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Posted: 12/26/2017 4:08:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Are they all still marked carbine? |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 4:25:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tengo1:
No. "AR-15A4, Cal 5.56mm" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tengo1:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Are they all still marked carbine? Maybe in the spring. |
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Posted: 12/27/2017 11:32:11 AM EDT
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Recruits of India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, trek toward their next mark during the Land Navigation Course at Edson Range, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif., Dec. 12. Prior to starting the event, recruits received classes on land navigation techniques and how to properly use a map and compass while out in the field. Annually, more than 17,000 males recruited from the Western Recruiting Region are trained at MCRD San Diego. India Company is scheduled to graduate Jan. 19<br style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">( Photo by: Lance Cpl. Austin B. Sowles) |
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Posted: 12/28/2017 7:37:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/28/2017 7:38:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2017 4:40:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Superb pics.
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Posted: 12/29/2017 6:52:12 AM EDT
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Great pictures thanks, this thread is hard on my wallet and plans!
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Posted: 12/29/2017 11:33:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Superb pics. |
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Posted: 12/30/2017 4:52:13 AM EDT
[#9]
Questions about slings
What's the correct way to mount my Vickers sling? I assume a mag pouch on the rear, but which? |
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Posted: 12/30/2017 8:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Both MCRD Parris Island and San Diego have an awesome cadre of photographers that take pictures of recruits going through boot camp. When my son went through Parris Island we got some fantastic pictures of him during snap in or grass week and while on the Range. |
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Posted: 12/30/2017 10:08:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By endermend:
Questions about slings What's the correct way to mount my Vickers sling? I assume a mag pouch on the rear, but which? |
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Posted: 12/30/2017 2:21:30 PM EDT
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This thread was an inspiration
The A4 was my absolute favorite rifle to shoot in basic. The wife unit just bought me a Aero M16A4 marked lower for Christmas, and I've had a KAC M5 RAS laying around for the better part of a year. |
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Posted: 12/30/2017 2:31:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By endermend:
Questions about slings What's the correct way to mount my Vickers sling? I assume a mag pouch on the rear, but which? |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 1:46:54 PM EDT
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Back into the A4 game... Started parting out my last a4 until I had the complete lower, and barreled upper lol good job right? I found a zombie "Green" 2005 KAC m5 ras for 20 bucks at a local fleemarket not long ago..... Guy said it wasn't stripped so into a bucket of laquer thinner it went... Low and behold it had been sand blasted.... FML, and I swear flat black for some reason doesn't feel like flat black anymore so I went with Coyote Alumhyde I had left over. Stil had my old rail covers so I dropped them on as well.
Picked up a TA01 with cross hair from the EE.... Upper is a BCM, lower PSA with BCM PNT trigger, Stock is White Oak Armament A2 stock and specter sling. Still need a BUIS, not sure if I want to go with a correct Matech or KAC or just get something different due to it not being right anyways.... 
Last gun I will build or buy for a while, grad school starts in August..... |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 7:37:17 PM EDT
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Lots of A4 action:
 Australian Soldiers and US Marines Intense Military Combat Training |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 8:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InternationalM:
Back into the A4 game... Started parting out my last a4 until I had the complete lower, and barreled upper lol good job right? I found a zombie "Green" 2005 KAC m5 ras for 20 bucks at a local fleemarket not long ago..... Guy said it wasn't stripped so into a bucket of laquer thinner it went... Low and behold it had been sand blasted.... FML, and I swear flat black for some reason doesn't feel like flat black anymore so I went with Coyote Alumhyde I had left over. Stil had my old rail covers so I dropped them on as well. Picked up a TA01 with cross hair from the EE.... Upper is a BCM, lower PSA with BCM PNT trigger, Stock is White Oak Armament A2 stock and specter sling. Still need a BUIS, not sure if I want to go with a correct Matech or KAC or just get something different due to it not being right anyways.... https://i.imgur.com/l0Z5LVx.jpg Last gun I will build or buy for a while, grad school starts in August..... |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 8:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666: About your Specter Gear sling, the part that wraps around the rail is that part of the sling or an additional item ordered separately? |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 10:59:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: endermend]
[#18]
Good Deal?
FN Upper with FN forge code, P&S M5 RAS, FN Barrel marked 3S679 MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 dated 2013, and Matech rear sight. Also comes with a FN BCG for 650$ all new parts. Edit: also has FH, and CH of course. |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 11:13:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By endermend:
Good Deal? FN Upper with FN forge code, P&S M5 RAS, FN Barrel marked 3S679 MP 5.56 NATO 1/7 dated 2013, and Matech rear sight. Also comes with a FN BCG for 650$ all new parts. FN barrel- $250 FN upper - $125 P&S RAS- $100 Matech- $50 FN BCG- $125 Offer him $550, if he says no i would offer $600. I think id max my offer out at 6 tho unless you want it bad enough to pay full (but fair) price. |
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Posted: 1/1/2018 7:59:38 PM EDT
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Can I drill out the matech aperture to match the same size as the larger peep on the carry handle. I have both but cant use the matech due to astigmatism making it hard to see. Would this cause it to be unusable ?
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Posted: 1/1/2018 8:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Can I drill out the matech aperture to match the same size as the larger peep on the carry handle. I have both but cant use the matech due to astigmatism making it hard to see. Would this cause it to be unusable ? |
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Posted: 1/1/2018 9:20:17 PM EDT
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Thanks. Everything I can find is for Garands and M1A which I also have but its for the reverse and making them smaller! No idea how people see through this
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Posted: 1/1/2018 9:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Can I drill out the matech aperture to match the same size as the larger peep on the carry handle. I have both but cant use the matech due to astigmatism making it hard to see. Would this cause it to be unusable ? |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:20:57 AM EDT
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What mounts are the USMC using for their RCOs currently?
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:28:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Can I drill out the matech aperture to match the same size as the larger peep on the carry handle. I have both but cant use the matech due to astigmatism making it hard to see. Would this cause it to be unusable ? I have astigmatism as well and I prefer the smaller apertures. Red dots are kind of a mess but if I look at the dot through a small aperture, it crispens the dot greatly. I prefer small aperture shooting plain irons though |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:52:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lafmedic1:
Thanks. Everything I can find is for Garands and M1A which I also have but its for the reverse and making them smaller! No idea how people see through this CD |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:11:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryMan the AUG is one good looking rifle.
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Posted: 1/4/2018 11:23:53 AM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:05:50 PM EDT
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My apologies if this info is buried somewhere in all these pages, but does anyone know the rough timeline for when the Army procured FN vs. Colt M16A4s? I was issued a brand new one back in early 2005 that I think was an FN, but I wasn’t paying too close attention to those things back then. I have a vague memory of thinking that it was interesting that it wasn’t a Colt, but I could also be thinking of an M4 I saw around the same time or something.
I’d like to eventually build a clone of that rifle and would prefer a Colt, but I’d also be open to the idea of trying to build a more correct FN. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:16:11 PM EDT
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Couldn't say just when FN entered the mix. But, both Colt and FN offer A4 models. The FN Military Collector M16 has almost everything you need...at a steep price.
Personally, I'd look for the Colt, then source a RAS M5 and what else. Colt reintroduced the A4 after I built mine. I love BCM, but it's not "correct". |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 1:20:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3ACR_Scout]
[#31]
Yeah, I’m definitely leaning towards Colt - just wish they could have put “M16A4” on theirs (not a big deal, but would have been nice). My issue with the FN military collector rifle is that the roll mark is different (if I’m going for a clone, might as well get it as close as possible), and my rifle back then didn’t have a UID tag or an ambidextrous selector, so I’d kind of be paying extra for things I didn’t want (even if I could remove them). Mine actually didn’t even have a RAS on it when I was first issued it. I had to scrounge for one of those after we deployed. In the end, all I did was put rail panels and a VFG on it (we didn’t have weapon lights back then), so I pretty much added a bunch of weight that I didn’t use.
I’m not normally that fixated on details, but if I’m going to the effort of trying to clone a rifle for sentimental reasons and spending good money on it, I’d like to get it as close as possible. If I can’t get that close, then maybe buying a more affordable rifle (Colt) makes more sense. |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 11:20:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
My apologies if this info is buried somewhere in all these pages, but does anyone know the rough timeline for when the Army procured FN vs. Colt M16A4s? I was issued a brand new one back in early 2005 that I think was an FN, but I wasn’t paying too close attention to those things back then. I have a vague memory of thinking that it was interesting that it wasn’t a Colt, but I could also be thinking of an M4 I saw around the same time or something. I’d like to eventually build a clone of that rifle and would prefer a Colt, but I’d also be open to the idea of trying to build a more correct FN. I would say that if you received a brand new rifle in 2005, it was most likely FNMI (unless it was "new old stock"). Not to mention any M4 you would have been likely to see around that time would most likely be Colt (sole-source manufacturer from 1994-2013, though some FNMI lowers were converted to M4/M4A1 specs as well). ~Augee |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:47:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By endermend:
What mounts are the USMC using for their RCOs currently? |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 6:44:16 PM EDT
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A5ish, A4ish.
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Posted: 1/6/2018 9:25:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: endermend]
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PSA 20" FN CHF Uppers are in stock (They do have M4 Feed Ramps). I did IM PSA, and they told me that they might have round end caps or triangle end caps depending on what's available at the time.
319.99 without BCG/CH 399.99 w/ BCG/CH BTW, I kept this for a secret for a while. I bought a couple of these FN uppers from Damage Industries for 65$ with dust cover and forward assist. They have the F forge code, and I emailed and IM'd Damage Industries twice, and have been confirmed that all of these do have F marking. 102.35 with Dust Cover and Forward Assist 79.95 Stripped So if you want a "cheap" FN A4 style upper, you can get one for 319.99+ 79.95, re-barrel the upper and sell the PSA one for 50$ or so. Hope I was some help to someone 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 4:50:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3ACR_Scout]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
I would say that if you received a brand new rifle in 2005, it was most likely FNMI (unless it was "new old stock"). |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 8:27:47 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a link where I can get a UID sticker for my clone build?
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Posted: 1/7/2018 11:26:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Thanks for the reply, Augee. It was definitely a brand new rifle - I remember when the batch of ten showed up at the unit. I have a feeling I’ll have to go the Colt route, which certainly isn’t a bad thing. Making a good clone of an FN M16A4 from that era would probably be too difficult, since I’m pretty sure it had the older / classic style FN logo. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2018 11:02:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TREETOP:
A lot of the places that do SBR engraving can also do logos and whatever else you want on an 80% lower before the machining's been finished (while it's still a non-gun I mean). You can duplicate an older FN logo and even have M16A4 as the model number if you want. Does anyone have any photos of a 2004-2005 era FN M16A4 lower? I’m pretty sure the one I was issued had the traditional FN rollmark on it, but the only photo I have of mine is from the right side of the rifle. All the photos I’ve found online show the current simplified logo like on their military collector rifle. Can anyone confirm if they had the old logo on earlier production M16A4s? |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 1:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
My clone lineup, so far. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/180161/20180102_151536-410589.JPG |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 2:11:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
That's a nice family right there Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
My clone lineup, so far. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/180161/20180102_151536-410589.JPG |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 3:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Thanks. Up next, is my A2 clone, then A1 clone. Then, possibly a 727 clone. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:21:25 PM EDT
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I finally added the last piece: The blue force tactical sling and A2 buttstock adapter. It's finished.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:47:47 PM EDT
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Looking good! Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:49:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kteaton]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055836_1905408752820030_2543948969865638746_n.jpg?oh=caa933907dc5edb40e6756b317c23679&oe=5ABC64F3 Recruits of India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, trek toward their next mark during the Land Navigation Course at Edson Range, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif., Dec. 12. Prior to starting the event, recruits received classes on land navigation techniques and how to properly use a map and compass while out in the field. Annually, more than 17,000 males recruited from the Western Recruiting Region are trained at MCRD San Diego. India Company is scheduled to graduate Jan. 19<br style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">( Photo by: Lance Cpl. Austin B. Sowles) 
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Posted: 1/10/2018 4:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kteaton:
Is homeboy on the far right wearing his helmet backwards? Must be the LT. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kteaton:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055836_1905408752820030_2543948969865638746_n.jpg?oh=caa933907dc5edb40e6756b317c23679&oe=5ABC64F3 Recruits of India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, trek toward their next mark during the Land Navigation Course at Edson Range, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif., Dec. 12. Prior to starting the event, recruits received classes on land navigation techniques and how to properly use a map and compass while out in the field. Annually, more than 17,000 males recruited from the Western Recruiting Region are trained at MCRD San Diego. India Company is scheduled to graduate Jan. 19<br style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">( Photo by: Lance Cpl. Austin B. Sowles) |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 8:54:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kteaton:
Is homeboy on the far right wearing his helmet backwards? Must be the LT. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kteaton:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055836_1905408752820030_2543948969865638746_n.jpg?oh=caa933907dc5edb40e6756b317c23679&oe=5ABC64F3 Recruits of India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, trek toward their next mark during the Land Navigation Course at Edson Range, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif., Dec. 12. Prior to starting the event, recruits received classes on land navigation techniques and how to properly use a map and compass while out in the field. Annually, more than 17,000 males recruited from the Western Recruiting Region are trained at MCRD San Diego. India Company is scheduled to graduate Jan. 19<br style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">( Photo by: Lance Cpl. Austin B. Sowles) |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 3:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Since when is land nav done in boot camp? Question, are RAS's still obtainable cheap or do you have to spring for expensive now? |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 3:37:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Since when is land nav done in boot camp? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By kteaton:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055836_1905408752820030_2543948969865638746_n.jpg?oh=caa933907dc5edb40e6756b317c23679&oe=5ABC64F3 Recruits of India Company, 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, trek toward their next mark during the Land Navigation Course at Edson Range, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Calif., Dec. 12. Prior to starting the event, recruits received classes on land navigation techniques and how to properly use a map and compass while out in the field. Annually, more than 17,000 males recruited from the Western Recruiting Region are trained at MCRD San Diego. India Company is scheduled to graduate Jan. 19<br style="color: rgb(29, 33, 41); font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">( Photo by: Lance Cpl. Austin B. Sowles) Based on what my son told me, in that pic at the top of the page, that looks like BTW at Pendleton. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2018 5:46:06 PM EDT
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I bought my P&S M5 from Brownells a little less than a year ago for $99. Came with full panel kit.
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