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Posted: 3/3/2016 11:02:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Corporal_Chaos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Holy Shit. You got a paq-4 in boot camp? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Originally Posted By JeredMD:
Was it more common to see the PEQ 2 on the M16A4? I am getting into NV and was thinking about trying to update my A4 clone (Once I rebuild it....again for the 4th time!) with a IR laser. The A4 I had in basic had a PAQ4C. Most of the Marine A4's I see have either a PEQ2 (older) or a PEQ15 (newer). Holy Shit. You got a paq-4 in boot camp? Yeah, after BRM we got issued M68's and IR lasers for advanced rifle markmanship (Infantry OSUT circa summer 2006). My unit started getting PEQ 15's right before and during our deployment ('08-'09). About half had PEQ 15's and the other half were still using PEQ 2's. |
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Posted: 3/4/2016 12:25:56 PM EDT
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New toy
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Posted: 3/4/2016 1:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4A1Carbine: This is the most accurate "clone rifle" I've put together. Based on a M16A4 I used briefly in the Army and really enjoyed. Looks exactly the same minus a PEQ. http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/02vettez06/1D509566-6490-4F5E-9525-2D48062838E1_zps2fisrwi4.jpg http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t372/02vettez06/7CFD6830-5861-4E22-B602-BC7D0C4F0A13_zpsfqmty7as.jpg I wonder how common an A4 is with an Aimpoint on it? |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 4:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
I wonder how common an A4 is with an Aimpoint on it? It was fairly common in the early-2000s. The M16A4 had initially been fielded as the MTOE weapon for most combat arms to replace the M16A2, before the Army decided to go balls out and make the M4 Standard A. A lot of mech units had gotten them initially and used them early in the war before going to M4 fleets, and a lot of them are still in the inventory. The Marine Corps, of course, held on to the M16A4 for far longer than the Army, and has been issuing the ACOG as standard, so the most common and "iconic" configuration of the A4 tends to be a 31-series ACOG of some sort, not to mention the fact that many Army units continued using the A4s as SDM-Rs after being fielded M4s, usually ICW an ACOG. 
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Posted: 3/5/2016 4:51:53 PM EDT
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A good reference, a 2004 archived thread about the M16A4:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/186971_A4andapos_s_already_in_Iraq_.html ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 8:46:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/9/2016 8:52:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Yeah, after BRM we got issued M68's and IR lasers for advanced rifle markmanship (Infantry OSUT circa summer 2006). My unit started getting PEQ 15's right before and during our deployment ('08-'09). About half had PEQ 15's and the other half were still using PEQ 2's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Originally Posted By 03RN:
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Originally Posted By JeredMD:
Was it more common to see the PEQ 2 on the M16A4? I am getting into NV and was thinking about trying to update my A4 clone (Once I rebuild it....again for the 4th time!) with a IR laser. The A4 I had in basic had a PAQ4C. Most of the Marine A4's I see have either a PEQ2 (older) or a PEQ15 (newer). Holy Shit. You got a paq-4 in boot camp? Yeah, after BRM we got issued M68's and IR lasers for advanced rifle markmanship (Infantry OSUT circa summer 2006). My unit started getting PEQ 15's right before and during our deployment ('08-'09). About half had PEQ 15's and the other half were still using PEQ 2's. I joined in '09 and only seen PEQ16's in the USMC. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 8:58:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryA pretty picture in all ways. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 8:58:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
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Quote HistoryDouble Tapping like Fred Astaire isn't good. |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 12:53:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ankratz]
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Damn photo bucket
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Posted: 3/10/2016 8:42:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
A pretty picture in all ways. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f5165edfa19bcf273643df7b3770f5690bca06dd/r=x404&c=534x401/http/cdn.tegna-tv.com/-mm-/1577a3df5bb3cc99eba1494e4894a972fd8a6183/c=608-0-5715-3840/local/-/media/2016/03/08/GGM/MilitaryTimes/635930540298891016-MAR-marksmanship-fundamentals-1.JPG A pretty picture in all ways. That's going to my my new wallpaper ... she's purdy  ... GI Jane is not bad either 
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:39:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f5165edfa19bcf273643df7b3770f5690bca06dd/r=x404&c=534x401/http/cdn.tegna-tv.com/-mm-/1577a3df5bb3cc99eba1494e4894a972fd8a6183/c=608-0-5715-3840/local/-/media/2016/03/08/GGM/MilitaryTimes/635930540298891016-MAR-marksmanship-fundamentals-1.JPG Hmm...a black sling & not using the rail-mounted sling adapter..interesting. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 2:58:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2016 4:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Hmm...a black sling & not using the rail-mounted sling adapter..interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f5165edfa19bcf273643df7b3770f5690bca06dd/r=x404&c=534x401/http/cdn.tegna-tv.com/-mm-/1577a3df5bb3cc99eba1494e4894a972fd8a6183/c=608-0-5715-3840/local/-/media/2016/03/08/GGM/MilitaryTimes/635930540298891016-MAR-marksmanship-fundamentals-1.JPG Hmm...a black sling & not using the rail-mounted sling adapter..interesting. I think its steadier to use a sling mount farther out myself. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 5:56:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71: Hmm...a black sling & not using the rail-mounted sling adapter..interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71: Hmm...a black sling & not using the rail-mounted sling adapter..interesting. Right; sling still seems to have that Vickers tab (in an OD-ish finish); the rest of the sling looks black indeed. Interesting. |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 6:25:24 PM EDT
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Do you fellas recommend a Colt AR15A4 or a FN Collector Series M16?
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Posted: 3/12/2016 6:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnson184:
Do you fellas recommend a Colt AR15A4 or a FN Collector Series M16? Both |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 7:45:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ankratz:
Both Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ankratz:
Originally Posted By Johnson184:
Do you fellas recommend a Colt AR15A4 or a FN Collector Series M16? Both 
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Posted: 3/12/2016 8:12:28 PM EDT
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I looked up the FN and it would appear the prices sit around $1600 and the Colt prices seems to vary from arouund $800 to over $1000.
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Posted: 3/12/2016 8:31:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arbob:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arbob:
Originally Posted By ankratz:
Originally Posted By Johnson184:
Do you fellas recommend a Colt AR15A4 or a FN Collector Series M16? Both
Oh c'mon!! Help me out here lol |
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Posted: 3/12/2016 9:04:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnson184: Oh c'mon!! Help me out here lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnson184: Originally Posted By arbob: Originally Posted By ankratz: Originally Posted By Johnson184: Do you fellas recommend a Colt AR15A4 or a FN Collector Series M16? Both Oh c'mon!! Help me out here lol Colt. You may even (as I probably would) disregard the wrong roll marks that FN has put on their collector FN, but in any case, the name Colt for me always comes first, regardless. I have a clone A4 but a Colt M4 that I love dearly. |
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Posted: 3/13/2016 3:07:17 AM EDT
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Where are you finding $800 Colt AR15A4?!
I'd go with the Colt. Better deal, and you can find a new KAC M5 for much cheaper than FN cost. |
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Posted: 3/13/2016 7:35:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DocBach]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
It was fairly common in the early-2000s. The M16A4 had initially been fielded as the MTOE weapon for most combat arms to replace the M16A2, before the Army decided to go balls out and make the M4 Standard A. A lot of mech units had gotten them initially and used them early in the war before going to M4 fleets, and a lot of them are still in the inventory. The Marine Corps, of course, held on to the M16A4 for far longer than the Army, and has been issuing the ACOG as standard, so the most common and "iconic" configuration of the A4 tends to be a 31-series ACOG of some sort, not to mention the fact that many Army units continued using the A4s as SDM-Rs after being fielded M4s, usually ICW an ACOG. ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
I wonder how common an A4 is with an Aimpoint on it? It was fairly common in the early-2000s. The M16A4 had initially been fielded as the MTOE weapon for most combat arms to replace the M16A2, before the Army decided to go balls out and make the M4 Standard A. A lot of mech units had gotten them initially and used them early in the war before going to M4 fleets, and a lot of them are still in the inventory. The Marine Corps, of course, held on to the M16A4 for far longer than the Army, and has been issuing the ACOG as standard, so the most common and "iconic" configuration of the A4 tends to be a 31-series ACOG of some sort, not to mention the fact that many Army units continued using the A4s as SDM-Rs after being fielded M4s, usually ICW an ACOG. ~Augee When we first got A4's, we got them without the KAC rail systems, they had the regular ribbed A2 handguards. We had M68s and PAQ4s which we mounted to the handguards with the old mount that clamped on to the barrel through the vent holes in the top handguard. In about 2005/2006 we went to all M4's -- generally squad/team leaders had PEQ2As, regular joes had PAQ4Cs. In 2010 my guard unit was way overstrength and the state gave us a bunch of M16A4s with KAC rail systems to cover the lack of weapons (didn't have enough M4s for everyone since our MTOE was way overbooked). By that time, every gun had PEQ-15s, most people had M68s (CompM4 versions) but we got a couple of PVQ-31 ACOGs -- we used those when we went to SDM school, we didn't have the dedicated SDM-Rs with the free floated DD 12.0 rails or anything cool like that. |
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Posted: 3/13/2016 11:46:55 AM EDT
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In the Corps in 2006 most units I saw had A4s with PEQ2s. PEQ4s were rather rare.
Most of us had the RCO-A4 model ACOG, but there were still some TA31F models floating around. No backup sights were issues, and we carried our carry handles around. There were some oddities, like one unit that shared the armory with us( I don't know who they were) had a bunch of Eotechs. I can't recall at the moment if they were 516s or 555s. |
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Posted: 3/18/2016 6:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
I looked up the FN and it would appear the prices sit around $1600 and the Colt prices seems to vary from arouund $800 to over $1000. So does their quality. |
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Posted: 3/21/2016 10:05:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
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Clone this.
 You voted and this week's Corps top shot comes from Cpl. Patrick H. Owens. He captured this photo of a Marine officer candidate breaking the surface of 'The Quigley' in Marine Corps Base Quantico. |
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Posted: 3/22/2016 6:43:01 AM EDT
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We didnt have much for photographers at bootcamp but I suspect anyone whose enlisted has blown frozen mudsnot from their nose.
On that note. Has anyone noticed there seems to be a lot of bootcamp pics around? When did that start? |
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Posted: 3/22/2016 7:52:43 AM EDT
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Apparently there is a public affairs unit that takes a lot of pictures. A few actually have A4 pictures in them. Most don't. They have multiple pages on Facebook these days.
In this case I noticed that the barrel is almost completely bare, and most of the guns have the rails completely covered with panels. |
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Posted: 3/22/2016 8:51:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: Clone this. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12813988_10153269951680194_3167814935973378538_n.jpg?oh=0a6ca7982d91915e53b0949f55ab959c&oe=5798DF10 Semper Fidelis! |
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Posted: 3/22/2016 10:58:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: coregon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
We didnt have much for photographers at bootcamp but I suspect anyone whose enlisted has blown frozen mudsnot from their nose.
On that note. Has anyone noticed there seems to be a lot of bootcamp pics around? When did that start? Many have Facebook pages, etc that they post to nearly everyday. Seems like a lot longer than 15 years since I was there... |
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Posted: 3/22/2016 11:26:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Apparently there is a public affairs unit that takes a lot of pictures. A few actually have A4 pictures in them. Most don't. They have multiple pages on Facebook these days. In this case I noticed that the barrel is almost completely bare, and most of the guns have the rails completely covered with panels. I didnt mean to come off as critical. Just an observation. Thepics are great and definitely belong here. |
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Posted: 3/24/2016 9:42:53 PM EDT
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My clone:
Bushmaster rifle w/ Colt 20" 1/7 bbl ALG Defense QMS trigger/hammer/etc. Matech BUIS Badger tac latch on CH RCO A4 KAC M5 RAS w/ panels Grip Pod Old school Surefire 951 Eagle Industries 3 point sling (from my 1st Iraq tour) BHI stock pouch 
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Posted: 3/26/2016 1:56:46 PM EDT
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Kind of an A4.
 160310-A-NU685-056
An Iraqi soldier with the 7th Iraqi Army Division provides security after entering a building during military operations on urban terrain (MOUT) training at Al Asad Air Base, Iraq, March 10, 2016. The small-unit military tactics training is part of the building partner capacity (BPC) mission, which increases the military capabilities of Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). By enabling ISF through advise and assist, and BPC missions, the Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve’s multinational coalition is helping the Government of Iraq to set the conditions to defeat ISIL. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Joshua E. Powell/Released) |
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Posted: 3/26/2016 6:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Kind of an A4. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10402866_1677816739151127_3214249122143055482_n.jpg?oh=76bc50c9458533e180d28d70c86ed608&oe=577BA3A6 160310-A-NU685-056 An Iraqi soldier with the 7th Iraqi Army Division provides security after entering a building during military operations on urban terrain (MOUT) training at Al Asad Air Base, Iraq, March 10, 2016. The small-unit military tactics training is part of the building partner capacity (BPC) mission, which increases the military capabilities of Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) to fight the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). By enabling ISF through advise and assist, and BPC missions, the Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve’s multinational coalition is helping the Government of Iraq to set the conditions to defeat ISIL. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Joshua E. Powell/Released) I think you are waiting for me to violate COC by posting a pic like that! Its a TARP!!!! |
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Posted: 3/29/2016 11:38:36 PM EDT
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Bump! I wanna see some pics! I just embarked on my A4 clone build again! 4th time building this damn rifle! Keep selling them for other things and always end up regretting to not having a 20" AR15 in the safe
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Posted: 3/30/2016 1:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Clone this. https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12813988_10153269951680194_3167814935973378538_n.jpg?oh=0a6ca7982d91915e53b0949f55ab959c&oe=5798DF10 You voted and this week's Corps top shot comes from Cpl. Patrick H. Owens. He captured this photo of a Marine officer candidate breaking the surface of 'The Quigley' in Marine Corps Base Quantico. I am in college now and went to OCS two summers ago and will be going back this summer to finish my training (two 6 week sessions spread out between freshman and junior years). The A4's at OCS are pretty bare of finish and all have kac rails, carry handles, and rail panels. All of the ones I saw were FN. No live ammunition is used at OCS so these rifles have pretty much had blanks used extensively for their entire life. As for "The Quigley", I thought that was a lot of fun
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Posted: 3/31/2016 1:53:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:
As for "The Quigley", I thought that was a lot of fun
You thought the Quigley was fun? Either there's something wrong with you Candidate or your Sgt Instructors were not doing their job as well as they should have. The only thing good about the Quigley is that it was probably the least likely place you'd become a heat casualty. |
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Posted: 3/31/2016 7:04:54 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting their A2 stock assembly at? I would prefer one with a metal latch. Any good options out there?
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Posted: 3/31/2016 7:06:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2016 1:51:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#41]
Been a productive weekend.
uppers M16A2 FN receiver and bbl M16A4 FN rifle receiver and bbl M4A1 Block I with FN M4 receiver and Colt 14.5" SOCOM bbl M4A1 URG/CQBR Block II with Colt M4 receiver and Colt 10.3" Govt profile cut down bbl 
Bolt Carriers and Bolts all FN. CD |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 1:52:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#42]
double post
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Posted: 4/3/2016 2:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Been a productive weekend. uppers M16A2 FN receiver and bbl M16A4 FN rifle receiver and bbl M4A1 Block I with FN M4 receiver and Colt 14.5" SOCOM bbl M4A1 URG/CQBR Block II with Colt M4 receiver and Colt 10.3" Govt profile cut down bbl http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/12966009_262746617398356_307011797_n.jpg Bolt Carriers and Bolts all FN. CD CD, was this for work? |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 2:32:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kaneljo3000:
CD, was this for work? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kaneljo3000:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Been a productive weekend. uppers M16A2 FN receiver and bbl M16A4 FN rifle receiver and bbl M4A1 Block I with FN M4 receiver and Colt 14.5" SOCOM bbl M4A1 URG/CQBR Block II with Colt M4 receiver and Colt 10.3" Govt profile cut down bbl http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/12966009_262746617398356_307011797_n.jpg Bolt Carriers and Bolts all FN. CD CD, was this for work? yes, SOCOM armorer down range. Taught the Gunners Mate here how to rebuild a upper too (another not shown, 14.5" Block II) Still have some Marines in MARSOC that have M16s (support) CD |
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Posted: 4/3/2016 10:03:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
I just updated my A4 clone from this..... <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/005_zpsqcmehzsj.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/005_zpsqcmehzsj.jpg</a> to this. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/003A_zpsuuoszdvs.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/003A_zpsuuoszdvs.jpg</a> Now, it is closer to this one I did a few years ago. <a href="http://s100.photobucket.com/user/jamesrea_2006/media/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/023_zpsb3b817a3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/Weapons%202014/Retro%20ARs/M16A4/023_zpsb3b817a3.jpg</a> Such awesome evolution shots |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 2:39:53 AM EDT
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had some requests for photos of FN receivers-back to front
M16A2 dated 03/10 M16A4 dated 10/05 M16A4 dated 06/14 M4 dated 02/16 
only M4 is marked for Carbine receiver cuts, all others have rifle cuts 
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Posted: 4/4/2016 9:42:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2016 12:47:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JeredMD]
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IM getting closer! I have a super worn looking Fn barrel, Colt receiver, KAC rail, Beat to shit ACOG TA31f, and PEQ2A..... Next is BCG and assemble me a lower!!! Should I go with a A1 grip or A2 grip?
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Posted: 4/5/2016 2:44:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeredMD:
IM getting closer! I have a super worn looking Fn barrel, Colt receiver, KAC rail, Beat to shit ACOG TA31f, and PEQ2A..... Next is BCG and assemble me a lower!!! Should I go with a A1 grip or A2 grip? Its a M16A4, then A2 grip would be correct. CD |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 6:23:34 AM EDT
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Reason I ask is cause the a1 grips are more comfortable than the a2. Is there any a4's seen with a1 grips?
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