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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:07:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Glitch.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:08:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMCctx: Yes it does. Really clean design and well thought out as far as I can tell. Shit now I'm getting the crazy idea to drop more on one than my RAS. My MRE might have a little brother  https://i.postimg.cc/9fSJnf6h/m4-extended-gun-800x800.jpg Originally Posted By uniform64: The Ergo's do droop but looks to be the correct extension if you're cloning a Force Recon gun https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49253771058_544c01189c_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49253808413_97ecc5ab64_c.jpg not my pic Stop it. Dammit. I spent all that time sourcing YHM Tri rails, convinced myself that the Ergo was not needed and now this shit. Just when you think you're out it pulls you back in. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Yes it does. Really clean design and well thought out as far as I can tell. Shit now I'm getting the crazy idea to drop more on one than my RAS. My MRE might have a little brother https://i.postimg.cc/9fSJnf6h/m4-extended-gun-800x800.jpg damn that looks so good. the ergo seems like a good alternative but i dont like how it droops. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 2:24:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Stop it. Dammit. I spent all that time sourcing YHM Tri rails, convinced myself that the Ergo was not needed and now this shit. Just when you think you're out it pulls you back in. Yea, watching all those Force Recon videos got me
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Stop it. Dammit. I spent all that time sourcing YHM Tri rails, convinced myself that the Ergo was not needed and now this shit. Just when you think you're out it pulls you back in. I've been telling myself to stop all morning  if I look any longer, Cadex is about to gain another dummy who pays that much for one of them.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I've been telling myself to stop all morning if I look any longer, Cadex is about to gain another dummy who pays that much for one of them.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Stop it. Dammit. I spent all that time sourcing YHM Tri rails, convinced myself that the Ergo was not needed and now this shit. Just when you think you're out it pulls you back in. I've been telling myself to stop all morning if I look any longer, Cadex is about to gain another dummy who pays that much for one of them.I'm almost feeling "dumb" enough to FO on one. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:42:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: I'm almost feeling "dumb" enough to FO on one. I'll be dumb if you will! I haven't wanted to add too much crap and just keep mine basic Block 1. This thread keeps dicking up that dream.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 7:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I'll be dumb if you will! I haven't wanted to add too much crap and just keep mine basic Block 1. This thread keeps dicking up that dream.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: I'm almost feeling "dumb" enough to FO on one. I'll be dumb if you will! I haven't wanted to add too much crap and just keep mine basic Block 1. This thread keeps dicking up that dream.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 7:50:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheQuadfather]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: Marines with that old new. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/36C7D74C-F831-499D-9E28-624A680E4DCC_jpe-1500784.JPG Not a Block1 by any means but surprised to see anyone, much less more than one, with the same basic configuration.  |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 8:42:52 PM EDT
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Damn y'all are making me want a Block 1 next... Shoulda jumped on the many uppers that were recently up for sale in the EE...Gotta keep my eyes open from now on!
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USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:10:15 PM EDT
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I'm awaiting my Ergo but might end up selling it and just going the Cadex as it does line up especially on the top rail with the RAS a helluva a lot better than the Ergo appears...............Fuck this thread...
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoRebels: I'm awaiting my Ergo but might end up selling it and just going the Cadex as it does line up especially on the top rail with the RAS a helluva a lot better than the Ergo appears...............Fuck this thread... Glad that I am not alone.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:42:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
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I always get worried when this thread starts poppin' because it usually means it's going to ruin my best laid plans
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USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 10:38:43 PM EDT
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So which is more Clone Correct? I would assume the Ergo is the Old and Cadex the new? So it's an either or situation? How bad does that Ergo droop and can you not shim it some how?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 11:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoRebels: So which is more Clone Correct? I would assume the Ergo is the Old and Cadex the new? So it's an either or situation? How bad does that Ergo droop and can you not shim it some how? Thats what I was thinking of doing. The bottom part rest on the FSB part where the taper pins go. I was thinking using thin brass shims. The Ergo's are the only ones I've seen in pics and videos. Easy to spot because of the taper that butts up against the end cap. 
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Posted: 7/15/2020 11:26:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: Thats what I was thinking of doing. The bottom part rest on the FSB part where the taper pins go. I was thinking using thin brass shims. The Ergo's are the only ones I've seen in pics and videos. Easy to spot because of the taper that butts up against the end cap. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49001750121_b6ffb27a08_b.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: Originally Posted By GoRebels: So which is more Clone Correct? I would assume the Ergo is the Old and Cadex the new? So it's an either or situation? How bad does that Ergo droop and can you not shim it some how? Thats what I was thinking of doing. The bottom part rest on the FSB part where the taper pins go. I was thinking using thin brass shims. The Ergo's are the only ones I've seen in pics and videos. Easy to spot because of the taper that butts up against the end cap. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49001750121_b6ffb27a08_b.jpg Damn fine rifle!! When mine arrives I'm a play with it and if you come up with something post up thanks............... |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 11:49:30 PM EDT
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Here are some close ups of the mount area. The droop is bothersome but I can learn to live with it. I also like the fact it has 6 bolts.
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USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 12:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: Here are some close ups of the mount area. The droop is bothersome but I can learn to live with it. I also like the fact it has 6 bolts. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50118164042_a8eb9de9fe_b.jpg So it looks like it all is based off how horizontal cut inside the FSB runs, or at least in relationship to the barrel. Be really cool to make the adjustment there by milling and forget about shims. How about a set screw tapped into the clamp that you could tighten until things level off? Interesting problem to solve... |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 2:04:41 AM EDT
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I think had they left the rear solid without the cut out for the swivel and remove the swivel ears, this would have been perfect. Or at least better to work with.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 8:07:34 AM EDT
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I think the way Cadex addressed that was to make it fit on the KAC RAS only so they could make the rear of the extension interface with the front of the RAS to eliminate droop.
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Posted: 7/16/2020 10:33:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
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This is where mine sits these days.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 10:48:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: This is where mine sits these days. https://i.postimg.cc/rFkwkZg7/7705-CF33-4-ABE-428-D-B167-6-C591-F22-CA2-D.jpg That's sick! That's the second NF/FSB combo in two days. I think that's the best look to date, if I'm being honest. Conceptually it sounds weird, but just plain works. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 12:40:52 PM EDT
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here is how mine sits, swapping the stock out for a Coyote B5 sopmod ASAP, and just need to get a light setup. https://imgur.com/gallery/RKT6qSz
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2020 12:45:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378: This is where mine sits these days. https://i.postimg.cc/rFkwkZg7/7705-CF33-4-ABE-428-D-B167-6-C591-F22-CA2-D.jpg I am a block I M4 fan for life.....this gets me all hot and bothered.... |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 1:11:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nritzell: here is how mine sits, swapping the stock out for a Coyote B5 sopmod ASAP, and just need to get a light setup. https://imgur.com/gallery/RKT6qSz Nice!! |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:25:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I think the way Cadex addressed that was to make it fit on the KAC RAS only so they could make the rear of the extension interface with the front of the RAS to eliminate droop. https://i.postimg.cc/85sVG54Z/m4-extended-800x800.jpg Yeah that's pretty slick and a smart way to do it. It's cool but why not just run a DD RIS II FSP? (rhetorical = because clones) I suppose these add-on rails are popular because it's just a "bolt on" rather than having to swap the entire rail. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 12:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Yeah that's pretty slick and a smart way to do it. It's cool but why not just run a DD RIS II FSP? (rhetorical = because clones) I suppose these add-on rails are popular because it's just a "bolt on" rather than having to swap the entire rail. It's for sure the more expensive and longer way to the same destination. I'm only interested because I prefer the classic look the majority of the time. I have thought about going the Block II route, but my MRE scratches that itch for me. Then again, knowing that I prefer the standard aesthetic over an extension makes me leery to spend that much on something that won't live on the carbine. Maybe I'll get it and change my mind. Who knows. I wonder if it matches up with a FF RAS. I've toyed with the thought of getting a carbine version for my Block I (which would kick me out of clone territory but it be like that sometimes). |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 1:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: It's for sure the more expensive and longer way to the same destination. I'm only interested because I prefer the classic look the majority of the time. I have thought about going the Block II route, but my MRE scratches that itch for me. Then again, knowing that I prefer the standard aesthetic over an extension makes me leery to spend that much on something that won't live on the carbine. Maybe I'll get it and change my mind. Who knows. I wonder if it matches up with a FF RAS. I've toyed with the thought of getting a carbine version for my Block I (which would kick me out of clone territory but it be like that sometimes). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Yeah that's pretty slick and a smart way to do it. It's cool but why not just run a DD RIS II FSP? (rhetorical = because clones) I suppose these add-on rails are popular because it's just a "bolt on" rather than having to swap the entire rail. It's for sure the more expensive and longer way to the same destination. I'm only interested because I prefer the classic look the majority of the time. I have thought about going the Block II route, but my MRE scratches that itch for me. Then again, knowing that I prefer the standard aesthetic over an extension makes me leery to spend that much on something that won't live on the carbine. Maybe I'll get it and change my mind. Who knows. I wonder if it matches up with a FF RAS. I've toyed with the thought of getting a carbine version for my Block I (which would kick me out of clone territory but it be like that sometimes). In a moment of weakness, I almost FOd on one Saturday. I talked myself out of it....for now. Would love to happen onto one secondhand. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: In a moment of weakness, I almost FOd on one Saturday. I talked myself out of it....for now. Would love to happen onto one secondhand. I think I'm 99% on board with one. I'll report my findings. Matching up with the RAS was the deciding factor. Not-so-poor-mans MRE. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 3:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: I think I'm 99% on board with one. I'll report my findings. Matching up with the RAS was the deciding factor. Not-so-poor-mans MRE. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: In a moment of weakness, I almost FOd on one Saturday. I talked myself out of it....for now. Would love to happen onto one secondhand. I think I'm 99% on board with one. I'll report my findings. Matching up with the RAS was the deciding factor. Not-so-poor-mans MRE. You first. I like that idea. I just like the old school shit. The RAS compatibility definitely has a lure. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: You first. I like that idea. I just like the old school shit. The RAS compatibility definitely has a lure. Well, early birthday present secured They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.
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Posted: 7/20/2020 7:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Well, early birthday present secured They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: You first. I like that idea. I just like the old school shit. The RAS compatibility definitely has a lure. Well, early birthday present secured They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.Shit. In for details/pics. Holy rape on shipping man. 
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:34:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Well, early birthday present secured They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: You first. I like that idea. I just like the old school shit. The RAS compatibility definitely has a lure. Well, early birthday present secured They really hit you over the head with shipping, as if the price wasn't already damn near an insult $37.38 for standard.Jeebus. Is the owner personally driving it over and giving you a handy as a way to say "thanks"?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 8:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Jeebus. Is the owner personally driving it over and giving you a handy as a way to say "thanks"? Don't worry, I put it in the order notes 
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 11:01:43 PM EDT
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What is needed to pin and weld a A2 flash hider to 14.5 inch barrel? Spacer or shims?
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Posted: 7/20/2020 11:22:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P51D_katydid: What is needed to pin and weld a A2 flash hider to 14.5 inch barrel? Spacer or shims? You will need a spacer to get it over the 16" min. Always measure 3x. CD |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 5:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P51D_katydid: What is needed to pin and weld a A2 flash hider to 14.5 inch barrel? Spacer or shims? LINK |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 2:27:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Don't worry, I put it in the order notes Blame Canada... |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 11:41:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P51D_katydid: What is needed to pin and weld a A2 flash hider to 14.5 inch barrel? Spacer or shims? An extended A2 has some benefits such as a bayonet will still mount to it, you won't have the spacer lines visible and an extended A2 is really not that noticeable as extended. Retro Arms did one for me on another build and you can barely tell it's pin/welded. He re-parks the front of the barrel, from the cut forward, after he does the install. |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 11:57:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: An extended A2 has some benefits such as a bayonet will still mount to it, you won't have the spacer lines visible and an extended A2 is really not that noticeable as extended. Retro Arms did one for me on another build and you can barely tell it's pin/welded. He re-parks the front of the barrel, from the cut forward, after he does the install. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: Originally Posted By P51D_katydid: What is needed to pin and weld a A2 flash hider to 14.5 inch barrel? Spacer or shims? An extended A2 has some benefits such as a bayonet will still mount to it, you won't have the spacer lines visible and an extended A2 is really not that noticeable as extended. Retro Arms did one for me on another build and you can barely tell it's pin/welded. He re-parks the front of the barrel, from the cut forward, after he does the install. If I were going to P&W an A2 on an M4/M4A1 MWS, I'd do an extended A2 for the bayonet compatibility. I know it doesn't look right, but a spacer doesn't either. If you are doing a Block I M4A1, the M4QD is longer than the A2 but it's still a hair short. You would need about .13"+ thick of shims (total) to get it to 16". |
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Posted: 7/22/2020 4:39:23 PM EDT
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This thread is a bad influence. I was going to keep my Colt rifles new in box but I decided, after revisiting this discussion, that my SOPMOD collection needs to be taken out of storage and put on a rifle (s). So I am going to start with a 2018 SOCOM and my SOPMOD (early) collection/configuration.
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Posted: 7/22/2020 5:34:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: This thread is a bad influence. I was going to keep my Colt rifles new in box but I decided, after revisiting this discussion, that my SOPMOD collection needs to be taken out of storage and put on a rifle (s). So I am going to start with a 2018 SOCOM and my SOPMOD (early) collection/configuration. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20200722_153412_jpg-1514736.JPG Showboat.
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Posted: 7/22/2020 5:40:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Showboat. Your fault.. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 5:42:53 PM EDT
[#44]
No, smart. These things deserve to be built! Do your part and save a rifle and parts from a box today!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2020 5:46:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#45]
Ergo M4 forward rail extension in the EE if someone is smart enough to not pay close to $300 with shipping for a Cadex
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Your fault.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Showboat. Your fault.. Maybe partially. 
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Posted: 7/22/2020 6:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Ergo M4 forward rail extension in the EE if someone is smart enough to not pay close to $300 with shipping for a Cadex Not mine Saw that as well. Extension cant makes me 
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USA
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Posted: 7/23/2020 6:59:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Saw that as well. Extension cant makes me Well, I always thought the Force Recon rifles with the extensions were nifty - so, I bought it. I've been scouring the Internet for pictures/videos of the rifle for some inspiration. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2020 7:52:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By We_The_People: Well, I always thought the Force Recon rifles with the extensions were nifty - so, I bought it. I've been scouring the Internet for pictures/videos of the rifle for some inspiration. You're a smarter man than I |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 8:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: You're a smarter man than I You definitely got me on some of your other builds in the GWOT thread. I'm going on a high power kick, so the most of my discretionary funds are going to stocking up on reloading components. |
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