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Yeah I'd not fire that either lol.
Looks like there could be a hole in that. I have been checking over my AAC as I load a mag due to the dents (which I havnt had any bad ones), also checking primers as I have also had light primer strikes on the 75gr BTHP I got in March 2023. The LPS are specific to my bolt gun, but often primers are loose after firing so I check what they look like beforehand. I dunno, I havnt bought any recently since I ordered decent amount originally, but I have had different issues with the 3 loads I have bought... My bolt gun unfortunatly won't fire the 2015ish IMI MK262 I have a ton of (Light primer strikes) so I kinda need AAC loads to work out. |
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So far all of mine purchased earlier this month look good visually
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: So far all of mine purchased earlier this month look good visually View Quote |
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I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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Originally Posted By metalsaber: yeah I think they got whatever issues corrected. I know a few of my early lots were a little concerning and I didn't shoot those rounds. However, I think my last 3 sets of 500rds were spot on. View Quote Same here, the last few orders had no visual issues. The months old 77gr OTM order shot to my expectations to say the least. IMHO, still a great bang for the buck ammo. I will be watching for fired case issues, though. Just in case. |
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I tried out the new Garmin with this ammo out of my Andro Corp 16" mid-length gas rifle.
Attached File I'm still loving this, and have been hitting the 55cpr "daily deals" at PSA. |
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Originally Posted By Logcutter: I tried out the new Garmin with this ammo out of my Andro Corp 16" mid-length gas rifle. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/543436/Screenshot_20240607-052722_png-3234527.JPG I'm still loving this, and have been hitting the 55cpr "daily deals" at PSA. View Quote Very nice results Same here. Have 200 more arriving today |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: This stuff just shoots. Back to back 10x groups from my better half. https://i.imgur.com/YK0l4te.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pCw7gOJ.jpeg View Quote Outstanding results Don't ever piss her off,lol |
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Neotopiaman -"Communism could take over the Sahara and have a shortage of sand."
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Originally Posted By Luny421: It shouldn't be, they should send you a prepaid label (most likely UPS), throw it in a box, drop it off at a UPS store. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: it's a pain to mail ammo It shouldn't be, they should send you a prepaid label (most likely UPS), throw it in a box, drop it off at a UPS store. Always drop off ammo at a UPS hub to be shipped. The hubs are where the warehouse is located. The UPS stores don't allow ammo to be shipped out of their stores. Now if you don't mention ammo is in the box I guess they won't know. |
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Neotopiaman -"Communism could take over the Sahara and have a shortage of sand."
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: This stuff just shoots. Back to back 10x groups from my better half. https://i.imgur.com/YK0l4te.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pCw7gOJ.jpeg View Quote Awesome. What barrel length is that and what app did you use for that group size picture ? |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: This stuff just shoots. Back to back 10x groups from my better half. https://i.imgur.com/YK0l4te.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pCw7gOJ.jpeg View Quote Was this the 77gr OTM or the 77gr SMK? Your description says 77gr SMK. |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Always drop off ammo at a UPS hub to be shipped. The hubs are where the warehouse is located. The UPS stores don't allow ammo to be shipped out of their stores. Now if you don't mention ammo is in the box I guess they won't know. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Originally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: it's a pain to mail ammo It shouldn't be, they should send you a prepaid label (most likely UPS), throw it in a box, drop it off at a UPS store. Always drop off ammo at a UPS hub to be shipped. The hubs are where the warehouse is located. The UPS stores don't allow ammo to be shipped out of their stores. Now if you don't mention ammo is in the box I guess they won't know. You don’t have to go to a hub. Drivers take ammo and high valuable items as well. Both UPS hub customer centers near me have been closed for well over a year now. You can go to the hub but you’ll have to track down a driver. I’ve found it’s easier to schedule a pick up or text my driver to let him know I’ve got a pick up for him. |
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Always drop off ammo at a UPS hub to be shipped. The hubs are where the warehouse is located. The UPS stores don't allow ammo to be shipped out of their stores. Now if you don't mention ammo is in the box I guess they won't know. View Quote When I have a prepaid label, they never ask what’s in the box. |
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“Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it’s sterile and I like the taste.” -Patches O’Houlihan
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Originally Posted By Luny421: When I have a prepaid label, they never ask what’s in the box. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Always drop off ammo at a UPS hub to be shipped. The hubs are where the warehouse is located. The UPS stores don't allow ammo to be shipped out of their stores. Now if you don't mention ammo is in the box I guess they won't know. When I have a prepaid label, they never ask what’s in the box. Cool |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: This stuff just shoots. Back to back 10x groups from my better half. https://i.imgur.com/YK0l4te.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pCw7gOJ.jpeg View Quote WOW! That's impressive! I can't wait to try this stuff out. |
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Shot 77OTMs Monday afternoon. Not disappointed with the results. I’ll have to sit at a bench some day and hammer some groups out instead of shooting steel out to 600 yards. Primers were a starting to flatten but not bad. Bolt gun and AR did extremely well. Would buy again.
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So how are ya’ll who have shot a bunch of this feeling about recommending it over IMI Razorcore 77gr for SD/HD purposes?
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Thanks for the feedback! I think I’ll snag a little IMI to stash as my primary, and keep stacking some AAC when it’s on sale for range use.
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The PSA 5.56 77gr tmk is in stock right now.
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PSA recently added "Made by Hornady" to all the projectile descriptions except all the obvious Sierra/Barnes/Nosler loads.
Looks like Hornady is making all the projectiles and AAC isn't yet. The 75 Sabre Blade doesn't yet say it, but all the other Sabres, the 55 FMJ, 75/77 OTM do, Likely an oversight on the 75 SB. |
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Just finished up with Cola Warrior Keystone. Ran the AAC 77gr SMK. Cleared the rifle course.
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I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: PSA recently added "Made by Hornady" to all the projectile descriptions except all the obvious Sierra/Barnes/Nosler loads. Looks like Hornady is making all the projectiles and AAC isn't yet. The 75 Sabre Blade doesn't yet say it, but all the other Sabres, the 55 FMJ, 75/77 OTM do, Likely an oversight on the 75 SB. View Quote So, does anyone know if the non-Sierra/Barnes/Nosler were always made by Hornady and just not specified until now, or were the early buyers of these rounds getting a non-Hornady bullet? |
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Originally Posted By smitty_007: So, does anyone know if the non-Sierra/Barnes/Nosler were always made by Hornady and just not specified until now, or were the early buyers of these rounds getting a non-Hornady bullet? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By smitty_007: Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: PSA recently added "Made by Hornady" to all the projectile descriptions except all the obvious Sierra/Barnes/Nosler loads. Looks like Hornady is making all the projectiles and AAC isn't yet. The 75 Sabre Blade doesn't yet say it, but all the other Sabres, the 55 FMJ, 75/77 OTM do, Likely an oversight on the 75 SB. So, does anyone know if the non-Sierra/Barnes/Nosler were always made by Hornady and just not specified until now, or were the early buyers of these rounds getting a non-Hornady bullet? I can't say for certain, but there were hints from the beginning that all of the "AAC in house" projectiles were made by Hornady. Then last week Jamin posted here (maybe GD) saying that most of their projectiles are made by Hornady. |
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I can't say for certain, but there were hints from the beginning that all of the "AAC in house" projectiles were made by Hornady. Then last week Jamin posted here (maybe GD) saying that most of their projectiles are made by Hornady. View Quote He specified that it was only their rifle projectiles |
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I wonder if the 77 OTM bullet by hornady is the same one Black hills new 77 OTM load is using.
They haven't said yet, but BH is no longer using SMK's. |
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Originally Posted By Marksman14: I'm aware. Is the 77OTM hornady bullet in the BH load the same one that AAC is using? View Quote That would be a pretty guess that yes as I am only aware of the 1 hornady 77 grain otm and psa wants to get as close to the mk 262 performance. I could be wrong, but I'd say yes. |
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AACs might be the factory 2nds Lol.
Sierra sells their SMK seconds via Midway. Ever seen Hornady 77OTM 2nds? Only way I can figure it's so cheap. Pure speculation I am aware. |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: That would be a pretty guess that yes as I am only aware of the 1 hornady 77 grain otm and psa wants to get as close to the mk 262 performance. I could be wrong, but I'd say yes. View Quote Excellent. I suppose I need to check and see if the hornady bullet is in applied ballistics now. |
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I can't say for certain, but there were hints from the beginning that all of the "AAC in house" projectiles were made by Hornady. Then last week Jamin posted here (maybe GD) saying that most of their projectiles are made by Hornady. View Quote Thanks! Here’s to hoping the early 75’s & 77’s I bought also used the Hornady bullet they are calling out, now. I have some AAC 75 gr JAG headstamp rounds from early on that I’m especially curious about. |
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Originally Posted By smitty_007: So, does anyone know if the non-Sierra/Barnes/Nosler were always made by Hornady and just not specified until now, or were the early buyers of these rounds getting a non-Hornady bullet? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By smitty_007: Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: PSA recently added "Made by Hornady" to all the projectile descriptions except all the obvious Sierra/Barnes/Nosler loads. Looks like Hornady is making all the projectiles and AAC isn't yet. The 75 Sabre Blade doesn't yet say it, but all the other Sabres, the 55 FMJ, 75/77 OTM do, Likely an oversight on the 75 SB. So, does anyone know if the non-Sierra/Barnes/Nosler were always made by Hornady and just not specified until now, or were the early buyers of these rounds getting a non-Hornady bullet? When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin View Quote Great inside info. Thank you Stacking it deep |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin View Quote This is awesome information, thank you, Jamin! Really excited to hear this project has been such a success for you guys, and I really appreciate PSA bringing the AAC ammo to market for us. Even happier I made the 77 gr & 75 gr AAC ammo purchases I just did! |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin View Quote Jamin 5 years ago: “hey, what if we made our own ammo?” Jamin 5 years later: “we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory.” What an absolute king. |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin View Quote any consideration to adding sealed necks and primers, at least to some of the loads? |
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Originally Posted By smitty_007: Thanks! Here’s to hoping the early 75’s & 77’s I bought also used the Hornady bullet they are calling out, now. I have some AAC 75 gr JAG headstamp rounds from early on that I’m especially curious about. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By smitty_007: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I can't say for certain, but there were hints from the beginning that all of the "AAC in house" projectiles were made by Hornady. Then last week Jamin posted here (maybe GD) saying that most of their projectiles are made by Hornady. Thanks! Here’s to hoping the early 75’s & 77’s I bought also used the Hornady bullet they are calling out, now. I have some AAC 75 gr JAG headstamp rounds from early on that I’m especially curious about. All 75 gr and 77gr projectiles not labeled Sierra are Hornady. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu: that's really great info and yall deserve all the success that's still to come any consideration to adding sealed necks and primers, at least to some of the loads? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin any consideration to adding sealed necks and primers, at least to some of the loads? We have quotes out for the sealed neck/primer equipment. We will do it in the future. It might be a year or so. |
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Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: We have quotes out for the sealed neck/primer equipment. We will do it in the future. It might be a year or so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: Originally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By Jman_JJE: When we first got started Jason Hornady came out and looked at our operation. He wanted to supply us our rifle projectiles and partner with us in coming out with new projectiles to fill our needs for growing AAC. Keith Enlow from Sierra also came out and did the same. We had numerous presses we had purchased to be rifle projectile presses. We worked with our press consulting firm and figured out that we could use those same rifle projectile presses to make more brass cases. At that point we pivoted to work with Sierra to supply and Hornady to develop/supply all of our rifle bullets and use all of our presses to make more brass. This about doubled the size of our factory and helped us develop new projectiles with their guidance and expand our rifle catalog quickly. We only made a small amount of 55gr FMJ and 125gr FMJ for several months before we started working on retooling those presses to be case presses. If you look at the description of each rifle round it will say if it was made by Hornady or Sierra. The project has been a massive success. At this point we believe we are the largest maker of 5.56 in the US outside of the Lake City factory. Thanks everyone for your support, Jamin any consideration to adding sealed necks and primers, at least to some of the loads? We have quotes out for the sealed neck/primer equipment. We will do it in the future. It might be a year or so. this is the best news I’ve heard in a while. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: AACs might be the factory 2nds Lol. Sierra sells their SMK seconds via Midway. Ever seen Hornady 77OTM 2nds? Only way I can figure it's so cheap. Pure speculation I am aware. View Quote To be fair, I can’t even find 77gr .224 bullets (or loaded ammo) on Hornady’s site |
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Originally Posted By Luny421: To be fair, I can’t even find 77gr .224 bullets (or loaded ammo) on Hornady’s site View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By Saddlerocker: AACs might be the factory 2nds Lol. Sierra sells their SMK seconds via Midway. Ever seen Hornady 77OTM 2nds? Only way I can figure it's so cheap. Pure speculation I am aware. To be fair, I can’t even find 77gr .224 bullets (or loaded ammo) on Hornady’s site It’s a project Hornady worked on with us, it’s made by them for us. |
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