Posted: 9/21/2010 1:13:44 PM EDT
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Want to purchase a Garand for a return to HP competition. I shot a 40 X back in the 70's but I'm a neophyte when it come to this rifle. Would you explain what the condition designations and marking mean. All input very much appreciated.
This is a typical explanation. "Excellent Condition Restored M1 Garand by RDO Specialties. Metal re-parkerized to a military finish. Wood restored without sanding, refinished. No cracks, minimal ding and dents. Stock is marked with DOD stamp and circle P. Barrel is marked 2-52 SA. TE is 4. Muzzle shows quite a bit of the bullet. All major parts are SA. All sales are final. Limited Warranty by RDO Specialties." |
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You may wish to find the CMP forums and read EVERYTHING concerning the M1. Best educational sight I have found.
Also, you may wish to reconsider the M1 as a competitive High Power rifle. The JCG matches and the Cmp games are better suited for Garand fans. TE=Throat erosion ME=Muzzle Erosion DAS=Defense acceptance stamp (usgi) 2-52=Feb 1952. (or any other date code) DoD=Department of Defense SA=Springfield Armory IHC=International Harvester HRA=H&R WIN=Winchester LB=Lockbars Too much too list here. Google Scott Duff, Fulton Armory, CMP, GCA, Creedmoor Cup CMP games. All good educational websights. |
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"This is a typical explanation. "
You might want to look at the CMP's service grade M1s - likely much cheaper than whoever "RDO Specialities" is. If you really desire to compete in HP, you can take that rifle to a few of the remaining match builders and have it built up. Edit: just looked them up. They take M1s, ruin all collector value, and double the price. Ick. |
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"Lets not forget that people shot cleans with M1s and M-14s back in the day. " More shoot cleans with the AR. Costs less too. M1 would not be my first choice for a rifle. ARs are a hands down better platform. However they are more than just competitive against other Garands. B |
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"However they are more than just competitive against other Garands. "
Good scores can be shot with Garands, but they cost more, require more maintenance, and are much harder to shoot well than an AR. Same holds true for the M14. That's why, apart from the Games events, they are all but gone from Highpower. |
| The record for the NRA Championship with a Service Rifle is 2385/2400 set by the finest service rifle competitor out there - Grant Singley - with an M16. The record - period - is 2396/2400 with a Match Rifle (Tubb 2000 in 260 Rem, I think) set this year by possibly the finest shooter of all time - Sherri Gallagher. |
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Lets not forget that people shot cleans with M1s and M-14s back in the day. B The national XTC ag record is 2395/2400 with a service rifle. It was an AR15. Tell me more about who shot clean with a garand. 2385!!!! I stand corrected. And I can't type. TYPO!! And I still ask, who has shot clean XTC with a garand? |
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It's funny how my post has been deliberately misconstrued to imply that someone shot a 2400 with a Garand at the National Championships when I was stating that they are more than competitive just against other Garands (even with a clarifying post). I think most readers would know that I meant strings of fire. As in I cleaned the sitting stage.
So instead of elevating the conversation and commenting about what you though the definition of competitive should be, you try and do am internet Mexican hat dance on my clarifying post. It's the archer, not the arrow. B |
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Lets not forget that people shot cleans with M1s and M-14s back in the day. B The national XTC ag record is 2395/2400 with a service rifle. It was an AR15. Tell me more about who shot clean with a garand. 2385!!!! I stand corrected. And I can't type. TYPO!! And I still ask, who has shot clean XTC with a garand? a 'clean' generally refers to a stage of the match .................... not the whole thing 
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