Member
Second Amendment Foundation Member FBHO Member |
Seems fitting it's being built in Texas.
I love reading about this stuff. |
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CC 2.0
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Musk is a bit nutty and a huckster at times but if I found myself with his net worth I would do some of what he is doing.
At least he isn't sitting around pontificating about global warming and wealth inequality like Bill Gates. "We are gonna build spaceships" is a whole lot better IMO. |
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"There is a time for peace and talk and reason; and then, at long last, and only with sadness of heart and mournful admission that all your wisdom and words have failed, you must go kill you some motherfuckers and set some of their shit on fire"
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Originally Posted By M855Bukkake:
If BFR works out, why bother? Cheaper to build it here and launch it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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If you want to piss off a conservative, tell him a lie. If you want to piss off a liberal, tell him the truth.
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Originally Posted By rabidus:
Forging steel in space would be 100x stronger. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rabidus:
Originally Posted By M855Bukkake:
Originally Posted By raven:
I can't wait until we have factories in space. Any links or cites? I’ve always been curious about any possible differences, but I haven’t seen anything substantive. |
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NRA/GOA/SAF/WVSRPA/VFW Lifer
WVCDL member and Dyna Soar Turret Gunner |
Originally Posted By Variable556:
Any links or cites? I’ve always been curious about any possible differences, but I haven’t seen anything substantive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Variable556:
Originally Posted By rabidus:
Originally Posted By M855Bukkake:
Originally Posted By raven:
I can't wait until we have factories in space. Any links or cites? I’ve always been curious about any possible differences, but I haven’t seen anything substantive. |
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Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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It really just cracks me up how retardedly huge that thing is, how quickly it's coming together and the attitudes of the people who are building it
This country has its problems but dammit I wouldn't trade it for anything. |
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I mean, what the fuck is NASA actually DOING these days? And why would anyone who is qualified to do this stuff ever want to work for NASA ever again?
Does anyone realistically think that NASA will ever fly any manned missions ever again? Space X will be building weekend condos on Mars while NASA is still driving remote controlled cars around and looking at pebbles. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvKmsU1V4AE9Xqr.jpg View Quote |
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Hurrah! for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Unlikel SLS, I believe STARSHIP/BFR will actually fly ... and I cannot wait to see it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Capitalism: God's way of determining who is smart, and who is poor.
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GLOCK Armorer USPSA & GSSF competitor
“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a Glock 10mm at your side, kid.” |
Originally Posted By Grendel-OK:
I mean, what the fuck is NASA actually DOING these days? And why would anyone who is qualified to do this stuff ever want to work for NASA ever again? Does anyone realistically think that NASA will ever fly any manned missions ever again? Space X will be building weekend condos on Mars while NASA is still driving remote controlled cars around and looking at pebbles. View Quote |
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GLOCK Armorer USPSA & GSSF competitor
“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a Glock 10mm at your side, kid.” |
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