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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:16:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Originally Posted By Hunterex: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine_jpg-1505067.JPG Getting there. What am I looking at here? This is the GWOT inspired thread, right?  Spare parts mash up build with an 04 theme. Wanted another similar rifle to play back up to my Holland for the season so I can leave the Mod 0s at home. 14.5 M4 barrel and an odd length PRi tube sits the can just about flush with the end.  Attached File Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:21:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: This is the GWOT inspired thread, right? Spare parts mash up build with an 04 theme. Wanted another similar rifle to play back up to my Holland for the season so I can leave the Mod 0s at home. 14.5 M4 barrel and an odd length PRi tube sits the can just about flush with the end. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145HAEM5_jpg-1505105.JPG That's sick! This is really pushing my Franken-H idea further! I just need the Armalite tube to get here so I mean measure OD to see if the recce rail will match up. If not I'll just use a S-EX rail as a stand-in to hover above the rail sections that will be added. Edit: what's the OD of the ring? I just realized that it sits JUST below the recce rail. If the locking ring is bigger than the PRI variant then it won't work. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:31:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
[#3]
The locking collar is 2.38" and the step down from it before hitting the 2" tube is 2.19"
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:34:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: This is the GWOT inspired thread, right? Spare parts mash up build with an 04 theme. Wanted another similar rifle to play back up to my Holland for the season so I can leave the Mod 0s at home. 14.5 M4 barrel and an odd length PRi tube sits the can just about flush with the end. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145HAEM5_jpg-1505105.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine2_png-1505130.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Originally Posted By Hunterex: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine_jpg-1505067.JPG Getting there. What am I looking at here? This is the GWOT inspired thread, right? Spare parts mash up build with an 04 theme. Wanted another similar rifle to play back up to my Holland for the season so I can leave the Mod 0s at home. 14.5 M4 barrel and an odd length PRi tube sits the can just about flush with the end. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145HAEM5_jpg-1505105.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine2_png-1505130.JPG Looks fun. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:34:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: This is the GWOT inspired thread, right? Spare parts mash up build with an 04 theme. Wanted another similar rifle to play back up to my Holland for the season so I can leave the Mod 0s at home. 14.5 M4 barrel and an odd length PRi tube sits the can just about flush with the end. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145HAEM5_jpg-1505105.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine2_png-1505130.JPG What is the length on the PRI tube? This setup looks great. The PRI tube and AEM5/Ops 12th just go together so well. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:38:39 PM EST
[#6]
Just under 11.5". The lower's in sad shape as it's had all the annoying stuff filled in and sanded, but it hasn't ceased raining long enough to get a chance to coat it. Way the flash catches the magwell is making me cringe.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:42:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Just under 11.5". The lower's in sad shape as it's had all the annoying stuff filled in and sanded, but it hasn't ceased raining long enough to get a chance to coat it. Way the flash catches the magwell is making me cringe. In my head I was thinking that was an unusual choice for such a GWOT master.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 8:39:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/145carbine_jpg-1505067.JPG Getting there. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 2:26:46 PM EST
[#9]
 Let's do some hoodrat shit. From top to bottom: NSW Franken-H Perverting the Gothic Serpent The Armalites are 2.25" OD so PRI recce rail wouldn't work without some fitting, but that might make for a cool project, but might be the only option. SPR rail is out of the question since rails would be 0.25" high on the handguard. Even an A.R.M.S. S-EX might not work with it. @Hunterex does the recce rail bolt to the handguard or does that "foot" just rest on top of it? Sorry I'm bugging the shit out of you about this
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Posted: 7/16/2020 2:43:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: https://i.postimg.cc/SK3JrtGg/IMG-20200716-141332.jpg Let's do some hoodrat shit. From top to bottom: NSW Franken-H Perverting the Gothic Serpent The Armalites are 2.25" OD so PRI recce rail wouldn't work without some fitting, but that might make for a cool project, but might be the only option. SPR rail is out of the question since rails would be 0.25" high on the handguard. Even an A.R.M.S. S-EX might not work with it. @Hunterex does the recce rail bolt to the handguard or does that "foot" just rest on top of it? Sorry I'm bugging the shit out of you about this Likes the shit out of this |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 3:12:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: Likes the shit out of this I'm just trying to catch up to you dudes in my own way! When I first started with a few store bought ARs and a ton of older bolt guns from my childhood, I thought I'd never have the small collection I have right now. I always read people say to be patient and now I believe them when they say their rigs are years in the making to get them just how they want them. I started small and just shot the piss out of what I had while making tweaks along the way. Turns out my mom and dad did something right when they bought two Leupold Vari-X III scopes that would eventually be given to me  Gonna have to pony up the dough for a Lilja because I want to use that Vari-X III 2.5-8 on the OG Seal Recce. And probably the Vari-X III 3-9 on the Franken-H with the CLE stick that will be here Saturday. |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 3:41:41 PM EST
[#12]
The recce rail bolts to the rear lug of the 8.5" top rail. Going to take a lot of work to get a recce rail to work with the ArmaLite tube.
PRi has a line of risers that are worth taking a look at. Alternatively, one of the direct attach SPR rails may be a good candidate for relieving the underside to match the larger OD of your tube. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 4:57:27 PM EST
[#13]
That makes sense. You mean the Delta forearm SPR rails? I wonder if the standard recce rail would work with just a spacer at the front as a stand in for the rail it would normally attach to? Or just mill out the rear of a rail section so it attaches (sort of) like it's supposed to.
I don't know what the final product will be, but I just have this idea I can't shake! So far the idea manifests as: Armalite fiberglass tube, PRI recce rail modified to fit (top rail sections are up in the air), Vari-X III 3-9, LaRue mount/NF A203 (I like my shit sky high and this isn't a clone anyhow), CLE recce barrel. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 7:31:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#14]
Recut recce rail foot curve to 2.5", make spacer for front bolt to hg, with 2.5" curve, drill and tap HG, locktite bolt.
10.3" gwot lookin Mutt, since nobody wanted this shortened 9.5" rail lol  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 7:49:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Recut recce rail foot curve to 2.5", make spacer for front bolt to hg, with 2.5" curve, drill and tap HG, locktite bolt. 10.3" gwot lookin Mutt, since nobody wanted this shortened 9.5" rail lol https://i.ibb.co/9V8TXVD/IMG-20200716-203152448.jpg You looking for some work, bro?! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 7:58:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: You looking for some work, bro?! I can see it now......Eh, it sounds like some difficult setups...i prolly could but i domt wanna commit to that....yet. Heck.....i bet we wouldnt even have to touch the forearm....this looks great and its def secure just resting there on it. Just machine the RR for a 2.5" DIA  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2020 9:48:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: I can see it now......Eh, it sounds like some difficult setups...i prolly could but i domt wanna commit to that....yet. Heck.....i bet we wouldnt even have to touch the forearm....this looks great and its def secure just resting there on it. Just machine the RR for a 2.5" DIA https://i.ibb.co/CKqQ52g/Screenshot-20200716-210257.png Don't be scared of commitment, dude! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2020 1:15:58 PM EST
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Posted: 7/18/2020 1:49:09 PM EST
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2020 5:22:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#20]
Eff the rules. This is gwot land
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Posted: 7/19/2020 8:17:17 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Eff the rules. This is gwot land https://i.ibb.co/Z8ycY8y/IMG-20200719-175755819.jpg The rules are...there are no rules |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:15:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Don't be scared of commitment, dude! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: I can see it now......Eh, it sounds like some difficult setups...i prolly could but i domt wanna commit to that....yet. Heck.....i bet we wouldnt even have to touch the forearm....this looks great and its def secure just resting there on it. Just machine the RR for a 2.5" DIA https://i.ibb.co/CKqQ52g/Screenshot-20200716-210257.png Don't be scared of commitment, dude! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 4:58:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Infidel4life11: I don't care what word is in there! I wanna do GWOT rat shit! |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:51:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: Into_the_Void]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohguy: The rules are...there are no rules Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohguy: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Eff the rules. This is gwot land https://i.ibb.co/Z8ycY8y/IMG-20200719-175755819.jpg The rules are...there are no rules As OP..I approve of this message Just do hoodrat shit with gwot shit  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 7:40:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: As OP..I approve of this message Just do hoodrat shit with gwot shit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200720_183622_2_jpg-1512297.JPG Cos there is only one rule in my bedroom FUCK ALL RULES -Montez Glad to see the Mini NSW back in action! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 9:33:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I don't care what word is in there! I wanna do GWOT rat shit! Lol i like this group. Ok, ill try a test cut on a piece of AL and see how a 2.5" rad likes being cut, hanging out the top of the vice jaws. If this shit works, ill need the hg on an upper and the recce rail, so i can fit it up. Ya'll are wild'n on this GWOT, and im all for it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 9:43:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Lol i like this group. Ok, ill try a test cut on a piece of AL and see how a 2.5" rad likes being cut, hanging out the top of the vice jaws. If this shit works, ill need the hg on an upper and the recce rail, so i can fit it up. Ya'll are wild'n on this GWOT, and im all for it. Fuck YES we wildin'! Can you imagine if half this shit was posted in a clone thread? Arfcom would melt. It might start a revolutionary war. Arfcom would catch COVID. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 9:50:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#28]
Sdmf, Utah, and some others have def thrown together some fun stuff using clome parts. Im always down for making a what if. Just gotta make sure i can.....people be out here losing their shit when they see what i do. I must be one of only a few cloners with a machining degree lol. Its bad cause i see what ya'll want in my head as you say it, and all i gotta do is make a setup and rip chips lol
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Posted: 7/21/2020 12:09:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Fuck YES we wildin'! Can you imagine if half this shit was posted in a clone thread? Arfcom would melt. It might start a revolutionary war. Arfcom would catch COVID. Yeah but we’d win, cause we use our shit vs monkeys spendin $10k on a mk12 that doesn’t leave the safe space.  
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:46:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Cos there is only one rule in my bedroom FUCK ALL RULES -Montez Glad to see the Mini NSW back in action! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: As OP..I approve of this message Just do hoodrat shit with gwot shit https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20200720_183622_2_jpg-1512297.JPG Cos there is only one rule in my bedroom FUCK ALL RULES -Montez Glad to see the Mini NSW back in action! Not sure how I feel about the 2.5-8 on it. It's not my favorite scope, but I have a hard time letting it go. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 6:37:22 AM EST
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USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:47:16 AM EST
[#32]
Some new GWOT things going on. Always liked the look of this dude's set up so I decided to clone it to the best of my current ability. He has so many different iterations that I was on the fence as to which to go with but decided I'll be going with the one with the offset dot. Still waiting on some more stuff.
 Inspiration:   
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 10:59:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Sdmf, Utah, and some others have def thrown together some fun stuff using clome parts. Im always down for making a what if. Just gotta make sure i can.....people be out here losing their shit when they see what i do. I must be one of only a few cloners with a machining degree lol. Its bad cause i see what ya'll want in my head as you say it, and all i gotta do is make a setup and rip chips lol Correct me if I'm wrong - and I often am - but doesn't the rail need to be taken down (or up depending on how you look at it) 0.125" to offset the 0.25" diameter difference (or 0.125" radius) from the PRI 2.00" diameter, versus the Armalite 2.25" diameter? I thought about using PRI rail sections to match up with the top rail of the receiver, but I'm not sure there is enough meat there to lose 0.125" Edit: I just remembered that Arisaka makes a low profile rail section and they list the height on their website. Does anyone have a PRI section handy to measure the height? If they are 0.125" different I'm going to loose my mind. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 11:45:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#34]
You would move the recce rails contact pad UP .125, with a 2.25" rad cutter DIA, from the center of the current pad location.
Setup for 2.25" dia, touch off on recce rail pad, then machine over .125". Take a measurement from the bottom of the pad to the bottom of the rail, and subtract .125 = the step thats gonna be left to see what rails would fit in there. |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 11:47:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Correct me if I'm wrong - and I often am - but doesn't the rail need to be taken down (or up depending on how you look at it) 0.125" to offset the 0.25" diameter difference (or 0.125" radius) from the PRI 2.00" diameter, versus the Armalite 2.25" diameter? I thought about using PRI rail sections to match up with the top rail of the receiver, but I'm not sure there is enough meat there to lose 0.125" Edit: I just remembered that Arisaka makes a low profile rail section and they list the height on their website. Does anyone have a PRI section handy to measure the height? If they are 0.125" different I'm going to loose my mind. .214" Top center to bottom center. .254" Top to bottom edges. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 2:40:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dobs013]
[#36]
Getting there! Waiting on my Colt Canada buffer to land and my xm177 lock ring to come. Have a magpul ASAP qd endplate waiting for go on. Also have a afg2, RM45L and DDC g mount in the mail. Decided on a Tango 6 for the optic. It’s FFP and a lot cheaper than the 1-10x24.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 3:25:53 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Getting there! Waiting on my Colt Canada buffer til I’ve to land and my xm177 lock ring to come. Have a magpul ASAP qd endplate waiting for go on. Also have a afg2, RM45L and DDC g mount in the mail. Decided on a Tango 6 for the optic. It’s FFP and a lot cheaper than the 1-10x24. https://i.imgur.com/fwDOSPe.jpg Damnit boy I like this more and more. Wish I'd known you were after an AFG2, I got a Pelican 1510 that's full of shit that I need to just get rid of now that I know which direction these builds are going. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 3:26:41 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: .214" Top center to bottom center. .254" Top to bottom edges. Guess Arisaka isn't in the cards, then. They wouldn't be curved for the tube anyhow. Back to PRI rail sections as the only viable option. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 3:41:46 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Damnit boy I like this more and more. Wish I'd known you were after an AFG2, I got a Pelican 1510 that's full of shit that I need to just get rid of now that I know which direction these builds are going. I have a list of parts that have been seen in use on the the cqb version of this rifle. So I’m basically building this off that. There’s only one picture of a 15.7 upper in circulation and it’s an acog with a 9-13 Harris. Not running that setup... |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2020 4:12:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Guess Arisaka isn't in the cards, then. They wouldn't be curved for the tube anyhow. Back to PRI rail sections as the only viable option. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Hunterex: .214" Top center to bottom center. .254" Top to bottom edges. Guess Arisaka isn't in the cards, then. They wouldn't be curved for the tube anyhow. Back to PRI rail sections as the only viable option.  If i had a 2-1/4" ball cutter i could literally take a rail down to the needed thickness but might be too low for mounting. Thx for the numbers. Id have to remove like 1/8" thickness for clearance. . . . . . GWOT GWOT GWOT  |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 9:03:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By india13c: Some new GWOT things going on. Always liked the look of this dude's set up so I decided to clone it to the best of my current ability. He has so many different iterations that I was on the fence as to which to go with but decided I'll be going with the one with the offset dot. Still waiting on some more stuff. https://i.imgur.com/NocpVoz.jpg Inspiration: https://i.imgur.com/EjYUbJY.jpg Took the barrel from my quasi-NSW recce, put it in a Holland, parted-out the Holland and then slapped the barrel in this.   |
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USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 2:00:27 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Very nice. I did something similar, that's still being tweaked, but went with a 16". Really been debating an FDE SL-K and FDE K2 for it. Took the barrel from my quasi-NSW recce, put it in a Holland, parted-out the Holland and then slapped the barrel in this. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004429433_01b8714d94_o.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50005210487_4a47af0afc_o.jpg Oooooo I like that!! |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 5:38:41 AM EST
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:00:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: I'm not really sure what gwot is. Does this fit here? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/261626/20200721_201133_jpg-1514211.JPG Global War On Terrorism Basically parts with a military contract or seen in the wild pictures from 2001-present. |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 7:38:42 AM EST
[#45]
I thought it was great war on terror?
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Posted: 7/22/2020 9:00:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: Outrider]
[#46]
Gangsta
Weapons Only Thread |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 9:01:26 AM EST
[#47]
Grandiose
Warfare On Terries |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 9:26:59 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Gangsta Weapons Only Thread I think I'll go with this one. |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 9:33:39 AM EST
[#49]
Some oldies since we're talking Geissele
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 9:46:57 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Some oldies since we're talking Geissele https://live.staticflickr.com/1931/43464307240_6659e7ea1e_h.jpg Those older G rails are peak G. Baffles me that they don't still produce them. |
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