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Posted: 12/7/2021 10:35:14 PM EDT
We are discussing full size handguns only

Okay, so 380 is stupid because it's basically 9mm capacity wise

45 is fine but I mean 13 isn't 20.

Could we just make some kind of crazy 22Mag or 17HMR full sized pistol with like I don't know a triple stack magazine so basically you're like yeah it's small and rimfire but there's like 35 rounds here in a flush magazine.

Basically we are taking the idea of the American 180 as a viable MG and going to miniaturize that same idea.  Inb4 FN Five Seven. No. Just no. Not 20 rounds. I can already buy that with a 2011.

We're taking probably magazine development where the mag is as thick as a 45 mag and so is the gun frame but it just has an obscene amount of rimfire ammunition.

Inb4 rimfire isn't reliable. I don't care.

ONLY GOAL IS MAXIMUM ROUNDS IN A FULL SIZE GUN
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:36:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:37:23 PM EDT
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BIG MEN SHOOT BIG CALIBERS
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:39:55 PM EDT
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22 TCM is a necked down 9x19.


9x19 on the left, 22 TCM on the right.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:40:34 PM EDT
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I've said for a long time FN needs to make an FN Five-SeveN but make it the FN SevenTeeN. And do it in 17 HMR
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:40:59 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:41:49 PM EDT
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Five Seven...


...with 30rd mags
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These.

And the MP7 also exists, not that we can have it.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:43:20 PM EDT
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OP, how do you not know of the PMR30 or CP33? P50 if you're talking really big.

I expect better from you.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:43:53 PM EDT
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In before people don't think rim lock be like it is but it do

or however that stupid saying goes
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:44:51 PM EDT
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Calico might have what you need.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:47:58 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:48:16 PM EDT
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22 TCM is a necked down 9x19.
https://files.osgnetworks.tv/9/files/2018/03/9mm-l.-and-.22-TCM.jpg

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WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING VELOCITY
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:55:51 PM EDT
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fpni
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:57:16 PM EDT
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Fuck it's SAO I'm going to have to buy this
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:58:37 PM EDT
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I came in here ready to hate your idea.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:59:44 PM EDT
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I just hadn't really thought about it before, honestly. KelTec has some good ideas that aren't always greatly implemented.

I will probably buy this though tbh
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 10:59:55 PM EDT
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Technically this is a pistol with a 100 round drum of 22 caliber ammo.
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Check mate OP.

Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:00:29 PM EDT
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It is okay now we can buy keltecs and mag dump at stuff
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:00:54 PM EDT
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Honestly the trigger is pretty good too
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:01:16 PM EDT
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Technically this is a pistol with a 100 round drum of 22 caliber ammo.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231252/bd4bae1d-aa8c-424c-9c73-d6582f8e32dc-day-2196041.JPG
Check mate OP.

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I'm not the ATF real things mean real things in real life
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:03:33 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:03:39 PM EDT
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Like a good arfcommer I have like idk 500 rounds of Speer 22WMR for a gun I never knew I wanted that now has a home.

It was that short barrel stuff. I picked it up on sale after BLUMF killed the koi fish
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:03:44 PM EDT
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.25 ACP is an inherently accurate cartridge and is made to function in auto pistols.  I'd likely start there.  Now, make it a bit longer (.25 ACP Magnum), and you might get somewhere.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:04:07 PM EDT
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This thread was incredibly efficient
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:06:08 PM EDT
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.25 ACP is an inherently accurate cartridge and is made to function in auto pistols.  I'd likely start there.  Now, make it a bit longer (.25 ACP Magnum), and you might get somewhere.
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We have a bunch of baby Brownings in the family.

It's been awhile since I've dived into small caliber stuff in handguns but I'm pretty sure 25ACP is like the worst thing ballistically available for purchase.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:13:39 PM EDT
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Agreed
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:15:10 PM EDT
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One can dream of the day where we have a 7.62x25 double stack Glock I guess.

-P
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:20:54 PM EDT
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13 is more than enough if you can fucking shoot.

.45 MASTER RACE!!!
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:23:49 PM EDT
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Calico 9mm pisto with 100 round helical magazine.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:25:48 PM EDT
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@WhiskersTheCat

Glad I could help spend your money!


Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:26:00 PM EDT
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I love 45 bro but that's not the gun I was taking about
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@WhiskersTheCat

Glad I could help spend your money!


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@WhiskersTheCat

Glad I could help spend your money!



What you didn't know, is you would enter a special place in my heart.

Where the first post not only satisfied my requirements, but did it with a SAO.

Midyew: I'm sorry Whiskers, this has already been done. Kel-Tec makes a single action only 30 round 22WMR

Me: You had me at SAO. (Breaking down crying) YOU HAD ME AT SAO
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:31:11 PM EDT
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We need a 5.56 revolver.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:36:13 PM EDT
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We have a bunch of baby Brownings in the family.

It's been awhile since I've dived into small caliber stuff in handguns but I'm pretty sure 25ACP is like the worst thing ballistically available for purchase.
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Yes, but centerfire beats Rimfire all day long for reliability. .25 cal gives enough case diameter to be rimless and squeeze in a SPP, barely. Something like 6.35mmx23 (dimensions pulled directly from my butthole) would get pretty interesting.
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You're going to hate me every time you open your Gunbroker page and search on Taurus.  They did it & discontinued it several years back.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:38:24 PM EDT
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Proper.  
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:41:24 PM EDT
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I thought we were bros Cole.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:47:58 PM EDT
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Could we just make some kind of crazy 22Mag or 17HMR full sized pistol with like I don't know a triple stack magazine...
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There is no way a rimmed cartridge and triple stack mag won't have ridiculously bad feeding issues.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:51:11 PM EDT
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STEEL. AND. WOOD.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:52:34 PM EDT
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I just hadn't really thought about it before, honestly. KelTec has some good ideas that aren't always greatly implemented.

I will probably buy this though tbh
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Can't argue that.

I've been tempted by a KSG for years but I can't bring myself to buy a KelTec.
Link Posted: 12/7/2021 11:55:37 PM EDT
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I thought we were bros Cole.
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I thought we were bros Cole.
We are.  Hence the unnecessary hate.

Brb, gonna go try to get a corp sponsor for the 'NickGunar is Fag, so donate to St Jude's' thread.
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:03:24 AM EDT
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There is no way a rimmed cartridge and triple stack mag won't have ridiculously bad feeding issues.
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Could we just make some kind of crazy 22Mag or 17HMR full sized pistol with like I don't know a triple stack magazine...


There is no way a rimmed cartridge and triple stack mag won't have ridiculously bad feeding issues.

Sounds like you don't believe in capitalism and entrepreneurs.

Bad feeding issues? Maybe. High price? For sure.

Ridiculous? Market? For sure
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:14:03 AM EDT
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Aren't those Jam-O-Matics? Have they fixed them?
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My CMR-30 quad stack mag ran fine w/ 40 grainers.  The manual tells you not to run other than 40 grainers, but 30 grainers is why I bought it & why I sold it.
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:16:24 AM EDT
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I wish KT made a Pmr30 that was the same format as the CP33 so it could take a brace easily.


Or a CMR30 that had a short barrel and a brace.
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:20:23 AM EDT
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Don't forget to get the mag loader. It really makes life easier for both the CP33 and PMR30.
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There is a company called MCARBO that makes an upgrade kit for them. It's only money, right??
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:29:22 AM EDT
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Got to admit, I kind of want one of these.

Link Posted: 12/8/2021 12:30:15 AM EDT
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22 TCM is a necked down 9x19.
https://files.osgnetworks.tv/9/files/2018/03/9mm-l.-and-.22-TCM.jpg

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Actually it's a shortened and formed .223/5.56 case.
Link Posted: 12/8/2021 9:24:59 AM EDT
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We are discussing full size handguns only

Okay, so 380 is stupid because it's basically 9mm capacity wise

45 is fine but I mean 13 isn't 20.

Could we just make some kind of crazy 22Mag or 17HMR full sized pistol with like I don't know a triple stack magazine so basically you're like yeah it's small and rimfire but there's like 35 rounds here in a flush magazine.

Basically we are taking the idea of the American 180 as a viable MG and going to miniaturize that same idea.  Inb4 FN Five Seven. No. Just no. Not 20 rounds. I can already buy that with a 2011.

We're taking probably magazine development where the mag is as thick as a 45 mag and so is the gun frame but it just has an obscene amount of rimfire ammunition.

Inb4 rimfire isn't reliable. I don't care.

ONLY GOAL IS MAXIMUM ROUNDS IN A FULL SIZE GUN
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Triple stack?

No.

That will not feed reliably.

Get a 5-7.
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