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Posted: 11/29/2017 11:59:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: ckopp636]
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I wasnt aware of ambi safety having ever been issued on the m16a4 period. I removed the ambi from my colt and installed a regular colt safety
Im not sure if this has already been posted here, but i ran across this pic online earlier today. 
Pic was down, should be fixed now This is one of very few pics I have seen with bayonet attached 
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Posted: 11/30/2017 12:28:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
I wasnt aware of ambi safety having ever been issued on the m16a4 period. I removed the ambi from my colt and installed a regular colt safety Im not sure if this has already been posted here, but i ran across this pic online earlier today. https://i.imgur.com/ufwQWyg.jpg |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 11:03:52 AM EST
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For those looking for ACOGs, check Universal Mania. I bought mine from them a little over a year ago. Best price I could find, I think $1277, and received it within a week.
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Posted: 11/30/2017 2:16:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
For those looking for ACOGs, check Universal Mania. I bought mine from them a little over a year ago. Best price I could find, I think $1277, and received it within a week. That's why I went with Optics Agent, best price I could find. |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 2:22:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: Birddog1911]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
I saw them when I was looking for mine, but their 1 star review...lots of people complaining about getting ripped off. That's why I went with Optics Agent, best price I could find. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
For those looking for ACOGs, check Universal Mania. I bought mine from them a little over a year ago. Best price I could find, I think $1277, and received it within a week. That's why I went with Optics Agent, best price I could find. Now, the price is over $1400. 
ETA: I see that they're $1466 at OA as well. Damn, things really went high since I got mine. Guess when I complete my M4 clone, I'll be going M68 CCO instead. |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 2:27:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Hmm, wonder if things changed since I got mine. The scant reviews I found were favorable at the time. Now, the price is over $1400. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Originally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
For those looking for ACOGs, check Universal Mania. I bought mine from them a little over a year ago. Best price I could find, I think $1277, and received it within a week. That's why I went with Optics Agent, best price I could find. Now, the price is over $1400. The first 5 pages of reviews are nothing but negative. Optics Agent shows $1400, but you place it in the cart for the discount. The TA31RCO-A4 is $1256 at Optics Agent. |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 2:31:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: How has it been? The first 5 pages of reviews are nothing but negative. Optics Agent shows $1400, but you place it in the cart for the discount. The TA31RCO-A4 is $1256 at Optics Agent. Got mine 13 months ago. Maybe I just got lucky? |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 2:33:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Ah, didn't know about the discount; that's a good price. Got mine 13 months ago. Maybe I just got lucky? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911:
Originally Posted By Dog1: How has it been? The first 5 pages of reviews are nothing but negative. Optics Agent shows $1400, but you place it in the cart for the discount. The TA31RCO-A4 is $1256 at Optics Agent. Got mine 13 months ago. Maybe I just got lucky? Alot of those complaining are saying they cannot get refunds and have to contact their banks or card issuers. |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 6:20:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Pic no showey |
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Posted: 11/30/2017 7:18:35 PM EST
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As the A2 started to get replaced by the A4, did the uppers just get replaced or was it entire rifles?
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Posted: 11/30/2017 9:00:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
As the A2 started to get replaced by the A4, did the uppers just get replaced or was it entire rifles? |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2017 10:53:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Tengo1]
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So a guy is offering a FN Military Collector 20" A4 for my Colt 6920 SOCOM with M4A1 lower. I know brand new the FN is more expensive. However, unless Colt brings back the SOCOM line the M4A1 is very hard to get and people pay stupid prices just for the lower.
I really want a M16A4 clone, and had always planned on saving up for a Colt AR-15A4 and adding the knights rail myself. So what are your thoughts? Decent trade or am I crazy? * I should add it's one of the newer ones with Safe/Semi/Auto |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2017 12:52:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tengo1:
So a guy is offering a FN Military Collector 20" A4 for my Colt 6920 SOCOM with M4A1 lower. I know brand new the FN is more expensive. However, unless Colt brings back the SOCOM line the M4A1 is very hard to get and people pay stupid prices just for the lower. I really want a M16A4 clone, and had always planned on saving up for a Colt AR-15A4 and adding the knights rail myself. So what are your thoughts? Decent trade or am I crazy? * I should add it's one of the newer ones with Safe/Semi/Auto |
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Posted: 12/16/2017 1:18:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
As the A2 started to get replaced by the A4, did the uppers just get replaced or was it entire rifles? CD |
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Posted: 12/18/2017 10:54:29 AM EST
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:58:41 PM EST
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:15:21 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:11:15 PM EST
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Did anyone ever clarify if A4's were ever issued with an ambi selector? I know the new colt ones are reversible for lefties.
Pic thread Shiny lower! 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 4:21:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pothole:
Did anyone ever clarify if A4's were ever issued with an ambi selector? I know the new colt ones are reversible for lefties. Pic thread Shiny lower! https://farm1.static.flickr.com/285/19358576070_48f43ba7ff_b.jpg |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:26:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
I wasnt aware of ambi safety having ever been issued on the m16a4 period. I removed the ambi from my colt and installed a regular colt safety Im not sure if this has already been posted here, but i ran across this pic online earlier today. https://i.imgur.com/kdrllX3.jpg Pic was down, should be fixed now This is one of very few pics I have seen with bayonet attached https://i.imgur.com/3cU5mSY.jpg |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:30:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Triangle handguard cap on the first pic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By ckopp636:
I wasnt aware of ambi safety having ever been issued on the m16a4 period. I removed the ambi from my colt and installed a regular colt safety Im not sure if this has already been posted here, but i ran across this pic online earlier today. https://i.imgur.com/kdrllX3.jpg Pic was down, should be fixed now This is one of very few pics I have seen with bayonet attached https://i.imgur.com/3cU5mSY.jpg
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:35:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dog1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
They all use the triangle cap brother Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By ckopp636:
I wasnt aware of ambi safety having ever been issued on the m16a4 period. I removed the ambi from my colt and installed a regular colt safety Im not sure if this has already been posted here, but i ran across this pic online earlier today. https://i.imgur.com/kdrllX3.jpg Pic was down, should be fixed now This is one of very few pics I have seen with bayonet attached https://i.imgur.com/3cU5mSY.jpg I ask because the last factory built 20 in barreled rifle I had, came with a round handguard cap. It was an A2 Colt. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:46:13 PM EST
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Ive never seen a factory Colt rifle that didn't have a triangle end cap. Every A2 and A4 has them.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:50:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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All 20" M16's I've seen. Here's another A4 (might have to zoom in)
FN M16A2 bbl- 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:52:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311:
Ive never seen a factory Colt rifle that didn't have a triangle end cap. Every A2 and A4 has them. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:55:25 PM EST
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Could be some quirky commercial shit Colt pulled on the AR15A2. We know they like to dabble from time to time (I.E. sear blocks, odd sized FCG pins etc)
So I believe you. But their military models use the triangle cap |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 6:58:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Could be some quirky commercial shit Colt pulled on the AR15A2. We know they like to dabble from time to time (I.E. sear blocks, odd sized FCG pins etc) So I believe you. But their military models use the triangle cap As for the triangle handguard cap, I learned something today.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 7:13:36 PM EST
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Dog1, I've seen you here for a long time and got some respect for you. If it was anyone else I'd outright tell them they were wrong.
I'd suspect that you are remembering seeing the round tabs on the A2 handguards which would make it look round. But who knows, there are all sorts of oddities out there. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 8:05:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311:
Dog1, I've seen you here for a long time and got some respect for you. If it was anyone else I'd outright tell them they were wrong. I'd suspect that you are remembering seeing the round tabs on the A2 handguards which would make it look round. But who knows, there are all sorts of oddities out there. I have had so many AR's and built so many, they all run together. It's all good...
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USA
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Posted: 12/21/2017 11:21:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: pkk]
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I just finished my A4 clone. It started its life as a lowly PSA freedom rifle, but was totally dismantled. The good things were kept, but the bad and ugly are on armslist (if you're interested). However, I need a few things to complete it . . . But on a budget. I did sit on the Santa's lap at my local mall and asked him for an ACOG. It can't hurt, right? But an ACOG will probably never be a part of this particular rifle. I'm looking for a sling (2 point), mag pouch and bayonet. Can anyone point me to these items? But remember on a budget.
The rifle, as its pictured, has a Windham Weaponry Govt. Profile, 1.7 twist, chrome-lined barrel (they gave me 10% off and a free +.040 front sight post for $193.58 shipped!), PSA bolt carrier with a JP Enterprises HP bolt, KAC M5 rail and verticle grip I found on ebay for about $160.00 (YAY! ebay!). The rest is pretty much what I could find on sales (I'll upgrade the trigger when I decide what I want). All told I built it pretty cheap.  " />
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Posted: 12/21/2017 11:37:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pkk:
I just finished my A4 clone. It started its life as a lowly PSA freedom rifle, but was totally dismantled. The good things were kept, but the bad and ugly are on armslist (if you're interested). However, I need a few things to complete it . . . But on a budget. I did sit on the Santa's lap at my local mall and asked him for an ACOG. It can't hurt, right? But an ACOG will probably never be a part of this particular rifle. I'm looking for a sling (2 point), mag pouch and bayonet. Can anyone point me to these items? But remember on a budget. The rifle, as its pictured, has a Windham Weaponry Govt. Profile, 1.7 twist, chrome-lined barrel (they gave me 10% off and a free +.040 front sight post for $193.58 shipped!), PSA bolt carrier with a JP Enterprises HP bolt, KAC M5 rail and verticle grip I found on ebay for about $160.00 (YAY! ebay!). The rest is pretty much what I could find on sales (I'll upgrade the trigger when I decide what I want). All told I built it pretty cheap. http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1 |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 2:33:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pkk:
I just finished my A4 clone. It started its life as a lowly PSA freedom rifle, but was totally dismantled. The good things were kept, but the bad and ugly are on armslist (if you're interested). However, I need a few things to complete it . . . But on a budget. I did sit on the Santa's lap at my local mall and asked him for an ACOG. It can't hurt, right? But an ACOG will probably never be a part of this particular rifle. I'm looking for a sling (2 point), mag pouch and bayonet. Can anyone point me to these items? But remember on a budget. The rifle, as its pictured, has a Windham Weaponry Govt. Profile, 1.7 twist, chrome-lined barrel (they gave me 10% off and a free +.040 front sight post for $193.58 shipped!), PSA bolt carrier with a JP Enterprises HP bolt, KAC M5 rail and verticle grip I found on ebay for about $160.00 (YAY! ebay!). The rest is pretty much what I could find on sales (I'll upgrade the trigger when I decide what I want). All told I built it pretty cheap. http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1 Dan |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 10:19:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: endermend]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pkk:
I just finished my A4 clone. It started its life as a lowly PSA freedom rifle, but was totally dismantled. The good things were kept, but the bad and ugly are on armslist (if you're interested). However, I need a few things to complete it . . . But on a budget. I did sit on the Santa's lap at my local mall and asked him for an ACOG. It can't hurt, right? But an ACOG will probably never be a part of this particular rifle. I'm looking for a sling (2 point), mag pouch and bayonet. Can anyone point me to these items? But remember on a budget. The rifle, as its pictured, has a Windham Weaponry Govt. Profile, 1.7 twist, chrome-lined barrel (they gave me 10% off and a free +.040 front sight post for $193.58 shipped!), PSA bolt carrier with a JP Enterprises HP bolt, KAC M5 rail and verticle grip I found on ebay for about $160.00 (YAY! ebay!). The rest is pretty much what I could find on sales (I'll upgrade the trigger when I decide what I want). All told I built it pretty cheap. http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/4zLSrN4.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/3JKqnKn.jpg?1 If you want an appropriate optic, an Aimpoint PRO could be a good candidate, while not in military use, it does look like pretty much any other Comp M2 or M3. Bayonets: (I don't know if they're a good price, I only know the pricing for M7 bayonets)... http://www.jsesurplus.com/OntarioOKC3SKhakiBrownUSMCBayonet8BladeandScabbard6504.aspx http://www.jsesurplus.com/PhrobisIIIM9TacticalKnifeandScabbardUSGIUSAMadeMilitarySurplus100.aspx http://www.jsesurplus.com/LAN-CAYM9TacticalKnifecticalknifeandscabbardusgiusamademilitarysurplus-1.aspx |
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Posted: 12/23/2017 6:44:08 PM EST
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So what are appropriate optics to use on an A4 clone?
I know TA31Fs, RCO, Aimpoint Comp M2-5, any Eotechs |
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Posted: 12/23/2017 6:51:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By endermend:
So what are appropriate optics to use on an A4 clone? I know TA31Fs, RCO, Aimpoint Comp M2-5, any Eotechs 
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Posted: 12/23/2017 10:08:04 PM EST
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were TA01 acogs used on A4's?
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Posted: 12/23/2017 10:20:49 PM EST
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I've seen the TA01NSN on the A4. Don't forget the Army M150.
There is also the MARS sight which was used in very limited numbers. (It sucks, I had one) 
One of the units that shared an Armory with us had Eotech 516s that were camo. I never did find out who they were and if the Eotechs were painted or purchased that way. |
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Posted: 12/23/2017 10:21:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InternationalM:
were TA01 acogs used on A4's? |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 5:31:45 PM EST
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Where are you guys getting the proper barrels?
Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 6:22:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Where are you guys getting the proper barrels? Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 7:13:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pkk:
What do you mean by "proper" barrel? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pkk:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Where are you guys getting the proper barrels? Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. Sput, I got no idea bro. Harder to track down these days.
Would keep an eye peeled on the EE |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2017 7:26:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Where are you guys getting the proper barrels? Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 7:57:21 PM EST
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https://shop.windhamweaponry.com/products/ba20gvt-7
That's the one I used. And as was mentioned, just put the +.040 front sight post in. It took me all of 30 sec. Windham Weaponry actually gave it to me for free with the barrel. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:01:50 PM EST
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Another option is PSA. They carry 20" CHF FN uppers. Solid barrels and they have the FSB. Unfortunately, they are not in stock at the moment. Not sure when they will.
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:24:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Sputnik556]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
He means chrome lined 1/7" twist, 20", F marked FSB, parkerized, rifle feed ramps at a minimum. Sput, I got no idea bro. Harder to track down these days.
Would keep an eye peeled on the EE Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By pkk:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Where are you guys getting the proper barrels? Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. Sput, I got no idea bro. Harder to track down these days.
Would keep an eye peeled on the EE I'll look into the WW and PSA barrels, I thought about just buying a Colt AR15A4 and calling it good. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:41:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
All that, but I'd rather have M4 ramps. It's just easier to find ramped uppers. I'll look into the WW and PSA barrels, I thought about just buying a Colt AR15A4 and calling it good. |
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:52:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
All that, but I'd rather have M4 ramps. It's just easier to find ramped uppers. I'll look into the WW and PSA barrels, I thought about just buying a Colt AR15A4 and calling it good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By pkk:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Where are you guys getting the proper barrels? Most everything I can find either has a standard FSB or is Nitrided. Sput, I got no idea bro. Harder to track down these days.
Would keep an eye peeled on the EE I'll look into the WW and PSA barrels, I thought about just buying a Colt AR15A4 and calling it good. |
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Posted: 12/25/2017 12:13:40 AM EST
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buy a Colt ar15a4 and call it good. My first a4 was done with a a WW barrel (they have m4 ramps) but I love my new colt. Id rather have the colt anyday and if not Colt, then FN
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Posted: 12/25/2017 3:27:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: endermend]
[#49]
I just entered Arizona, and I get to taste a little freedom. My A4 finally gets to feel like a proper A4... I couldn't find my KAC pistol grip
Attached FileI paid a 10$ premium for that stock, but I think it was well worth the money. I'm also looking to find a proper barrel, the barrel on this build is a Colt M16A2 barrel with a taller front sight post. I've been keeping an eye out for those palmetto FN barreled uppers. I plan on getting one of those and getting an FN upper and matching them together for a pseudo-FN build. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 2:24:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ckopp636:
buy a Colt ar15a4 and call it good. My first a4 was done with a a WW barrel (they have m4 ramps) but I love my new colt. Id rather have the colt anyday and if not Colt, then FN |
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