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Posted: 11/14/2019 1:48:28 PM EDT
Everyone running around trumpeting and laughing that Hollywood is failing at marketing social justice movies.

they come out with these bombs, and GD is like "Those movies fail at the box office - only a matter of time until Hollywood learns to make movies that mainstream America likes

Ghostbusters, The Last Jedi, Terminator Dark Fate, The upcoming Jams Bond A Time to Die, etc.

I think they are just selectively assassinating strong male franchises that they don't like.
Many applaud these failures, but think about what will fill the void of these franchises leave?
I think it is all going as planned.  A Time to Die indeed!
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:49:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:49:32 PM EDT
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No. Eventually people will remember they like money and will make movies people want to see.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:50:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:50:34 PM EDT
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In the end it comes to making money and they will wise up eventually.  If they don't, they die... and someone else will come along and fill the void.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:50:46 PM EDT
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I want Hollywood to fail. They are the enemy in addition to the media.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:54:11 PM EDT
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When those movies bomb they have a built-in scapegoat.

Us.

If we weren't so toxic the box office numbers would be better - not that the movie itself was a turd.

They can lose money and still validate their worldview.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:54:20 PM EDT
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Everyone running around trumpeting and laughing that Hollywood is failing at marketing social justice movies.

they come out with these bombs, and GD is like "Those movies fail at the box office - only a matter of time until Hollywood learns to make movies that mainstream America likes

Ghostbusters, The Last Jedi, Terminator Dark Fate, The upcoming Jams Bond A Time to Die, etc.

I think they are just selectively assassinating strong male franchises that they don't like.
Many applaud these failures, but think about what will fill the void of these franchises leave?
I think it is all going as planned.  A Time to Die indeed!
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Movie Franchises all begin to suck. Hollywood needs new ideas, not more and more sequels.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:54:47 PM EDT
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I want Hollywood to fail. They are the enemy in addition to the media.
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Yeah, good riddance. Too overpaid. They need to learn just like pro sports and all the woke consumer products companies are.

Stop giving them money. Buy ammo.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:55:56 PM EDT
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star wars 7 hit $2+ billion at the box office with a budget of $300 million

star wars 8 hit $1.3+ billion with a budget of $200-317 million
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:57:34 PM EDT
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It’s hard to believe, given all the money out there waiting to be collected, that a right leaning Patriot type filmmaker isn’t putting out movies that appeal to non SJW types.

I suppose Clint Eastwood is but otherwise I cant think of any.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:58:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 1:59:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:02:04 PM EDT
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It’s hard to believe, given all the money out there waiting to be collected, that a right leaning Patriot type filmmaker isn’t putting out movies that appeal to non SJW types.

I suppose Clint Eastwood is but otherwise I cant think of any.
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I don't think there are many right leaning filmmakers currently. Or actors/crew willing to work on that project if they don't have to. There is occasionally one released like that recent anti-abortion film. The money is still in making girl-power superhero movies with white man bad.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:16:45 PM EDT
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It fails because it’s blatantly contrived, like all attempts at social engineering.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:23:06 PM EDT
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I think they are just selectively assassinating strong male franchises that they don't like.

Many applaud these failures, but think about what will fill the void of these franchises leave?
I think it is all going as planned.  A Time to Die indeed!
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i doubt they are doing it on purpose to destroy males. i think its more just their stupidity and trying for force the SJW-pussy hat wearing crowd down everyones throat.

i will continue my applause for their failure. by saying otherwise makes you look like you support them.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:27:04 PM EDT
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I like movies with good character development, good dialogue and a good story.  That formula's always worked.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:27:56 PM EDT
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I love it when they flop from eating their own.  
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:29:57 PM EDT
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It’s hard to believe, given all the money out there waiting to be collected, that a right leaning Patriot type filmmaker isn’t putting out movies that appeal to non SJW types.

I suppose Clint Eastwood is but otherwise I cant think of any.
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How many right-wing directors are there?

How many right-wing actors?

How many right-wing producers?

How many right-wing "all those hundreds of people at the end of the credits"?

The only real "right-wing" stuff I know of is the Kendrick brothers who spend their time making Christian movies instead of more mainstream "right-leaning" commercial films
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 2:31:26 PM EDT
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To quote Kelly Bundy when asked if it was ok for beautiful people to flaunt their hotness... "not only is it ok, it's an obligation!"
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:49:00 PM EDT
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CLAP
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:50:36 PM EDT
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The Joker defied the cry’s of the SJW and made a billion dollars.

I bet Hollywood noticed
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:51:31 PM EDT
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How many right-wing directors are there?

How many right-wing actors?

How many right-wing producers?

How many right-wing "all those hundreds of people at the end of the credits"?

The only real "right-wing" stuff I know of is the Kendrick brothers who spend their time making Christian movies instead of more mainstream "right-leaning" commercial films
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It’s hard to believe, given all the money out there waiting to be collected, that a right leaning Patriot type filmmaker isn’t putting out movies that appeal to non SJW types.

I suppose Clint Eastwood is but otherwise I cant think of any.
How many right-wing directors are there?

How many right-wing actors?

How many right-wing producers?

How many right-wing "all those hundreds of people at the end of the credits"?

The only real "right-wing" stuff I know of is the Kendrick brothers who spend their time making Christian movies instead of more mainstream "right-leaning" commercial films
The premise of a majority of big Hollywood movies is right-wing when you think about.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:52:38 PM EDT
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When those movies bomb they have a built-in scapegoat.

Us.

If we weren't so toxic the box office numbers would be better - not that the movie itself was a turd.

They can lose money and still validate their worldview.
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Hollywood has the same problem socialism does.

Eventually, you run out of other people's money.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:53:04 PM EDT
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I do a little happy dance every time one of those shit shows bombs.

Restores a little bit of my almost nonexistent faith in the human race.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 6:54:04 PM EDT
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It is appropriate to applaud Hollywood's failures. It is appropriate to point at them and laugh. It is appropriate to ridicule their idiocy.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:01:59 PM EDT
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Of course it's not wrong. Hollywood is the enemy.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:03:45 PM EDT
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Everyone running around trumpeting and laughing that Hollywood is failing at marketing social justice movies.

they come out with these bombs, and GD is like "Those movies fail at the box office - only a matter of time until Hollywood learns to make movies that mainstream America likes

Ghostbusters, The Last Jedi, Terminator Dark Fate, The upcoming Jams Bond A Time to Die, etc.

I think they are just selectively assassinating strong male franchises that they don't like.
Many applaud these failures, but think about what will fill the void of these franchises leave?
I think it is all going as planned.  A Time to Die indeed!
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The market dictates success. If they make a void another entrepreneur will be along to fill it and make cash hand over fist.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:06:10 PM EDT
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Nature abhors a vacuum. They will unfuck themselves or new better people will emerge.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:07:43 PM EDT
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In the end it comes to making money and they will wise up eventually.  If they don't, they die... and someone else will come along and fill the void.
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Yep.

Can't make anymore movies if your shit goes bankrupt.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:08:55 PM EDT
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Yep.

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You can  make whatever you want after you clear the playing field
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:10:37 PM EDT
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This guy gets it.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:12:05 PM EDT
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How did 'Captain Marvel' do?

IIRC, the chick that starred in it was a major league, douche bag, SJW, feminist cunt.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:18:30 PM EDT
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How did 'Captain Marvel' do?

IIRC, the chick that starred in it was a major league, douche bag, SJW, feminist cunt.
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Not necessarily a good example as it was a movie that tied up a major movie series.

Can't use it as a metric for what movie goers will do if they are presented with the choice on a movie that isnt a must see if for no other reason than you see the 15 preceding movies.

Even then, I redbox'd it and I sti want my $1.75 and 3 hours of my life back.  Such a shit movie.  Cannot believe I suffered 2.85 hours of bullshit for a 15 min fight scene.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:19:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:22:01 PM EDT
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they come out with these bombs, and GD is like "Those movies fail at the box office - only a matter of time until Hollywood learns to make movies that mainstream America likes

Ghostbusters, The Last Jedi, Terminator Dark Fate, The upcoming Jams Bond A Time to Die, etc.
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:22:24 PM EDT
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Watch "Hollywoodism", free on Prime. It will tell you how they made you see your ideal America since movies were made.

Your kids will be exposed to any agenda they choose to push.

We have all been victims of this for a century.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:23:16 PM EDT
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Making the movie is one thing.

Getting it distributed and played in theaters is a completely different thing. THAT is where the real challenge lies.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:23:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:27:24 PM EDT
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
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I took my nephews, they both fell asleep.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:31:17 PM EDT
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
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$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 7:57:31 PM EDT
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$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
That's why I said gross, not net revenue    And I won't argue that Disney didn't fuck up.  Only that it wasn't a "bomb".  The movie did make a profit, a fair amount ($417 million ) according to wikipedia.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:00:08 PM EDT
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They profited more than $40,000,000,000.00 dollars last year so they're right on the very cusp of failure.
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Yep.

Can't make anymore movies if your shit goes bankrupt.
They profited more than $40,000,000,000.00 dollars last year so they're right on the very cusp of failure.
Not talking Hollywood/the movie business in general. Just specifically the SJW'ing/Awokening nonsense.

If some studios choose to push their SJW/woke stuff at the cost of profits, they aren't going to last. Someone else will happily jump in to push the next over-the-top toxic masculinity Fast and the Furious franchise to make their billions.

Profit or die. They can make their own choices, just as moviegoers make theirs.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:15:00 PM EDT
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there were kids being bussed as a field trip during the school day to go see marvel black panther.  do you think they would do the same for a movie like the patriot or midway?  one is based on fiction, the other, reality.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:24:40 PM EDT
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That's why I said gross, not net revenue    And I won't argue that Disney didn't fuck up.  Only that it wasn't a "bomb".  The movie did make a profit, a fair amount ($417 million ) according to wikipedia.
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
That's why I said gross, not net revenue    And I won't argue that Disney didn't fuck up.  Only that it wasn't a "bomb".  The movie did make a profit, a fair amount ($417 million ) according to wikipedia.
I agree it wasn't a bomb.  My point was that Iger knows now that the $417m profit could have been a $1000m profit.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:27:24 PM EDT
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I agree it wasn't a bomb.  My point was that Iger knows now that the $417m profit could have been a $1000m profit.
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
That's why I said gross, not net revenue    And I won't argue that Disney didn't fuck up.  Only that it wasn't a "bomb".  The movie did make a profit, a fair amount ($417 million ) according to wikipedia.
I agree it wasn't a bomb.  My point was that Iger knows now that the $417m profit could have been a $1000m profit.
Apparently they next one sucks so bad, they're worrying about breaking even on it.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:33:22 PM EDT
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Apparently they next one sucks so bad, they're worrying about breaking even on it.
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Not saying it was a great movie, but The Last Jedi grossed 1.33 billion....hardly a bomb.
$1.33billion minus production and marketing costs of probably $500m+.

Look at the weekend-over-weekend drop in ticket sales once it opened.  It could have made $2billion in theaters.  Disney CEO Iger knows that and he is pissed.

Star Wars is the original license to print money. And KK fucked it up.
That's why I said gross, not net revenue    And I won't argue that Disney didn't fuck up.  Only that it wasn't a "bomb".  The movie did make a profit, a fair amount ($417 million ) according to wikipedia.
I agree it wasn't a bomb.  My point was that Iger knows now that the $417m profit could have been a $1000m profit.
Apparently they next one sucks so bad, they're worrying about breaking even on it.
that's just mind-blowing.  KK's head should roll for that.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:34:50 PM EDT
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Failure is a necessary part of a feedback loop.

It can only be ignored for so long.
Link Posted: 11/14/2019 8:35:03 PM EDT
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Yep... people want to go see a movie for a story, not for a message.
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