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Micron

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Posted: 2/17/2018 8:34:28 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By vwfred69:
I just finished my wife’s build and it came in at 4.53lb. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/vwfred69/8506428E-56FE-4493-A0E7-54660083BAED.jpg" target="_blank">http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/vwfred69/8506428E-56FE-4493-A0E7-54660083BAED.jpg

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Looks good! What handgaurd is that? Is it 15" and whats it weigh in at if you don't mind me asking?

withoutremorse42 Joined Mar 2016 Posts 62 EE 100% (17) OR, USA	Posted: 2/17/2018 6:35:12 PM EDT [Last Edit: withoutremorse42] [#2] Took my 4.09 lb rifle out, averaged 1.5-2 MOA with a semi-stable shooting platform. Replaced the grip with the Hogue, should be a hair under the 4lb mark now weight is before the 11oz suppressor or ACOG. Usually has a vortex venom MRDS on it, under 5lbs with suppressor and optic

hfrog355 Member Joined Sep 2014 Posts 696 EE 99% (89) TX, USA	Posted: 2/17/2018 7:05:32 PM EDT [#3] I'm looking to get rid of a V7 Ultra Light S7 Tool Steel bolt catch. Anyone need one?

withoutremorse42 Joined Mar 2016 Posts 63 EE 100% (17) OR, USA	Posted: 2/19/2018 8:48:11 PM EDT [#4] Here's the article with photos detailing the 4.09 lb rifl's range performance https://loadoutroom.com/44182/ultralight-ar-15-ver-2-0-final-testing/

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Posted: 2/19/2018 10:05:46 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By withoutremorse42:
Here's the article with photos detailing the 4.09 lb rifl's range performance

https://loadoutroom.com/44182/ultralight-ar-15-ver-2-0-final-testing/

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hey man, good article! Thanks for the PWD plug too. I'm a data guy, not a promoter, so that kind of help is ALWAYS appreciated.

The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

jekbrown

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Posted: 2/20/2018 2:35:27 AM EDT

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thinking about putting my LW Faxon (steel) carrier in my DMR build (needs a diet) and running an aluminum carrier in my LW SBR build. What's actually available and not a million dollars? I would just use the PWD but I seem to remember that there was a company out there with a vaporware aluminum carrier and I don't want to get screwed over...

The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

larrys

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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:09:02 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By withoutremorse42:
Took my 4.09 lb rifle out, averaged 1.5-2 MOA with a semi-stable shooting platform. Replaced the grip with the Hogue, should be a hair under the 4lb mark now

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m563/withoutremorse42/20180206_102612.jpg

weight is before the 11oz suppressor or ACOG. Usually has a vortex venom MRDS on it, under 5lbs with suppressor and optic

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Excellent article! Good work on the build, 4 lbs with off the shelf parts is an accomplishment! And with an adjustable stock too.

withoutremorse42

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Posted: 2/20/2018 4:25:08 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By jekbrown:

hey man, good article! Thanks for the PWD plug too. I'm a data guy, not a promoter, so that kind of help is ALWAYS appreciated.

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No problem! The PWD is an awesome resource, the kind of asset that can save people a ton of time and money. It also showed me a few products/manufacturers I hadn't heard of before (a la Sintercore), which is good for smaller businesses

withoutremorse42 Joined Mar 2016 Posts 65 EE 100% (17) OR, USA	Posted: 2/20/2018 4:40:07 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By larrys: Excellent article! Good work on the build, 4 lbs with off the shelf parts is an accomplishment! And with an adjustable stock too. View Quote Thanks! Using the PWD I've figured how to shave another quarter pound (or so), but after that it's down to removing material or losing functionality.

Micron

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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:20:10 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
thinking about putting my LW Faxon (steel) carrier in my DMR build (needs a diet) and running an aluminum carrier in my LW SBR build. What's actually available and not a million dollars? I would just use the PWD but I seem to remember that there was a company out there with a vaporware aluminum carrier and I don't want to get screwed over...

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I am one of the "Vaporcarrier" victims! Lol. Yes don't do it! (Breastroker) mentioned a company I never heard of "Surmount Defense" They have a Aluminum bolt carrier setup for around $180 which seems reasonable but they have been out of stock for a while, I emailed them and to my surprise they emailed me back the same day! But I asked if they could give me a date they would be in stock and they said they are having anodizing issues and wouldn't be stocked until issue's resolved. He did say a company by the name "Makereadyproshop.com" may have some in stock. Another company I never heard of and I never checked them out.

I am going to try a Aluminum carrier myself but they sure seem hard to come by under 3 or 4 hun for some reason!

Good luck to you and thanks for all your work here!

jekbrown Member Joined Feb 2004 Posts 13230 EE 100% (59) WA, USA	Posted: 2/21/2018 7:35:41 PM EDT [#11] hmmm, didn't have surmount defense in the PWD...but they're in there now! How about the Shootings Innovations offering? looks legit...
	The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

Micron

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Posted: 2/21/2018 9:17:58 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
hmmm, didn't have surmount defense in the PWD...but they're in there now! How about the Shootings Innovations offering? looks legit...

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Yes I forgot to mention that one, thats one of the others Im considering, I don't know much about it really but at the price I wouldn't bother me to much if it doesn't last as long I might wish! I will likely make a decision any day now and order one! How about youAre you favouring one yet?

vwfred69

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Posted: 2/21/2018 9:27:46 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Micron:
Looks good! What handgaurd is that? Is it 15" and whats it weigh in at if you don't mind me asking?

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Originally Posted By vwfred69:
I just finished my wife’s build and it came in at 4.53lb. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/vwfred69/8506428E-56FE-4493-A0E7-54660083BAED.jpg" target="_blank">http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/vwfred69/8506428E-56FE-4493-A0E7-54660083BAED.jpg

Looks good! What handgaurd is that? Is it 15" and whats it weigh in at if you don't mind me asking?

Odin o2 lite 12.5”. 8.1oz with hardware

somedude Member Joined Feb 2006 Posts 7431 EE 100% (37) FL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2018 10:04:37 PM EDT [Last Edit: somedude] [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By jekbrown: hmmm, didn't have surmount defense in the PWD..but they're in there now! How about the Shootings Innovations offering? looks legit... View Quote link for info?
	"Let's eat Grandma! Let's eat, Grandma! Commas, because your poor grandmother shouldn't be cannibalized." -Chapman

jekbrown Member Joined Feb 2004 Posts 13246 EE 100% (59) WA, USA	Posted: 2/21/2018 10:07:44 PM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By somedude: link for info? View Quote link is in my sig.
	The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

somedude Member Joined Feb 2006 Posts 7432 EE 100% (37) FL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2018 10:26:02 PM EDT [#16] oops, kinda cool. that is a lot of work.
	"Let's eat Grandma! Let's eat, Grandma! Commas, because your poor grandmother shouldn't be cannibalized." -Chapman

pscot468 Joined May 2017 Posts 280 EE 0% (0) SC, USA	Posted: 2/22/2018 4:57:08 AM EDT [#17] Well i've ordered 2 of the future forged sg-2 grips. First thing on the thread i've seen in a while that's caught my eye. I think i've purchased all the other lightweight stuff already!!! And my bank account shows it... :/

Micron

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Posted: 2/22/2018 8:50:43 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By pscot468:
Well i've ordered 2 of the future forged sg-2 grips. First thing on the thread i've seen in a while that's caught my eye. I think i've purchased all the other lightweight stuff already!!! And my bank account shows it... :/

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Lol! I just got two of my work buddy's into AR's a few weeks ago and there both ordering parts like a pro! Great hobby gun$!

larrys

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Posted: 2/22/2018 10:56:17 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By pscot468:
Well i've ordered 2 of the future forged sg-2 grips. First thing on the thread i've seen in a while that's caught my eye. I think i've purchased all the other lightweight stuff already!!! And my bank account shows it... :/

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I ordered one of the black ones on 2/15. Shipping notice came late yesterday.

I hear you guys on the cost of this hobby, amazing what a little chunk of metal or plastic can cost! But in comparison to some of my other hobbies it’s reasonable. When I used to have a boat it cost close to $500 just to fill the fuel tank. God forbid the thing breaks down!!

SOCOM76 Joined Jul 2011 Posts 562 EE 100% (99) NV, USA	Posted: 2/22/2018 6:03:18 PM EDT [#20] Anyone else into 22LR? I probably have 14K rounds of 22LR ammo between 2 rifles, and was thinking about converting one of my Balios rifles into an AR22.

hfrog355 Member Joined Sep 2014 Posts 704 EE 99% (89) TX, USA	Posted: 2/22/2018 11:16:49 PM EDT [#21] Quote History Originally Posted By SOCOM76: Anyone else into 22LR? I probably have 14K rounds of 22LR ammo between 2 rifles, and was thinking about converting one of my Balios rifles into an AR22. View Quote 2A just came out with some slick looking 22LR stuff.

BKKJ Joined May 2017 Posts 7 EE 0% (0) ND, USA	Posted: 2/23/2018 11:16:05 AM EDT [#22] A new Halosun for the PWD. It fits RMR mounts. 2.65 oz but I'd guess that's with the mount. Maybe even a battery. and get this 100,000 hour battery life off a CR 2032 in the right mode. Probably won't work for me though, stinking astigmatism. https://holosun.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=61

Micron

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Posted: 2/23/2018 2:10:34 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By BKKJ:
A new Halosun for the PWD. It fits RMR mounts.

2.65 oz but I'd guess that's with the mount. Maybe even a battery.

and get this 100,000 hour battery life off a CR 2032 in the right mode.

Probably won't work for me though, stinking astigmatism.

https://holosun.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=61

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Oh I like that thing! Thanks for sharing!
I can just picture me looking through it now!

jekbrown Member Joined Feb 2004 Posts 13276 EE 100% (59) WA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2018 2:25:43 PM EDT [#24] i think someone just crashed the holosun www site...I can't access anything there. It just says "ERROR 0071: There appears to be a problem with the database. Maintenance is required." no matter what holosun page I try to go to...or what browser I use.
	The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

PursuitSS ...believe in me, I'm with the High Command. Joined May 2006 Posts 11739 EE 100% (35) MO, USA	Posted: 2/23/2018 2:55:44 PM EDT [#25] Lots of information on Primary Arms web site on HOLOSUN Link
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November5 Sultan of Swag Joined Oct 2008 Posts 30031 EE 100% (39) MD, USA	Posted: 2/23/2018 9:16:44 PM EDT [#26] Brownells is now carrying the Shield RMS https://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/electronic-sights/reflex-sights/reflex-mini-sight-prod102336.aspx
	cola-warrior.com #teamemily

jekbrown Member Joined Feb 2004 Posts 13282 EE 100% (59) WA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2018 11:18:50 PM EDT [#27] nice! 'bout time too. They've had them in out of stock mode forever. Hella light optic.
	The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

SOCOM76 Joined Jul 2011 Posts 563 EE 100% (99) NV, USA	Posted: 2/25/2018 1:01:50 PM EDT [#28] RMS didn't get the greatest review from Sage Dynamics.

larrys Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 263 EE 100% (13) FL, USA	Posted: 2/26/2018 6:55:18 PM EDT [Last Edit: larrys] [#29] Future Forged grip came in. A little more than 1.2. My scale had it at 1.3oz. Please forgive the crappy cell phone pics

PursuitSS ...believe in me, I'm with the High Command. Joined May 2006 Posts 11758 EE 100% (35) MO, USA	Posted: 2/26/2018 8:29:52 PM EDT [#30] Fugly but light.
	"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive" ___________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

blAck_Rice

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Posted: 2/26/2018 9:11:24 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By larrys:
Future Forged grip came in.

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So...how hard was it to screw down? Was it the ol' Austin Powers 42-point turn, or is there an undocumented straight line approach through the bottom of the grip?

Edit: That is pretty cool that they weigh each one that goes out and include a customized card.

larrys

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Posted: 2/26/2018 9:41:22 PM EDT

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I agree, not pretty but it’s growing on me. I do like the feel of it but it would look better if they straightened out the back strap some. I do like the way that arch feels in the hand.

They could absolutely put a hole in the bottom to make installation easier. It was a breeze running the screw down with a ball end hex wrench though. I then snugged it up with the short end of the wrench. I used an aluminum screw in place of the steel one they supplied.

The grip has a rough texture which feels really “grippy” and the finger grooves fit me perfectly. I like it a lot. Once I get it to the range I’ll have a better idea how I’ll like it in use.

breastroker Joined Mar 2012 Posts 309 EE 100% (1) NV, USA	Posted: 2/28/2018 8:18:15 PM EDT [#33] Two new weights, both Lantac Lantac bolt carrier pin @ 0.2660 ounces Lantac side charger upper receiver 11.30 ounces.

pscot468 Joined May 2017 Posts 281 EE 0% (0) SC, USA	Posted: 3/2/2018 12:57:23 AM EDT [#34] I got my future forged grips today too. They were a serious pain to install!!! Especially in my tegra lower. Plastic threads suck!!! It's on the 223 and the 308 now though, I like the feel of them and they look very cool. Forgot to get them on the scale but they are VERY light. Definitely had less weight to it than the hogue 15 degree grips they replaced.

jekbrown Member Joined Feb 2004 Posts 13345 EE 100% (59) WA, USA	Posted: 3/2/2018 3:10:11 AM EDT [#35] Just an FYI to everyone: my class is over, so pwd updates should be a bit quicker than they have been the last 2 months. 12-14 hour days really puts a crimp on the style.
	The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing

BKKJ

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Posted: 3/2/2018 7:08:32 PM EDT

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Good to have you back Jek,

I'm waiting on strike suppressor compatible version of their phantom. Guessing it'll be like the normal phantom with more holes and lighter. May also do something like Fortis did below if I really want to cut it to nothing.

https://fortismfg.com/charginghandle/ar15-charginghandle-clutch-rh

Also, who VERY patiently waiting for Fostech to release there Fighter UL Uppers? 4.2 oz at an MSRP of $100... supposedly summer 2018.

Maybe some day I'll get to finish my AR-15 LW project...

In the mean time, saving for a Xanthos set.

Also, for the hardware section Fortis Ft mounting cross bolts are 8-32 x 1/2 socket head cap screws. Got a couple in Ti!

Luv863

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Posted: 3/4/2018 1:07:20 PM EDT

[Last Edit: Luv863] [#37]

Where are you guys getting the aluminum grip screws from? I only found some nylon screws that would fit on ebay but I don't trust those. I think the nylon screw would hold the grip but I'm afraid I would over torque it and snap the head off or strip the screw inside the receiver. I just ordered a 2a RBC as well so if any one is looking for an aluminum bolt carrier I have a stripped whiskey arms bolt carrier that retails for $237 I don't need any more, just throw me an offer. I used it for around 150 rounds with a metal trigger so it has normal aluminum carrier wear on the bottom from the hammer before switching to a polymer trigger but the rest of the carrier looks great. This is what the wear looks like http://s292.photobucket.com/user/Luv863/media/image2_zpso6gbpp04.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

larrys Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 267 EE 100% (13) FL, USA	Posted: 3/4/2018 2:51:19 PM EDT [#38] 1/4-20x1 aluminum socket head I bookmarked this awhile ago but haven’t ordered yet. Probably a few here that would split an order

breastroker Joined Mar 2012 Posts 310 EE 100% (1) NV, USA	Posted: 3/5/2018 1:28:14 AM EDT [#39] Send me a padded stamped return envelope and one forever stamp for me and I will send you one 1/2" and one 3/4" aluminum pistol grip screw in return. I have an extra 6 of each. I just ordered $80 worth of titanium bolts from Ti64, they make it so easy. I paid $8.99 for one screw to lighten my walnut pistol grip LOL

PursuitSS ...believe in me, I'm with the High Command. Joined May 2006 Posts 11790 EE 100% (35) MO, USA	Posted: 3/6/2018 12:10:09 PM EDT [#40] SJC Titan Titanium Comp, IIRC I’ve seen reports of this weighing around 2.2 ounces, it appears they were WAY off.
	"When trading bullets it is better to give than to receive" ___________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

martin_q Joined Oct 2016 Posts 20 EE 0% (0) AUT	Posted: 3/6/2018 1:59:52 PM EDT [#41] Holosun 503GU Elite with battery, high mount with screws both in g and in oz:

pscot468

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Posted: 3/10/2018 2:42:41 PM EDT

[Last Edit: pscot468] [#42]

Well i took the bcm magnesium kmr 10 without the anti rotation plate, with v7 Ti blocks, v7 sling mount, and black label holsters aluminum barrel nut. It came out to be 1 gram less than my shiny new 11.1 in v7 handguard with titanium bolts. So should i rejoice at already having the lightest weight keymod handguard or be pissed that i bought this now lightly used v7 handguard?

pscot468

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Posted: 3/10/2018 2:44:51 PM EDT

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On another note the v7 308 hyperlight isn't compatible with any qd sling i've been able to find. I'm using a faxon pencil barrel and the barrel is just barely too thick. I'm gonna dremel down the nub on my magpul ms4 sling. It won't take much, but i think this is an oversight by v7. Where's everybody at? Lol, btw breaststroker, v7 now has enhanced 308 cam pins!

somedude

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Posted: 3/10/2018 3:35:12 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By larrys:
Future Forged grip came in. A little more than 1.2. My scale had it at 1.3oz.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4p28rbzmj3erz9h/Photo%20Feb%2026%2C%205%2013%2007%20PM.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/64xvrapdm9lc3p0/Photo%20Feb%2026%2C%205%2042%2031%20PM.jpg?raw=1

Please forgive the crappy cell phone pics

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you shot it with that grip yet? just curious how it feels after a mag or two.

"Let's eat Grandma!
Let's eat, Grandma!
Commas, because your poor grandmother shouldn't be cannibalized." -Chapman

larrys Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 276 EE 100% (13) FL, USA	Posted: 3/10/2018 6:11:18 PM EDT [#45] Quote History Originally Posted By somedude: you shot it with that grip yet? just curious how it feels after a mag or two. View Quote Have not. I really need to get to the range to try it out.

pscot468 Joined May 2017 Posts 284 EE 0% (0) SC, USA	Posted: 3/11/2018 11:04:43 PM EDT [#46] I haven't shot either of mine yet with the future forged grips. They seem to be made for some creature with humongous hands! I have medium sized hands though and i can still find a comfortable grip so that's something.

bentoduluth Joined Feb 2014 Posts 23 EE 100% (8) MN, USA	Posted: 3/12/2018 8:20:15 PM EDT [#47] Does ayone happen to know the weight of The SD tactical titanium muzzle brake? Looking for something to pin and weld to a 14.5 and I like the option of attaching one of their pig covers to minimize concussion.

eodinert Member Joined Apr 2001 Posts 4414 EE 0% (0) SOM	Posted: 3/13/2018 6:23:55 AM EDT [Last Edit: eodinert] [#48] Anyone have any idea what this setup is? I don't recognize it. Looks light. Screen grabs from a SHOT show vid I watched. Attached File Attached File Attached File

JerDerv

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Posted: 3/13/2018 9:47:32 AM EDT

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I wonder what the failure mode is when force is applied to the rear of the sight. Looks pretty poorly designed but I could be wrong. Wonder if the manufacture has done any testing.

While you are looking at mounts for micro red dots, check out master of arms 3D printed titanium mount.
https://www.masterofarms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=52&products_id=74

Luv863 Joined Mar 2015 Posts 30 EE 100% (2) FL, USA	Posted: 3/13/2018 10:49:54 AM EDT [#50] I came up with Desert Tech after some googling. https://deserttech.com/optics.php?item=2235

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