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Posted: 8/4/2019 12:43:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: What selector would be appropriate for a Block 1? Would the standard waffle stock work for Block 1? Thanks CD |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 1:31:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Disregard.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2019 7:32:08 PM EDT
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Ok great info! Thanks for the tips. I think I have managed to locate a N1 stock(still ironing out the details), however as far as the short safety selector goes, I'm a little lost on where to find one as I have nothing to compare it to. I'll go back through this thread to see if any other posters are running the short selector to get an idea of what to look for. If you have any links to sites selling the ideal selector switch let me know, I'd like to get this as close to correct as I can.
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Posted: 8/4/2019 8:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Ok great info! Thanks for the tips. I think I have managed to locate a N1 stock(still ironing out the details), however as far as the short safety selector goes, I'm a little lost on where to find one as I have nothing to compare it to. I'll go back through this thread to see if any other posters are running the short selector to get an idea of what to look for. If you have any links to sites selling the ideal selector switch let me know, I'd like to get this as close to correct as I can. AMBI |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 8:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By azfirearms:
Ok great info! Thanks for the tips. I think I have managed to locate a N1 stock(still ironing out the details), however as far as the short safety selector goes, I'm a little lost on where to find one as I have nothing to compare it to. I'll go back through this thread to see if any other posters are running the short selector to get an idea of what to look for. If you have any links to sites selling the ideal selector switch let me know, I'd like to get this as close to correct as I can. AMBI  Attached FileThis is incorrect for a clone. The mil selector levers do not extend so far into the center. Below is a pic o a safety that more closely mimics the issued selector lever:  Attached FileI actually put a neutered select-fire selector lever into my M16A4 clone, which should be identical to the issued part. I got the part from Brownells. I believe it was made by Schmidt Tool Co. |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 8:52:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
What's meant by the short safety refers to the lever arm extending into the middle of the shaft. See pic below: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3889_JPG-1042426.JPG This is incorrect for a clone. The mil selector levers do not extend so far into the center. Below is a pic o a safety that more closely mimics the issued selector lever: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3890_JPG-1042428.JPG I actually put a neutered select-fire selector lever into my M16A4 clone, which should be identical to the issued part. I got the part from Brownells. I believe it was made by Schmidt Tool Co. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By azfirearms:
Ok great info! Thanks for the tips. I think I have managed to locate a N1 stock(still ironing out the details), however as far as the short safety selector goes, I'm a little lost on where to find one as I have nothing to compare it to. I'll go back through this thread to see if any other posters are running the short selector to get an idea of what to look for. If you have any links to sites selling the ideal selector switch let me know, I'd like to get this as close to correct as I can. AMBI https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3889_JPG-1042426.JPG This is incorrect for a clone. The mil selector levers do not extend so far into the center. Below is a pic o a safety that more closely mimics the issued selector lever: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3890_JPG-1042428.JPG I actually put a neutered select-fire selector lever into my M16A4 clone, which should be identical to the issued part. I got the part from Brownells. I believe it was made by Schmidt Tool Co. Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3820_JPG-888917.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3821_JPG-888920.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3822_JPG-888923.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3823_JPG-888927.JPG This is what you seek: 
Edit: DISCUSSION LINK HERE |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2019 2:15:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: azfirearms]
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Ah got it. Looks clean not extending deep into the center. Hopefully they are all S marked in the cast. I am running the SS stamped hammer and trigger which I think is surplus schmitd tool as well so a matching selector would be rad. I'll browse the EE section to see if one pops up. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
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Posted: 8/5/2019 9:51:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Ok great info! Thanks for the tips. I think I have managed to locate a N1 stock(still ironing out the details), however as far as the short safety selector goes, I'm a little lost on where to find one as I have nothing to compare it to. I'll go back through this thread to see if any other posters are running the short selector to get an idea of what to look for. If you have any links to sites selling the ideal selector switch let me know, I'd like to get this as close to correct as I can. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2019 2:51:20 PM EDT
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Figured you guys might like these. Very interesting setups.
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Posted: 8/7/2019 5:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Yeah, my bad. Missed the "short" notation. This is what you seek: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20190804-194711_Samsung_Internet-1042457.jpg Edit: DISCUSSION LINK HERE  Attached File Attached FileI try to use select-fire safeties whenever possible. I make sure that I modify (remove center fin) them before installing. |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 6:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord: That is what I use. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/007_JPG-1045986.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/012_JPG-1045987.JPG I try to use select-fire safeties whenever possible. I make sure that I modify (remove center fin) them before installing. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/7/2019 7:25:00 PM EDT
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Brownells has Colt FA safety's in Ambi or non.
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Posted: 8/7/2019 7:46:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
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I use these. I don’t want to pay for a Colt ambi even with dealer pricing
https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-Semi-Auto-Safety-Selector-Lever-p/sp63000.htm |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 7:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Is that recent purchase? The ones I find are the new style with slightly longer lever. |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 8:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord: That is what I use. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/007_JPG-1045986.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/76904/012_JPG-1045987.JPG I try to use select-fire safeties whenever possible. I make sure that I modify (remove center fin) them before installing. Colt ambi: 
Older Colt semi: 
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Posted: 8/7/2019 10:05:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2019 12:04:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Yeah, my bad. Missed the "short" notation. This is what you seek: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20190804-194711_Samsung_Internet-1042457.jpg Edit: DISCUSSION LINK HERE |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 9:32:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wissota4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kvjavs:
Curious, for a clone, what would be the best method to XXXX out BURST on a lower? Punches or a deep engraving with aluminum black? |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 11:31:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kvjavs:
Curious, for a clone, what would be the best method to XXXX out BURST on a lower? Punches or a deep engraving with aluminum black? CD |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 12:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
For a Blk I (95-02') would be a single left side short safety. Correct stock would be a Colt N1 for that time frame. Don't remember waffle stocks coming out until around 03'ish. CD |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 1:56:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY: Do you know approximately when the ambi safety's first started showing up on issued rifles? I have a CAG clone build with the MRE rail and need to decide if an ambi safety is appropriate. Thanks! CD |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 2:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Do you know approximately when the ambi safety's first started showing up on issued rifles? I have a CAG clone build with the MRE rail and need to decide if an ambi safety is appropriate. Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
For a Blk I (95-02') would be a single left side short safety. Correct stock would be a Colt N1 for that time frame. Don't remember waffle stocks coming out until around 03'ish. CD |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 2:46:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Do you know approximately when the ambi safety's first started showing up on issued rifles? I have a CAG clone build with the MRE rail and need to decide if an ambi safety is appropriate. Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
For a Blk I (95-02') would be a single left side short safety. Correct stock would be a Colt N1 for that time frame. Don't remember waffle stocks coming out until around 03'ish. CD |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 3:17:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I would say your build predates the ambi selector being common. 
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SC, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2019 8:22:04 PM EDT
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Forgive me if I’m blundering here, is it appropriate to ask what the going rate in a clone relevant part is here?
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Posted: 8/9/2019 5:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DC2FA5:
Forgive me if I’m blundering here, is it appropriate to ask what the going rate in a clone relevant part is here? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:28:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DC2FA5]
[#27]
I’m trying to assess a fair selling price for a property marked Colt M4A1 lower in the EE. Unfired takeoff, complete.
ETA, the only place I can find them listed is Charlie’s, and we all know that’s ‘too damn high’ as the prophet once said. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:46:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DC2FA5:
I’m trying to assess a fair selling price for a property marked Colt M4A1 lower in the EE. Unfired takeoff, complete. ETA, the only place I can find them listed is Charlie’s, and we all know that’s ‘too damn high’ as the prophet once said. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:47:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DC2FA5:
I’m trying to assess a fair selling price for a property marked Colt M4A1 lower in the EE. Unfired takeoff, complete. ETA, the only place I can find them listed is Charlie’s, and we all know that’s ‘too damn high’ as the prophet once said. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2019 8:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove: I went with the PSA M4A1. I didn’t want to spend $500 on a lower. I managed to scrounge up all Colt LOK and extension on the EE and arms unlimited |
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Posted: 8/10/2019 12:14:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2019 7:36:01 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2019 10:45:13 PM EDT
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Learning a lot here. My cage code colt I'm building came with p&s furniture on it, would having a p&s ras rail be a better way to go vs the one from kac?
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Posted: 8/10/2019 10:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By country_boy87:
Learning a lot here. My cage code colt I'm building came with p&s furniture on it, would having a p&s ras rail be a better way to go vs the one from kac? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2019 1:15:21 PM EDT
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So i definitely got one with the flat face... but i think it has 3 detent positions so it will not function properly with a knights two stage semi auto trigger will it? If this is indeed not what i need, any advice on where to order a correct flat faced selector for my Colt M4 block 1 build? |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 1:52:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6H05T:
https://i.ibb.co/qF2ZFZr/20190811-130111.jpg https://i.ibb.co/rGj1H9S/20190811-130047.jpg https://i.ibb.co/b616fjs/20190811-130030.jpg So i definitely got one with the flat face... but i think it has 3 detent positions so it will not function properly with a knights two stage semi auto trigger will it? If this is indeed not what i need, any advice on where to order a correct flat faced selector for my Colt M4 block 1 build?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2019 1:55:13 PM EDT
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So I stumbled upon these two images today. This carbine belonged to a USMC Det 1 attachment and now belongs to the USMC Museum where it will go on display. Anyone have any info on it by chance? The clone bug hit me on this one and now I must build one! Everything I can pretty much make out. However, does it appear to have a 12.5" barrel with a Surefire can of some sort? Going to start gathering the parts!!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2019 6:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
How the heck did you get paint in the detent channel? Or is that dirt? |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 9:07:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang:
So I stumbled upon these two images today. This carbine belonged to a USMC Det 1 attachment and now belongs to the USMC Museum where it will go on display. Anyone have any info on it by chance? The clone bug hit me on this one and now I must build one! Everything I can pretty much make out. However, does it appear to have a 12.5" barrel with a Surefire can of some sort? Going to start gathering the parts!! https://i.imgur.com/FcOQCE6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dbtSK5t.jpg |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2019 9:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121:
Appears to be a standard M4/M4A1 (14.5” barrel) with Surefire’s old M4FA or FA556AR suppressors that mount further back on the barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121:
Originally Posted By LongTrang:
So I stumbled upon these two images today. This carbine belonged to a USMC Det 1 attachment and now belongs to the USMC Museum where it will go on display. Anyone have any info on it by chance? The clone bug hit me on this one and now I must build one! Everything I can pretty much make out. However, does it appear to have a 12.5" barrel with a Surefire can of some sort? Going to start gathering the parts!! https://i.imgur.com/FcOQCE6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dbtSK5t.jpg |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 9:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang: Oh man.... how hard is it going to be to track that combo down? It has to be out there somewhere. |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 9:57:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121: Haven’t seen those sold for a while or the 5.56mm mounts, closest you might find is some of the old FA556-212 models that are offered from time to time due to over runs. Actual model that you’re looking for you will more than likely be buying on the secondary market and condition will vary. 
Eta: pic borrowed from an EE ad. |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 10:34:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Like so? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/lru54ii-1051231.jpg Eta: pic borrowed from an EE ad. |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 10:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121: Yes, that is the closed-tine mount for the FA556-212. That model was being sold at the same time frame or around it as the previously listed models. The reflex models have not been sold for sometime new that I have seen, though I have recently seen the FA556-212 model being sold new. I was surprised to see a handful offered recently in the EE. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2019 1:32:14 AM EDT
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Well I tracked down a FA556AR for sale on the buds website. Need to locate a mount now.
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Posted: 8/12/2019 9:28:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang:
Well I tracked down a FA556AR for sale on the buds website. Need to locate a mount now. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2019 2:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang:
Well I tracked down a FA556AR for sale on the buds website. Need to locate a mount now. https://www.armsunlimited.com/SureFire-Fast-Attach-AR15-M4-Rifle-Suppressor-p/fa556-212.htm |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 3:41:16 PM EDT
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 Attached FileMy modern 1.5. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 7:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Timbo:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123815/14969FCD-8DBE-450B-9907-7A2F7CAA1B4B_jpeg-1051931.JPGMy modern 1.5. |
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Posted: 8/12/2019 7:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
Thats not a clone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
Originally Posted By Timbo:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123815/14969FCD-8DBE-450B-9907-7A2F7CAA1B4B_jpeg-1051931.JPGMy modern 1.5. 
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