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Digging the last two fixed stock builds. Good job. @Texsylvanian Looks like we just needed your bump to top to increase the traffic. Thanks. Who's got something really unique out there? Bring on the rail mod pics! View Quote |
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On a different note, I intend to nerd out on POU and manual of arms considerations at some point, in order to demonstrate why I build my rifles the way I do. I am always very interested to hear others thoughts on those subjects as well.
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Digging the last two fixed stock builds. Good job. @Texsylvanian Looks like we just needed your bump to top to increase the traffic. Thanks. Who's got something really unique out there? Bring on the rail mod pics! View Quote |
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On a different note, I intend to nerd out on POU and manual of arms considerations at some point, in order to demonstrate why I build my rifles the way I do. I am always very interested to hear others thoughts on those subjects as well. View Quote |
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I'm working on something. When I get my barrel work done, I'll post up some pics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Digging the last two fixed stock builds. Good job. @Texsylvanian Looks like we just needed your bump to top to increase the traffic. Thanks. Who's got something really unique out there? Bring on the rail mod pics! |
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On a different note, I intend to nerd out on POU and manual of arms considerations at some point, in order to demonstrate why I build my rifles the way I do. I am always very interested to hear others thoughts on those subjects as well. View Quote |
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Also interested in your perpective. FSB builds work just as good for me as my flip builds... just as long as the forend is midlength or longer (Sasquatch arms). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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On a different note, I intend to nerd out on POU and manual of arms considerations at some point, in order to demonstrate why I build my rifles the way I do. I am always very interested to hear others thoughts on those subjects as well. There are lots of different ways to skin a cat; one's manual of arms preferences usually come about due to some combination of formal training, references, first-hand experience and ongoing adaptation driven by requirements (real or perceived). Manual of arms drives how a rifle gets set-up and what goes on it. Adavances in technology, new experiences and new requirements (real or perceived) lead to new things being put onto a rifle, which in turn affects one's manual of arms. It has been a cycle of ongoing change and I have been riding it for ten years. In that time I have tried a cornucopia of devices and techniques which, for me, have boiled down to the following "requirements" (real or perceived): (1) Carbine. 16" or 14.5" (2) Variable power optic. 1-something, durable, low-light illumination and a bold daytime reticle (3) Iron sights. However, not for the reason many keep iron sights on a rifle. I want iron sights on a rifle because I enjoy shooting them, I am good with them and I see them as a perishable skill that is worth knowing. For example, should I one day find myself holding a rifle with iron sights in a bad situation, I feel confident that I can use that rifle effectively because I shoot the sights often. The same cannot necessarily be said about a person who shoots optics exclusively. I even keep fixed iron sights on my rifle at work because I am so comfortable with them (see next item on this list for a caveat). Now, on my own rifles I do use optics as previously indicated. I keep a larue LT103 w/CSAT aperture on the rifle under the rail. My "perceived" reason for this is as a backup iron sight. My "real" reason for this is for fun, because I don't really think I need backup iron sights. Optics are rugged/reliable these days and very unlikely to fail. I keep the LT103 on the rifle because I actually do most of my shooting with it. At the end of a range session, it goes back under the rifle and I confirm zero with the optic again. This probably seems silly to a lot of people but it satisfies my needs, both real and perceived, perfectly. Finally, I believe in a pinned, free floated front sight base. This is opposed to one that is bolted onto a FF handgaurd and therefore moves independently of the barrel. (4) Weapon light. A must have on a defensive carbine for more reasons than I care to elaborate here. Also, ultra important for a gun with iron sights. (5) FSP cutout rail. I don't just have them because they are sexy. I have them because my hand placement has some slight overlap with the gas block. Furthermore I like keeping the weapon light forward to reduce shadow. Finally, hot barrels and barricades. ETA (6) Sealed-bottom muzzle device. Because prone dust signatures in the day are as dangerous as flash at night. There's more, expecially when it comes to my shooting positions and how this set-up nests with them for me. However that is for another time, with pictures. |
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What is a pinned, free floated front sight base? View Quote |
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http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/xprocharged/IMG_20150711_204819.jpg That particular fixed FSB BCM is my wife's, which she used to shoot all the time. She has since moved on to a 10.5 PSA CHF upper that she now uses for her HD gun. I also have a standard 6920 that I'm getting ready to have the barrel chopped and will probably go with a C4 carbine cutout rail, but that's gonna be down the road a little. View Quote Well done. |
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Awww FSB thread!! Always wanted one and an OTAL just 'cuz... Finally came to just a couple months ago! http://i.imgur.com/lIgIf4G.jpg 14.5" pinned with 9" DD rail. View Quote |
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My A4-ish Modern A1 build:
Centurion C4 12" rail Brownells 20" 1/12 A1-type blemish barrel A1 flash hider Slickside upper Chrome bolt carrier (no fwd assist serrations) A1 stock w/ A2 buttplate A1 grip Range Tool lower w/ PSA LPK Attached File Attached File (Ejection port cover spring flipped under while putting on the handguard) Was gonna buy an ACOG at the end of the month but the water heater went out yesterday. With optic - Burris AR-332 w/ pic rails removed and screw holes filled w/ JB Weld and a GDI R-Com E-model mount. Attached File Attached File |
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My A4-ish Modern A1 build: Centurion C4 12" rail Brownells 20" 1/12 A1-type blemish barrel A1 flash hider Slickside upper Chrome bolt carrier (no fwd assist serrations) A1 stock w/ A2 buttplate A1 grip Range Tool lower w/ PSA LPK https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/IMG-4880-216238.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/IMG-4881-216239.JPG (Ejection port cover spring flipped under while putting on the handguard) Probably going to use a Burris AR-332 w/ pic rails removed and screw holes filled w/ JB Weld and a GDI R-Com E-model mount. Was gonna buy an ACOG at the end of the month but the water heater went out yesterday. View Quote |
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12.5 with AEM5 suppressor and brake collar system. Rail is KAC carbine FF RAS. http://i.imgur.com/eOeOUxN.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/jCUBk9d.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/HgPcTKZ.jpg?2 View Quote |
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Didn't think about the SIR being free float, but it is. 11.5" HBAR 1/7 with SpecWar http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab302/sniper907/sbr1-1.jpg View Quote |
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Didn't think about the SIR being free float, but it is. 11.5" HBAR 1/7 with SpecWar http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab302/sniper907/sbr1-1.jpg View Quote |
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It's a KAC RAS II. It's a free float handguard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know... looks like a RAS or RIS... I am questioning the free-floatyness. You win some points back for the OTAL, though. Looks good. @edwin907 You are cool, once again. |
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Bump it up... We need some more pics, people. Keep the dream alive.
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Love the DD FSP rails. Very nice. How do you activate your light with you AFG2 all the way back by receiver? Just curious if you have a pressure pad hiding somewhere.
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Love the DD FSP rails. Very nice. How do you activate your light with you AFG2 all the way back by receiver? Just curious if you have a pressure pad hiding somewhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Love the DD FSP rails. Very nice. How do you activate your light with you AFG2 all the way back by receiver? Just curious if you have a pressure pad hiding somewhere. |
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Where did all the builds go? I have a few minor changes in the works on my rifle in post #1. Should have some pics over the next few weeks.
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Shot a 480/500-20x in the walk-and-paste match, then followed with a 6.5 MOA group for the SHTF challenge.
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Geissele MK8 13 with DIY carbine FSB cutout.
Attached File Attached File This one took a little work because of the way the rail installs. On the rail, I cut out the top area, the bottom ribs near the front taper pin hole and made the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider. I had to remove the ribs by the front taper pin to be able to insert and remove the pin. I had to make the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider so I could rotate the rail further, again to be able to insert the taper pins. I also had to remove the C clip from the ejection port cover rod to slide it back some as it was also keeping the rail from rotating. If you use 2 set screws on the bottom instead of taper pins, you wouldn't have to do the last two mods. On the FSB, I removed the bayonet lug and sling swivel. I don't know if you could do this with a clamp on FSB. Installing the gas tube was interesting. I had to hold the FSB in the cutout with the gas tube inside the rail while I installed the roll pin. Lastly, I installed the taper pins with the muzzle on a rest and a Geissele Super Reaction Rod in the upper on a rest. You can do this mod on a MK8 and MK4 with a carbine FSB, MK8 and MK4 13 with carbine FSB or on a MK8 and MK4 15 with a carbine, mid-length or rifle FSB. To use a FSB with taper pins you must use a set screw anti-rotation tab version since the rail must rotate. I did this all with a Dremel and hand file. |
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Geissele MK8 13 with DIY carbine FSB cutout. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/DSC-0003-231454.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/DSC-0005-231455.JPG This one took a little work because of the way the rail installs. On the rail, I cut out the top area, the bottom ribs near the front taper pin hole and made the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider. I had to remove the ribs by the front taper pin to be able to insert and remove the pin. I had to make the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider so I could rotate the rail further, again to be able to insert the taper pins. I also had to remove the C clip from the ejection port cover rod to slide it back some as it was also keeping the rail from rotating. If you use 2 set screws on the bottom instead of taper pins, you wouldn't have to do the last two mods. On the FSB, I removed the bayonet lug and sling swivel. I don't know if you could do this with a clamp on FSB. Installing the gas tube was interesting. I had to hold the FSB in the cutout with the gas tube inside the rail while I installed the roll pin. Lastly, I installed the taper pins with the muzzle on a rest and a Geissele Super Reaction Rod in the upper on a rest. You can do this mod on a MK8 and MK4 13 with carbine FSB or on a MK8 and MK4 15 with a mid-length FSB. To use a FSB with taper pins you must use a set screw anti-rotation tab version since the rail must rotate. I did this all with a Dremel and hand file. View Quote |
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You, Sir, are my hero. Absolutely beautiful. Between this and your DDM4 9 mod, you are inspiring me to take the creativity to the next level. Well done! You win the day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Geissele MK8 13 with DIY carbine FSB cutout. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/DSC-0003-231454.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138579/DSC-0005-231455.JPG This one took a little work because of the way the rail installs. On the rail, I cut out the top area, the bottom ribs near the front taper pin hole and made the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider. I had to remove the ribs by the front taper pin to be able to insert and remove the pin. I had to make the distance between anti-rotation tabs wider so I could rotate the rail further, again to be able to insert the taper pins. I also had to remove the C clip from the ejection port cover rod to slide it back some as it was also keeping the rail from rotating. If you use 2 set screws on the bottom instead of taper pins, you wouldn't have to do the last two mods. On the FSB, I removed the bayonet lug and sling swivel. I don't know if you could do this with a clamp on FSB. Installing the gas tube was interesting. I had to hold the FSB in the cutout with the gas tube inside the rail while I installed the roll pin. Lastly, I installed the taper pins with the muzzle on a rest and a Geissele Super Reaction Rod in the upper on a rest. You can do this mod on a MK8 and MK4 13 with carbine FSB or on a MK8 and MK4 15 with a mid-length FSB. To use a FSB with taper pins you must use a set screw anti-rotation tab version since the rail must rotate. I did this all with a Dremel and hand file. |
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Mk4 9.5. I cut it with my dremel then cleaned it up on my buddy's mill.
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I posted this in the MK18 thread a while ago but forgot about this thread. Here is a pic of a RIS II FSP that I cut to a mock MK18 FSB rail. Here's to keeping the dream alive! My Dremel and file handywork: http://i.imgur.com/JvB2owJ.jpg View Quote |
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I love an FSB. https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3892/14152690990_8ea85ed69e_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1484/26104091475_62cfba9fc6_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1685/26010292136_7b6e62d30c_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5714/22152881740_59b4321a93_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7632/16650557378_42f0a2cd92_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8646/16521259068_b01092ffed_o.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8586/16573793102_93bfdc7a13_o.jpg http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_0836_zps9450d8d6.jpg http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af204/secretwheelman/100_1384_zpsqywxipth.jpg And a work in progress: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/565/31805756963_7a34b2ec16_o.jpg View Quote |
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View Quote Not sure why, but I feel like we've been on page 4 forever. |
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