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4/22/2013 6:56:59 AM EDT
I've heard a lot about the benefits of dryfire and I'm thinking of giving it a shot (ha). Anyone know of any good books with drills or anything like that?



ETA. Someone PM'd me and recommended the Ben Stoeger books. Has anyone read them? Are they any good?

4/22/2013 8:58:12 AM EDT
[#1]
I like Steve Anderson's books. He also has a podcast that is usually pretty entertaining (and informative).
4/23/2013 9:50:19 AM EDT
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Quoted:


I like Steve Anderson's books. He also has a podcast that is usually pretty entertaining (and informative).


That's awesome. Thanks.



I did a little research and apparently he can get my draw to .70 in like the first 15 minutes of his class. I may have to jump on that.



 
4/24/2013 8:38:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I like Steve Anderson's books. He also has a podcast that is usually pretty entertaining (and informative).

That's awesome. Thanks.

I did a little research and apparently he can get my draw to .70 in like the first 15 minutes of his class. I may have to jump on that.
 


I have all the above, and I just picked up Mike Seeklander's Competition Training Book which IMO, is the most comprehensive out of the bunch.  He has you brainstorm goals, and then commit to both a live fire and a dry fire practice routine.   Very Good stuff.
4/26/2013 4:34:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I like Steve Anderson's books. He also has a podcast that is usually pretty entertaining (and informative).

That's awesome. Thanks.

I did a little research and apparently he can get my draw to .70 in like the first 15 minutes of his class. I may have to jump on that.
 


I took a dryfire class from Steve and would highly recommend it.
5/14/2013 6:58:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Steve Anderson's book seems to be the one that gets the most recognition, I keep putting it off, but I need to pick up a copy of it.  If you haven't done any dry fire work, just start doing it before buying anything, it will help a lot.  Start simple, just pulling the trigger without disturbing the sights.  Then move onto drawing and pulling the trigger.  Then move to drawing, pulling the trigger and mag changes.  This alone will help a lot.
6/26/2013 6:18:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Just got Steve Anderson´s book (and Ben Stoeger´s).

So I´m looking for a timer to work this out, should work for dry and life fire.  

Needed features for the timer:
- PAR time option
- Random start signal
- adjustable loudness (for training in my basement at home, without getting trouble with my wifey...)

Could you recommend me one, please?
6/26/2013 7:19:56 PM EDT
[#7]
There are free shot timer apps, with par time features, for every major smartphone OS.
6/26/2013 10:45:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Yessir, thank you.

Unfortunately I´m an old school guy, having a handy only for phoning.


In the end I think I will need a timer for dry and life fire, practicing and competition (wanna become RO).

So, can you please help me out with this question, please?  

Needed features for the timer:
- PAR time option
- Random start signal
- adjustable loudness (for training in my basement at home, without getting trouble with my wifey...)
6/27/2013 11:27:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Yessir, thank you.

Unfortunately I´m an old school guy, having a handy only for phoning.


In the end I think I will need a timer for dry and life fire, practicing and competition (wanna become RO).

So, can you please help me out with this question, please?  

Needed features for the timer:
- PAR time option
- Random start signal
- adjustable loudness (for training in my basement at home, without getting trouble with my wifey...)


This is what I use.  Not sure on the adjustable loudness, but it has been flawless
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/759103/ced-7000-shot-timer

This is what the local clubs in my area use.  Significantly more bulk, however it has been pretty reliable from what I've seen
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/772064/competition-electronics-pocket-pro-shot-timer
6/28/2013 12:24:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Thank you so far, sir.
These are now the two last in the race.

From the CED7000 I´ve heard, that there are sometimes problems with the buttons, which could be damaged.

The Pocket Pro2 seems to cause trouble when it rains (wet) or when it´s to hot, because the display goes down.
Others report of software malfunctions right from the start.

Any experiences with that?
6/28/2013 9:33:02 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Thank you so far, sir.
These are now the two last in the race.

From the CED7000 I´ve heard, that there are sometimes problems with the buttons, which could be damaged.

The Pocket Pro2 seems to cause trouble when it rains (wet) or when it´s to hot, because the display goes down.
Others report of software malfunctions right from the start.

Any experiences with that?


My CED 7000 has been pretty great, and I don't baby it.  I have probably dropped it about 10 times (while practicing turn and draws), and I am not running it with a silicon cover.  I am not proud of that, but its sturdiness and reliability has impressed me.  

We use both the newer (blue) and older (grey) versions of the pocket pro2, and while I would not want to submerge the timer, we do live in oregon where it rains more often then not, and I have not been aware of any issues caused by rain.  One thing to consider is the pocket pro2 has a bigger display and can show you a bunch of splits on the same screen, while with my CED I have to scroll through splits one at a time.  I have heard about reliability issues with the pocket pro, but I have not personally seen any.
6/28/2013 11:32:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Thank you sir, great advice!

What you are writing is that, what I´ve read by googling.


I only know the CED7000 over here, it is widely present over here in Germany (and Europe).
And yes, it seems to be a very good product, hands down.

But I´m curious about the Pocket Pro 2 for some reason.
I love the larger display, the simpler handling, the bigger and more aparted buttons, like to hang it on my belt or sidebag to watch right on the display.

The CED7000 seems to be a little to small for my big and awkward hands.
In my opinion it has a lot of functions I don´t need (not to speak from the pro) and therefore it has a to big menu which makes to much clicks required to get the job done, just kind a overkill (in my opinion of course, being a fan of the KISS - principle and still having a handy which only phones and sends SMS    ).

The con is, that I´ve read, like you said, about some issues with the Pocket Pro 2.
Sometimes there seem to be malfuntions (software?) when they come brandnew from the factory, and sometimes there are probs with the display in rainy / foggy wheather or when it is to hot.
But I can´t get that fixed, so I´m still waiting for some advices in this direction.

Another problem is, that you can get the CED7000 in nearly every specialized store over here, but there seems to be no trader for the Pocket Pro´s over here in Germany, not even in whole Europe what I found out.

That, implicated with the mighty probs, and so given waiting times of weeks if I have any issue, drives me a little bit away from the Pocket Pro.
(Can´t believe, that there is not any dealer for that product over here.)

Is anyone able or willing to give me an advice or tell me his experiences about the reliability of the Pocket Pro 2?


Thanks a lot!


P.S.: As being not a native English speaker, I hope that there are not to much write errors in my text.
If so, I´m begging for your pardon.
6/29/2013 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#13]
I've been competing and SOing IDPA for over 10 years and I like the Pocket Pro 2 the best. The reasons are below.

The LCD screen does not darken in heat and is visible at all angles with polarized sunglasses.
Variable par time and random start time.
Backlit display for night matches.
Uses 9 volt batteries, no worrying about recharging.
Display can be set for large (1/2") numbers.
Adjustable sensitivity and shot dwell time, good for indoor ranges.
Fits in my hand perfectly, one big button on the side for starting.
Belt clip actually works.
Auto sleep mode, no more dead batteries because I forgot to turn it off.

It does not have a volume control but I just put a few layers of masking tape over the speaker to quiet it down.

ETA.
I have had no real reliability issues with the Pocket Pro 2. If you drop it just right, the battery can compress the spring contacts and they need to be bent back to normal position.  Maybe once a year, the display looks blocky when I first turn it on. I pull the battery and put it back in and it looks normal. I have never had it go down in a match.

ETA-2
LCD not LED.

Gringop
7/1/2013 2:04:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Yessir!

Ordered me the Pocket Pro 2 directly from the manufacturer.

Thanks for your advices!
7/1/2013 7:34:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Yessir!

Ordered me the Pocket Pro 2 directly from the manufacturer.

Thanks for your advices!


good to hear!  Look forward to impressive drops in your PAR times!

Be sure to look for the Chuck Anderson's Dry Fire books for drills!
7/3/2013 5:30:34 AM EDT
[#16]
I googled Dry Fire Practice and found a 15 minute program.  When I was doing it I feel it helped me get onto target faster with my first shot.  Recently dry fire threads have popped up and people say the same stuff.  Yes it's pracitce and if you don't take practice seriously you won't get much out of it or you'll teach yourself bad habits.  If you take it serious and grip the gun like it's loaded, pull the trigger like a bullet is coming out and watch the front sight to see what it does, you'll learn a lot.  I try and do it longer than 15 minutes and I don't sit on the couch like I've read in other posts/videos/threads/discussions etc.  

I also feel the same way about using a 22 to practice.  If you're going to half ass it and say "oh it's a 22 I don' t need to grip it that tight" then I'd say "you bought a $500 paper weight because it's not helping you train, it's helping you learn bad habits."

Practice reloads, practice moving and shooting, practice draw and fire, practice unloaded to loaded and fire, grab each magazine off your belt don't just do the first one, find a target that's the size of the A zone and make your front sight land on that every time.  do 10 perfect draws then move to the next activity.  It's pretty easy to fill an hour of time doing this.  I sometimes wish I had my old schedule (12-9p) so I could spend the mornings practicing for an hour or two.