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| We are a distributor for Century Arms and this is what they said the Due to a ATF ruling the original WASR series had take off barrels installed and this is no longer allowed . The WASR rifles will now have NEW Romanian barrels installed on the rifles and then imported they are not going to have US barrels . That is why you are going to see the price increase on the WASR series of rifles. We hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about this product line . |
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Originally Posted By Indiansprings:
But are they going to be Chrome lined? Up 'til now every Romanian AK barrel has been chrome lined. If the new barrels weren't, the Romanians would have to retool. Based on that, I'd speculate the new barrels will be chrome lined. |
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Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
We are a distributor for Century Arms and this is what they said the Due to a ATF ruling the original WASR series had take off barrels installed and this is no longer allowed . The WASR rifles will now have NEW Romanian barrels installed on the rifles and then imported they are not going to have US barrels . That is why you are going to see the price increase on the WASR series of rifles. We hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about this product line . This isn't so bad. Still sucks that they're gonna cost more though. A .30 caliber barrel is a .30 caliber barrel. Who cares when it was made? ATF has way too much time on their hands. |
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Originally Posted By Justin-Kase:
Originally Posted By tstorm31:
I looked on AIM's website and didnt see this anywhere. Sounds to me like yet another internet rumor! Which means:  The only BS is.....^ The notice was in the Nov 11th AIM email advertisement, I'll forward you a copy if it will make you happy. You might also have noticed the owner of AIM Surplus corroborated the story on page 1. 
Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
these barrels fell into the machine gun barrel ban, they can no longer use Romanian barrels, they will now use a CHROME lined US made barrel, and will go up about 6%, we learned this in July, Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
We are a distributor for Century Arms and this is what they said the Due to a ATF ruling the original WASR series had take off barrels installed and this is no longer allowed . The WASR rifles will now have NEW Romanian barrels installed on the rifles and then imported they are not going to have US barrels . That is why you are going to see the price increase on the WASR series of rifles. We hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about this product line . Justin-Kase, Appears that you are the one who is full of BS. Now we have another vendor (A-F) telling a story that makes more sense. Those of us that have seen internet rumors over the years have learned that the first story doesn't always seem to hold true. Remember, Classic Arms told us a year or so ago that WASRs were no longer being imported, but they are available in quantities larger than ever before. |
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Originally Posted By Mak: Originally Posted By Justin-Kase: Originally Posted By tstorm31: I looked on AIM's website and didnt see this anywhere. Sounds to me like yet another internet rumor! Which means: The only BS is.....^ The notice was in the Nov 11th AIM email advertisement, I'll forward you a copy if it will make you happy. You might also have noticed the owner of AIM Surplus corroborated the story on page 1. Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim: these barrels fell into the machine gun barrel ban, they can no longer use Romanian barrels, they will now use a CHROME lined US made barrel, and will go up about 6%, we learned this in July, Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We are a distributor for Century Arms and this is what they said the Due to a ATF ruling the original WASR series had take off barrels installed and this is no longer allowed . The WASR rifles will now have NEW Romanian barrels installed on the rifles and then imported they are not going to have US barrels . That is why you are going to see the price increase on the WASR series of rifles. We hope this helps clear up some of the confusion about this product line . Justin-Kase, Appears that you are the one who is full of BS. Now we have another vendor (A-F) telling a story that makes more sense. Those of us that have seen internet rumors over the years have learned that the first story doesn't always seem to hold true. Remember, Classic Arms told us a year or so ago that WASRs were no longer being imported, but they are available in quantities larger than ever before. How exactly my post BS? It is at best a mis-communication on where the NEW barrels are being made. One vendor says US made one says NEW Romanians. You think it's possible both were relating information as told to them? The ATF disallowed surplus barrels. - Sounds like it's a FACT. The ATF will allow new Romanian barrels for WASR's - Sounds like it might be. The internet rumor BS flag is and was the only BS here, two respected industry partners have corroborated there is a change in the WASR barrel coming. Don't be that guy, comprehend before attacking and you'll live a much happier life. |
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Originally Posted By randeeak47:
my head hurts.................whats the big deal w/ u.s. made barrels, dont the u.s. made yugo guns have have u.s. made barrels my rpk does and it shoot great...., i could realy care less if they are cromed lined or not... but i live in az!!! I want foreign made, chrome-lined. A guy posted that the barrel on his Yugo M72 was showing signs of throat erosion after 200 rounds. And the 5.45 US barrels are still a crapshoot at this point (Keyholing, the rifling wearing down to smoothbore, incorrect bore diameter) |
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Originally Posted By Justin-Kase:
The internet rumor BS flag is and was the only BS here, two respected industry partners have corroborated there is a change in the WASR barrel coming. One vendor stated they would have US barrels, one vendor stated they would have Romanian manufactured barrels. Obviously, both stories can't be correct so one is obviously BS. You'll have to wait to find out which one is true and which one is a BS rumor. tstorm31 is correct in calling BS until actual verification as to which is true. |
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Originally Posted By Mak: Originally Posted By Justin-Kase: The internet rumor BS flag is and was the only BS here, two respected industry partners have corroborated there is a change in the WASR barrel coming. tstorm31 is correct in calling BS until actual verification as to which is true. We don't even agree on that, your buddy called BS because he couldn't find it on AIMs website. Reading comprehension please. |
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Originally Posted By Mak: Obviously, the ATF could have said no imported barrels in July when Bryan got his information and later said OK to NEW "sporting barrels." One vendor stated they would have US barrels, one vendor stated they would have Romanian manufactured barrels. Obviously, both stories can't be correct so one is obviously BS. You'll have to wait to find out which one is true and which one is a BS rumor. If so it's a change of fact not BS, and BTW just so you know the difference my above statement is speculation not BS. |
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Originally Posted By Justin-Kase:
Originally Posted By Mak:
Obviously, the ATF could have said no imported barrels in July when Bryan got his information and later said OK to NEW "sporting barrels."
One vendor stated they would have US barrels, one vendor stated they would have Romanian manufactured barrels. Obviously, both stories can't be correct so one is obviously BS. You'll have to wait to find out which one is true and which one is a BS rumor. If so it's a change of fact not BS, and BTW just so you know the difference my above statement is speculation not BS. BATFE reversing themselves and re-interpreting their own rulings. Yeah, sounds about right. |
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Originally Posted By Justin-Kase:
Originally Posted By Mak:
Obviously, the ATF could have said no imported barrels in July when Bryan got his information and later said OK to NEW "sporting barrels."
One vendor stated they would have US barrels, one vendor stated they would have Romanian manufactured barrels. Obviously, both stories can't be correct so one is obviously BS. You'll have to wait to find out which one is true and which one is a BS rumor. If so it's a change of fact not BS, and BTW just so you know the difference my above statement is speculation not BS. I believe there has been the ability to import rifles with sporting barrels since the barrel ban went into effect some years ago. If you have evidence of a recent change it should be available for posting from the BATF website. |
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Originally Posted By Mak: Originally Posted By Justin-Kase: Originally Posted By Mak: Obviously, the ATF could have said no imported barrels in July when Bryan got his information and later said OK to NEW "sporting barrels." One vendor stated they would have US barrels, one vendor stated they would have Romanian manufactured barrels. Obviously, both stories can't be correct so one is obviously BS. You'll have to wait to find out which one is true and which one is a BS rumor. If so it's a change of fact not BS, and BTW just so you know the difference my above statement is speculation not BS. I believe there has been the ability to import rifles with sporting barrels since the barrel ban went into effect some years ago. If you have evidence of a recent change it should be available for posting from the BATF website. I never claimed otherwise; reading comprehension please. |
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wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start.....
My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! |
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Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start..... My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start..... My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start..... My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start..... My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! Originally Posted By Bryan_Aim:
wow, there are sooooo many quotes and BS flags I don't know where to start..... My contact told me US barrels, If Romanian barrels is the case then great, that would be great news! I Hope for new Romanian barrels, so I hope this is the correct info! BTW.....just talked to my normal Century rep, they will be Romanian barrels, Chrome lined, so this info is correct as of RIGHT NOW |
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| Bryan and the staff @ Aim are a top notch firm !! We know that when talking with a importer rep they often do not not always know the whole story or get it right the first time so Aim just got some inital wrong intel . On a few occasions we have known more about a new product than the sales rep did . The good news is these will be New imported chrome lined bbls the ATF regs do not allow the importation of original Military rifle take off or surplus barrels . |
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Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
Bryan and the staff @ Aim are a top notch firm !! We know that when talking with a importer rep they often do not not always know the whole story or get it right the first time so Aim just got some inital wrong intel . On a few occasions we have known more about a new product than the sales rep did . The good news is these will be New imported chrome lined bbls the ATF regs do not allow the importation of original Military rifle take off or surplus barrels . So in other words this wont really change a thing. Instead of new/like new .mil barrels that were originally on the rifles there will now be brand new .milspec (basically) barrels on them and of course the cost will be passed on to the end user. By the way, it's nice to see you compliment a competitor. You (Atlantic) and Aim both have outstanding reps on this board and things like this show why. Kudos. |
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| Yes they will be new Romanian mil spec chrome lined barrels the others were Military surplus take offs and banned for use on anymore Century Imports . The price will probably go up $25 - $35 dollars per rifle we have a few pallets of AK's on order now and will check them out as soon as they arrive . |
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Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
Yes they will be new Romanian mil spec chrome lined barrels the others were Military surplus take offs and banned for use on anymore Century Imports . The price will probably go up $25 - $35 dollars per rifle we have a few pallets of AK's on order now and will check them out as soon as they arrive . Glad to see you here! 
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Ok! Let me clarify why I raised the BS flag. I did it because, at the time i did it, I could not verify this story anywhere else on the net. I didnt mean any disrespect towards AIM or Atlantic Firearns. I have purchased from both, and both are top-notch companies. At the time I first read this, it had all the makings of another wild internet rumor ( "I heard from so-and-so that (fill in the blank)!!) . Anyways, all it turned out to be was some minor mis-information, and another twisted rumor was stopped in its tracks.
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By the way, it's nice to see you compliment a competitor. You (Atlantic) and Aim both have outstanding reps on this board and things like this show why. Kudos.
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Originally Posted By AKsRule: Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion: Originally Posted By AKsRule:  Eventually some U.S. mfg will be making AK barrels Superior to the originals. Doubt it. The AK market isn't big enough to invest in cold hammer forging equipment.  As an Example - Daniel Defense. Below is one of their products , they could easily make a similar barrel for AKs if they saw market potential. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/AKsrule/Hammer.jpg I as well as many others would buy one or three ;) |
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While I bought a DD AR for partially the reason of a CHF Barrel, I would ask if anyone has seen an ACCURACY drop in an AK with a US barrel? (Yugos have them from Century, etc.)?
What is the composition of the "NEW" Romanian barrels? CHF? I doubt that CHF makes a difference anyone shooting semi will see. |
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Originally Posted By briang2ad:
While I bought a DD AR for partially the reason of a CHF Barrel, I would ask if anyone has seen an ACCURACY drop in an AK with a US barrel? (Yugos have them from Century, etc.)? What is the composition of the "NEW" Romanian barrels? CHF? I doubt that CHF makes a difference anyone shooting semi will see. The Century GP1975 that I have shoots right behind my Arsenal SGL20. The Green Mountain barrel as of right now is great and accurate. The only reason I went after the Arsenal was the chrome lined barrel. |
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Originally Posted By engineer2001:
Did this actually come to pass? Are WASR barrels made in the US now? Sorry, I fell off the planet for a while and just came back and haven't heard yet. They are new production Romanian barrels. No more surplus barrels can be used. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrandIllusion:
They are new production Romanian barrels. No more surplus barrels can be used. Ok, cool. I didn't know if the old news (new, US bbls) or the slightly less old news (new, Romanian bbls) was what actually came to pass. LOL Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
So what is more desirable, the old WASRs or the new ones with the new U.S. made barrels? Reading comprehensoin is fundamental.
The barrels are NOT US made. The barrel, like the rest of the rifle (before US compliance parts are added) is made in Romania. The barrel is new production. |
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Originally Posted By POLYTHENEPAM:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
So what is more desirable, the old WASRs or the new ones with the new U.S. made barrels? Reading comprehensoin is fundamental.
The barrels are NOT US made. The barrel, like the rest of the rifle (before US compliance parts are added) is made in Romania. The barrel is new production. This is not GD, please leave the BS there please. My question still has not been answered (OLD WASR OR NEW WASR). I could care less if the barrel was made by fire breathing ant eaters. And watch out on your high horse, you spelled comprehension wrong. So both of us are still lowly humans who can make mistakes. 
I'll omit U.S. just for you. |
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Originally Posted By forrest0872:
more stupidness from the atf and/or state dept. there is absolutly no point whatsoever but to restrict the citizens from firearms / parts. total B.S. Agreed. |
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Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Originally Posted By POLYTHENEPAM:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
So what is more desirable, the old WASRs or the new ones with the new U.S. made barrels? Reading comprehensoin is fundamental.
The barrels are NOT US made. The barrel, like the rest of the rifle (before US compliance parts are added) is made in Romania. The barrel is new production. This is not GD, please leave the BS there please. My question still has not been answered (OLD WASR OR NEW WASR). I could care less if the barrel was made by fire breathing ant eaters. And watch out on your high horse, you spelled comprehension wrong. So both of us are still lowly humans who can make mistakes.
I'll omit U.S. just for you. I don't see BS. You asked about US-barreled WASRs when clearly earlier in the thread it is mentioned that they're merely new-build Romy pieces. He was just pointing out your original error, perfectly understandable as there are cases of people not paying attention to earlier posts before spouting off. And th new barrels will still be chrome lined and forged on the same machinery as before. I predict no appreciable difference in accuracy or barrel durability. |
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Originally Posted By nightshade1:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Originally Posted By POLYTHENEPAM:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
So what is more desirable, the old WASRs or the new ones with the new U.S. made barrels? Reading comprehensoin is fundamental.
The barrels are NOT US made. The barrel, like the rest of the rifle (before US compliance parts are added) is made in Romania. The barrel is new production. This is not GD, please leave the BS there please. My question still has not been answered (OLD WASR OR NEW WASR). I could care less if the barrel was made by fire breathing ant eaters. And watch out on your high horse, you spelled comprehension wrong. So both of us are still lowly humans who can make mistakes.
I'll omit U.S. just for you. I don't see BS. You asked about US-barreled WASRs when clearly earlier in the thread it is mentioned that they're merely new-build Romy pieces. He was just pointing out your original error, perfectly understandable as there are cases of people not paying attention to earlier posts before spouting off. And th new barrels will still be chrome lined and forged on the same machinery as before. I predict no appreciable difference in accuracy or barrel durability. He could have been more polite about it. Not my fault he is pissed over something so stupid. AR15.com is getting a bit hostile these days. Nothing like it use to be. Anyway, thank you for clearing that up in the manner you did. There was much confusion between what Aim said and Atlantic said early on. There are no perfect people so "He who is without sin cast the first stone", you get me? I will admit, I am a dumb ass. As I get older this shit happens. 
Back to topic. So what you are saying is there will be no plus to either the old or new. Got it. Only that is price will now go up. I guess I will get myself another Saiga then.
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Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
And watch out on your high horse, you spelled comprehension wrong. So both of us are still lowly humans who can make mistakes. [img] If I spent more time practicing my typing and less time trying to enlightening those who can't read posts which clearly answer their questions, I'd make less TYPING (not spelling) mistakes. |
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Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
He could have been more polite about it. Not my fault he is pissed over something so stupid. My function is to answer questions correctly, if not politely enough for some people's delicate sensibilities. 
And I'm not unhappy.  I didn't embarass myself by asking a question which had already been answered.
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Originally Posted By POLYTHENEPAM:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
He could have been more polite about it. Not my fault he is pissed over something so stupid. My function is to answer questions correctly, if not politely enough for some people's delicate sensibilities.
And I'm not unhappy. I didn't embarass myself by asking a question which had already been answered.At least I was man enough to admit I was wrong. |
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Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
Originally Posted By POLYTHENEPAM:
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:
He could have been more polite about it. Not my fault he is pissed over something so stupid. My function is to answer questions correctly, if not politely enough for some people's delicate sensibilities.
And I'm not unhappy. I didn't embarass myself by asking a question which had already been answered.At least I was man enough to admit I was wrong. Had I been wrong, I'd have admitted so. But I wasn't. Your question was answered before you asked it. I pointed that out. Get over it. |
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