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Posted: 3/2/2024 11:51:58 AM EDT
What’s a good 22lr handgun concealed carry?
Federal or CCI defense rounds will be used. |
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I'd get a DA revolver. If you get a dud cartridge just pull the trigger again.
Any semiautomatic that gets a dud will need to be cleared. |
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Buy a 380 or 32 if you want low recoil. 22LR ammunition isn't the most reliable or powerful.
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If I were going to press a .22LR in to concealed carry service it would be one of my Taurus TX-22's. They've proven 100% reliable, with 16 round magazines that can be bumped up to 21 rounds with Wingman +5 extensions.
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With absolutely tiny guns like the LCPII in .380 - I cant imagine why anyone would want to carry .22LR
You can carry an LCP in a wallet holster or around the neck in a kydex lanyard holster. |
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Ruger LCR or Smith 351c, .22mag. Wife has a LCR and likes it.
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LCP in .22 carries 10 rds. It’s got a trigger safety and a manual safety too. Very light.
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Lots of folks here have either not shot a lot of different. 22lr ammo, or just have been incredibly lucky with the ammo they've bought.
I've had 2 different cartons of bulk ammo from 2 different manufacturers over the years that are full of duds. As much as I love .22lr (I have more guns in .22 than any other caliber) it's not reliable enough for a self defense round. Without getting into ballistics, reliability is paramount for self defense. I'm not saying that I think .22 is a good choice from a ballistics perspective. But it simply can't be trusted to go bang every time. My last carton of ammo functioned flawlessly when new, and after 2 years of storage in an ammo can with desiccant, it has wildly variable velocity and lots of duds. I've got other .22 ammo that works great that's 15 years old. But there is nothing to indicate that .22 ammo has gone bad if it does, until you try to use it. That's just not a quality you want in a self defense ammo. |
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Beretta 21a maximum concealment in a semi auto.
ETA - with a Bowers Bitty can if you don’t want to be heard. |
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Lots of people love the Beretta 21a Bobcat, but just make sure you keep it clean, lubed, and do lotsssssss of ammo testing (this stands for any rim fire). Personally I’d do a revolver, so you wouldn’t have to clear a stoppage, probably either the Ruger LCR or S&W 43c (although lately I’ve been eyeing the old H&R 929). If we’re talking larger, I personally know people that love the TX22, and I can definitely tell you to avoid the Ruger SR22, as it is a giant pile of shit, same for the Walther P22. Personally, if you’re looking for a low recoil pocket pistol, I’d go for a Keltec P32 or a Beretta 950 Jetfire, but if you have to do the rimfire just do lots of research and testing. I know Federal makes the “Punch” ammo for defense, so it might be made to a higher standard of reliability
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I bought a S&W kit gun for my daughter. Model 317 I think. It was expensive but she can’t handle 9mm yet.
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Quoted:I've got other .22 ammo that works great that's 15 years old. But there is nothing to indicate that .22 ammo has gone bad if it does, until you try to use it. That's just not a quality you want in a self defense ammo. View Quote As opposed other ammo where there is an indication of the round going bad? ![]() |
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Two months ago, I bought a new Ruger LCP2 .22.
Since then, I have tried the following ammunition: CCI Mini Mag 40 gr, CCI Mini Mag 36gr, CCi Velocitors, Winchester Super X 40 gr, Aguila Super Extra 40 gr, Blazer 40 gr, CCI Stingers, CCI Standard Velocity 40 gr. I've fired more than 500 rounds through five different magazines. Every single brand of ammunition choked more than once . Failures to fire and failures to feed were the problems. I shall continue to shoot the gun, but I will not carry it. |
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Well known big-bore advocate Colonel Jeff Cooper recommend the Walther PPK/S in .22 LR for the recoil adverse. Not a bad choice. There are others available as well. Of everything I own, I would use my S&W M18, but that is a lot of weight for a .22. The LCR sounds like a reasonable choice. Lots of practice is a good thing.
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Beretta 21A stuffed with Eley HV HP. You'll have it in your pocket when you need it.
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OP watch the cop knife video and tell me you would feel comfortable with a 22lr in that situation.
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Ruger Single Six. Doesn't conceal worth a durn but it won't fail you.
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Beretta 87 gets my vote, however it's a little pricey and hard to find, but what a high quality firearm in 22lr. Most 22's these days aren't made very well at all.
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Quoted: I'd get a DA revolver. If you get a dud cartridge just pull the trigger again. Any semiautomatic that gets a dud will need to be cleared. View Quote Yep. Though if recoil is an issue, you can get plenty of soft shooting .38spl that would still be more reliable as a defensive weapon. Heck, .32acp would be a better choice. |
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Love all the people here questioning it. It’s not necessarily for the op. He asked for a specific caliber as a carry gun. Don’t care about the reason.
Op, my Ruger MK2 has always been reliable and loaded with Stingers it would just be limiting you to 10rd. The Sig P322 with stingers is another option with 20 in the gun and 25 in the spare mag. Mine was finicky at first but after a few hundred rounds is great. I alcohol stripped the mags to get them dry as I could then dry graphite lube them. I have carried mine with stingers before. Not an ideal gun but damn if it’s fairly small with a huge capacity. Just not the most power. My beretta 21A has always been great and no issues. However capacity is a joke. I’d suggest a 9shot j frame sized revolver as an additional option. Or step into the Magnum range. The PMR 30 or the smith J frame in 22Mag would be additional options. |
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I think probably a revolver. .22lr ain't so good.
someone sells a "self defense .22lr" round |
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Wife likes her Walther P22. I sometimes carry a Heritage Barkeep.
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Quoted: As opposed other ammo where there is an indication of the round going bad? ![]() View Quote There are fundamental differences in the way .22 is primed versus centerfire ammo. No ammo is 100% trustworthy, but .22 priming compound has silica grit in it and is distributed in the rim of the cartridge. Centerfire primers concentrate a lot of priming compound into one little cup, and it is a lot more reliable. So much so that I don't even worry about it. I've never in my life had a failure to fire with a centerfire round. Every one I've ever shot has gone bang. I'm not a big time competition shooter and don't practice a ton, so that's probably less than 10,000 centefire rounds in my lifetime. But easily 5x as many .22lr rounds. I don't shoot a lot of imported steel case though so that might have something to do with it. I've never had one failure to fire with centerfire. I trust it. With .22lr I can hand you a carton right now that looks perfect but has a would 25% duds in it. Generally, properly stored centerfire ammo is good to go, in my experience. No, you can't tell by looking, but if I look at a cartridge and it has a primer in the middle, it's a safe bet it's going to fire. Not so with rimfire. |
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Quoted: Love all the people here questioning it. It's not necessarily for the op. He asked for a specific caliber as a carry gun. Don't care about the reason. Op, my Ruger MK2 has always been reliable and loaded with Stingers it would just be limiting you to 10rd. The Sig P322 with stingers is another option with 20 in the gun and 25 in the spare mag. Mine was finicky at first but after a few hundred rounds is great. I alcohol stripped the mags to get them dry as I could then dry graphite lube them. I have carried mine with stingers before. Not an ideal gun but damn if it's fairly small with a huge capacity. Just not the most power. My beretta 21A has always been great and no issues. However capacity is a joke. I'd suggest a 9shot j frame sized revolver as an additional option. Or step into the Magnum range. The PMR 30 or the smith J frame in 22Mag would be additional options. View Quote |
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I don't know.
if you put all 10 rnds in the same spot on the bad guys chest or head, the fight would pretty much be over. But, if there is more than one bad guy... Rounds on target are generally worth more than rounds near target. I personally would not use a .22 for self defense, but I sure as shit would not want to be shot repeatedly by one. the lowly .22 has killed a lot of interesting stuff over the years. |
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Late to the party but I keep a Beretta 21A in my truck 24/7 as a bug. I've shot the piss out of it with CCI and have had 0 issues that I recall. It would be an easy gun to conceal with a number of holsters.
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I had a Beretta and liked it, kinda wish I still had it. It was slightly chunky for what it was but not awful. Remember that it doesn't have an extractor, so sometimes jams can suck. Also, mine was bought used and was very unreliable... turned out that the action toggles needed to be thoroughly cleaned. I'd imagine this would be a factor with pocket lint. After it was cleaned up, it ran everything reliably except for Federal Champion for some reason.
Thanks for the comment above about the LCP .22, I was kinda thinking about getting one for fun but not if it's that unreliable. I'm also looking at a Bersa .22, but not for carry, seems like it'd be fun. Other than that, there's also the LCR .22 and the Taurus 942 if the J-frame is too spendy for you. |
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Quoted: Because that full size duty pistol worked so well for the cop? View Quote |
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Ruger LCR. Good revolver.
.22 lr in one wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd sure carry it before going without. Ruger revolvers are getting rather pricey for what you get though, at least IMO. |
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