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7/16/2013 6:11:48 AM EDT
Anyone alse attending the rifle course at Camp Perry in a couple weeks?

Any advice on what to bring?

I just started shooting highpower this summer, and am really excited to attend!
7/16/2013 7:43:20 AM EDT
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They'll provide you with a rifle and ammo.  Don't bother bringing a sling, you have to use the web sling on the rifle as a "hasty" sling.  I would bring everything else you normally would need (mat, coat if you have one, scope, etc).  We took it the year before they got new rifles, and our coach had his scope wtih him.

I will say we learned quite a bit.  We had a very good coach who provided a lot of one-on-one instruction, showed us how to mark our sights, a bit more than most got from what I heard.  Have fun!
7/16/2013 8:26:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Yes
Been a CMP games
Started them in 2001
Picked up mouse gun last year and started shooting XTC with son
This will be his 5th year and is able to do USMC clinic on his own 3rd year doing that.
So I am shooting SAFS

My question can I add Bob Jones lens to rear for match?
7/16/2013 9:36:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Bring everything you would normally bring to a highpower match except your rifle & ammo. You might end up using their mags, and your coach will probably have a mat, but I would bring those just in case. At 200 yards you don't really need a scope, though it is nice to see the groups in the rapid fire stages. Or to take a look at a shot that's close to the line. The people in the pits might be down there for the first time, so you want to double check their work.






Also bring a notebook and a couple of pens to take notes during the lectures. And be sure to record your zeros after practice on the first day, so you don't have to re-sight the rifle during the match on the second day. Also write down the serial number of the rifle you us on the practice day, to make sure you use the same one in the match. Now and then, they'll be a firing point off. You want the same rifle, so your zero is the same.







Perry, being Perry, also bring sunscreen & rain gear, bug spray, plenty of stuff to drink and your lunch on both days.







The SAFS is a tremendous opportunity to get some great information from the best shooters in the sport. The AMU coaches and shooters are very good teachers and are very welcoming of questions during the breaks.







Also, many of the people at SAFS have never shot a match before, so if you stay focused on match day, it's an excellent opportunity to get those first 4 Distinguished Rifleman points. You'll see a lot of people shooting in just a tshirt & shorts. But if you've got a shooting coat, wear it. And use your other gear. If you approach the second day as a real match that you're capable of winning (which it is), you'll do well.







Good Luck. Shoot lots of 10's & X's!

 
7/16/2013 9:37:40 AM EDT
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I don't think they'd let you change out the rear sight for a Bob Jones, but they might. Ask your coach when you get to the line. He or she might say yes. The worst thing they'll say is no.
7/16/2013 9:46:11 PM EDT
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Do the rifles they supply even have the ability to change out the aperture?
7/17/2013 3:31:58 AM EDT
[#6]
They are Rock River NM

I have it in RR hood set up as spare for micro sight
It pops in and out with rubber O rings so I can add/remove without changing anything
7/17/2013 2:16:54 PM EDT
[#7]
I will be there as a coach. Last time I taught there in 2010, the rifles were rack grade actual M16A2's... Didn't know it changed. Been off the team too long. It's one of my favorite parts of Perry. It's great to get to instruct a small group that really want to learn.
7/19/2013 8:36:46 AM EDT
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I hope I get to shake hands next week Panzer

Jim Kinley
7/19/2013 12:12:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Hey panzer, how would we recognize you?
7/19/2013 12:30:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I'll be there. Turns out I'm bringing 3 new shooters too! - Feel free to look me up tht weekend, would be good to meet folks, - Chris Bennett
7/20/2013 11:26:45 AM EDT
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I look just like my picture.....

Nah...  Ill be a bald headed sunburned All Guard Army  shooter... Well one of 5 that fit that description..... ;)

SSG O'Neal is my real name...  Interservice hasn't been kind to me this year, but the issued rifle is now zeroed and all the kinks worked out. The support guys are great and have fixed every little thing through the week without any issues. The rifle is just right now.... Which makes it all on me... no pressure...

Perry is going to be great and I look fwd to meeting and seeing as many of you there as I can. I really do look fwd to SAFS. In 2010 I got to teach a member here and his daughter. She was a natural at sitting, but would not agree to me cutting her hair like mine to keep it out of her eyes... also got to coach a jr team and they were great, just loved to shoot and got so excited. Makes you remember what this is all about.

7/20/2013 5:28:31 PM EDT
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I'm going
7/21/2013 7:35:09 AM EDT
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Someone needs to have a prominent bolt face logo so we can all meet up!
7/21/2013 8:54:41 AM EDT
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7/21/2013 2:30:20 PM EDT
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Be sure to sign up for the M16 match after the SAFS.  If you place in the top 10% you will get 4 EIC points and a nice medal.  Bring a spray can of Birchwood-Casey sight black and a pen and note pad to the live fire practice and M16 match.  Four to six other people in your squad will be using the same rifle.  Expect each of them to adjust the sight before it is your turn to fire.  Record the sight settings after sighting in during your practice fire.  Reset the sights before the M16 match and blacken the sights.  If you do not have a shooting coat wear a Carhart-type work coat over a thick sweatshirt.  Do not cinch the sling too tight unless your rifle's sling swivel is attached to an internal float tube.  A tight sling will deflect the barrel if the swivel is attached to the front sight base.  Good luck.
7/21/2013 4:02:57 PM EDT
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I wish we still had train service in Columbus.  
7/22/2013 5:18:32 PM EDT
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I'll be there! I've got CMP,ORPA and blue jackets stickers on my Schneller range cart
7/22/2013 5:31:08 PM EDT
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I'll put a BFL on my range box as soon as I improve enough that I don't bring shame upon the House of ARFcom with my scores.
7/28/2013 5:46:50 PM EDT
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what was everyone's scores? at safs mine was 291
7/28/2013 6:57:05 PM EDT
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384-8
7/29/2013 4:11:34 AM EDT
[#21]
363-7x

Missed EIC points by less than 7 pts...ugh

Anyone else spend the last 3 1/2 hours in the pits
7/29/2013 6:46:38 AM EDT
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361 - 10X.  I was relay #1 Sunday and easily on the way to EIC points and a 380+ when I screwed the pooch during slow fire standing.  









Sunday afternoon in the pits was brutal between the cease fire and then having to pull targets for the coaches.  I didn't get back to my truck until 4 PM.  




3 1/2 hours?  I thought it was more like 5 1/2 hours.  


 
7/29/2013 7:09:22 AM EDT
[#23]
361 2-x

Had a great time. Learned a lot and really enjoyed myself. I was on relay 5, so I did not have to go to the pits either day

My two buddies that went ended up in the pits for the coaches, so I had to lug all the gear back to the truck. Thats a long ass walk with 3 persons worth of gear!
7/29/2013 12:38:41 PM EDT
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I was down in the pits too.  Of course I had a 7 hour drive home too.  I was up on 137 so I didn't have to run any more targets, so we had a lot less to complain about!
7/29/2013 2:24:18 PM EDT
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never was in the pits relay 5 Ha ha pit pigs
7/30/2013 10:50:35 AM EDT
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350-6x Relay 5



The wind in the offhand stage was blowing me all over the place. (that and I need to seriously work on my sitting and awfull-hand positions)




I had SFC Peters from the AMU for a coach, that was pretty awesome.
7/30/2013 11:51:33 AM EDT
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my work scheduled has changed a bit for next year so i'm going to go to SAFS in 2014. I've decided to start getting excited about it now
7/30/2013 3:53:41 PM EDT
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I had my guys walk off the small end of the range. I think this was a bad move on the part of the CMP and needs to be addressed. I am disappointed by the arrogance of the AMU.
7/31/2013 2:13:35 AM EDT
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I had my guys walk off the small end of the range. I think this was a bad move on the part of the CMP and needs to be addressed. I am disappointed by the arrogance of the AMU.
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I was down in the pits too.  Of course I had a 7 hour drive home too.  I was up on 137 so I didn't have to run any more targets, so we had a lot less to complain about!


I had my guys walk off the small end of the range. I think this was a bad move on the part of the CMP and needs to be addressed. I am disappointed by the arrogance of the AMU.

there is a long angry thread about it on CMP

I would be grumpy about it too. Like some of the others have said if it would have been "can you stay" i would think most would have.
8/1/2013 2:26:35 AM EDT
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Made cut
Stayed to pull
Was happy to give back to those that gave time
This sport and people give much to you need t give back sometimes also
8/1/2013 9:30:16 PM EDT
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I was down in the pits too.  Of course I had a 7 hour drive home too.  I was up on 137 so I didn't have to run any more targets, so we had a lot less to complain about!




I had my guys walk off the small end of the range. I think this was a bad move on the part of the CMP and needs to be addressed. I am disappointed by the arrogance of the AMU.


If you have specific complaints, some of us know people at the AMU (and one of those people occasionally pokes around on here when he's bored).



 
8/2/2013 7:43:44 PM EDT
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there is a long angry thread about it on CMP

I would be grumpy about it too. Like some of the others have said if it would have been "can you stay" i would think most would have.
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I was down in the pits too.  Of course I had a 7 hour drive home too.  I was up on 137 so I didn't have to run any more targets, so we had a lot less to complain about!


I had my guys walk off the small end of the range. I think this was a bad move on the part of the CMP and needs to be addressed. I am disappointed by the arrogance of the AMU.

there is a long angry thread about it on CMP

I would be grumpy about it too. Like some of the others have said if it would have been "can you stay" i would think most would have.


Did you see Orest's response:

"as for the complaint - I understand the reason for the complaint. The situation has been explained to me from both sides. The main reason for doing it the way it was done was because we keep increasing the number of relays and participants in the SAFS and therefore try to find any place we can save a few minutes.

I guess our priorities are in the wrong place. We can cut back on the number allowed to participate."


I read that as, "You wanna bitch?  I'll give you something to bitch about."  
8/3/2013 10:44:31 AM EDT
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It would have gone MUCH faster if the people would have departed the 200 yard line as requested.  They stayed and stayed.  The coaches were completely moved and set up at 300 waiting for people to clear the range as requested over the speaker system and several trips on golf carts.   Then after we moved to the 600 they still didn't get the hint that they needed to move from the 300.  

10 minutes hot at both 3 and 6 could have been mighty quick.