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Posted: 10/14/2014 12:22:37 AM EDT
Ship damage from WWII torpedos & bombs.
http://www.i-16tou.com/okie/okie2.html Belt armor damage USS Oklahoma. (Large pic) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/USS_Oklahoma_%28BB37%29-_Salvage,_12-31-43,_7126-43,_Port_side_at_about_fr_60_after_removal_of_main_patch_in_drydock_-_NARA_-_296956.jpg Iowa class battleship armor USS Boise (CL-47) Number Three 6"/47 triple gun turret, showing the effects of a Japanese shell that struck the turret's 6½-inch class "A" armor face plate during the Battle of Cape Esperance, 12 October 1942. Photographed at the Philadelphia Navy Yard in November 1942, as the ship was receiving repairs. The shell, of unknown caliber, exploded on impact. It did relatively little damage to the armor, but its fragments riddled nearby structure and gouged the turret's guns. The explosion also destroyed the leather gun bucklers. Shipyard workers on the battleship West Virginia, which suffered heavy damage to its decks and hull. In March 1943, after a year of planning by contract engineers from the Pacific Bridge Co., workers began the painstaking process of righting the battleship, which measured 543 feet in length—twice as long as a modern 777 airliner. The feat of engineering involved connecting 21 cables to a network of shore winches, anchored by huge concrete blocks on Ford Island, to 40-foot-high wooden A-frames that ran across the hull’s bottom. Workers monitored the careful pulling of the ship over the next three months, as the Oklahoma gradually, almost imperceptibly, became upright again. By Dec. 28, 1943, the ship had made it to dry dock, where workers removed its guns and superstructure. The Oklahoma was sold to a San Francisco company for scrapping, but sank while being towed to California. November 1942: Jean Bart at Casablanca, Morocco showing battle damage received in her engagement with USS Massachusetts BB-59 and from aerial bombing during the Operation Torch landings Nov. 8-11, 1942. Damage from one of the bombs that hit Nevada during the attack on Pearl Harbor. Looking down through Franklin's flight deck hole after hit by kamikaze aircraft on October 30, 1944. USS Artisan (AFDB-1) with USS West Virginia (BB-48) held in floating drydock, off Aessi Island, Espiritu Santo, New Hebrides, on 13 November 1944. The battleship was docked for upkeep and repair to propellers damaged when she touched ground off Leyte on 21 October. USS Colorado (BB-45) steams off lower Manhattan, circa 1932. The battleship had just undergone an overhaul, including the installation of new 5"/25 caliber anti-aircraft guns. She would later provide earthquake relief at Long Beach, California. You can see the thick armor plating on this pic. http://static.squarespace.com/static/531fdb48e4b0e8fbe6259952/t/532a7fb8e4b091b8426cb23c/1395294138126/IMG_0621.JPG?format=1500w Bomb damage to HMS Indomitable, August 12, 1941. USS Yorktown (CV-5) damaged at the Battle of Midway. German cruiser bombed at German naval yard. USS McFarland damaged in collision with battleship. USS Hornet damage by typhoon. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/USS_Hornet_%28CV-12%29_damaged_flight_deck_1945.jpg Damage to the Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft carrier Shokaku sustained on May 8, 1942 during the Battle of the Coral Sea. http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-PR-Japan/img/USA-PR-Japan-461.1.jpg Scuttled Japanese aircraft carrier. More good stuff here: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-PR-Japan/USA-PR-Japan-6.html The bow of HMS STORK after being damaged by a torpedo. USS Franklin war damage. USS Franklin hangar damage. A few hours after the photo above was taken the ship was landing its planes. USS franklin. Starboard horizontal stabilizer from the tail of a "Judy" on the deck of USS Kitkun Bay. The "Judy" made a run on the ship approaching from dead astern. The Yorktown remained in action on May 8 even after a 500-pound bomb slammed through the flight deck and exploded four decks down. Kamikaze damage, aircraft Saratoga. Torpedo damage on Hobart, 20 Jul 1943. http://www.mustangone.com/putnam/Putn-062.jpg Pennsylvania after being hit by torpedo plane August 12th 1945. (Large pic) *Note water hoses coming out of gun barrels. |
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That's a lot of damage. Never looked at battleships in this perspective.
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Here's something interesting I never knew about.
In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. |
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French Navy, note to self. When tied up to pier, don't start no shit with an American fast battleship maneuvering at sea.
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. View Quote A friend's uncle died in that. He said when his uncle use to come home after his shift and he would complain about the carelessness the ship loaders were. And few other thing I wouldn't repeat here. |
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The Cruel Sea (1953)
I watched the movie then read the book by Nicholas Monsarrat. Brutal. |
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. View Quote Still ruled as sabotage? |
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A friend's uncle died in that. He said when his uncle use to come home after his shift and he would complain about the carelessness the ship loaders were. And few other thing I wouldn't repeat here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. A friend's uncle died in that. He said when his uncle use to come home after his shift and he would complain about the carelessness the ship loaders were. And few other thing I wouldn't repeat here. |
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That must have been a sobering sight to see those battle damaged ships come limping back into port. I wonder if those two guys standing on the Independence lived to a ripe old age.
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Really amazing how much damage they could take and stay afloat.
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My Grandfather's ship Kearny was torpedoed in October 1941. It was a destroyer, survived the Uboat torpedo and made it for repairs at Iceland. He didn't talk much but I wished I asked more questions while he was alive.
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On most of that damage I would just look at it and say "no fucking way we can repair that" and just send the ship to the scrapyard.
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I wonder if Pearl's shallow depth in any way magnified the destruction when the torpedoes exploded by reflecting or concentrating the explosion.
Nothing against the U.S.S. Missouri, but since the West Virginia was present in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered, I've always thought they should have been forced to sign while standing on the decks of one of the ships they sank to start it all. |
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Thanks for sharing.
The destruction is beyond description and I wonder if they ever recovered the sailors' bodies, or anything of them, in some of those ships. |
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I wonder if Pearl's shallow depth in any way magnified the destruction when the torpedoes exploded by reflecting or concentrating the explosion. Nothing against the U.S.S. Missouri, but since the West Virginia was present in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered, I've always thought they should have been forced to sign while standing on the decks of one of the ships they sank to start it all. View Quote I think it was fitting that those ships got to fight and defeat IJN forces at sea in a manner in accordance with their raison d'etre (fighting other battleships in line) at Surigao Strait. |
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Quoted: Cool pics thanks. Battleships were tough to sink. Now days we have flying torpedoes. http://www.aero-news.net/images/content/military/2007/Tomahawk-test-firing-0407a.jpg View Quote Yea and the power of a modern torpedo is the size of the entire ship. http://breakingdefense.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/01/CVN-71_test_blast_1987_2-e1391203367923-1024x653.jpeg MK48 test. http://www.sdheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Mark_48_Torpedo_testing.jpg |
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Water is a hydraulic fluid. Shit don't displace very fast either cause it's heavy.
That's why the best torpedo shots are right under the keel. The contained blast breaks the ship's back and down she goes...... Haaar Haaar Haaaaar.......[pirate] ETA: Why the hell don't we have a [pirate] animation? |
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Anyone have info on the U.S.N. Electronics/Surveillance ship that took damage from pieces of a drone that had been used as a target for a different ship to shoot down, 'recently', (the last year or so)?
As I recall, there was a small puncture in an unarmored bulkhead that allowed shrapnel to take out the computers? I tried to do a search on the key words I can remember, but I'm getting nothing more recent than the Liberty. Any help? Thanks. |
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very cool pics.
I'm gonna have to consult the book "Bluejackets" to see if I can re-read and cross-ref stories to pics..... |
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. View Quote Little Boy, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima, yeilded 16KT, over 3 times that blast. |
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. View Quote Thanks for the pics. I've driven by there hundreds of times and never saw the pictures of it though I'd heard about it. |
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Thanks for the pics. I've driven by there hundreds of times and never saw the pictures of it though I'd heard about it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Thanks for the pics. I've driven by there hundreds of times and never saw the pictures of it though I'd heard about it. And some tin-foilers claim Port Chicago was the first nuclear test |
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Before causing other ship damage.
Salvo large pic. Salvo headed to North Korea. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/USS_New_Jersey_BB-62_salvo_Jan_1953.jpeg Battleship land target damage. Soldier sitting on a 16' naval shell dud. |
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Long Lance torpedoes helped finish the job on my late FIL's ship, the USS Vincennes at Savo Island in '42. It was shot all to pieces (according to Wiki it sustained at least 85 8" and 5" hits) before it sank, taking about a third of the crew with it.
He never talked about it. |
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Here is one of the ones that sticks in my mind - IJN Mikuma, savaged at Midway. Everything from the gunwhales up is a slagheap. http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/USN-CN-Midway/img/USN-CN-Midway-1.jpg View Quote I remember seeing that photo years ago and thinking it looked like something left over from the Bikini A-bomb tests. |
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http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g300000/g300232.jpg If you were in the turret and survived the massive frag, I guarantee you shit your pants on that one. View Quote It didn't matter for long. Shortly after she took a hit near her forward magazine that flashed up through the hoists and killed pretty much everyone in 1, 2 and 3 turrets. Luckily the hit also opened the hull and flooded the magazine or she would have gone ala HMS Hood. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Here's something interesting I never knew about. http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-Damage.jpg In the worst Home Front disaster of World War II, an explosion at the Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California on July 17, 1944 killed 320 men. http://www.sarahsundin.com/port-chicago-the-explosion-2/ http://www.sarahsundin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Port-Chicago-dock.jpg At 10:18 pm, two massive explosions occurred, seven seconds apart, equivalent to five kilotons of TNT, about the same magnitude as the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Still ruled as sabotage? Accident.
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Thanks for posting the one of the Minneapolis. My Dad served on her from 1942-46. I have that photo n my garage (other memorabilia in the house).
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