Originally Posted By MattSFfrd:
i just got my ar-15 so i haven't been buying .223 for very long, what were the prices like before the election?  the lowest i've seen it is $0.28 per round for the cheap stuff.

Originally Posted By jackal2001:


Some retards actually bought this. They are down to 13 cases now.

Originally Posted By jackal2001:


Down to 12 cases now and the price has gone up to $1075.81

Originally Posted By Walsh:



It might take a few weeks now, but you can get Hornady 55 gr rounds and A2230 powder is not a problem at all to find as of 2 weeks ago. Primers do come in but you might have to wait 4-8 weeks. Reloading, that makes it the most $225/1000.

I've not reloaded any .223 yet (just getting a Dillion 550) but the cost of components is WAY under these price increases which means the sellers of ammo are gouging.

Walsh

Originally Posted By FlaDevmeister:
GOOD GOD IN HEAVEN, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

It's obviously the end of the world. President Obama (which was elected by a majority vote, I remind you) has his own opinions on the proliferation of firearms in this country. But he has his own opinion on a lot of things. Doesn't necesarilly mean he's going to pass a law to enforce his opinions on everybody else. I know he's made claims in the past about possible gun control but he's also got a right to change his mind about something and has been known to do just that......kinda like everyone posting on this site. I know I've changed my mind about things before. Let's also remember the guy went to Harvard and taught Constitutional Law. But I'm done ranting about how irrational it seems that we're going to wake up in the very near future and find that either guns and/or ammo is banned or taxed. There have been solutions discussed but there are a lot of people involved in the process of passing bills that have differing opinions on the subject. Not to mention the NRA and other organizations that are too powerful. There are a helluval lotta gun owners in this country that are Democrats and voted for Obama that also happen to have guns. I'm one of them. When you've got the majority of the country backing you there's not a whole lot one person can do to get a law passed.

Even better is all the posters here and elsewhere that are convinced the country's going to spin into civil war any day now. We've already done that. That's why the civil war is covered in school more a lot more than Vietnam or even WW II was. This country did that 150+ years ago and we are STILL reminded of the lessons we learned in doing so. And the Yugoslavians thought they were cool. Nope, we did it bigger and better than they ever did. Theirs was a minor border skirmish compared to what we did.

I'm anxious to see all the people that have recently stockpiled thousands upon thousands of rounds. One poster made a good point. Nobody actually shooting any of it. It makes you think every time you tap your finger in your AR and $0.75 comes out the end of your barrel. Screw that. I've got four mags loaded for mine and, other than that, I'm out. I have about 1,500 rounds of 5.45x39 (and most of that is sealed in a Spam can) that is used on the off chance of SHTF. I live in Florida and hurricanes are known to come through here. I know all too well what it's like to be out of power for a few days. So the SHTF is an actual possibility for me. I've got batteries, a radio, I stock up on canned food and water in the summer months, and I have enough ammo to make it as long as I need to. Let me emphasize I don't stock up on 6 months worth of canned food and water. Just enough to get me through several days. That's all that I'll be losing power and water. The probability of that is so remote I don't bother. Kinda like the possibility of us going into a civil war is so remote, I don't bother buying 20,000 rounds. The chances are so remote it's just no worth it. Another example is being hit by a meteor. I don't prepare for that either because it's too remote.

I'm looking forward to seeing all these doomsdayers lose their asses at some undetermined point in the future that are stocking it up now. The ones doing this (that is, the ones that actually have money) were the same people buying several houses to either flip them or invest in them. Then lost their asses in real estate. Same people that dumped their F-250's to buy a compact Toyota pick-up. I work as a credit analyst for GMAC and you wouldn't believe all the people dumping their full-size trucks and SUV's a year ago for something better on gas. I'm not kidding you, Chevy Cobalts were flying off the lots before the tires even cooled down. You want to blame somebody or offer consipiracy theories for outlandish ammo prices, the conspirators are the ones buying this stuff up. It means anybody buying stockpiles lately is comlicit and you all get what you deserve. Sooner or later, the bubble will burst in this market. It amazes me that people were saying the same thing about oil last year and real-estate the year before yet they can't make the connection here. Short-term amnesia. People said a year ago gas would be close to $10.00 a gallon by now. I paid $2.07 at the pump the other day. Down from $4.50 at about this time last year. People cut back on their gas consumption and, whadya know, oil prices fell and OPEC associates practically shit themselves.

I've got enough to get me by and shooting is one of my favorite hobbies. I'm gonna do what that other guy said: I'm gonna start biking or hitting nature walks or something. I'm not paying these hyper-inflated bullshit prices. I'm going to wait until the prices get realistic again and then I'll resume. The oil on my hardware won't even be dried by the time that happens. I think what the distributors is doing is horrible but this is the same system we fought and died for to ensure its continuance. Funny how people praise America when it works for them and then get bent when they're on the receiving end. You can't blame the distributors for raping you when you're opening you legs and inviting them. You've got noone to blame but yourselves.

Originally Posted By WhackyPlague:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any trouble finding ammo? Prices are somewhat inflated, but my local gun store literally has every brand and caliber you could want.. Shelves full of ammo. XM193 for more or less reasonable prices ($450/1000). .

Originally Posted By Walsh:


While it could always be my particular Bushmaster Gas Piston .223, the very worst ammo it shoots is XM193. When I bring friends to the range their magazines will be loaded with it.

I went to the range yesterday and the S&B was outstanding. While I had to readjust my scope to fire off 15 rounds of 75 grain Blackhills, it was only marginally better. The XM193 is an effort in futility to get anywhere near the center of the target through my rifle.

YMMV,
Walsh

Originally Posted By Snapper692:
Caught a local mom & pop shop cleaning out a Walmart of ammo today......100 packs of Winchester .40S&W are $22 at Walmart, gun store had them marked up to $50! Federal bulk packs of .22LR were $16 at Walmart, now $35 at the gun store. Nice to know what the real problem with ammo prices really are! Douche bags!