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Posted: 3/13/2020 11:09:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SurtrsFire]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rifleman_556:
No pics currently- sorry. Go-to/SHTF is a PSA (cause I’m poor  ) 20” A4-ish with A2 furniture, carry handle, and Primary Arms fixed 2.5x ACSS. No light, no sling, ambidextrous selector. Never had a malfunction in the year I’ve had it, so that’s what I roll with. Need to get a PSA M16A2 Lower though...Needs a light and sling though
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Posted: 3/13/2020 12:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
All my builds are got to rifles really, but here's a couple that are definitely up to the task; https://i.imgur.com/nlm5Z90.jpg Old pics, both have had some upgrades since then. |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 2:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire: I'd rock a 20" a4 in the boogaloo. End of the world in style. Needs a light and sling though |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 3:07:01 PM EDT
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Update on my go-to rifle. Added the DBAL i2, dual switch, and YHM QD brake. Need to get a Railscales LEAF for the DBAL. Got to do a conjugal visit on my Turbo K and that thing is IMPRESSIVE.
Without the Turbo K, however, the flash is impressive with XM193
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Posted: 3/13/2020 3:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rifleman_556:
I’ve got an M60 sling and the BFG adapter to carry it cross-chest if I needed to. No light as I can navigate my house and the surrounding woods in the dark without excess noise, plus anybody sneaking around out here is a bad, bad thing.
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Posted: 3/13/2020 4:31:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
I like your style 
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Posted: 3/13/2020 6:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Update on my go-to rifle. Added the DBAL i2, dual switch, and YHM QD brake. Need to get a Railscales LEAF for the DBAL. Got to do a conjugal visit on my Turbo K and that thing is IMPRESSIVE. https://i.ibb.co/6F87fwx/20200309-133030.jpg Without the Turbo K, however, the flash is impressive with XM193
https://i.ibb.co/B223SVc/signal-2020-03-06-191325-3.jpg Feel it in your face concussive. I won't be shooting without the can anymore.
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Posted: 3/13/2020 6:23:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Everyone thinks they can see in the dark...until they cant Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By Rifleman_556:
I’ve got an M60 sling and the BFG adapter to carry it cross-chest if I needed to. No light as I can navigate my house and the surrounding woods in the dark without excess noise, plus anybody sneaking around out here is a bad, bad thing. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house, Making Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice.  
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Posted: 3/13/2020 6:29:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SurtrsFire]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 6:33:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Nods is the best option but I assume 99% dont have them so a flashlight is the best they can do. I'd rather have a flashlight and need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 6:41:51 PM EDT
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Not my SHTF self defense rifle, but should SHTF this one would (and does) put food on the table.
My hunting rifle. 6.8 spc II DPMS match trigger Alg rail Primary arms 2.5x Green hunting light.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 8:45:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Update on my go-to rifle. Added the DBAL i2, dual switch, and YHM QD brake. Need to get a Railscales LEAF for the DBAL. Got to do a conjugal visit on my Turbo K and that thing is IMPRESSIVE. https://i.ibb.co/6F87fwx/20200309-133030.jpg Without the Turbo K, however, the flash is impressive with XM193
https://i.ibb.co/B223SVc/signal-2020-03-06-191325-3.jpg 
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Posted: 3/13/2020 8:47:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Nods is the best option but I assume 99% dont have them so a flashlight is the best they can do. I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Get all of them? |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 9:09:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: NODS suck when any light comes your way. Thermal sucks with high humidity. White lights can give you away without proper use. Get all of them? |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 9:09:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amediocreshooter]
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BCM Mk2 Upper with 10.3 Centurion barrel
Gemtech BCG MAWL |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 11:35:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amediocreshooter:
BCM Mk2 Upper with 10.3 Centurion barrel Gemtech BCG MAWL RDIAS 
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Posted: 3/14/2020 1:21:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
10/10 my man. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By amediocreshooter:
BCM Mk2 Upper with 10.3 Centurion barrel Gemtech BCG MAWL RDIAS
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Posted: 3/14/2020 4:21:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: NODS suck when any light comes your way. Thermal sucks with high humidity. White lights can give you away without proper use. Get all of them? |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 5:11:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO:
NODS suck when any light comes your way. Thermal sucks with high humidity. White lights can give you away without proper use. Get all of them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO:
Originally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Get all of them? That depends on what kind of NODS You have. Mine work fine, with very very little halo due to light pollution and function extremely well for Daylight IR Shooting when used with the Daylight cover. Everytime I get an extra $6500.00 I spend it on guns or motorcycles and so have yet to buy into Thermal. I will eventually buy a Trijicon Clip On as I don't even have a NODS Clip On setup and would like to have a nighttime grab and go shooting solution that doesn't give up My position or require a helmet. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 9:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BIgDAM:
I shot mine without my turbo K just to see what it was like and the YHM qd ain't no joke. It was worse for the shooter outside then my old single chamber break was at an indoor range. Feel it in your face concussive. I won't be shooting without the can anymore. That being said, I am super impressed with the Turbo K. When I do get it out of jail, I highly doubt it'll come off my gun very often. Very little gas blowback - which I plan to mitigate with a Radian SD - and surprisingly quiet for a K can. Far exceeds my realistic expectations. I'm super happy with the setup of this rifle so far. Only thing I need to figure out is placement of the front sling attachment. Too far back (as it is now) and it gets in the way of the mag well when reloading. Then if I move it forward, I feel it'll get in the way of my grip...hmm. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 10:39:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DefenderAO]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
@DefenderAO That depends on what kind of NODS You have. Mine work fine, with very very little halo due to light pollution and function extremely well for Daylight IR Shooting when used with the Daylight cover. Everytime I get an extra $6500.00 I spend it on guns or motorcycles and so have yet to buy into Thermal. I will eventually buy a Trijicon Clip On as I don't even have a NODS Clip On setup and would like to have a nighttime grab and go shooting solution that doesn't give up My position or require a helmet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
Originally Posted By DefenderAO:
Originally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Get all of them? That depends on what kind of NODS You have. Mine work fine, with very very little halo due to light pollution and function extremely well for Daylight IR Shooting when used with the Daylight cover. Everytime I get an extra $6500.00 I spend it on guns or motorcycles and so have yet to buy into Thermal. I will eventually buy a Trijicon Clip On as I don't even have a NODS Clip On setup and would like to have a nighttime grab and go shooting solution that doesn't give up My position or require a helmet. ETA: Don't want to derail the pic thread. A lot of great set-ups here. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 11:21:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO:
True. I do have a WP PVS14 with FOM of over 2600 (Res 72, SNR 36.3). My REAP is better for pure hunting and detection. If I get white lit splashed, NODS are awful; you're almost blind. It just depends on what you're doing. Navigating at night? NODS. Need to put a pig down? Thermal. In the house and hear a noise? Surefire or Arisaka and a lot of lumens. ETA: Don't want to derail the pic thread. A lot of great set-ups here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Originally Posted By DefenderAO:
Originally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Yeah, I can see all around my house in the dark and in the surrounding woods- WITH MY PVS14's & DBal. Shooting Offhand, I can pick off targets through the trees at 150M better than I can with an Aimpoint during the day. Also, good luck to anyone who's optics fail and they need to use BUIS in the dark. Three methods of aiming and two to three methods of illumination is my standard. If you ever loose batteries on an Aimpoint and you have no weapon mounted Flashlight, Your BUIS is pretty much worthless. I think everyone should try shooting BUIS on a dark night without White Illumination. Not feasible. Again, shooting Offhand, One Helmet Mounted PVS14 and a DBal, shockingly easy to connect with targets. The only time I would choose to run the Torch and Aimpoint at night is to blind an Assailant at ranges that are 25m or less. So basically, inside My house or Surprise Entries and Raids. On the latter, Flash Bangs would be nice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182007-1314292.jpghttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/484978/20200313_182200-1314291.jpg I'd rather have a flashlight and not need it instead of just blasting away only to turn the lights on after and find out I ghosted a friend or family member. Get all of them? That depends on what kind of NODS You have. Mine work fine, with very very little halo due to light pollution and function extremely well for Daylight IR Shooting when used with the Daylight cover. Everytime I get an extra $6500.00 I spend it on guns or motorcycles and so have yet to buy into Thermal. I will eventually buy a Trijicon Clip On as I don't even have a NODS Clip On setup and would like to have a nighttime grab and go shooting solution that doesn't give up My position or require a helmet. ETA: Don't want to derail the pic thread. A lot of great set-ups here. But I agree with You in regards to Thermals, anything LR or any type of accuracy shooting over 100-150m, Thermal is the answer. I'd really like to have a Clip On Thermal to swap back and fourth between My RECCE Rifle and SPR. Maybe even My Large Frame AR's... |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 11:43:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amediocreshooter:
BCM Mk2 Upper with 10.3 Centurion barrel Gemtech BCG MAWL RDIAS
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Posted: 3/14/2020 1:11:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2020 1:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EVR:
He's right. Idaho does suck. Worst state in the union. So bad no sane person wants to live here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EVR:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
Originally Posted By imdBman:
I got mine out yesterday for coyote hunting. Only heard them, never saw them. @EVR, Idaho sucks, I had to drive 40 minutes to be out here, 12 miles east of Silver City.  .
URG-I upper with Warcomp BCM BCG PSA M4A1 Lower with Larue MBT Stag Ambi Raptor like CH B5 Gen 1 Sopmod and Colt 4 position buffer tube, H buffer Swampfox Kingslayer on MI 45* Picatinny mount. PA Raptor in mount, (unkown manufacture) Surefire 600 on an inline Arisaka Mount https://i.imgur.com/gRr8BnN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lH94D5d.jpg https://i.imgur.com/o2o9Qja.jpg Idaho does suck. Worst state in the union. So bad no sane person wants to live here. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:07:21 PM EDT
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I'm out of shape from where i want to be, but i notice lots of Hbar barrels, and tons of attachments, am i just REALLY out of shape for average. I also notice a lack of slings on a lot of these rifles, you going to do everything one handed post SHTF?
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/216165/IMG_1016-294249-660510.JPG Wife's rifle(sling detached), mine is under 5 WITH sling, don't have any photos though. neither of us wants some sort of "engagement" type SHTF, an avoidance SHTF is the plan, and both rifles will hold MOA, though i have a hard time with that on mine due to the red dot. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:10:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:35:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: YaBoyKGTho]
[#28]
DD M47V7s 11.5" upper Aero M4E1 Lower Geissele SSA BCM Stock Trigicon MRO Streamlight Protac light w/ cloud defensive mount BFG Vickers Sling |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaBoyKGTho:
https://i.imgur.com/8oKfG80.jpg DD M47V7s 11.5" upper Aero M4E1 Lower Geissele SSA BCM Stock Trigicon MRO Streamlight Protac light w/ cloud defensive mount BFG Vickers Sling |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fsjdw2:
I'm out of shape from where i want to be, but i notice lots of Hbar barrels, and tons of attachments, am i just REALLY out of shape for average. I also notice a lack of slings on a lot of these rifles, you going to do everything one handed post SHTF? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/216165/IMG_1016-294249-660510.JPG Wife's rifle(sling detached), mine is under 5 WITH sling, don't have any photos though. neither of us wants some sort of "engagement" type SHTF, an avoidance SHTF is the plan, and both rifles will hold MOA, though i have a hard time with that on mine due to the red dot.
Getting weight down becomes a trade off between how light you can get it and robustness. That and you start, at a certain point, paying extravagantly for parts only to save an ounce or half or a tenth. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 3:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fsjdw2:
I'm out of shape from where i want to be, but i notice lots of Hbar barrels, and tons of attachments, am i just REALLY out of shape for average. I also notice a lack of slings on a lot of these rifles, you going to do everything one handed post SHTF? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/216165/IMG_1016-294249-660510.JPG Wife's rifle(sling detached), mine is under 5 WITH sling, don't have any photos though. neither of us wants some sort of "engagement" type SHTF, an avoidance SHTF is the plan, and both rifles will hold MOA, though i have a hard time with that on mine due to the red dot. As far as heavy barrels, well, they shoot better. Light guns with thin barrels may be easier to carry around on your person all day but most people aren't going to be carrying rifles around all day. Heavier guns shoot softer which makes them easier to control. Heavier barrels tent to shoot more accurately and do so without getting as hot, they are also less likely to get damaged from being dropped or banged into which makes them a good choice for SHTF. For a SHTF rifle, durability, control-ability and reliability are going to trump light weight for most people. |
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AB, CAN
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Posted: 3/14/2020 3:15:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2020 3:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigjunk1:For a SHTF rifle, durability, control-ability and reliability are going to trump light weight for most people. |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 5:02:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By india13c: Yup.
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Posted: 3/14/2020 7:15:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigjunk1:
I assume most people are like me and have a bunch of slings that they have hanging around somewhere. I sometimes add a sling to a rifle before I shoot it but usually I don't need one. I just set the gun down after I'm done with it. I'm also not a fan of securing a rifle a specific way to use the sling as support, so I usually have no reason for a sling. Stuff like flashlights and slings are not things I leave on weapons permanently, just when I need them. As far as heavy barrels, well, they shoot better. Light guns with thin barrels may be easier to carry around on your person all day but most people aren't going to be carrying rifles around all day. Heavier guns shoot softer which makes them easier to control. Heavier barrels tent to shoot more accurately and do so without getting as hot, they are also less likely to get damaged from being dropped or banged into which makes them a good choice for SHTF. For a SHTF rifle, durability, control-ability and reliability are going to trump light weight for most people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigjunk1:
Originally Posted By fsjdw2:
I'm out of shape from where i want to be, but i notice lots of Hbar barrels, and tons of attachments, am i just REALLY out of shape for average. I also notice a lack of slings on a lot of these rifles, you going to do everything one handed post SHTF? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/216165/IMG_1016-294249-660510.JPG Wife's rifle(sling detached), mine is under 5 WITH sling, don't have any photos though. neither of us wants some sort of "engagement" type SHTF, an avoidance SHTF is the plan, and both rifles will hold MOA, though i have a hard time with that on mine due to the red dot. As far as heavy barrels, well, they shoot better. Light guns with thin barrels may be easier to carry around on your person all day but most people aren't going to be carrying rifles around all day. Heavier guns shoot softer which makes them easier to control. Heavier barrels tent to shoot more accurately and do so without getting as hot, they are also less likely to get damaged from being dropped or banged into which makes them a good choice for SHTF. For a SHTF rifle, durability, control-ability and reliability are going to trump light weight for most people. Completely agree. A GoTo Rifle requires certain tools. The more tools You have available to You, the better. There are varying levels of advantageous tools which, unfortunately are regulated by cost. But, without a doubt, if You can afford NODS, You have a force multiplier with great advantages, the extra weight is simply something One must accept, and really is not that noticeable once You become accustomed to Your setup. Thus the reason all U.S. Military Troops who are intelligent enough to utilize these tools to an effective degree, have them mounted on Their Issued Service Weapons and/or helmets. It's a no brainer, You have a light, You mount that light and use that light to illuminate Your target. It would be reckless not to gain all possible advantages available to You. Same goes for NODs and IR devices. Hell even Bi Pods, extra Batteries, Spare BCG parts, heavier MD's and heavier Buffer Weights, Cans, BUIS, Rail Cover, Pressure Pads, Vertical Foregrips or Hand Stops and Slings. All items I try have on both of my GoTo Weapons. My Truck Gun is a little different as I want It as snag free and small as possible. And about those slings- 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2020 9:44:47 PM EDT
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Right now it's the are pistol. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 4:37:22 PM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 3/16/2020 4:42:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2020 5:16:34 PM EDT
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WOW ammo went crazy. LIKE ITS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET.
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Posted: 3/16/2020 5:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
WOW ammo went crazy. LIKE ITS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET. i have enough ammo to supply a medium size army, no panic from me 
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Posted: 3/16/2020 6:53:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M-4matus]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
people that put off buying for the past 4 years should have seen it coming. sucks if you could afford it but if you didnt buy out of laziness then its them. i have enough ammo to supply a medium size army, no panic from me I agree, I have my spare X# thousands of rounds, but I train nearly a thousand rounds a month. That I guess will HAVE TO CHANGE- i just went to my normal online source to get My monthly thousand and, NOPE....Not happening. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 7:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
WOW ammo went crazy. LIKE ITS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 7:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-4matus:
@SurtrsFire I agree, I have my spare X# thousands of rounds, but I train nearly a thousand rounds a month. That I guess will HAVE TO CHANGE- i just went to my normal online source to get My monthly thousand and, NOPE....Not happening. |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 7:26:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/16/2020 8:19:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
https://i.imgur.com/KXoOee4.jpg |
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Posted: 3/16/2020 9:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: Love that paint job at first i wasnt a fan of it when compared to the other guns ive sprayed but now its my favorite after its starting to get some wear on it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2020 7:25:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
I'm good for a few years even at 1k a month, no worries for me since trump is gonna spank democrat booty in november again and prices will drop. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By M-4matus:
@SurtrsFire I agree, I have my spare X# thousands of rounds, but I train nearly a thousand rounds a month. That I guess will HAVE TO CHANGE- i just went to my normal online source to get My monthly thousand and, NOPE....Not happening. 
Now I don't have a way to resupply. 
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Posted: 3/17/2020 7:30:35 AM EDT
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@Amos_Moses
Your P&W14.5" BCM...any issues with your WML power cable coming in contact with the barrel and melting under your rail? |
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Posted: 3/17/2020 7:41:54 AM EDT
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SHTF?
I have a couple of Gucci ARs but for SHTF I'll grab my M16A1... simple stupid & reliable. |
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Posted: 3/17/2020 7:54:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens:
SHTF? I have a couple of Gucci ARs but for SHTF I'll grab my M16A1... simple stupid & reliable. |
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