Going to try out the td grip for a while. Threw on an extra sopmod I had to to help distribute weight. Not sure if they'll stay or not. Thinking about going with an elcan instead of an eotech, which I tend to prefer.

Looks sick BP. stock def. Needs some paint tho if it stays. A CAR or waffle would look good too tho. And agreed on the Elcan. If I could afford it right now id have it on my 1.5 too. Sure are some nice rigs in this thread tho!

I've also trained a lot with both the 9MM and 5.56MM kits - IMHO - they both have their place.  

The 5.56MM kit definitely has certain advantages in being even more realistic in terms of using your own upper, zeroed optics, magazines, etc. - and is much more user-friendly in that way as well when swapping out.  

That being said, running units through with the 5.56MM UTMs - I've seen bores get obstructed with the 5.56MM as well - my unscientific "feeling" from using both is that yes, it does occur more with the 9MM CQT kits - however, as Pook2 mentioned - if you get your bore all clogged up with the 9MM kit, you might get lit up on runs and not be able to shoot back - but when a 5.56MM UTM round is stuck in the actual barrel of your service rifle - you run a decently high risk of damaging your bore when trying to ramrod the round(s) out - particularly when using USGI cleaning rods, or that flimsy brass clearing rod - which inevitably will be the most conveniently available device, and most likely what will end up getting used.  This is all - of course, assuming you notice it before attempting to fire 5.56MM from the weapon.  

FWIW - I had several reasons (not that I had much choice of what Simunitions stuff I could find on the open market - but I've seen the 5.56MM stuff sold before, too) for going with the 9MM CQT kit for my "personal" Simunitions set-up - for one - it's largely a novelty and toy for me on the civilian side - something that I can use to shoot in my garage once in a while when I don't have the time to go out to the range - do some CQB drills, etc.  

Thus, I don't really plan to do much Force on Force training with my personal stuff (ammunition's too expensive, I've only got two guns, individual liability vs. organizational, etc.) - and under these circumstances - I'll likely notice a problem going on and be able to remedy it much sooner than I would if I were training in a FoF environment.  

Meanwhile - going with the 9MM CQT kit offered several advantages in my specific situation -

Given the relatively unpredictable and unreliable supply of marker rounds for Simunitions available on the open market - considering that I wanted to be able to use/train/practice/play with both my M9 and my M4, it made the most sense to go with common ammunition across them both - so I can snap up the 9MM FX/CQT ammunition I can find when I find it, rather than having to look for both different types of ammunition.  

Also - while I mentioned that I didn't plan on doing any FoF with these personally owned guns - nevertheless - as people are sometimes prone to being stupid, etc. - the CQT upper is obvious that it's a Simunitions upper - it has a bright blue barrel, and the magazine is a clear plastic coffin that you can see the marker rounds in without a question.  

While I'd like to think that no one I know or am friends with would be ass dumb enough and disrespectful enough to think "oh, you have Simunitions?  I'm going to shoot someone with it without asking you," - again, stupid people do stupid things - and stupid people are everywhere - in "civilian life" - there's the ever increasing chance of confusion if your training weapon looks too much like your simulation weapon - hence the orange tips, blue markings, etc. - when installed, the UTM 5.56MM marker bolt can only be distinguished from a rifle firing full power 5.56MM by a little blue stripe on the bolt.  

The 9MM CQT kit prevents even the possibility of this particular kind of accident occurring - where someone thinks that a real weapon is a simulation weapon, and goes to shoot someone, and... well, you know how that ends... heck, it happens even with units/groups using 9MM Sims when people get complacent - the physical features of the 9MM kit make it much "safer" in that respect than the 5.56MM UTM.  

Going along with that - at the end of the day - the 9MM FX/CQT ammunition just hurts less than the 5.56MM UTM.    If someone is going to get accidentally (or purposely accidentally) shot, I would once again prefer it to be with the 9MM Sims than the 5.56MM Sims.  Even in a non-deliberate context - needless to say, I'm assuming a certain amount more risk shooting this on "not a range."  

Warpig - I'm kind of surprised by your report of failures occurring 95% of the time... again, I'm know they're not the most reliable systems in the world... but could you clarify what you mean a little more?

Do you mean more along the lines of you would get at least one stoppage or malfunction 95% of the times you used them throughout the duration of a training iteration/evolution - or that they would malfunction 95% of the time you tried to fire them?  I would definitely agree with the former, if not say that it ought to be 100% - it's not "if" you're going to get a stoppage, it's "when" - but if you were getting a malfunction with 95% of the rounds you attempted to fire, I could see that being distraction, and putting a pretty severe limitation on the training value.  

~Augee

OEF 11-12, Kandahar, Arghandab River Valley/Maiwand District

Lots of Block I's, apologies for the iPotato picture


I know, I know, the Matech is in front of the ACOG. This wasn't my rifle, but rather a loaner because my SAW was in a tower; we were lacking a 240 at the time. My battle was kind of a retard and he was made well aware of it

Hell yea. Thread pwnage.

Me and you ate some of the same dirt at the same time

Went back to the CAR and ditched the forward grip, I've never used them but thought I would try it and wasn't a fan. Swapped out the KAC rear for a spare matech I had and put on a fake peq my buddy gave me Going to get a real one sooner or later to complete the clone of my work gun. Have another EXPS on the way but may go back to a TA01NSN at some point. Traded my last one away and regret it. Lastly, I'm going to try a lodestar ordnance A2 grip out on it. Fresh paint looks like shit too so I have to get out this weekend and get it dirty.

Dude... Loving the paint! It will "break" in nicely! Curious why you moved away from the KAC rear. Was it a 300?

Thanks. Yeah, it was a 300. I have a couple and I always lose the plastic inserts and without them I really don't like the sight picture with the huge rear aperture.

Dat 20 round mag doe

For post number 556, I bring you:

....nothing fancy, just a plain vanilla M4. Took this one after an exercise last fall, right before stowing it back in the armory.

Barebones service rifle. I like it. I like it alot.

Not sure if this makes the cut. Colt 6920, KAC RAS, SU-231, KAC 300 rear, SF 300 mini in HSP Dropwing.  Repainted today and came to the conclusion it needs to be sent off to ADCO for a chopping.

Close enough for me man. I'd def. do the barrel chop tho. Maybe get a Matech, and I'd say she's about perfecto. What light mount is that?

I could never go back to the Matech back ups, i got issued a set back in 07 and didn't care for it.  The SF300 is in a HSP Dropwing mount.

In that case, I say just chop the barrel and she's clone correct while setup for your liking at the same time. The KAC is USMC correct anyways so I say she's a pass

Hey, it works

Needs a light, though.

Yes, cut!  This is coming from a guy that just had an lmt 10.5 cut to 10.3

Also, what paint type and color?

Man, that looks nice!

Had the chance to carry this one through the woods for a hour or so today and I'm now considering selling off my Block FSP.

Looks great, secretwheelman. I sold my Block II last year and haven't looked back. Hell, I've sold off most of my ARs now and have my Block 1.5 as my main shooter and am more than content.

Nice 1.5/PR's warpig and wheelman. Only updates on mine are ditched the KNS pins for real oversized pins, put a tape switch on her and have a QR code and A.R.M.S. #17 mount in the works

I'm really starting to consider it.



I've thought about selling my blockII FSP and MRE recce, and associated optics, and getting into an ELCAN or some NV.



 

If I decide to keep the rifle I'll chop it.

Paint is Krylon Sand and Brown

Sold my block ii, too. Came full circle and landed on some light weight block 1's and haven't had a second thought about it. So much easier to carry for extended periods. Just did a 6920 with t1, and a socom that's irons only. Slick combo.

Secret wheelmen, that's why I sold the exps...you need to try a t1. Lightweight and awesome.

You going 14.5 or 14.7?





 

Nods. That's next up. Elcans are cool, but not over nods.

Had a T1 on 2 different rifles, including a BlockII, and sold it. I liked the weight and the battery life, but the EoTech just works better for me.











 

Agreed bro. It's well worth the extra weight for me. Plus I'm a weirdo and like heavy rifles for some reason

Blasphemous heathens!

If I get froggy and have it cut itll be 14.5".   Suppose I could just put in another eForms now.

The only blasphemy here is 2 or 4 MOA reticles! Kidding lol I like aimpoints too, but the EOTech reticle and window make me more effective

I don't know how many of you who have seen this in the Colt 2015 Catalog thread, but this would be the perfect starter package for clones:


Colt 6920s Stripped by twosierra, on Flickr

Lol. I've had them all and the t1 just seems to be the best thus far for me out here on my property and the light weight is really nice when I'm in the timber. Eotech reticle is fast and the big sight picture is certainly nice, I'll probably buy another one someday. I need nods tho.

That's always an option.



I went 14.7 with an A2 for aesthetic reasons only.



 

You should do this for two reasons. 1) the Elcan is awesome, I just picked up a SU-230 and really, really like it thus far. 2) I really really want a KAC MRE.

I know how you feel; they are quite tits. Mine isn't as cool as Augee's, but I like her well enough.







 

Can't argue with that.  I put my Elcan on the PR to see if I liked it but decided against it purely for aesthetic reasons in favor of the Block II.

There's just something about the RAS, isn't there? I find myself drifting towards RAS + FSBs, too.

Word. When it comes down to it, a RAS is plenty effective. And Dat front sight base is a thing of beauty.

You sell the MRE upper and you may just get me back in the game.

Only problem I have is mounting my scout light far enough forward that I don't need a VFG to use it, going to order a IWC mount and see if that solves that problem.

Same with my 951. Its a little bulbous to say the least haha.But I've found that I only prefer a traditional grip on a rifle length upper, so on my 1.5/PR I just use my KAC vert or grip the magwell as a backup. It would be nice to use all 3 tho I must admit.

ETA- Will the HSP Dropwing work for you? It's on Rad OP'S block 1 on the last page if you wanna check it out

I put my M951 on a Gear Sector offset, and use that for a while, it's a great way to clear up space. I would recommend a Larue or IWC offset for the M951 if you don't have a GS on hand, like I did. Only reason I replaced it with my M300B, because it was on a 10.3", and a 10.3"  that weights more than my 14.5" is just wrong.  
I was looking at the Dropwing, as well. I haven't made up my mind 100% between the two. Either one would probably work fine for my needs, so it will likely boil down to which I can buy cheaper off the EE.

I really like the KAC MRE; wish I could find one at a decent price

Haha what if somebody is selling both in the same ad? Then I guess it's time to flip a coin or buy both!