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Posted: 8/24/2016 10:43:25 AM EDT
I'm working on a "do it all" rifle and I had this though last night that I would really like to put a shorter barrel under a DD RIS II rail. I like the fact that it's longer than the mk18 rail but I still want to be able to put a suppressor on there someday and not have it be obnoxiously long.





I found an old thread where some guys said a 12" barrel would work and some said it wouldn't. Any idea how short I can go and still have this all work?












 
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 11:43:16 AM EDT
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Are you referring to the DD M4A1 RIS II that is 12.25" long? If so, then a 12.5" barrel would have approximately .25" sticking out. With the inside diameter of 1.15" you won't be recessing a suppressor in there so it would have to be a QD type.

What type of can will you be running?

ATW!
-Fox
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:06:19 PM EDT
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Just use the barrel length you want and cut off the end of the RIS II to where you want it for you setup. As long as you don't cut back as far as the front screw mounts it won't effect it at all.

I did this with a MK18 RIS II on a 7.5" Noveske barrel build I did 5-6 years ago.

Before rail install...



After rail install....




Finished project after cutting RIS II...




Cheers,

Dave
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:16:40 PM EDT
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Are you referring to the DD M4A1 RIS II that is 12.25" long? If so, then a 12.5" barrel would have approximately .25" sticking out. With the inside diameter of 1.15" you won't be recessing a suppressor in there so it would have to be a QD type.



What type of can will you be running?



ATW!

-Fox
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I didn't have any plan for a specific can. I like the surefire cans but I'll do whatever works.




I think for the sake of keeping my options open I would like to have enough barrel sticking out to use whatever suppressor I want later. If that means I need a 14.5" barrel, then so be it... Haha
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:20:08 PM EDT
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If you're talking about the M4A1 RIS ii then 13.25 is about the shortest you can go if you still want to use a QD suppressor mount. Here's mine.

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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:24:00 PM EDT
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If you're talking about the M4A1 RIS ii then 13.25 is about the shortest you can go if you still want to use a QD suppressor mount. Here's mine.



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I am talking about the M4A1 RIS II. 13.25 is a whole inch and a quarter shorter! Thanks for the info. I'd like to see what yours ends up looking like when you get a muzzle device on there!
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 12:26:58 PM EDT
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Here you go
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Link Posted: 8/24/2016 1:15:10 PM EDT
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I think for the sake of keeping my options open I would like to have enough barrel sticking out to use whatever suppressor I want later. If that means I need a 14.5" barrel, then so be it... Haha
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14.5" with the M4A1 RIS II is about as good as it gets and leaves you lots of options...... see top rifle.



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Cheers,

Dave
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 1:36:19 PM EDT
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14.5" with the M4A1 RIS II is about as good as it gets and leaves you lots of options...... see top rifle.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YanEZ785x1eCuwE652mCwL8bKELUeGvdHziRePcKqEW-Ayf0ZgTH6qGXBUYrs-iClKEupUoFzeTf=w1366-h768-rw-no



Cheers,



Dave
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I think for the sake of keeping my options open I would like to have enough barrel sticking out to use whatever suppressor I want later. If that means I need a 14.5" barrel, then so be it... Haha







14.5" with the M4A1 RIS II is about as good as it gets and leaves you lots of options...... see top rifle.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YanEZ785x1eCuwE652mCwL8bKELUeGvdHziRePcKqEW-Ayf0ZgTH6qGXBUYrs-iClKEupUoFzeTf=w1366-h768-rw-no



Cheers,



Dave




 



I can't see your photos Dave.
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 5:59:17 PM EDT
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I can't see your photos Dave.
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I think for the sake of keeping my options open I would like to have enough barrel sticking out to use whatever suppressor I want later. If that means I need a 14.5" barrel, then so be it... Haha



14.5" with the M4A1 RIS II is about as good as it gets and leaves you lots of options...... see top rifle.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YanEZ785x1eCuwE652mCwL8bKELUeGvdHziRePcKqEW-Ayf0ZgTH6qGXBUYrs-iClKEupUoFzeTf=w1366-h768-rw-no

Cheers,

Dave

 

I can't see your photos Dave.


Try now, sorry about that.
Link Posted: 8/24/2016 11:15:44 PM EDT
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I think for the sake of keeping my options open I would like to have enough barrel sticking out to use whatever suppressor I want later. If that means I need a 14.5" barrel, then so be it... Haha







14.5" with the M4A1 RIS II is about as good as it gets and leaves you lots of options...... see top rifle.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YanEZ785x1eCuwE652mCwL8bKELUeGvdHziRePcKqEW-Ayf0ZgTH6qGXBUYrs-iClKEupUoFzeTf=w1366-h768-rw-no



Cheers,



Dave


 



I can't see your photos Dave.





Try now, sorry about that.





 
No worries, that rifle is almost exactly how I want mine set up. I have the m4v1 rail with the fsp cutout and I'm really sick of it. I miss having the option to put the front sight away. Thanks for the info!
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