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Posted: 7/2/2021 9:57:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dobs013]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Broooooo that looks great with the ACE! Also: this flush fit is about to look a whole lot different in the near future https://i.imgur.com/8nnaZBc.jpg That bipod tho.....  ETA - Top of the page.... 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:13:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Broooooo that looks great with the ACE! Also: this flush fit is about to look a whole lot different in the near future https://i.imgur.com/8nnaZBc.jpg 
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Posted: 7/3/2021 2:22:48 PM EDT
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Anyone have a PRI Mk12 upper they’re looking to sell or have any leads on one?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2021 3:37:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ark86]
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySolid fucking post |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2021 6:56:46 PM EDT
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Most GWOT to least GWOT.
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Posted: 7/3/2021 8:45:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
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Planning to install a new rail soon, I wanted to go with a MK16 to keep with the whole M4A1 inspired theme, but will likely opt for a BCM since it’s lighter and less expensive.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2021 9:13:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2021 7:02:31 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2021 7:06:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51291030435_5baa5cc373_o.jpg That's the ticket! Good stuff! |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 7:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: That's the ticket! Good stuff! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51291030435_5baa5cc373_o.jpg That's the ticket! Good stuff! |
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Posted: 7/4/2021 8:24:37 PM EDT
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What would be an acceptable replacement to the KAC Mk12 rail for a Mod 1 build? I feel like I’m going to have too tough of a time finding one. Was thinking a LaRue quad rail.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/4/2021 8:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: What would be an acceptable replacement to the KAC Mk12 rail for a Mod 1 build? I feel like I’m going to have too tough of a time finding one. Was thinking a LaRue quad rail. I don't remember ever seeing one sans KAC FF RAS long. If I can get confirmation of FF RAS medium and x24 combo for the recce, I might think about letting mine go. |
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Posted: 7/5/2021 5:51:16 PM EDT
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tons of early unseen GWOT photos in this GD thread. people keep adding to it too. very cool.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Remembering-Bagram/5-2466884/?page=1 |
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Posted: 7/5/2021 8:31:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I don't remember ever seeing one sans KAC FF RAS long. If I can get confirmation of FF RAS medium and x24 combo for the recce, I might think about letting mine go. Let me know. I’ve got something special to trade you for it 
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: What would be an acceptable replacement to the KAC Mk12 rail for a Mod 1 build? I feel like I’m going to have too tough of a time finding one. Was thinking a LaRue quad rail. There isn't one. Hang tight. Kac will drop them eventually. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2021 5:25:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: There isn't one. Hang tight. Kac will drop them eventually. Guess I have been out of the loop. Are MK12 RAS unobtanoum now? |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 5:40:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Guess I have been out of the loop. Are MK12 RAS unobtanoum now? I haven't seen too many for sale recently but about six months ago there were still tons. I wouldn't say unobtainium just yet. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2021 5:43:28 PM EDT
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Dobs showed me one that was going for stupid money on Gunbroker. They're just OOS at retailers so folks are getting nervous. Seems that happens to everything these days. TP, ammo, wood, now add FF RAS long to the list.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 6:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Dobs showed me one that was going for stupid money on Gunbroker. They're just OOS at retailers so folks are getting nervous. Seems that happens to everything these days. TP, ammo, wood, now add FF RAS long to the list. Kac usually releases RAS’s in lots. They’ll do a run, they will ship to retailers. They sell out. Then once they sell out everywhere and KAC shows out of stock, everyone freaks and starts paying stupid money for them. You’ll usually see a lot of the same people dumping them whenever they go out of stock. Kac will do another run and resupply everyone then the cycle will repeat. Unless Kac has come out and said they have discontinued the rail, although I haven’t heard or seen that anywhere. So best thing to do is wait it out and there will be another run eventually. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2021 6:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Kac usually releases RAS’s in lots. They’ll do a run, they will ship to retailers. They sell out. Then once they sell out everywhere and KAC shows out of stock, everyone freaks and starts paying stupid money for them. You’ll usually see a lot of the same people dumping them whenever they go out of stock. Kac will do another run and resupply everyone then the cycle will repeat. Unless Kac has come out and said they have discontinued the rail, although I haven’t heard or seen that anywhere. So best thing to do is wait it out and there will be another run eventually. BIG THINK: GWOT homies buy up the next run, then we control the market. 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2021 8:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: What would be an acceptable replacement to the KAC Mk12 rail for a Mod 1 build? I feel like I'm going to have too tough of a time finding one. Was thinking a LaRue quad rail. someone shoulda sent a mk12 user a better rail |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 8:09:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: BIG THINK: GWOT homies buy up the next run, then we control the market. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Dobs013: Kac usually releases RAS’s in lots. They’ll do a run, they will ship to retailers. They sell out. Then once they sell out everywhere and KAC shows out of stock, everyone freaks and starts paying stupid money for them. You’ll usually see a lot of the same people dumping them whenever they go out of stock. Kac will do another run and resupply everyone then the cycle will repeat. Unless Kac has come out and said they have discontinued the rail, although I haven’t heard or seen that anywhere. So best thing to do is wait it out and there will be another run eventually. BIG THINK: GWOT homies buy up the next run, then we control the market. I like this idea |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 8:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: i wish there was. the ff ras shoot loose. to the point some guys drilled tapped and setscrewed em in place, or red locktited em. they look neat. ive also personally repaired two with broken off threads at the nut. like...i had to make a new threaded section. someone shoulda sent a mk12 user a better rail I had to send one back that was still loose after the locking ring was torqued down. Hell, if I recall even Trey Knight commented the LaRue rail was an improvement over the FF RAS. You can still build a badass rifle with the LT (I’m going with one for my carry handle Gordon’ish thing) it just won’t be a Mk12, and that’s perfectly fine. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 8:56:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soberglitch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: I had to send one back that was still loose after the locking ring was torqued down. Hell, if I recall even Trey Knight commented the LaRue rail was an improvement over the FF RAS. You can still build a badass rifle with the LT (I’m going with one for my carry handle Gordon’ish thing) it just won’t be a Mk12, and that’s perfectly fine. Even more tempting for me to break away from clone correctness and grab the LaRue rail. Plus, it’s only $209 vs whatever gouged prices the Mk12 is going for. ETA: I wonder what the lead times on the LaRue quad rails are. Might be the deciding factor. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 9:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: Even more tempting for me to break away from clone correctness and grab the LaRue rail. Plus, it’s only $209 vs whatever gouged prices the Mk12 is going for. ETA: I wonder what the lead times on the LaRue quad rails are. Might be the deciding factor. I believe it is 1-2 months if I remember what they told me correctly. That’s when I bought the fake one. I’ve been searching for a 13.2 putting WTB ads here and on Reddit. The quote also makes me happier and more confident in this build. The rifle length NSW must live. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2021 12:23:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
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we had a guy with a full larue upper on his m4 when i was in...2008 time. was some high up officer. had a surefire can on it and an acog. i posted pics years ago on here . ill find em!
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Posted: 7/7/2021 2:51:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: Even more tempting for me to break away from clone correctness and grab the LaRue rail. Plus, it’s only $209 vs whatever gouged prices the Mk12 is going for. ETA: I wonder what the lead times on the LaRue quad rails are. Might be the deciding factor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: Originally Posted By Outrider: I had to send one back that was still loose after the locking ring was torqued down. Hell, if I recall even Trey Knight commented the LaRue rail was an improvement over the FF RAS. You can still build a badass rifle with the LT (I’m going with one for my carry handle Gordon’ish thing) it just won’t be a Mk12, and that’s perfectly fine. Even more tempting for me to break away from clone correctness and grab the LaRue rail. Plus, it’s only $209 vs whatever gouged prices the Mk12 is going for. ETA: I wonder what the lead times on the LaRue quad rails are. Might be the deciding factor. There was someone selling a kac rail on one of the knights Facebook groups last night, not sure if you’re on that. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 3:24:47 PM EDT
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All this talk of Gordon carbines got me thinking and looking at the parts bin a little differently. This is an older 6920 barrel chopped by Adco and mounted on a set of Armalite receivers from about ‘09, sprayed with Norrell’s, skinny handguards, side sling mount, ARMS sight, etc. All makes for a neat little SBR host for the AEM5.
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Posted: 7/7/2021 5:33:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soberglitch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kbrown0122: There was someone selling a kac rail on one of the knights Facebook groups last night, not sure if you’re on that. I’m not on Facebook much but the only KAC group I found and joined doesn’t allow selling. Which group was it? |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:27:20 PM EDT
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All this talk against the ff Ras is heresy.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11PennReserve: All this talk of Gordon carbines got me thinking and looking at the parts bin a little differently. This is an older 6920 barrel chopped by Adco and mounted on a set of Armalite receivers from about ‘09, sprayed with Norrell’s, skinny handguards, side sling mount, ARMS sight, etc. All makes for a neat little SBR host for the AEM5. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/330270/09FBC073-0E87-4B69-ABF5-6D25CBF14CB0_jpe-2005258.JPG Jesus that's hot |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 6:29:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Jesus that's hot Big time. You're making me want to rebuild my Mk18. Well done. |
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Posted: 7/7/2021 11:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: I’m not on Facebook much but the only KAC group I found and joined doesn’t allow selling. Which group was it? It’s called “the black” |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2021 7:23:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11PennReserve: All this talk of Gordon carbines got me thinking and looking at the parts bin a little differently. This is an older 6920 barrel chopped by Adco and mounted on a set of Armalite receivers from about ‘09, sprayed with Norrell’s, skinny handguards, side sling mount, ARMS sight, etc. All makes for a neat little SBR host for the AEM5. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/330270/09FBC073-0E87-4B69-ABF5-6D25CBF14CB0_jpe-2005258.JPG New favorite carbine |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 12:52:37 PM EDT
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Thanks for the comments, I dig the setup too! I know this is tech but also wonder whether laying on the red leather “bordello” couch is influencing her looks. Will take some less provocative and hopefully clearer shots when I’m home again. In the meantime here she is sans AEM5. I probably should chop the now useless bayo lug, but it doesn’t interfere so we’ll see.
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Posted: 7/8/2021 1:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kbrown0122: There was someone selling a kac rail on one of the knights Facebook groups last night, not sure if you’re on that. Found a Facebook group with a guy selling one, maybe the same guy you saw. He wants $650 for his Mk12 rail so it looks like the used market is going for those gunbroker prices. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 3:16:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BePhreed]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11PennReserve: Thanks for the comments, I dig the setup too! I know this is tech but also wonder whether laying on the red leather “bordello” couch is influencing her looks. Will take some less provocative and hopefully clearer shots when I’m home again. In the meantime here she is sans AEM5. I probably should chop the now useless bayo lug, but it doesn’t interfere so we’ll see. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/330270/5E31BD6E-BA1D-47C7-A6F4-F6EF41B7735E_jpe-2006312.JPG Looks great without also. What's the barrel length for flush fit on the AEM? |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 4:02:56 PM EDT
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Guys I'm telling you, just wait for the ff Ras to come back in stock. It will. It always does.
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Posted: 7/8/2021 4:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Guys I'm telling you, just wait for the ff Ras to come back in stock. It will. It always does. I’m waiting for sure. I’m not someone who pays gouged or panic prices. I’m not rich enough or in a big enough hurry to pay double for a handguard that’s still in production. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 5:45:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2apatriot]
[#40]
Finally got a 14.5 P+W upper. I'm amazed at how short and small it feels with the CAR stock. Its giving me ideas for some more 14.5 builds... I actually plan on keeping a red dot on this rifle, but now I kind of want another Block 1 for an ACOG.
 Still need a dedicated lower and correct rear sight for this one. Is one KAC rear sight better than the other for actual use?  Attached FileOn a related note, I don't know if I can live with a 16 inch for my RIS II. I feel the need to build a proper Block II with an Elcan.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 6:33:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soberglitch: I’m waiting for sure. I’m not someone who pays gouged or panic prices. I’m not rich enough or in a big enough hurry to pay double for a handguard that’s still in production. Yea just get on the operation parts notification list. They’re usually pretty good about getting them in regularly. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2021 7:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2apatriot: Finally got a 14.5 P+W upper. I'm amazed at how short and small it feels with the CAR stock. Its giving me ideas for some more 14.5 builds... I actually plan on keeping a red dot on this rifle, but now I kind of want another Block 1 for an ACOG. Still need a dedicated lower and correct rear sight for this one. Is one KAC rear sight better than the other for actual use? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361805/19D9E118-930D-4610-B3D9-251BF1A98236_jpe-2006641.JPG On a related note, I don't know if I can live with a 16 inch for my RIS II. I feel the need to build a proper Block II with an Elcan. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361805/C166A8B0-0618-4B67-9D5A-BD9A7ED8F819_jpe-2006638.JPG Man an Elcan on a Block 2 just looks so good. I love the Elcan. I'd like another one at some point. A poor mans GLSSC with an Elcan would look awesome. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2021 7:28:50 PM EDT
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Anyone got an A.R.M.S. #40L they want to trade for a #40? This carbine length #45M SIR doesn't look right with a full sized #40.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2021 7:45:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: greentips556]
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I want an FF RAS bad but I've heard through the grapevine that KAC is discontinuing it for good to focus on their other lines. I am hopeful that such rumors are bull**** though.
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:09:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greentips556: I want an FF RAS bad but I've heard through the grapevine that KAC is discontinuing it for good to focus on their other lines. I am hopeful that such rumors are bull**** though. That rumor pops up every time they go out of stock everywhere. I wouldn’t sweat it. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 11:55:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2021 1:48:45 PM EDT
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Coming soon!.....
    
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Posted: 7/9/2021 2:05:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/9/2021 2:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Deployment gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_7152_JPG-2007531.JPG Pistol clone at home https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4324_Mk18_Mod_0_jpg-2007526.JPG CD Got this old school bayonet light mount. I think it was called "quick 2 see" or something like that.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/9/2021 3:24:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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