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7/20/2008 4:16:23 PM EDT
I shot Limited Ten with a Glock 17 in an eagle cordura belt holster and uncle mike's mag pouches.  I had a ton of fun even though I did not even know what division to sign up for.  I think I did fairly well.  I just tried to take my time and make hits.  I never had more than 2 misses (except on the 5 second qualifier).  Some hits factors that I got were 1.68 and 1.4 something.  Are those horrible?  What is a competitive hit factor?
7/20/2008 6:02:52 PM EDT
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The 1st match just flies by.....

Dont worry about your score the first few matches.

Learn the commands and shoot slow enough so you have zero misses will really help your score.  

One of the best things I was told whme I started was Dont try to be fast, just try to be very smooth.

I shot a bone stock 8rd SigP220 for years so dont get caught up in the arms race too early. I see plenty of guys around here kicking ass with G17's so thats a good start.  

good luck
7/21/2008 5:57:10 AM EDT
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thanks u-baddog but can you tell me anything about the hit factor.  I will probably know more when the scores are posted but I am trying to have a better understanding so I can practice on my own.
7/21/2008 11:20:20 AM EDT
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thanks u-baddog but can you tell me anything about the hit factor.  I will probably know more when the scores are posted but I am trying to have a better understanding so I can practice on my own.


What a good hit factor is will change from stage to stage so it is impossible to tell you without knowing the stage. I would just work on being smooth with zero mikes and you will be happy with your score no matter what. Enjoy the addiction
7/21/2008 6:07:54 PM EDT
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Cool  !  I LOVE USPSA/IPSC

Hope you had FUN

Hit factor = score (points) divided by time.

a Glock 9mm is legal in LIM-10, LIM,  but most 9mm(iron sight) guys shoot PRODUCTION.

Make an effort to be smooth, and see your front sight.

If you rush,  you'll crash and burn.

If you practice smooth draws,  dryfire, and reloads,  you will get better.
7/22/2008 8:48:40 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.
7/22/2008 8:52:10 AM EDT
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I never ran in the whole competition.  next time I will still take my time when shooting but hustle more between positions.  I was very concerned with being safe and was extra cautious my first time.  Next time I plan on Rock'n and rollin'.
7/23/2008 8:24:15 PM EDT
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Take the time to get your hits. Everything else, drawing, mag changes, moving from shooting positions, should be done as fast as you can safely go.

7/29/2008 6:57:03 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.
7/29/2008 9:06:18 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.
7/29/2008 9:08:55 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


that's only if he tries to go Major.

He can shoot 9mm MINOR in Limited.

From the 2008 uspsa rulebook

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf

page 72

Minimum power factor for Major 165

2 Minimum power factor for Minor 125

3 Minimum bullet weight No

4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length .38 cal. / 9x19 mm

(0.354” x 0.748”)

5 Minimum bullet caliber for Major .40 cal. / 10mm (0.40”)

7/29/2008 9:13:21 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


HUH??? How did I get my B classification shooting 9mm in limited 10???
7/29/2008 9:55:12 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


that's only if he tries to go Major.

He can shoot 9mm MINOR in Limited.

From the 2008 uspsa rulebook

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf

page 72

Minimum power factor for Major 165

2 Minimum power factor for Minor 125

3 Minimum bullet weight No

4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length .38 cal. / 9x19 mm

(0.354” x 0.748”)

5 Minimum bullet caliber for Major .40 cal. / 10mm (0.40”)



You are right, I am sorry I knew you could not shoot 9 major, but did not know you could shoot 9 minor. Not sure why you would want to give away the points though.
7/29/2008 11:09:56 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


that's only if he tries to go Major.

He can shoot 9mm MINOR in Limited.

From the 2008 uspsa rulebook

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf

page 72

Minimum power factor for Major 165

2 Minimum power factor for Minor 125

3 Minimum bullet weight No

4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length .38 cal. / 9x19 mm

(0.354” x 0.748”)

5 Minimum bullet caliber for Major .40 cal. / 10mm (0.40”)



You are right, I am sorry I knew you could not shoot 9 major, but did not know you could shoot 9 minor. Not sure why you would want to give away the points though.


It actually makes you nut up and shoot more A's. Its good training for production IMHO. I shoot limited 10 sometimes just to make myself slow down and make good shots.
7/29/2008 11:26:58 AM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


that's only if he tries to go Major.

He can shoot 9mm MINOR in Limited.

From the 2008 uspsa rulebook

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf

page 72

Minimum power factor for Major 165

2 Minimum power factor for Minor 125

3 Minimum bullet weight No

4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length .38 cal. / 9x19 mm

(0.354” x 0.748”)

5 Minimum bullet caliber for Major .40 cal. / 10mm (0.40”)



You are right, I am sorry I knew you could not shoot 9 major, but did not know you could shoot 9 minor. Not sure why you would want to give away the points though.


It actually makes you nut up and shoot more A's. Its good training for production IMHO. I shoot limited 10 sometimes just to make myself slow down and make good shots.


Who wants to slow down? That is why I switched to open
7/29/2008 12:06:19 PM EDT
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thanks guys.  so I found out I was actually shooting production when I thought I was shooting limited 10.  I got 8th place overall out of 13 competitors (1 was dq'ed).  On some stages I got as high as 5th place.  I will be classified as a D shooter overall but on some stages I did as good as C.  I will probably shoot in limited next time so I get the practical training of having the actual capacity of 17 rounds which is what I carry.


You will be a little more competitive in production. You wont get into the arms race. Using only 10 rounds forces you to do more reloads in competition, which is great practice.


If he is using a 9mm he is not able to shoot limited or limited 10 due to their requirment of at least .38 caliber bullet. Production is the only option.


that's only if he tries to go Major.

He can shoot 9mm MINOR in Limited.

From the 2008 uspsa rulebook

www.uspsa.org/rules/2008HandgunRulesindexed.pdf

page 72

Minimum power factor for Major 165

2 Minimum power factor for Minor 125

3 Minimum bullet weight No

4 Minimum bullet caliber / cartridge case length .38 cal. / 9x19 mm

(0.354” x 0.748”)

5 Minimum bullet caliber for Major .40 cal. / 10mm (0.40”)



You are right, I am sorry I knew you could not shoot 9 major, but did not know you could shoot 9 minor. Not sure why you would want to give away the points though.


It actually makes you nut up and shoot more A's. Its good training for production IMHO. I shoot limited 10 sometimes just to make myself slow down and make good shots.


Who wants to slow down? That is why I switched to open


Good point. Sometimes I find myself more concerned with my time than my hits. It bit me in the ass this weekend.