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Posted: 5/8/2018 3:15:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
God I love picitinny rails.  And then everyone make their own design so there's no chance for accessories. Then someone can standardize it so you don't have to attach rails to your rails to attach things. Then everyone can standardize it so there is no standardization to attach things to your rails on your rails. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 3:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks: We should invent something where you have to attach rails and then things to those rails. And then everyone make their own design so there's no chance for accessories. Then someone can standardize it so you don't have to attach rails to your rails to attach things. Then everyone can standardize it so there is no standardization to attach things to your rails on your rails. 
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Posted: 5/8/2018 4:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks: We should invent something where you have to attach rails and then things to those rails. And then everyone make their own design so there's no chance for accessories. Then someone can standardize it so you don't have to attach rails to your rails to attach things. Then everyone can standardize it so there is no standardization to attach things to your rails on your rails. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 4:30:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Wait... what? 'cause if it aint broke, don't friggin' fix it! (That's the Prime Directive ...) I have to say, I agree! |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 4:59:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
I think he's saying pic rails > dickmod || maglock 'cause if it aint broke, don't friggin' fix it! (That's the Prime Directive ...) I have to say, I agree! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
Originally Posted By wissota4:
Wait... what? 'cause if it aint broke, don't friggin' fix it! (That's the Prime Directive ...) I have to say, I agree! My point is we had standardization, then everyone made their own bolt on systems so keymod came out to standardize shit again. But then everyone wanted their own standardized system (Mlok), and now there are 3 standardized systems. Rant off... 
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Posted: 5/8/2018 5:12:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks:
It has it's place, I like the Geissele MK4 handguard that has machined pic up front where it's needed. But I can put Mlok grips or skins or whatever and keep it thin. My point is we had standardization, then everyone made their own bolt on systems so keymod came out to standardize shit again. But then everyone wanted their own standardized system (Mlok), and now there are 3 standardized systems. Rant off... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks:
Originally Posted By tifosi:
Originally Posted By wissota4:
Wait... what? 'cause if it aint broke, don't friggin' fix it! (That's the Prime Directive ...) I have to say, I agree! My point is we had standardization, then everyone made their own bolt on systems so keymod came out to standardize shit again. But then everyone wanted their own standardized system (Mlok), and now there are 3 standardized systems. Rant off... Tig- I'm with you. Every rail I've ever owned has been 1913. I have played with keymod, had a moderator tell me they physically witnessed keymod accessories falling off. 
Mlok seems more sturdy tho, so if I give one a try it'll be that |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 5:30:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Don't forget about squidmod! Tig- I'm with you. Every rail I've ever owned has been 1913. I have played with keymod, had a moderator tell me they physically witnessed keymod accessories falling off.
Mlok seems more sturdy tho, so if I give one a try it'll be that 
I'm old. I like old shit. 
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Posted: 5/8/2018 5:50:40 PM EDT
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I had Centurion Arms C4 quad railed uppers. Sold them off for the cool new keymod crap. What a mistake.. I'd give my left nut to go back to pic.
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Posted: 5/8/2018 6:23:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FilthyCasual:
I had Centurion Arms C4 quad railed uppers. Sold them off for the cool new keymod crap. What a mistake.. I'd give my left nut to go back to pic. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 6:24:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks: It has it's place, I like the Geissele MK4 handguard that has machined pic up front where it's needed. But I can put Mlok grips or skins or whatever and keep it thin. 
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Posted: 5/8/2018 6:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gullskjegg]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
I do agree the Mk4 rail is a nice compromise. I like the URX 3/3.1 for the same reason, but then again, they use their own propriety attachment points too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
Originally Posted By Mossyrocks: It has it's place, I like the Geissele MK4 handguard that has machined pic up front where it's needed. But I can put Mlok grips or skins or whatever and keep it thin. So I sold the URX. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 11:10:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mossyrocks: We should invent something where you have to attach rails and then things to those rails. And then everyone make their own design so there's no chance for accessories. Then someone can standardize it so you don't have to attach rails to your rails to attach things. Then everyone can standardize it so there is no standardization to attach things to your rails on your rails. I'm going back to just taping crap real tight onto my handguards.   
OK, maybe not. But I did just drill a few more holes in some handguards and bolt on a rail to it. No M lok needed. And what nitwit would think it was practical to put the rail stuff on before you actually mount the FF rail. That seems really dumb. Squidmod. LOL. I think the rails are good, if you don't have to actually attach something to them then.....   Like I said, pulls out the roll and rips some tape off......I mean the rubber grommets, c'mon..... I mean, what if you fell really hard and then they just all scattered everywhere? Boing boing boing.... that would be a sight. I hear people complain about how sharp rails are. Maybe some are but I've been shooting my recce DD quad rails without anything on them for a while. And they don't bother my hands a bit. I don't ever wear gloves either. They seem to have not overly sharp edges. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 11:27:51 PM EDT
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The grommets are like 5 attached, so they wouldn't fall out one at a time. The rail is only tightened by two or three screws, not too much effort to remove. I don't think people are buying troy rails (trx or alpha) to use them as a quad rail either. I have a couple and they work fine for their application.
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Posted: 5/8/2018 11:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
The grommets are like 5 attached, so they wouldn't fall out one at a time. The rail is only tightened by two or three screws, not too much effort to remove. I don't think people are buying troy rails (trx or alpha) to use them as a quad rail either. I have a couple and they work fine for their application. |
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Posted: 5/8/2018 11:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: the upside is you have all kinds of positions you can put stuff, eh? I still don't understand how the rail attaches. Are all the holes threaded? |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 2:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yeah the little rubber squid plugs
They do look light and comfy for sure. I’m also not sure how the attachments work but I would guess a shitty version of Dickmod or Mcock that attaches a pic rail section from underneath the squid holes. But that’s just my guess. #SquidMod Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
And then don't they actually have little grommets that you could actually sit there and stick in any of the holes you want them in? I mean, who wants to do that? I do every once in a while see a troy rail on a US military gun. Which I always thought is pretty wild. However, they seem like they'd be light and comfy.... So I'm not necessarily against them. I don't even know how the holes work though, with rail attachments.
They do look light and comfy for sure. I’m also not sure how the attachments work but I would guess a shitty version of Dickmod or Mcock that attaches a pic rail section from underneath the squid holes. But that’s just my guess. #SquidMod |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 2:32:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
One of my first accessories I ever bought was a Troy tube. They make these aluminum "backers" that you installed from the inside. They can be done without removing the rail depending on barrel and gas block config, but it's far easier to just remove it and drop the backer in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
And then don't they actually have little grommets that you could actually sit there and stick in any of the holes you want them in? I mean, who wants to do that? I do every once in a while see a troy rail on a US military gun. Which I always thought is pretty wild. However, they seem like they'd be light and comfy.... So I'm not necessarily against them. I don't even know how the holes work though, with rail attachments.
They do look light and comfy for sure. I’m also not sure how the attachments work but I would guess a shitty version of Dickmod or Mcock that attaches a pic rail section from underneath the squid holes. But that’s just my guess. #SquidMod
If I do go the way of the HSLD it’ll def be a Mlok G rail. But I do like those troys, minus the attachment method lol |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 4:13:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
#SQUIDMOD
I'm old. I like old shit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/20180430_111957_1525814728303_001-537742.jpg |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 6:23:17 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: What is the story with the carry handles being mounted one slot back? I've seen many pics of that set up. Thanks 
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Posted: 5/9/2018 11:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: What is the story with the carry handles being mounted one slot back? I've seen many pics of that set up. Thanks |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 5:46:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FilthyCasual:
I had Centurion Arms C4 quad railed uppers. Sold them off for the cool new keymod crap. What a mistake.. I'd give my left nut to go back to pic. |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 5:46:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ironhandjohn]
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crap, my posting sear must be worn, as I doubled.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2018 8:40:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Super_Trouper]
[#23]
Does anyone have any leads on a Colt 14.5" government profile Barrel w/ FSP? Can't seem to find one anywhere.
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Posted: 5/9/2018 9:01:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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M4A1 when first issued in 95' without any SOPMOD accessories added as they were still being fielded.
In Jordan  Attached FileOn Fort Campbell KY that summer.  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 9:08:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Super_Trouper:
Does anyone have any leads on a Colt 14.5" government profile Barrel w/ FSP? Can't seem to find one anywhere. |
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Posted: 5/9/2018 11:24:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
M4A1 when first issued in 95' without any SOPMOD accessories added as they were still being fielded. In Jordan https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Page_00_M4A1-539438.JPG On Fort Campbell KY that summer. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Page_02_M4A1-539442.JPG CD |
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Posted: 5/10/2018 7:06:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mygrainman]
[#27]
Mail lady brought me some worthy mags yesterday...
 
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Posted: 5/10/2018 9:01:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mygrainman:
Mail lady brought me some worthy mags yesterday... https://s26.postimg.cc/x6gpfnva1/C6_D33179-655_D-4_C9_D-8607-7_CB325_E34014.jpg https://s26.postimg.cc/in9ke8ufd/A9_FCE28_D-964_D-4_F4_D-94_F3-4960192_A7563.jpg
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Posted: 5/10/2018 11:51:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tanodized]
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Colt M4A1: 14.5" SOCOM Barrel w/ Forward Sling Swivel, Elcan SpecterDR SU-230, Insight ATPIAL-C, M3X & Dual Pressure Switch, LMT SOPMOD Stock, GPS Vertical Grip, CQD Rear Sling Mount, KAC M4 RAS & M4QD Flash Hider 
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Posted: 5/10/2018 12:40:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2018 1:03:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: You're killing it dude. Great looking rifle. 
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Posted: 5/10/2018 2:34:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryCan I just send you my rifles to take pictures of them? 
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Posted: 5/10/2018 3:13:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Yeah, I would say that's a particularly super good picture of a particularly super great gun.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 4:34:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: Great pics you are posting lately. Saw the other ones in the A2 forum too!!! Are you feeling nostalgic? Going through some old photo albums? I really like seeing them. As I'm sure many others do too! Scotland Dive training CD |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 7:44:55 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
And then don't they actually have little grommets that you could actually sit there and stick in any of the holes you want them in? I mean, who wants to do that? I do every once in a while see a troy rail on a US military gun. Which I always thought is pretty wild. However, they seem like they'd be light and comfy.... So I'm not necessarily against them. I don't even know how the holes work though, with rail attachments. Mine came with 3 sections of pic rail that attach with some screws and a plate. You have to take the rail off to mount them. For a while I just ran a TLR on the top rail for a light, now I have an Hl-X mounted to the bottom on a section of pic rail. Not the best set-up but it works. I know one or two companies make light mounts for scout and some streamlights. I'm to cheap too get rid of it as it's a home defense rifle now. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:39:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:34:38 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By schaffer: I have a 15 inch troy rail on one of my rifles. It's been on there long enough that I can't remember how the weight was before I put it on. It's not a light rifle, but it's not too heavy. Mine came with 3 sections of pic rail that attach with some screws and a plate. You have to take the rail off to mount them. For a while I just ran a TLR on the top rail for a light, now I have an Hl-X mounted to the bottom on a section of pic rail. Not the best set-up but it works. I know one or two companies make light mounts for scout and some streamlights. I'm to cheap too get rid of it as it's a home defense rifle now. |
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:58:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: schaffer]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA: I'm guessing in order to take the rail off you you just have to unscrew a few screws at the base of it, by the receiver, eh? Not ideal compared to some methods but maybe not THAT bad..... I don't like taking it off because my front sight is mounted and it can change zero. I have it marked with some paint and my irons are co witnessed with my dot so it's not a huge issue. I also bridge the rail to the upper with my optic so that also eliminates some of the error. It's not a bad rail but I would go with something else if I was doing it again. I think I put it on in 2012 and have been running it pretty much the same way for the last 6 years. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:06:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#39]
We need more pics in here!
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:11:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryMy wang prolapsed a bit when i saw your TA01NSN WTT ad.
Looks like you made that happen pretty quick. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:20:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
My wang prolapsed a bit when i saw your TA01NSN WTT ad.
Looks like you made that happen pretty quick. https://i.imgur.com/aUe4fkN.jpg RO727 clone is next on the agenda and I'll stop fucking with this one. Maybe. You've got a good line up there man. Now you need some more freedom in your life!
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:24:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
You know me, man- I've got gun ADHD. RO727 clone is next on the agenda and I'll stop fucking with this one. Maybe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
My wang prolapsed a bit when i saw your TA01NSN WTT ad.
Looks like you made that happen pretty quick. https://i.imgur.com/aUe4fkN.jpg RO727 clone is next on the agenda and I'll stop fucking with this one. Maybe.
I liked my 727 but did not like that I used a 16" bbl. I even drilled my own FSB holes on that one. Definitely a fun light carbine and an awesome wall hanger, but I had to go and fuck that one up too. Lol (think I traded off the A2 receiver and traded the bbl for an M951 and some mags) |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:26:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
You know me, man- I've got gun ADHD. RO727 clone is next on the agenda and I'll stop fucking with this one. Maybe. You've got a good line up there man. Now you need some more freedom in your life! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
My wang prolapsed a bit when i saw your TA01NSN WTT ad.
Looks like you made that happen pretty quick. https://i.imgur.com/aUe4fkN.jpg RO727 clone is next on the agenda and I'll stop fucking with this one. Maybe. You've got a good line up there man. Now you need some more freedom in your life!
The block 2 is all spiffy now tho. Bottom gun is the same just minus the RMR (traded that for my new EO) |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:31:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Looks good. Makes me wanna paint mines. Nice EXPS.
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
My wang prolapsed a bit when i saw your TA01NSN WTT ad.
Looks like you made that happen pretty quick. https://i.imgur.com/aUe4fkN.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:37:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
Looks good. Makes me wanna paint mines. Nice EXPS. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:47:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:06:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prskiller:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356129/IMG_6901-542170.JPG |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:12:40 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: That's a great looking rifle. Thought you had done a little re-arranging when I first saw it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:39:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe: That's a great looking rifle. Originally Posted By Mossyrocks: Agreed, I can see why you like it... Thought you had done a little re-arranging when I first saw it.
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Posted: 5/14/2018 9:36:50 PM EDT
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