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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: People talk about how divorce is the most expensive thing that can happen to someone and it's not. It's absolutely investment mismanagement and not saving. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By macros73: Watching your posts over the past few years have helped me stay the course. I don't have your level of income or savings, and my best hope is to die early, but last year was the first time I was able to max out my IRA, 401k, and HSA. Aiming to do it again this year. Was contributing in previous years, just not to this extent. People talk about how divorce is the most expensive thing that can happen to someone and it's not. It's absolutely investment mismanagement and not saving. Wife and I joke that if we get divorced we’d both be fucked financially. In for a penny… |
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I like being a bear because it's an economic shitpost
My real money goes into index funds but being a bear online is really really fun. Also I often buy small positions in 0DTE SPY options sometimes, like $50. I always post them when I win on Webull but never post when I stop out. Basically, investing for growth is unquestionably the best strategy, but you would be surprised how much rage comes for you when you take a bearish position. On top of just shitposting, short term bear options are fantastic to pair with news. I made $800 in a day on the United Health Care scandal with $150. In my opinion the key is to be long term bullish, but have some liquid cash to take advantage of bear events, then shitpost about it |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Winner of Most FPNI 2018, 2022, 2023
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I like being a bear because it's an economic shitpost My real money goes into index funds but being a bear online is really really fun. Also I often buy small positions in 0DTE SPY options sometimes, like $50. I always post them when I win on Webull but never post when I stop out. Basically, investing for growth is unquestionably the best strategy, but you would be surprised how much rage comes for you when you take a bearish position. On top of just shitposting, short term bear options are fantastic to pair with news. I made $800 in a day on the United Health Care scandal with $150. In my opinion the key is to be long term bullish, but have some liquid cash to take advantage of bear events, then shitpost about it View Quote Bro ain't lived till he's day traded onion futures. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I like being a bear because it's an economic shitpost My real money goes into index funds but being a bear online is really really fun. Also I often buy small positions in 0DTE SPY options sometimes, like $50. I always post them when I win on Webull but never post when I stop out. Basically, investing for growth is unquestionably the best strategy, but you would be surprised how much rage comes for you when you take a bearish position. On top of just shitposting, short term bear options are fantastic to pair with news. I made $800 in a day on the United Health Care scandal with $150. In my opinion the key is to be long term bullish, but have some liquid cash to take advantage of bear events, then shitpost about it View Quote I miss free money. |
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futures looking green for Thursday |
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I re-read this whole thread this morning while enjoying my coffee. Page 1 is my favorite.
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: I re-read this whole thread this morning while enjoying my coffee. Page 1 is my favorite. View Quote The dooomerism here on arfcom is an interesting phenomenon. I don't think I've ever read an actual "the market is crashing, the sky is falling, we're all gonna be eating rats soon" thread that actually had said events come to pass. But I HAVE read lots of threads where people "went to cash" and "got their money out of the market" when the markets were low, and ended up missing out on crazy good returns soon afterwards. |
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New record highs on all three indexes.
Run bull. Run. |
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Friendly reminder to not finger fuck your shit. Emotional and short term investing will kill your wealth building.
Tortoise vs hare. The turtle wins. The bull always wins. I can’t understand how people can’t think beyond the present. When history keeps smacking their face |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Originally Posted By mochaTX: Value purchased tech like INTC which has gone from $23 to $40+. MSFT and such. Shorting NVDA. Like I said waiting until 1Q24. View Quote Guessing this is why OP hasn't been back. Mentioned in November and posted in December. And I'm not celebrating someone losing money. |
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I can't think of a way to bear that doesn't involve risk. Inverse funds decay, puts expire, and shorting leaves you exposed.
However it is nice to make some money on down trends. Taking a few hundred or a thousand bucks short term bear is awesome. Not only do you make money, but you make money during down trends. Furthermore, taking a small amount to actively trade let's you have some fun and not bother your growth funds. Just buying the dips is boring and gay. Your automatic investments and 401k contributions already do that. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Winner of Most FPNI 2018, 2022, 2023
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I can't think of a way to bear that doesn't involve risk. Inverse funds decay, puts expire, and shorting leaves you exposed. However it is nice to make some money on down trends. Taking a few hundred or a thousand bucks short term bear is awesome. Not only do you make money, but you make money during down trends. Furthermore, taking a small amount to actively trade let's you have some fun and not bother your growth funds. Just buying the dips is boring and gay. Your automatic investments and 401k contributions already do that. View Quote Maxing out the equity on your house to buy stock is pretty lit. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Guessing this is why OP hasn't been back. Mentioned in November and posted in December. And I'm not celebrating someone losing money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Originally Posted By mochaTX: Value purchased tech like INTC which has gone from $23 to $40+. MSFT and such. Shorting NVDA. Like I said waiting until 1Q24. Guessing this is why OP hasn't been back. Mentioned in November and posted in December. And I'm not celebrating someone losing money. Damn. That’s the biggest burn ever. Not only did op fail on sp. he shorted nvidia. That doomer is broke. Broke ass doomer. |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I can't think of a way to bear that doesn't involve risk. Inverse funds decay, puts expire, and shorting leaves you exposed. However it is nice to make some money on down trends. Taking a few hundred or a thousand bucks short term bear is awesome. Not only do you make money, but you make money during down trends. Furthermore, taking a small amount to actively trade let's you have some fun and not bother your growth funds. Just buying the dips is boring and gay. Your automatic investments and 401k contributions already do that. View Quote When your shit swings 100k in a month you’ll change. |
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Originally Posted By spidey07: Damn. That’s the biggest burn ever. Not only did op fail on sp. he shorted nvidia. That doomer is broke. Broke ass doomer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Originally Posted By mochaTX: Value purchased tech like INTC which has gone from $23 to $40+. MSFT and such. Shorting NVDA. Like I said waiting until 1Q24. Guessing this is why OP hasn't been back. Mentioned in November and posted in December. And I'm not celebrating someone losing money. Damn. That’s the biggest burn ever. Not only did op fail on sp. he shorted nvidia. That doomer is broke. Broke ass doomer. I'm desperately trying to find a hilarious article about how Warren Buffet's investment style is gay. You will all laugh your ass off. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Maxing out the equity on your house to buy stock is pretty lit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I can't think of a way to bear that doesn't involve risk. Inverse funds decay, puts expire, and shorting leaves you exposed. However it is nice to make some money on down trends. Taking a few hundred or a thousand bucks short term bear is awesome. Not only do you make money, but you make money during down trends. Furthermore, taking a small amount to actively trade let's you have some fun and not bother your growth funds. Just buying the dips is boring and gay. Your automatic investments and 401k contributions already do that. Maxing out the equity on your house to buy stock is pretty lit. Did that in 2020, 3%. My own money printer. |
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Long have I thought about Berkshire’s conservative approach to investing, and the more I think about the more gay I realize it is. I mean come on, all Buffett and Munger do is throw a few billions at an already established money printing company, and wait like 35 years for a 20% return and sell.
Where is the fun in that? Spoiler: there is none, If I had that many billions all I would do is throw a couple big ones at Apple and forget about it too. A literal 5 year old, or average WallStreetBets user post GameStop could do that shit with ease, it’s the stock market equivalent of sitting in a corner with a shotgun and not moving in Call of Duty. Buffett maybe you should grow a pair and maybe I don’t know throw 50% of all of your funds available cash into OTM $ARKK options expiring at the end of this week? I wouldn’t even care if you bought puts just to show me you’re not the coward I think you are, showing me you can adapt to the times. We live in times where there are hedge funds who exclusively trade options and you still trade like it’s the 1880s when you were a younger twenty year old investor trying to save some extra cash. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Winner of Most FPNI 2018, 2022, 2023
KS, USA
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Long have I thought about Berkshire’s conservative approach to investing, and the more I think about the more gay I realize it is. I mean come on, all Buffett and Munger do is throw a few billions at an already established money printing company, and wait like 35 years for a 20% return and sell. Where is the fun in that? Spoiler: there is none, If I had that many billions all I would do is throw a couple big ones at Apple and forget about it too. A literal 5 year old, or average WallStreetBets user post GameStop could do that shit with ease, it’s the stock market equivalent of sitting in a corner with a shotgun and not moving in Call of Duty. Buffett maybe you should grow a pair and maybe I don’t know throw 50% of all of your funds available cash into OTM $ARKK options expiring at the end of this week? I wouldn’t even care if you bought puts just to show me you’re not the coward I think you are, showing me you can adapt to the times. We live in times where there are hedge funds who exclusively trade options and you still trade like it’s the 1880s when you were a younger twenty year old investor trying to save some extra cash. View Quote I can't give my opinion on Warren Buffett style investing or ARKK without getting into trouble with Finra. |
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: I can't give my opinion on Warren Buffett style investing or ARKK without getting into trouble with Finra. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Long have I thought about Berkshire’s conservative approach to investing, and the more I think about the more gay I realize it is. I mean come on, all Buffett and Munger do is throw a few billions at an already established money printing company, and wait like 35 years for a 20% return and sell. Where is the fun in that? Spoiler: there is none, If I had that many billions all I would do is throw a couple big ones at Apple and forget about it too. A literal 5 year old, or average WallStreetBets user post GameStop could do that shit with ease, it’s the stock market equivalent of sitting in a corner with a shotgun and not moving in Call of Duty. Buffett maybe you should grow a pair and maybe I don’t know throw 50% of all of your funds available cash into OTM $ARKK options expiring at the end of this week? I wouldn’t even care if you bought puts just to show me you’re not the coward I think you are, showing me you can adapt to the times. We live in times where there are hedge funds who exclusively trade options and you still trade like it’s the 1880s when you were a younger twenty year old investor trying to save some extra cash. I can't give my opinion on Warren Buffett style investing or ARKK without getting into trouble with Finra. THE GOVERNMENT STRIKES AGAIN HOW DO I BUY PUTS ON THE GOVERNMENT BEING SMART |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Originally Posted By SparticleBrane: ... But I HAVE read lots of threads where people "went to cash" and "got their money out of the market" when the markets were low, and ended up missing out on crazy good returns soon afterwards. View Quote and the crazy thing is -- it's not an 'all or nothing' proposition no one says you have to be 100% equities -- in fact for most people -- that's probably not smart but if you DO feel prone to DOOM -- just dial back some %. instead of 90/10 or 80/20 or whatever -- go 50/50 or some conservative percentage. or pick an amount based on spending patterns : like i want three years cash -- so $225K in cash / low risk bonds. whatever... but yeah -- to go 'all cashed out' and miss the 30% run-up... ouch. those big gains are tough to make up. |
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073: and the crazy thing is -- it's not an 'all or nothing' proposition no one says you have to be 100% equities -- in fact for most people -- that's probably not smart but if you DO feel prone to DOOM -- just dial back some %. instead of 90/10 or 80/20 or whatever -- go 50/50 or some conservative percentage. or pick an amount based on spending patterns : like i want three years cash -- so $225K in cash / low risk bonds. whatever... but yeah -- to go 'all cashed out' and miss the 30% run-up... ouch. those big gains are tough to make up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By SparticleBrane: ... But I HAVE read lots of threads where people "went to cash" and "got their money out of the market" when the markets were low, and ended up missing out on crazy good returns soon afterwards. and the crazy thing is -- it's not an 'all or nothing' proposition no one says you have to be 100% equities -- in fact for most people -- that's probably not smart but if you DO feel prone to DOOM -- just dial back some %. instead of 90/10 or 80/20 or whatever -- go 50/50 or some conservative percentage. or pick an amount based on spending patterns : like i want three years cash -- so $225K in cash / low risk bonds. whatever... but yeah -- to go 'all cashed out' and miss the 30% run-up... ouch. those big gains are tough to make up. Full disclosure. I retire in 3 years. Still 100% us stonks. Every account. I’m still in growth mode. And the growth has been good. When I need the income I’ll dial back a bit, the growth will feed the cap/income products. Ain’t scared. Shit can swing 100 in a month. Plus or minus. Ain’t scared. Just keep buying. |
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The S&P 500 is up 5 months straight — and history favors momentum
Since 1950, there have been 30 five-month streaks in the S&P 500, including the most recent one, along with another streak that ended last July. In all but two of the prior 28 cases, the S&P 500 was higher 12 months later, with an average gain of 12.5% and a 93% win rate. View Quote |
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There is some humor in the fact that the index is up about 1000 (roughly 1/5 growth) from 5 months ago when this thread started... just sayin... wonder if anyone actually cashed out and is really yelling at clouds now?
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The doomers are at BI:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-crash-outlook-smart-money-sp500-bubble-correction-recession-2024-3 Go to cash today and be ready for the 40% decline. |
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Its weird. I need these white collar fools to not go broke, but it’s absolutely crazy right now. Conspiratorially, is it engineered? I remember all us construction guys were just blindly hopp’n and a skipp’n in 2006 when i started to hear assholes say something’s coming, better prepare. Ignored them, cashed checks and went on. Doomers. Heck with them. Problem is now all those smart white collar geniuses are hopp’n and a skipp’n and not at the wheel to tell us to prepare. Wake up, i want you to keep your money so i can take some of it…
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Originally Posted By boolzi: Its weird. I need these white collar fools to not go broke, but it’s absolutely crazy right now. Conspiratorially, is it engineered? I remember all us construction guys were just blindly hopp’n and a skipp’n in 2006 when i started to hear assholes say something’s coming, better prepare. Ignored them, cashed checks and went on. Doomers. Heck with them. Problem is now all those smart white collar geniuses are hopp’n and a skipp’n and not at the wheel to tell us to prepare. Wake up, i want you to keep your money so i can take some of it… View Quote As posted this is following history to a damn tee. The emotional money makes the history/logic money rich. Pick a side. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: Its weird. I need these white collar fools to not go broke, but it’s absolutely crazy right now. Conspiratorially, is it engineered? I remember all us construction guys were just blindly hopp’n and a skipp’n in 2006 when i started to hear assholes say something’s coming, better prepare. Ignored them, cashed checks and went on. Doomers. Heck with them. Problem is now all those smart white collar geniuses are hopp’n and a skipp’n and not at the wheel to tell us to prepare. Wake up, i want you to keep your money so i can take some of it… View Quote The issue really is IF you can time it. I am a huge fan of dumping extra money in after a crash, COVID was the last great one. Tons of money to be made buying low. Everyone knows being a bear isn't a long term strategy. Bears are in reality, greedier bulls. They are trying to profit off both sides of market movement. I dabble in bearishness. Made some decent money on United Healthcare puts. But to time an entire market movement? No way. Or to put significant money on a downward trend? No way. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater:
You bought ammo with jibber jabber on the label and are surprised it was corrosive? Knight of Wonder |
Originally Posted By boolzi: Its weird. I need these white collar fools to not go broke, but it’s absolutely crazy right now. Conspiratorially, is it engineered? I remember all us construction guys were just blindly hopp’n and a skipp’n in 2006 when i started to hear assholes say something’s coming, better prepare. Ignored them, cashed checks and went on. Doomers. Heck with them. Problem is now all those smart white collar geniuses are hopp’n and a skipp’n and not at the wheel to tell us to prepare. Wake up, i want you to keep your money so i can take some of it… View Quote Construction guys ignored the warning and didn't prepare, but the other guys are the fools and assholes? lol |
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Originally Posted By Off-the-Grid: Construction guys ignored the warning and didn't prepare, but the other guys are the fools and assholes? lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Off-the-Grid: Originally Posted By boolzi: Its weird. I need these white collar fools to not go broke, but it’s absolutely crazy right now. Conspiratorially, is it engineered? I remember all us construction guys were just blindly hopp’n and a skipp’n in 2006 when i started to hear assholes say something’s coming, better prepare. Ignored them, cashed checks and went on. Doomers. Heck with them. Problem is now all those smart white collar geniuses are hopp’n and a skipp’n and not at the wheel to tell us to prepare. Wake up, i want you to keep your money so i can take some of it… Construction guys ignored the warning and didn't prepare, but the other guys are the fools and assholes? lol Is asshole derogatory? Sometimes my English gets superinflated. |
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But to explain, to us driving nails with our foreheads, we looked at them as assholes at the time, meaning we were doing well in our market and they were calling doom. Like what you talki’n bout man…dont try to shit in our Wheaties…asshole was the term then, now, its doomer.
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never underestimate the stupidity of other people
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: The issue really is IF you can time it. I am a huge fan of dumping extra money in after a crash, COVID was the last great one. Tons of money to be made buying low. Everyone knows being a bear isn't a long term strategy. Bears are in reality, greedier bulls. They are trying to profit off both sides of market movement. I dabble in bearishness. Made some decent money on United Healthcare puts. But to time an entire market movement? No way. Or to put significant money on a downward trend? No way. View Quote the issue with timing the market is that you have to be right twice. My dad pulled out of almost all stocks right before covid. Looked like a genius. Except he never got back in. Granted he's retired and very risk averse, and while he did preserve his capital he would have been way better off just leaving it in and riding the lightning. I read something I wish I saved, that if you account for being out of the market on like it's 20 best days, which were often during downturns, your overall return was like 1000% worse than just leaving it in. besides, pulling out is never as fun as leaving it in |
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Fed projections point to imminent recession.
https://www.businessinsider.com/recession-feds-rate-cut-forecast-point-economic-downturn-david-rosenberg-2024-3 |
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Feb & March were good months to be in index funds.
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Life member of CRPA. FPC contributor.
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Originally Posted By OregonShooter: Fed projections point to imminent recession. https://www.businessinsider.com/recession-feds-rate-cut-forecast-point-economic-downturn-david-rosenberg-2024-3 View Quote I thought there were 3 raises coming this year? That’s crazy. They just need to get the markets to calm down, dropping would seem to give them crack. |
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Stonks are on sale 1% off today!
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Originally Posted By boolzi: I thought there were 3 raises coming this year? That’s crazy. They just need to get the markets to calm down, dropping would seem to give them crack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By OregonShooter: Fed projections point to imminent recession. https://www.businessinsider.com/recession-feds-rate-cut-forecast-point-economic-downturn-david-rosenberg-2024-3 I thought there were 3 raises coming this year? That’s crazy. They just need to get the markets to calm down, dropping would seem to give them crack. Yields up again. The realization of inflation looks to be taking off again is sinking in. |
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What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
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What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
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Stonks are on sale again today.
My precious NVDA is down 10%. Might buy some more soon... |
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Become prompt critical.
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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.. |
Originally Posted By JustinU235: Yeah what's happening? Meta is down over 4%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By SparticleBrane: Stonks are on sale again today. My precious NVDA is down 10%. Might buy some more soon... Yeah what's happening? Meta is down over 4%. Fedspeak that inflation is sticky. Higher for longer.
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What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: Yeah what's happening? Meta is down over 4%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By SparticleBrane: Stonks are on sale again today. My precious NVDA is down 10%. Might buy some more soon... Yeah what's happening? Meta is down over 4%. Reality is slowly emerging? |
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If the Fed was smart they would have raised rates months ago.
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The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
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Become prompt critical.
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Markets got jumpy with Middle East turmoil mostly I think. Now we're just left with the equivalent of the varsity sprinter getting an a pissing match with the low IQ kid that likes to cause shit.
It needed to pump the brakes. Give it a few weeks and it'll be bull run again. I have noticed all the people my parents age seem to be really concerned about what's happening over there. Seems like all of the Gen Xers and millennials hang around with. Don't seem to give a shit about it. |
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