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Posted: 2/26/2016 6:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mzevenb3596:
Where did you find that stock? I am having no luck Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mzevenb3596:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/Ebq5Ui" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1668/25059421321_8273991d2d_k.jpg</a>IMG_1045 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr <a href="https://flic.kr/p/Dngm1n" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1446/24525840813_fd1ca9db38_k.jpg</a>IMG_1041 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr <a href="https://flic.kr/p/Ebq6XR" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1576/25059424891_06754e1215_k.jpg</a>IMG_1037 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr Where did you find that stock? I am having no luck EE |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 6:44:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Currently waiting for this to get to my ffl. This will be my first NFA item.
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Posted: 2/26/2016 6:49:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JBecker_72: Currently waiting for this to get to my ffl. This will be my first NFA item. http://s18.postimg.org/rrug5l8w9/image.png Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 6:58:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Currently waiting for this to get to my ffl. This will be my first NFA item. http://s18.postimg.org/rrug5l8w9/image.png Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? Just decided I liked the rifles I already have the way they are. It was pretty easy to order a complete rifle and I won't have to engrave this thing either. Im sure I'll form 1 a rifle at some point though. |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 7:03:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Currently waiting for this to get to my ffl. This will be my first NFA item. http://s18.postimg.org/rrug5l8w9/image.png Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? I would enjoy a factory SBR at some point. Probably a colt 6933 |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 7:07:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JBecker_72]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
I would enjoy a factory SBR at some point. Probably a colt 6933 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Currently waiting for this to get to my ffl. This will be my first NFA item. http://s18.postimg.org/rrug5l8w9/image.png Nice rifle but why didn't you Form 1 a lower? I would enjoy a factory SBR at some point. Probably a colt 6933 That was my first choice. It's slightly cheaper than the BCM also. Like $75 I think. But my local gun shop is great, they are a BCM dealer, and they don't do NFA transfers. They said they couldn't get the Colt so I decided to go with the BCM. The other AR SBR I want is a 6921 or comparable M4 carbine. Might just order another BCM if I decide to do that. |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 8:03:36 PM EDT
[#7]
New stock came. Remind me if a car stock
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Posted: 2/26/2016 8:10:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fatcat4620:
New stock came. Remind me if a car stock http://i65.tinypic.com/2v81yj6.jpg Is that the SL-K? |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 8:16:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p226guy:
Is that the SL-K? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p226guy:
Originally Posted By fatcat4620:
New stock came. Remind me if a car stock http://i65.tinypic.com/2v81yj6.jpg Is that the SL-K? Yes |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 8:35:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't use scopes, but I have accumulated a few, so I will try to start. All of them are Hakkos (Hakko Colt 4x20, Hakko 4x21, Hakko 4x21). The middle one is my favorite:
And a couple of my 20" babies: 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2016 9:05:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 64cyclone]
[#11]
Plain and simple
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Posted: 2/26/2016 10:32:20 PM EDT
[#12]
You guys have cost me some money this past week!
Some old meets new. Small things I want to change: -Tear drop FA as I've never been much of a fan -A1 aperture for A2 as the A1 is so small -I love the A1 grip but my mottled one doesn't look right on this build. I can't believe the A2 even exists as the A1 is far superior. I'm going to try out the RRA below as a simple solution or I may find a newer looking A1.  |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 10:39:23 PM EDT
[#13]
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't.
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Posted: 2/26/2016 10:42:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. The one I bought was one without the hole for the safety detent Spring. I tried to drill it, fucked it up and now feel like an idiot.   Wish I hadn't as I really like them.
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Posted: 2/26/2016 10:55:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... |
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Posted: 2/26/2016 11:09:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... Boop. I ordered a couple of the ones marked "AR" and they had the detent spring hole. GTG. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/27/2016 2:03:31 AM EDT
[#17]
A work in progress. I just painted and assembled it tonight.
I'm going for the BHD Colt 727 look. I need a light and a carry handle rail to mount my aimpoint too. 
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Posted: 2/27/2016 12:50:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Jingle-16?
Been a long time since I've seen the old barrel mounts actually used, love the "feel" of the whole thing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Jingle-16?
Been a long time since I've seen the old barrel mounts actually used, love the "feel" of the whole thing! I was showing my 5-year-old how to shoot steel with it last night. Then we went blind on marshmallows and hot chocolate |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 12:52:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Boop. I ordered a couple of the ones marked "AR" and they had the detent spring hole. GTG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... Boop. I ordered a couple of the ones marked "AR" and they had the detent spring hole. GTG. Cool. Appreciate the link. |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 1:05:19 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BePhreed:
Cool. Appreciate the link. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BePhreed:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... Boop. I ordered a couple of the ones marked "AR" and they had the detent spring hole. GTG. Cool. Appreciate the link. For sure. I guess this can go in here; it's as KISS as I get... 
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Posted: 2/27/2016 4:51:06 PM EDT
[#21]
^ I'll be in my bunk.
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USA
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Posted: 2/27/2016 6:51:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
For sure. I guess this can go in here; it's as KISS as I get... http://i.imgur.com/U5b3G4h.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By BePhreed:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Try out the Lonestar Ordnance grip, if you haven't. Thanks for the tip. Always seen those but never noticed it was different than the A1. Now to find a source... Boop. I ordered a couple of the ones marked "AR" and they had the detent spring hole. GTG. Cool. Appreciate the link. For sure. I guess this can go in here; it's as KISS as I get... http://i.imgur.com/U5b3G4h.jpg That's really nice! |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 7:05:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2016 7:10:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistorySweet pair. I've always dug that AK and it is certainly is KISS. What is it? I'm a total AK novice. |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 8:55:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Sweet pair. I've always dug that AK and it is certainly is KISS. What is it? I'm a total AK novice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Sweet pair. I've always dug that AK and it is certainly is KISS. What is it? I'm a total AK novice. Romanian Draco pistol which is based on the Romanian PM md. 90 carbine. |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 8:58:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#26]
Quote HistoryVery nice. I need an AK SBR. |
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Posted: 2/27/2016 11:42:27 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote Historyyup what everyone else said 
i'm pretty much ak illiterate but that one makes me berries tingle |
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Posted: 2/28/2016 12:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper: yup what everyone else said i'm pretty much ak illiterate but that one makes me berries tingle Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper: yup what everyone else said i'm pretty much ak illiterate but that one makes me berries tingle Yup. I don't know what I'm looking at but I like what I see. Question regarding sight apertures: What should I replace the A1 with? A2? I see some aftermarket options as well. I don't anticipate doing much long range or precision based shooting with this rifle. It's just going to be a blaster. |
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Posted: 2/28/2016 9:45:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Went w/t Colt A1 skinny grip "pre '69" light mottling......
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2016 9:48:04 PM EDT
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TN, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2016 10:36:48 PM EDT
[#31]
This is as KISS as I like to built my guns. I ended up putting this together with a bunch of spare parts I had laying around... This one stays in my truck.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2016 1:07:23 AM EDT
[#32]
I may have posted these at some point before. This is a picture from when I was on an IDF base four years ago.
Technically not a clone as it is the real deal. 
More about the rifle was posted here in the Retro forum. |
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Posted: 3/3/2016 10:32:53 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZMan941: I may have posted these at some point before. This is a picture from when I was on an IDF base four years ago. Technically not a clone as it is the real deal. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/Squeethm/Israel%20Trip/Israeli%20Tanker%20M16%20-%20Cleaning%20Cropped_zpsq9xaib5p.jpg More about the rifle was posted here in the Retro forum. 10.5" barrel? |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2016 3:34:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
10.5" barrel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By ZMan941:
I may have posted these at some point before. This is a picture from when I was on an IDF base four years ago. Technically not a clone as it is the real deal. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/Squeethm/Israel%20Trip/Israeli%20Tanker%20M16%20-%20Cleaning%20Cropped_zpsq9xaib5p.jpg More about the rifle was posted here in the Retro forum. 10.5" barrel? I don't know for absolute sure, but they were about that length. I believe they were Colt 653's originally. |
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Posted: 3/3/2016 9:45:57 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Yup. I don't know what I'm looking at but I like what I see. Question regarding sight apertures: What should I replace the A1 with? A2? I see some aftermarket options as well. I don't anticipate doing much long range or precision based shooting with this rifle. It's just going to be a blaster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RussellAthletic:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
yup what everyone else said
i'm pretty much ak illiterate but that one makes me berries tingle Yup. I don't know what I'm looking at but I like what I see. Question regarding sight apertures: What should I replace the A1 with? A2? I see some aftermarket options as well. I don't anticipate doing much long range or precision based shooting with this rifle. It's just going to be a blaster. i usually leave the a1 apertures in and sight them accordingly. i know alot of people switch over to the a2 apertures and sight in similar to their other guns , either a 100 or 50 m zero. |
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Posted: 3/6/2016 7:34:13 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2016 10:18:19 PM EDT
[#37]
I love this thing, Some day I would like to swap the upper out to an a2.
 20160224_201104-01 by T B, on Flickr
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Posted: 3/11/2016 8:32:52 PM EDT
[#38]
Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2016 10:44:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TannerB:
I love this thing, Some day I would like to swap the upper out to an a2. <a href="https://flic.kr/p/E8yjAr" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1666/25027078789_bf57f49e2e_c.jpg</a>20160224_201104-01 by T B, on Flickr That is an awesome rig. 
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Posted: 3/12/2016 1:57:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 25Chuck: Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/20160310_125341_zpshxs6jbhm.jpg Ya did well! Now see how long you can go without SBR'ing the lower and chopping the barrel. I lasted about a month. Here's mine (before):  After:  |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 10:27:38 AM EDT
[#41]
Got my upper wrapped up. This is a placeholder lower until its permanent home is approved. Gemtech Trek on the end which normally goes on the recce. I can't believe how handy this thing feels. I need a sling and I think it's done.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 10:55:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 25Chuck: I'm fighting it already! The only reason I didn't SBR it from the start is because I'd like to switch the Anderson lower out for a NDS before registering it. What length did you go with, 12.5? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 25Chuck: Originally Posted By PFran42: Originally Posted By 25Chuck: Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/20160310_125341_zpshxs6jbhm.jpg Ya did well! Now see how long you can go without SBR'ing the lower and chopping the barrel. I lasted about a month. <snip> I'm fighting it already! The only reason I didn't SBR it from the start is because I'd like to switch the Anderson lower out for a NDS before registering it. What length did you go with, 12.5? A little under 13". I had it done like the real thing. If I remember correctly, you leave a little bit of the old FSB shoulder from a 20" M16A1 barrel which acts as the shoulder for the crush washer after the barrel chop. Look up John Thomas if you want to get as accurate as possible (cloning the M16A1 Israeli chop downs). |
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Posted: 3/13/2016 12:29:26 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
A little under 13". I had it done like the real thing. If I remember correctly, you leave a little bit of the old FSB shoulder from a 20" M16A1 barrel which acts as the shoulder for the crush washer after the barrel chop. Look up John Thomas if you want to get as accurate as possible (cloning the M16A1 Israeli chop downs). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/20160310_125341_zpshxs6jbhm.jpg Ya did well! Now see how long you can go without SBR'ing the lower and chopping the barrel. I lasted about a month. <snip> I'm fighting it already! The only reason I didn't SBR it from the start is because I'd like to switch the Anderson lower out for a NDS before registering it. What length did you go with, 12.5? A little under 13". I had it done like the real thing. If I remember correctly, you leave a little bit of the old FSB shoulder from a 20" M16A1 barrel which acts as the shoulder for the crush washer after the barrel chop. Look up John Thomas if you want to get as accurate as possible (cloning the M16A1 Israeli chop downs). With gas block sizes this does not compute |
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Posted: 3/13/2016 3:09:52 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fatcat4620:
With gas block sizes this does not compute Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fatcat4620:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/20160310_125341_zpshxs6jbhm.jpg Ya did well! Now see how long you can go without SBR'ing the lower and chopping the barrel. I lasted about a month. <snip> I'm fighting it already! The only reason I didn't SBR it from the start is because I'd like to switch the Anderson lower out for a NDS before registering it. What length did you go with, 12.5? A little under 13". I had it done like the real thing. If I remember correctly, you leave a little bit of the old FSB shoulder from a 20" M16A1 barrel which acts as the shoulder for the crush washer after the barrel chop. Look up John Thomas if you want to get as accurate as possible (cloning the M16A1 Israeli chop downs). With gas block sizes this does not compute google "idf menusar" 
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CT, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2016 5:59:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Did the IDF ever adopt a A2 upper?
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Posted: 3/14/2016 6:55:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rigger7:
Did the IDF ever adopt a A2 upper? google idf rifles and i'm sure you'll spot some , they just weren't as common as a1's. added a little fun to my nodak lower 
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Posted: 3/16/2016 7:53:28 AM EDT
[#48]
For anybody interested, got a used Colt 2 position tube in grey at the shop. Will get some pics when I go in.
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Posted: 3/16/2016 9:28:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mech4matsnova]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rigger7:
Did the IDF ever adopt a A2 upper? Yes, they have some, but they are not common. There's probably more flattops now than A2s. A1/C7 is where it's at for clones. ETA: I found a pic but photardbucket is acting fucky. IDF Carbine website |
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Posted: 3/16/2016 12:06:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fatcat4620:
With gas block sizes this does not compute Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fatcat4620:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By 25Chuck:
Almost done, I've got a set of handguard bands on the way from Zahal. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/25chuck/Weapons/20160310_125341_zpshxs6jbhm.jpg Ya did well! Now see how long you can go without SBR'ing the lower and chopping the barrel. I lasted about a month. <snip> I'm fighting it already! The only reason I didn't SBR it from the start is because I'd like to switch the Anderson lower out for a NDS before registering it. What length did you go with, 12.5? A little under 13". I had it done like the real thing. If I remember correctly, you leave a little bit of the old FSB shoulder from a 20" M16A1 barrel which acts as the shoulder for the crush washer after the barrel chop. Look up John Thomas if you want to get as accurate as possible (cloning the M16A1 Israeli chop downs). With gas block sizes this does not compute If the barrel is on the thicker side of the tolerance range, there is enough material to make a 13" carbine length barrel from an M16A1 barrel. There just won't be the large shoulder behind the FSB like on a factory carbine barrel. |
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