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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:15:56 AM EST
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:57:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
This ^^^^^ B5 Systems SOPMOD Stock Gen 1 - Mil-Spec - Coyote Brown B5 Systems SOPMOD Stock Gen 1 - Mil-Spec - Black Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrs93accord:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Gen 1 without QD cup would be the ticket. B5 Systems SOPMOD Stock Gen 1 - Mil-Spec - Coyote Brown B5 Systems SOPMOD Stock Gen 1 - Mil-Spec - Black |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:08:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: Yes, this is the one I was looking at. I’ve seen some reports about a loose fit. Has that been a problem on Colt milspec tubes? I've had 5 or 6 Gen1s now. All fit my Colt REs perfectly. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 12:24:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Early examples actually had to be sanded on the interior due to tight tolerances. I've had 5 or 6 Gen1s now. All fit my Colt REs perfectly. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:11:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: azfirearms]
[#5]
Ok. My *completed* M4 Clone with correct style selector and stock. Thanks for all the help/information guys! @Combat_Diver @wissota4 @Tigwelder1971 @A_Friendly_Manatee
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:25:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Ok. My completed M4 Clone with correct style selector and stock. Thanks for all the help/information guys! @Combat_Diver @wissota4 @Tigwelder1971 @A_Friendly_Manatee https://i.imgur.com/VgSCUFQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5isWE6Q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NLszvjY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CeLmQNF.jpg 
Nice gun. Keep your eye out for a proper N1 stock and optic. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:32:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: azfirearms]
[#7]
Man, this site keeps my wallet nice and skinny. I'll keep searching for a good deal on an N1. Keeping in mind this build is for the 95-02 era, would the correct optic be an Aimpoint with Wilcox mount, or would it be a specific variation of the Trijicon Acog?
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:43:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Man, this site keeps my wallet nice and skinny. I'll keep searching for a good deal on an N1. Would the correct optic be an Aimpoint/Wilcox mount, or would it be a specific variation of the Trijicon Acog? Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN Trijicon RX01 Though I run M2s in std QRP mount with spacer as well as Wilcox. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:45:56 PM EST
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Got it. Time to browse the EE!
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:53:01 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Got it. Time to browse the EE! |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:28:49 PM EST
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:31:21 PM EST
[#12]
Looking for a 6 pos 7075 buffer tube, possibly with spring and buffer if anyone has a plug on one that can be bought with PP.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:34:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Looking for a 6 pos 7075 buffer tube, possibly with spring and buffer if anyone has a plug on one that can be bought with PP. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:41:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: GHOS7]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove: I have a buffer spring you can have. I also have a buffer detent, both Vltor. They are your if want them |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:54:42 PM EST
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Tigwelder1971- Thanks for the lead! So what indicated to you off that my stock was in fact a repop of the N1? Is it the fact that it is missing the two support ribs on each side by the base of the buffer tube or what?
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:04:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Tigwelder1971- Thanks for the lead! So what indicated to you off that my stock was in fact a repop of the N1? Is it the fact that it is missing the two support ribs on each side by the base of the buffer tube or what? 
In addition to the missing ribs...the latch profile, sling cutout shape/location, and the latch profile. Also, no "flange" at bottom of sloped portion. Yours is open. I've been through ~5 repops searching for "the" stocks for a few of mine, only reason it jumped out at me. Eta pic: For comparison .... 
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:09:55 PM EST
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Another way to ID a Colt CAR buttstock....
They will always show 3 mold circles on the stock body, at times faint, but always present: 
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:13:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Aimpoint Comp M/M2 in Wilcox Mount Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN Trijicon RX01 Though I run M2s in std QRP mount with spacer as well as Wilcox. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:15:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Tigwelder1971- Thanks for the lead! So what indicated to you off that my stock was in fact a repop of the N1? Is it the fact that it is missing the two support ribs on each side by the base of the buffer tube or what? |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:18:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: Yes, this is the one I was looking at. I’ve seen some reports about a loose fit. Has that been a problem on Colt milspec tubes? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:23:08 PM EST
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Wow, did not realize there were so many differences. Have you seen these by m&a? They seem to fit the bill. Obviously not authentic N1 but might be a close second at the price point.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:24:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Wow, did not realize there were so many differences. Have you seen these by m&a? They seem to fit the bill. Obviously not authentic N1 but might be a close second at the price point. https://i.imgur.com/x6CLuEF.png |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:25:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Wow, did not realize there were so many differences. Have you seen these by m&a? They seem to fit the bill. Obviously not authentic N1 but might be a close second at the price point. https://i.imgur.com/x6CLuEF.png https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/car-15-buttstock-mil-spec-prod128538.aspx |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:32:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: azfirearms]
[#24]
That stock from Brownells looks pretty nice, not to bad on price. Always nice buying from a reputable source. Maybe I'll just keep watch on the parts/used lower sections of the EE and wait until I find an authentic one for $75-ish, who knows.. Buy Once Cry Once sorta thing.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:32:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: GHOS7]
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I have one of the CAR reproduction stocks on the way. Seller stated it's not branded or N marked. Here's the pic that was on his TS post.
 Attached FileETA: He had multiple but I believe I got the last one he had so this is more than likely not the exact one I'll receive. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:33:29 PM EST
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Looks Legit! Nice find.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:39:09 PM EST
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wissota4 I like the waffle stock, but the feel and look of the N1 style stock is just classic. I guess the same could be argued for the waffle stock. Both perform excellent for their intended purpose, so I guess it just comes down to personal preference. Doesn't hurt to have a spare cage code colt waffle stock laying around for a rainy day build. I'll add it to my exponential list of things to buy...
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:44:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
Wow, did not realize there were so many differences. Have you seen these by m&a? They seem to fit the bill. Obviously not authentic N1 but might be a close second at the price point. https://i.imgur.com/x6CLuEF.png FWIW, several here have reported that the latch pin assy is no longer authentic style parts. The correct parts are available through JSE Surplus for about $8. M&A fit a bit loose, IMO. Eta links; MA PARTS CAR STOCK BROWNELLS/B5 CAR STOCK |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:49:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: GHOS7]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
M&A fit a bit loose, IMO. ETA: Looks like that B5 even has the mold markings. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:56:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Waffle stock would fit the bill too Pre CAGE marked being the best of the bunch. Those mid 2k stocks are the shit. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 9:58:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
This is my main concern with the incoming anonymous stock. I'll try to remember to post some details when I receive and inspect it. ETA: Looks like that B5 even has the mold markings. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
M&A fit a bit loose, IMO. ETA: Looks like that B5 even has the mold markings. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:08:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: azfirearms]
[#32]
All of the waffle stocks I have come across have terrible tolerance on mil-spec buffer tubes. So loose you would think they were made for commercial buffer tubes.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:10:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
All of the waffle stocks I have come across have terrible tolerance on mil-spec buffer tubes. So loose you would think they were made for commercial buffer tubes.  Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:15:01 PM EST
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"One more beer won't hurt" couldn't agree more.
I'll pick up a colt or lmt next time I see one for a decent price on the EE. All of mine have been run of the mill S&W, PSA and other various cheapo's. I had assumed they were all produced by a few vendors(similar to forged uppers) with the only difference being the logos cast into them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:29:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
"One more beer won't hurt" couldn't agree more. I'll pick up a colt or lmt next time I see one for a decent price on the EE. All of mine have been run of the mill S&W, PSA and other various cheapo's. I had assumed they were all produced by a few vendors(similar to forged uppers) with the only difference being the logos cast into them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:52:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: CouchCommando22]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
"One more beer won't hurt" couldn't agree more. I'll pick up a colt or lmt next time I see one for a decent price on the EE. All of mine have been run of the mill S&W, PSA and other various cheapo's. I had assumed they were all produced by a few vendors(similar to forged uppers) with the only difference being the logos cast into them. Here is a Colt grip vs PSA  Attached File Attached File Attached FileReal Colt stock  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 11:17:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
QRP mount ftw. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Aimpoint Comp M/M2 in Wilcox Mount Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN Trijicon RX01 Though I run M2s in std QRP mount with spacer as well as Wilcox.  CD |
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Posted: 8/23/2019 1:10:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azfirearms:
"One more beer won't hurt" couldn't agree more. I'll pick up a colt or lmt next time I see one for a decent price on the EE. All of mine have been run of the mill S&W, PSA and other various cheapo's. I had assumed they were all produced by a few vendors(similar to forged uppers) with the only difference being the logos cast into them. Hit up Chris at SAC, he will hook you up on a Colt waffle. The man is good people. |
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Posted: 8/23/2019 7:31:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Anyone got side by side comparison pics of a 14.5" vs 16" non fsp block2 m4? I've looked, but can't seem to find any.
ETA-pic. Been a while since I posted this little number.  Attached File |
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USA
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Posted: 8/24/2019 12:12:03 AM EST
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2019 1:25:10 PM EST
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Solid company. Thats the company I order cage code upper receivers from. They have some great deals on otherwise hard to find items, fast shipping too.
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Posted: 8/24/2019 3:35:23 PM EST
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I bought one of the B5 SOPMOD Gen 1 stocks from Primary Arms Thursday and received it today. Awesome stock, even came in the military packaging.
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Posted: 8/24/2019 3:44:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter:
I bought one of the B5 SOPMOD Gen 1 stocks from Primary Arms Thursday and received it today. Awesome stock, even came in the military packaging. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137/9BD901F4-9CA6-46C5-84FE-F3732E42FAF0_jpeg-1065812.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137/6D6F97B5-3FDE-44D2-8B0E-30C5E3ADD110_jpeg-1065813.JPG |
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Posted: 8/24/2019 11:30:50 PM EST
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Posted: 8/26/2019 12:03:11 AM EST
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My wife shooting my Block 1 clone at 50 yd range earlier today. Excellent shooting rifle. The 14.5” barrel has less recoil than the 16”’barrel.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2019 12:58:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: PerfectTurn]
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No work means a great time for spring cleaning and I was able to cobble this together with random box finds at the house.
Upper: Colt raised C / raised cardinal, Colt BCG Barrel: Colt 14.5” barrel with KAC M4QD, ADCO spacer p/w’d. The spacer is amazing by the way and this setup still allows an M9 bayonet to be fixed securely, for any future people wondering that. Rail: KAC RAS / VFG Sights: Aimpoint M68 w/ QRP mount, Matech BUIS Lower: Colt ‘M4 CARBINE’ lower w/4 pos tube, H buffer, Colt FCG, grip. I took the N1 stock off my 727, and the SOPMOD off my Mk18 to try but for the life of me cannot decide which direction to go for this build. The SOPMOD is way more balanced even with no junk hanging off the rail. At most I will add an M3x. The N1 looks so skinny with the girthy RAS. I guess I could convince myself to toss an M3x on and then have the SOPMOD for batt storage like I do on the 18? Decisions, decisions, okay back to job hunting! 
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Posted: 8/28/2019 7:26:18 PM EST
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Here's my generic CAR remake. Has faint mold markings. Fit is not snug, but just test fitted on one of my milspec REs. Has a little bit of wobble but not the worst I've seen., guess I can tolerate it.
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Posted: 8/28/2019 7:57:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7:
Here's my generic CAR remake. Has faint mold markings. Fit is not snug, but just test fitted on one of my milspec REs. Has a little bit of wobble but not the worst I've seen., guess I can tolerate it. https://i.imgur.com/Aksw4HY.jpg I'd run it. 
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:28:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Nice re-pop. I'd run it. BTW anyone know who makes the rubber butt pads for these? I've seen at least one user in this thread with one. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:30:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7: Just have to get used to not having that sopmod cheek weld that's all. BTW anyone know who makes the rubber butt pads for these? I've seen at least one user in this thread with one. |
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