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Posted: 4/15/2023 4:55:41 PM EDT
There is likely already a forum or youtube channel that has the answer, I just don't know about it.

I want to know if anybody takes folders and chops, pries, and batons on them to see what can take the abuse and what can't. I'm pretty rough on my knives, I often use them for choppers and that is rough on the mechanisms. I sometimes carry a fixed blade but not typically.
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 8:22:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ROCK6] [#1]
Originally Posted By stone-age:
There is likely already a forum or youtube channel that has the answer, I just don't know about it.

I want to know if anybody takes folders and chops, pries, and batons on them to see what can take the abuse and what can't. I'm pretty rough on my knives, I often use them for choppers and that is rough on the mechanisms. I sometimes carry a fixed blade but not typically.
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@stone-age
I let the Youtubers do it to their own blades, but they do give you a good idea of the amount of abuse some folders can handle. As we all know, lateral stress is the weak link, but some locking mechanisms are far more robust than others.




There are a few that take a secondary pin to really make them stout...


However, the best off-the-shelf, seriously tough folder is Cold Steel's 4-Max with the stout Tri-Ad lock. Mines is the second generation and CPM 20CV and it's a pretty thick blade (0.18" thick compared to the pretty well-know Benchmade Adamas at 0.14")

I know knives, especially folders, aren't pry bars, picks, or choppers, but quite honestly, when you need an immediate solution to an extreme problem where time, distance, or circumstance doesn't allow you go grab the "right tool", you may very well need to use that folder in your pocket. Nothing rarely goes according to plan and that folder in your pocket may need to solve a problem it's not quite designed to solve. I have mostly been able to avoid that situation with my folders, but I've abused a few fixed blades well beyond their cutting purpose.

Even the original Al Mar SERE "Attack" folder was designed for such purposes of a compact tool (for crewman needling less on their person to get snagged or in the way) to serve almost as a fixed blade for SERE, from cutting themselves out of the thin aircraft skin to all the "survival" cutting tasks necessary for survival and evasion.

These are all my "big" folders with a Glock 26 and Mad Dog Pygmy ATAK fixed blade with a 5.5" blade.


ROCK6
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 9:32:01 PM EDT
[#2]
I carried blades on duty for a long time both as tools and weapons. I’m kinda of a gear junkie and really like quality gear. I would never use a quality knife as a prying or chopping tool short of actual survival necessity-and that’s happened a few times. I typically prefer fixed blade knives for “combat” but I’ve been very favorably impressed by the strength of several Benchmade axis lock folders I’ve owned. In addition to what is possibly one of strongest locking mechanisms there is for a folder, they’re VERY fast to get into action. In fact, I sold all my MicroTech automatics and bought a handful of Benchmade 722s (it’s my favorite model, but unfortunately now long out of production). I also like the 940 Osborne, but it’s not as robust as the 722. I have an AFCK, but it’s a bit too large for my taste.

I think a Benchmade axis lock is worth a look for anyone interested in a hard use folder.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 10:33:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tsg68] [#3]
I carried a Strider GB for years and that knife was extremely tough.  I used it to cut through 1/4” thick fiberglass reinforced plastic before…chop notches in 2x4’s and clean up mortises.  Guys on my crew loved to borrow it, lol.  It took all abuse.

The guys from Strider used to hack apart a folding chair at knife shows to prove how tough the blades were.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 10:38:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: grayman89] [#4]
I have a job where it's extremely tough on the knives I carry. I've broken more Benchmades than I can count at this point.

It's no high end custom by any means but my all time favorite is the Cold Steel AD15 followed by the AD10. Their blade shapes make them decent at field dressing a deer too if you ever find yourself without your hunting fixed blade.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 10:45:13 AM EDT
[#5]
I can tell you that SOG isn't the answer, every SOG I have ever owned has broken on me.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 10:51:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Gun cutting Benchmade
You bust a blade.
Pay a small fee and get a new blade installed

Followed by ZT
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 11:46:55 AM EDT
[#7]
I’ve never had a single issue out of the 3 or 4 ZTs I’ve had. There’s an 0562CF clipped in my pocket that I’ve carried everyday for the last 3 years. When I decide I want or need another knife, it’ll be a ZT.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 12:53:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

@stone-age
I let the Youtubers do it to their own blades, but they do give you a good idea of the amount of abuse some folders can handle. As we all know, lateral stress is the weak link, but some locking mechanisms are far more robust than others.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

There are a few that take a secondary pin to really make them stout...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

However, the best off-the-shelf, seriously tough folder is Cold Steel's 4-Max with the stout Tri-Ad lock. Mines is the second generation and CPM 20CV and it's a pretty thick blade (0.18" thick compared to the pretty well-know Benchmade Adamas at 0.14")

I know knives, especially folders, aren't pry bars, picks, or choppers, but quite honestly, when you need an immediate solution to an extreme problem where time, distance, or circumstance doesn't allow you go grab the "right tool", you may very well need to use that folder in your pocket. Nothing rarely goes according to plan and that folder in your pocket may need to solve a problem it's not quite designed to solve. I have mostly been able to avoid that situation with my folders, but I've abused a few fixed blades well beyond their cutting purpose.

Even the original Al Mar SERE "Attack" folder was designed for such purposes of a compact tool (for crewman needling less on their person to get snagged or in the way) to serve almost as a fixed blade for SERE, from cutting themselves out of the thin aircraft skin to all the "survival" cutting tasks necessary for survival and evasion.

These are all my "big" folders with a Glock 26 and Mad Dog Pygmy ATAK fixed blade with a 5.5" blade.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

ROCK6
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I'd been considering the 4max. I have large and small griptillians I carry but I'm always a little concerned I'm going to break something on them. So I'm kind of gentle with them.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 5:08:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Slingblade2006] [#9]
I don’t think anything has beat a cold steel folder with a tri-ad lock yet as far as toughness.  I have three.  Generally they don’t open as smoothly as others but they will not fail once open either.
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 5:20:27 PM EDT
[#10]
The Cold Steel destruction videos are always fun to watch.

I will be honest even after owning some $1k knives I daily carry the CRKT M16 series.  Their larger blade varients with either the LAWS locking liner lock or the newer frame lock version.
Link Posted: 4/17/2023 3:19:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

@stone-age
I let the Youtubers do it to their own blades, but they do give you a good idea of the amount of abuse some folders can handle. As we all know, lateral stress is the weak link, but some locking mechanisms are far more robust than others.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

There are a few that take a secondary pin to really make them stout...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

However, the best off-the-shelf, seriously tough folder is Cold Steel's 4-Max with the stout Tri-Ad lock. Mines is the second generation and CPM 20CV and it's a pretty thick blade (0.18" thick compared to the pretty well-know Benchmade Adamas at 0.14")

I know knives, especially folders, aren't pry bars, picks, or choppers, but quite honestly, when you need an immediate solution to an extreme problem where time, distance, or circumstance doesn't allow you go grab the "right tool", you may very well need to use that folder in your pocket. Nothing rarely goes according to plan and that folder in your pocket may need to solve a problem it's not quite designed to solve. I have mostly been able to avoid that situation with my folders, but I've abused a few fixed blades well beyond their cutting purpose.

Even the original Al Mar SERE "Attack" folder was designed for such purposes of a compact tool (for crewman needling less on their person to get snagged or in the way) to serve almost as a fixed blade for SERE, from cutting themselves out of the thin aircraft skin to all the "survival" cutting tasks necessary for survival and evasion.

These are all my "big" folders with a Glock 26 and Mad Dog Pygmy ATAK fixed blade with a 5.5" blade.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

ROCK6
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Which knives are shown in the photos of the locking mechanisms?
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 4:15:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:
Which knives are shown in the photos of the locking mechanisms?
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@stone-age
The XIO (yes, Chinese) made Alpha Mark 1 was a small batch made by a knife enthusiast in China with access to some machinery from a more common knife company. It's a beast of a knife and not sure if they're still being made or not:

XIO Alpha Mark 1

The other two are still in production, but as with all Extremaratio knives, they're expensive. The RAO and the RAO II

ROCK6
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 5:17:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/19/2023 6:53:13 AM EDT
[#14]
I was,  now retired mechanic for over 42 years and have worn-out a few knives.
I always used case folders for everything, worn-out lost but never broken.
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 6:58:20 AM EDT
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Emerson has never let me down. I’ve put those knives through Hell.

And they have the reputation to back it up.  

ROCK 6 IS the Arfcomm knife expert .
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 10:29:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: parrisisland1978] [#16]
I've carried Cold Steel folders and abused them daily for decades.
If they were strong enough to pass these tests (especially when they use them like monkey bars @6:28!)
They're strong enough for me.
And they are.
Cold Steel Voyager Series (1 of 2)
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 10:56:24 AM EDT
[#17]
I always carry a tactical knife. And while I have many, including Benchmades, my go to "tool" tactical knife will inevitably be an Emerson. Ernest Emerson knows how to make one fine folding knife.
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 1:27:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BIG-DUKE-6:
Emerson has never let me down. I’ve put those knives through Hell.

And they have the reputation to back it up.  

ROCK 6 IS the Arfcomm knife expert .
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Hahaha, not quite an "expert", just a user who likes knives

Oh, and I like Emerson Knives as well (including their "wave" feature). They've been on my short list for folders I have (and wouldn't hesitate) taking into combat:



ROCK6
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 1:36:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

Hahaha, not quite an "expert", just a user who likes knives

Oh, and I like Emerson Knives as well (including their "wave" feature). They've been on my short list for folders I have (and wouldn't hesitate) taking into combat:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

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Very, very nice. I have four Emersons. Now I feel like an underachiever.
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 1:39:44 PM EDT
[#20]
I haven't seen one yet I'd baton anything beyond kindling with. I've broken more than one attempting to use it like a fixed blade. A folder will do a lot of what a fixed blade will do but there are definite limits.
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 1:42:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shoresy:
I haven't seen one yet I'd baton anything beyond kindling with. I've broken more than one attempting to use it like a fixed blade. A folder will do a lot of what a fixed blade will do but there are definite limits.
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I do agree with this. And I'd rather not break a $300 knife. If I'm out roughing it, I always carry a fixed blade Emerson or Benchmade.
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 2:21:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Shoresy:
I haven't seen one yet I'd baton anything beyond kindling with. I've broken more than one attempting to use it like a fixed blade. A folder will do a lot of what a fixed blade will do but there are definite limits.
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Not that would want to do any heavy beating with a baton with a folder, but it's more about technique and not putting the pounding on the locking mechanism:

Cut Down a Tree With a Pocket Knife


The other challenge is that once you get a folder that is robust enough to use as a fixed blade, they lose much of their value as an efficient cutting tool. Too thick, steep bevels, not well balanced, etc.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 3:53:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
I don’t think anything has beat a cold steel folder with a tri-ad lock yet as far as toughness.  I have three.  Generally they don’t open as smoothly as others but they will not fail once open either.
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The Cold Steel knives are hard to beat, I think I've seen the 4max Scout in the $5x range. I rarely carry a locking folder but when I do it's a CS Ultimate Hunter. Very ergonomic and tough but they need some break-in as they can stick open. I bought a second one when Lynn sold the company.
I've had an XL Voyager for a long time, stopped carrying them when I fucked up my thumb with my second one. Whoops.
I stick to SAKs and fixed blades for the most part now. A $35 SRK or SRK Compact is a hell of a deal. I really like my Compacts, much less of a crowbar than the full-size.
Link Posted: 4/20/2023 1:34:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brachiosaur:

The Cold Steel knives are hard to beat, I think I've seen the 4max Scout in the $5x range. I rarely carry a locking folder but when I do it's a CS Ultimate Hunter. Very ergonomic and tough but they need some break-in as they can stick open. I bought a second one when Lynn sold the company.
I've had an XL Voyager for a long time, stopped carrying them when I fucked up my thumb with my second one. Whoops.
I stick to SAKs and fixed blades for the most part now. A $35 SRK or SRK Compact is a hell of a deal. I really like my Compacts, much less of a crowbar than the full-size.
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Originally Posted By brachiosaur:
Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
I don’t think anything has beat a cold steel folder with a tri-ad lock yet as far as toughness.  I have three.  Generally they don’t open as smoothly as others but they will not fail once open either.

The Cold Steel knives are hard to beat, I think I've seen the 4max Scout in the $5x range. I rarely carry a locking folder but when I do it's a CS Ultimate Hunter. Very ergonomic and tough but they need some break-in as they can stick open. I bought a second one when Lynn sold the company.
I've had an XL Voyager for a long time, stopped carrying them when I fucked up my thumb with my second one. Whoops.
I stick to SAKs and fixed blades for the most part now. A $35 SRK or SRK Compact is a hell of a deal. I really like my Compacts, much less of a crowbar than the full-size.

I have a mini-tuff light, large voyager, kobun and Code 4 spear point in S35V (what I am currently carrying).  I got them all before the sale to GSM.  I am not sure how the sale has impacted the CS line.  I would like to get a SAK.  The kobun is a nice size for a fixed blade if you are into tanto points.
Link Posted: 4/20/2023 1:41:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tsg68] [#25]
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I have one of those, the blades were pretty fragile.  The bead blasted handle also rusted like crazy.  Great concept, poor execution.
Link Posted: 4/20/2023 1:42:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Pretty much ant ZT. Even the smaller ones are tough as Hell. If you want a beast the 350 is hard to beat but a little large for edc
Link Posted: 5/18/2023 1:57:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

@stone-age
I let the Youtubers do it to their own blades, but they do give you a good idea of the amount of abuse some folders can handle. As we all know, lateral stress is the weak link, but some locking mechanisms are far more robust than others.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_101008.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20210328_100924.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

There are a few that take a secondary pin to really make them stout...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/.highres/20180404_121521_zps1kf4gmum.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

However, the best off-the-shelf, seriously tough folder is Cold Steel's 4-Max with the stout Tri-Ad lock. Mines is the second generation and CPM 20CV and it's a pretty thick blade (0.18" thick compared to the pretty well-know Benchmade Adamas at 0.14")

I know knives, especially folders, aren't pry bars, picks, or choppers, but quite honestly, when you need an immediate solution to an extreme problem where time, distance, or circumstance doesn't allow you go grab the "right tool", you may very well need to use that folder in your pocket. Nothing rarely goes according to plan and that folder in your pocket may need to solve a problem it's not quite designed to solve. I have mostly been able to avoid that situation with my folders, but I've abused a few fixed blades well beyond their cutting purpose.

Even the original Al Mar SERE "Attack" folder was designed for such purposes of a compact tool (for crewman needling less on their person to get snagged or in the way) to serve almost as a fixed blade for SERE, from cutting themselves out of the thin aircraft skin to all the "survival" cutting tasks necessary for survival and evasion.

These are all my "big" folders with a Glock 26 and Mad Dog Pygmy ATAK fixed blade with a 5.5" blade.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Blades/20190918_114034_zps7ekyagxj.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

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I picked up a mint Cold Steel 4-Max several months ago and what a total BEAST. I've got some badass Zero Tolerance folders that are sturdy (and beautiful), but the 4-Max is next level in beefiness.
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 2:29:09 AM EDT
[#28]
Emerson or ZT.
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 3:44:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


I'd been considering the 4max. I have large and small griptillians I carry but I'm always a little concerned I'm going to break something on them. So I'm kind of gentle with them.
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I have one of the 20CV 4-Max's as well, great knife. Big and heavy, but if you don't mind, it's stout. Mine opens very smoothly, as well as closes easily once the lock is disengaged.
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 4:10:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By stone-age:
There is likely already a forum or youtube channel that has the answer, I just don't know about it.

I want to know if anybody takes folders and chops, pries, and batons on them to see what can take the abuse and what can't. I'm pretty rough on my knives, I often use them for choppers and that is rough on the mechanisms. I sometimes carry a fixed blade but not typically.
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There are folding knives capable of meeting those requirements.

The downside is fulfilling those requirements runs opposite to the blade geometries needed for high performance cutting - the primary function of a knife, especially a folding knife.

It's akin to getting a pistol optimized for its pistol whipping capabilities.
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 6:05:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
There are folding knives capable of meeting those requirements.

The downside is fulfilling those requirements runs opposite to the blade geometries needed for high performance cutting - the primary function of a knife, especially a folding knife.

It's akin to getting a pistol optimized for its pistol whipping capabilities.
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Well said. I do like (mostly in the past) a heavy duty folder, but the sturdier it gets, the likelihood of cutting proficiency goes down.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 6/4/2023 7:19:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PhuzzyGnu] [#32]
I'm sure someone who knows more will tell me why I am wrong.

I've had a Pocket Bushman for years and it just works -for me.  Ugly, no frills, awkward locking mechanism and all.

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It's clipped to the backpack I toss into my Peterbilt every day.  I use it for truck things.  Cutting, prying, banging.

It's not my EDC and it's not my only knife.  It is the one that gets the most hard use.




Link Posted: 6/5/2023 6:30:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Kabar Mule, have had one for about 12-13 years now, awesome do-everything knife, not expensive either, easy to sharpen and does a far better job at holding an edge than AUS-8 is supposed to be capable of.
Link Posted: 6/5/2023 7:23:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Rick Hinderer XM-18
Link Posted: 6/7/2023 7:53:26 AM EDT
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Yes. I've had my Eklipse and wharncliffe XM-18 in EDC rotation for a while now. I love them.

Just sharpened my non-flipper spanto XM-18 and gave it a makeover with a new natural G-10 scale. Going to start carrying it again.
Link Posted: 6/7/2023 1:38:48 PM EDT
[#36]
I have a microtech anax in Elmax that i beat the daylights out of.  Not much batonning but a whole lot of prying and scraping solder and copper.
Link Posted: 6/8/2023 10:54:26 PM EDT
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Very nice. Looks like a ZT 0562. Or probably more like an 0562 looks like an XM-18, since the ZT is a Hinderer design.
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 2:07:33 PM EDT
[#38]
For a truly hard use folder, you are looking for the strongest lock mechanism and Cold Steel is the only option worth considering. Nothing out there compares to their Triad lock, that doesn't require a secondary locking activation/mechanism (like manually inserting/removing a pin etc. everytime you want to open or close the knife). You can spend thousands on the most exclusive IG clout folder that will not offer anywhere near the security against closing on you that a Cold Steel Triad locked folder will.
Link Posted: 6/11/2023 11:37:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

Not that would want to do any heavy beating with a baton with a folder, but it's more about technique and not putting the pounding on the locking mechanism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm2uzP3FM0Y

The other challenge is that once you get a folder that is robust enough to use as a fixed blade, they lose much of their value as an efficient cutting tool. Too thick, steep bevels, not well balanced, etc.

ROCK6
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That’s why I liked the Strider GB and AR they were thick blades but they were broad and had almost full grinds which made them tough but still relatively delicate cutters.  They made versions with steep partial grinds and thick spines but they weren’t as efficient as knives.
Link Posted: 6/12/2023 9:58:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-] [#40]
Keep in mind there’s a balance.

My ZT 0350 I beat the piss out of and it was a great knife.

My Hinderer ZT 0393 could survive a nuclear bomb but it’s an absolute piece of worthless shit as a knife.
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 6:18:35 AM EDT
[#41]
What is everyone’s’ opinion of the discontinued Buck Strider line?
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 7:56:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R0N:
What is everyone’s’ opinion of the discontinued Buck Strider line?
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If you can find one for sale get it.  I have not seen one in a long time.  I think the Buck version used their 420HC steel.
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:

If you can find one for sale get it.  I have not seen one in a long time.  I think the Buck version used their 420HC steel.
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
Originally Posted By R0N:
What is everyone’s’ opinion of the discontinued Buck Strider line?

If you can find one for sale get it.  I have not seen one in a long time.  I think the Buck version used their 420HC steel.

When my father passed I found 1 fix blade and 3 folders in his box of knives. The folders have been sharpened and carried but the fix blade looks untouched.

*they have BoS heat treated ATS-34 stamped on them.

Edited to add is was 5 folders not 3
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 8:27:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R0N:

When my father passed I found 1 fix blade and 3 folders in his box of knives. The folders have been sharpened and carried but the fix blade looks untouched.

*they have BoS heat treated ATS-34 stamped on them.
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I think that is a very rare Buck Strider.  I would maybe not carry it.  Get a Cold Steel in S35V to carry and keep all the Buck Striders in a locked box.  They don't make them anymore.  They are valuable.
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 6:42:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:

Hahaha, not quite an "expert", just a user who likes knives

Oh, and I like Emerson Knives as well (including their "wave" feature). They've been on my short list for folders I have (and wouldn't hesitate) taking into combat:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

ROCK6
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Originally Posted By BIG-DUKE-6:
Emerson has never let me down. I’ve put those knives through Hell.

And they have the reputation to back it up.  

ROCK 6 IS the Arfcomm knife expert .

Hahaha, not quite an "expert", just a user who likes knives

Oh, and I like Emerson Knives as well (including their "wave" feature). They've been on my short list for folders I have (and wouldn't hesitate) taking into combat:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/Emerson.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

ROCK6

Emerson was gonna be my suggestion. ZT is another great choice. I have one each.
Link Posted: 6/13/2023 7:39:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:

I think that is a very rare Buck Strider.  I would maybe not carry it.  Get a Cold Steel in S35V to carry and keep all the Buck Striders in a locked box.  They don't make them anymore.  They are valuable.
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
Originally Posted By R0N:

When my father passed I found 1 fix blade and 3 folders in his box of knives. The folders have been sharpened and carried but the fix blade looks untouched.

*they have BoS heat treated ATS-34 stamped on them.

I think that is a very rare Buck Strider.  I would maybe not carry it.  Get a Cold Steel in S35V to carry and keep all the Buck Striders in a locked box.  They don't make them anymore.  They are valuable.

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I know there is second of the smaller ones somewhere in my stuff.
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 1:45:13 AM EDT
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Cold Steel Tri-Ad lock is one of the strongest on the market.
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Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Slingblade2006:
Originally Posted By R0N:

When my father passed I found 1 fix blade and 3 folders in his box of knives. The folders have been sharpened and carried but the fix blade looks untouched.

*they have BoS heat treated ATS-34 stamped on them.

I think that is a very rare Buck Strider.  I would maybe not carry it.  Get a Cold Steel in S35V to carry and keep all the Buck Striders in a locked box.  They don't make them anymore.  They are valuable.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56596/IMG_1254_jpeg-2850573.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56596/IMG_1255_jpeg-2850574.JPG

I know there is second of the smaller ones somewhere in my stuff.

Those are awesome.  Thank you for sharing a picture of them.  You might find more info over at Bladeforums.com.
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 9:31:11 AM EDT
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I've carried Emerson folders of one style or another for the last 20 years.  I have never had one fail... 2 Iraq deployments, hunting and hiking in Idaho, (everything from batonning it through kindling to skinning deer, elk, and moose, gutting steelhead, or sparking flint firestarting rods), cutting wires or prying open the little change box my wife uses for her home-school co-op bake sales after she lost the keys.

I EDC a Super Karambit and a Mini-Commander.  I would trust my life to Emerson Folders.

ETA: I've got a TOPS Wild Pig Hunter I carry while hunting and hiking as well, but tend to pull out the Emerson for 95% of all tasks while in the woods.
Link Posted: 6/14/2023 9:45:24 AM EDT
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Emerson all day. You can sharpen 154 on a coffee mug.

Fuck Benchmade.
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