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Link Posted: 2/12/2020 4:58:10 PM EST
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I fuck with the 1.5 with Elcan aesthetic.
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 7:31:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
I've seen it a few times, always makes me do a double take. I'm sure it's of no consequence, but still weirds me out.
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

Never saw a Matech mounted forward of optic/on handguard like that.

And us that a UTG rail on the scatter gun?  
I've seen it a few times, always makes me do a double take. I'm sure it's of no consequence, but still weirds me out.
Maybe he just needed a place where he wouldn't lose it?

Looks like he wanted that magnifier as far back as possible for the eye relief.
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 4:00:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 762hunter2:
Anyone have any in the wild pics of a block I with a surefire RC or even just a 4 prong?
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Like previously mentioned these are mostly standard issue M4A1's carried by support personnel that have been converted and outfitted with SOPMOD accessories in-theater. Of course there's always exceptions to that rule and plenty more examples we don't get to see. Here is but a small collection of sightings I happen to have on hand:

























This is what @Combat_Diver posted.



And this is @Stukas87

Link Posted: 2/13/2020 4:09:46 PM EST
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Well, this has me thinking about throwing a SF muzzle on my block 1/1.5 build instead of the KAC.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 1:05:04 AM EST
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Muh clones.

Link Posted: 2/14/2020 1:26:32 AM EST
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Doesnt work here
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 6:31:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Doesnt work here
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734:
Doesnt work here
Right click.....

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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 6:36:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

Right click.....

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/oIPZ3q_p_jpeg_jpg-1275607.JPG
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I am on mobile so thanks for posting that.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:43:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Like previously mentioned these are mostly standard issue M4A1's carried by support personnel that have been converted and outfitted with SOPMOD accessories in-theater. Of course there's always exceptions to that rule and plenty more examples we don't get to see. Here is but a small collection of sightings I happen to have on hand:

https://i.imgur.com/RmoqZwB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/x1RpYeu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hSOccec.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/stvD2xr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/deiw4M5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gYNoAIg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lJ3DLzM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IgPWhRE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iUrtmei.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gjmtQp8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Sh37aEM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cwBnMAM.jpg

This is what @Combat_Diver posted.

https://i.imgur.com/HfT171x.jpg

And this is @Stukas87

https://i.imgur.com/16UqOqG.jpg
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On the road at moment but I’ll post a picture of my M4 at home later

Cd
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 12:20:56 PM EST
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Thanks TigWelder! Can you tell me how you got the photo to show up? I’m new around here but have some good stuff to contribute. Thanks!
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 6:09:48 PM EST
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Swapped around some parts and setup a PR.   Not sure if it will stay for long.  Also just picked up an FSP RIS II so this will probably turn into a Block II, just need to get a 4 prong.





Link Posted: 2/14/2020 6:51:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HD2006:
Swapped around some parts and setup a PR.   Not sure if it will stay for long.  Also just picked up an FSP RIS II so this will probably turn into a Block II, just need to get a 4 prong.

https://i.imgur.com/xbMNdOX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2QH8NUv.jpg

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I love this!  The block II has never interested me.  I just don’t love the added weight.  I’d keep it as is, but now that you have the rail it may need the makeover
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:22:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess:
I love this!  The block II has never interested me.  I just don’t love the added weight.  I’d keep it as is, but now that you have the rail it may need the makeover
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Originally Posted By CaptShiess:
Originally Posted By HD2006:
Swapped around some parts and setup a PR.   Not sure if it will stay for long.  Also just picked up an FSP RIS II so this will probably turn into a Block II, just need to get a 4 prong.

https://i.imgur.com/xbMNdOX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2QH8NUv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0sSLNuz.jpg
I love this!  The block II has never interested me.  I just don’t love the added weight.  I’d keep it as is, but now that you have the rail it may need the makeover
I'm down with a Block II as long as it's FSP. Gets me every time.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 10:32:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:45:51 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/15/2020 11:50:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By amateurarmorer:
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Got damn son nice pic!

Link Posted: 2/15/2020 5:29:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RotorWash109:

Got damn son nice pic!

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Thanks dude! That’s a combo of some of mine and my buddies stuff. We like to cover all bases. Lol.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:10:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By amateurarmorer:
Thanks dude! That’s a combo of some of mine and my buddies stuff. We like to cover all bases. Lol.
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Originally Posted By amateurarmorer:
Originally Posted By RotorWash109:

Got damn son nice pic!

Thanks dude! That’s a combo of some of mine and my buddies stuff. We like to cover all bases. Lol.
I’ll say! You guys have good taste. Also welcome to the site.
Link Posted: 2/18/2020 5:02:21 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/18/2020 9:57:26 PM EST
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Nice and clean!
Link Posted: 2/18/2020 9:58:58 PM EST
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My homage to vegancrossfitter’s classic carpet photos.

Link Posted: 2/20/2020 8:07:02 PM EST
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Black RIS II?
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 11:01:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Black RIS II?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Black RIS II?
Yes tell me more......love the black.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 11:33:40 PM EST
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Has anyone done a LaRue 7" on their rig? I vaguely remember a FF RAS Carbine a while back also but I can't find it now.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 11:58:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:
Has anyone done a LaRue 7" on their rig? I vaguely remember a FF RAS Carbine a while back also but I can't find it now.
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@CMCctx Both of these have been posted before, I believe. *zoom* for the second one.

Fuerzas Commando competition in... 2014? Or '15...



Link Posted: 2/21/2020 3:59:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:

Black RIS II?
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Very dark brown.

CD
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 9:02:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:

@CMCctx Both of these have been posted before, I believe. *zoom* for the second one.

Fuerzas Commando competition in... 2014? Or '15...

http://i.imgur.com/G1Xn6.jpg

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Thanks for those! FF RAS Carbine might win out but the LaRue is tempting. Million dollar question is if I'm building this for my dad, is the extra weight worth the squeeze since he's no spring chicken anymore? I let him use my Operation Gothic Serpent clone but he wasn't liking the chin weld with the Aimpoint 5000 on top of the carry handle.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 11:39:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

Thanks for those! FF RAS Carbine might win out but the LaRue is tempting. Million dollar question is if I'm building this for my dad, is the extra weight worth the squeeze since he's no spring chicken anymore? I let him use my Operation Gothic Serpent clone but he wasn't liking the chin weld with the Aimpoint 5000 on top of the carry handle.
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IIRC, the Larue is pretty much the same weight as the RAS+barrel nut/delta ring assy.

I never noticed an appreciable difference from the LT7 and the RAS weight wise.

Link Posted: 2/21/2020 12:52:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:

IIRC, the Larue is pretty much the same weight as the RAS+barrel nut/delta ring assy.

I never noticed an appreciable difference from the LT7 and the RAS weight wise.

https://i.imgur.com/XPlS6Y1.jpg
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Well, that about wraps it up for me, decision wise. I wasn't too concerned with being 100% correct since the receiver set is UCWRG. Still planning on throwing a Thompson front grip on mine!
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 1:23:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:

IIRC, the Larue is pretty much the same weight as the RAS+barrel nut/delta ring assy.

I never noticed an appreciable difference from the LT7 and the RAS weight wise.

https://i.imgur.com/XPlS6Y1.jpg
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You gotta get the tube mag on your benelli de-gimped!

Nice stuff, love it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 5:09:46 PM EST
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Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

Link Posted: 2/21/2020 5:32:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49566858926_42eb9c5d90_c.jpg
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That receiver will be right at home.

Damn nice looking gun there.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 5:36:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

That receiver will be right at home.

Damn nice looking gun there.
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Thanks Tig!

I have a 37mm barrel en route and will get the receiver swapped out Monday and post some pics with her finished up!!
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 8:31:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49566858926_42eb9c5d90_c.jpg
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Past the M203 and leaf sight, that could be a current M4A1 in use today on the regular Army side.

ETA: Missed the mention of the RIS.  But with a RAS that is a configuration that I have seen used with M203 until the 2012-14 timeframe, without the M203 it’s still in use.
Link Posted: 2/22/2020 10:58:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mb121:

Past the M203 and leaf sight, that could be a current M4A1 in use today on the regular Army side.
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Is anyone using the RIS anymore or is everyone on the RAS?

I thought socom stuck with the RIS over the RAS for awhile in the early 2000s?

Either way, got the AF receiver swapped over, now just awaiting that smoothbore barrel!
Link Posted: 2/22/2020 8:46:14 PM EST
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In my heart, someone somewhere ran a Warcomp on a 1.5.

Link Posted: 2/22/2020 8:50:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CalebWBrink2000:
In my heart, someone somewhere ran a Warcomp on a 1.5.

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Guilty.

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Link Posted: 2/22/2020 11:02:49 PM EST
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Just an idea but if anyone here with knowledge of the SOPMOD program and was one looking for a project the SOPMOD page on Wikipedia seems to be lacking.. is there a good place to read the history of the SOPMOD program (when does block 1.5 start, block 2 start) Lots of good Info in this thread and the block ii thread but seems hard to find concise history source.

When did units start using EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03)?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 1:53:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49566858926_42eb9c5d90_c.jpg
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Great build man! That thing looks awesome.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 1:57:27 PM EST
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Garage floor photo shoot.



Link Posted: 2/24/2020 2:15:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mb121:

Past the M203 and leaf sight, that could be a current M4A1 in use today on the regular Army side.

ETA: Missed the mention of the RIS.  But with a RAS that is a configuration that I have seen used with M203 until the 2012-14 timeframe, without the M203 it’s still in use.
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Thanks for that info!!!
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 2:21:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By amateurarmorer:
Garage floor photo shoot.

https://i.imgur.com/mxTZm8b.jpg

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Oooof, gorgeous.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 1:26:36 AM EST
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What is the correct USMC sling for the M4A1 Block 1?
Thanks-Geo
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 1:36:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By M4A1geo:
What is the correct USMC sling for the M4A1 Block 1?
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Probably the same black sling as the army m4a1 sling block  I.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:45:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DStepec:
Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49566858926_42eb9c5d90_c.jpg
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For a late 90s, ditch the Matech BUIS and Ambi safety.  Should be the KAC 300m BUIS and single sided safety for that period.

CD
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 5:22:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
For a late 90s, ditch the Matech BUIS and Ambi safety.  Should be the KAC 300m BUIS and single sided safety for that period.

CD
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By DStepec:
Question for some of you gents that know the history.  My block 1 inspired build is one of my favorite 'clone' builds but I was rattling around the parts box the other day and found a raised C AF upper, not t-marked, with a '4' (not M4) above the gas tube hole.  I currently have a stamped C keyhole upper on this gun which I know is way too new for the guns years.

Is there anything about this C AF upper I have that would not be USGI correct for the time period of my build?  It doesn't match the lower as well as the keyhole and if it isn't 'correct' (lack of t markings, 4 vs M4, etc), then I won't swap it out.  This is the kind of stuff I come up with jobless to pass the time!

The rest of the parts as as follows:

-Vero Beach RIS
-Modified M203 leaf sight
-CompM2 on a QRP
-Matech BUIS
-Colt 'C' heavy barrel with 203 cuts
-Colt M203
-B5 Gen 1 sopmod
-Colt M4 Carbine lower
-KAC Ambi selector

I think most of what I have going on here would reflect the late 1990's?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49566858926_42eb9c5d90_c.jpg
For a late 90s, ditch the Matech BUIS and Ambi safety.  Should be the KAC 300m BUIS and single sided safety for that period.

CD
Depending on how anal you are, I would ditch the SOPMOD stock for an N1, the heavy barrel,  and probably the Aimpoint.

The SOPMOD wasn't out until the early 2000s.

M68s weren't fielded until early 2000... Some "unit purchase" Comp Ms before then, but not many units rated "unit purchase" optics.

Heavy barrel wasn't out until 2001.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 6:23:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By USGI:

Depending on how anal you are, I would ditch the SOPMOD stock for an N1, the heavy barrel,  and probably the Aimpoint.

The SOPMOD wasn't out until the early 2000s.

M68s weren't fielded until early 2000... Some "unit purchase" Comp Ms before then, but not many units rated "unit purchase" optics.

Heavy barrel wasn't out until 2001.
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SOPMOD started coming out mid 90s as I got it issued in fall of 95' as I deployed to Haiti (about 6 months after getting the M4A1).  I did miss the SOCOM bbl and stock.  We were using Aimpoints in 98' when I went to SFARTAETC.  The Aimpoints replaced the Trijicon Relex.

CD
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 6:26:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

SOPMOD started coming out mid 90s as I got it issued in fall of 95' as I deployed to Haiti (about 6 months after getting the M4A1).  I did miss the SOCOM bbl and stock.  We were using Aimpoints in 98' when I went to SFARTAETC.

CD
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Thank you CD.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 7:52:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

SOPMOD started coming out mid 90s as I got it issued in fall of 95' as I deployed to Haiti (about 6 months after getting the M4A1).  I did miss the SOCOM bbl and stock.  We were using Aimpoints in 98' when I went to SFARTAETC.

CD
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@Combat_Diver my entire carbine is dated on the eve of GWOT. Between August '00 and May '01. So if I understand correctly, KAC 300m is correct I've been looking for a reason to move the MaTech anyway), and someone mentioned not far back that the TA01NSN was fielded during that time?
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 8:03:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CMCctx:

@Combat_Diver my entire carbine is dated on the eve of GWOT. Between August '00 and May '01. So if I understand correctly, KAC 300m is correct I've been looking for a reason to move the MaTech anyway), and someone mentioned not far back that the TA01NSN was fielded during that time?
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Yes, the TA01NSN got fielded in 95'.  I had one on my gun in Haiti then.  I'll post a pic of it later.

CD
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