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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: M150? Never heard of one. Happen to have a visual? View Quote https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta31rco-m150cp-g ![]() |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Or the comp m2 m68 cco is also an early mws around 1998 or 1999 when the m4 rolled out in the 82nd. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By pezboytate: Like the pictures you posted. Proper optic would be a CompM4, CompM4S, or M150. Or the comp m2 m68 cco is also an early mws around 1998 or 1999 when the m4 rolled out in the 82nd. He said SOCOM barrel. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: He said SOCOM barrel. View Quote Gotcha. Have a headache. Been having seizures past couple days and kinda out of it so missed it. Please excuse my error. We all have bad days . You are correct. The comp m4 m68cco and ta31 m150 would be correct with the m4a1 socom barrel. I should really get off my phone and be sleeping, but I am damn stubborn and don't want to. |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Gotcha. Have a headache. Been having seizures past couple days and kinda out of it so missed it. Please excuse my error. We all have bad days . You are correct. The comp m4 m68cco and ta31 m150 would be correct with the m4a1 socom barrel. I should really get off my phone and be sleeping, but I am damn stubborn and don't want to. View Quote Take a break and get better man, I understand what you're going through. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta31rco-m150cp-g https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/TA31RCO-M150CP-G_90-1466-1566312650_jpg-1989806.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: M150? Never heard of one. Happen to have a visual? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta31rco-m150cp-g https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/TA31RCO-M150CP-G_90-1466-1566312650_jpg-1989806.JPG TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: M150 is the complete kit just like the m68cco View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. M150 is the complete kit just like the m68cco Copy that. Thanks. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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RCO-A4 and RCO-M4 are USMC. M150 is virtually identical to the RCO-M4 but has lens caps and different markings.
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
Can't never could 'til try came along.
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: More parts coming in and getting ready to build a closer to correct lower. Still need a Side Sling mount unless the CQD is g2g on Block 1 (intended for my block 2), to swap flashhider out and then a regular charging handle Edit: and a more kosher block 1 light https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/20210624_155213-1990058.jpg View Quote Looking good. |
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: More parts coming in and getting ready to build a closer to correct lower. Still need a Side Sling mount unless the CQD is g2g on Block 1 (intended for my block 2), to swap flashhider out and then a regular charging handle Edit: and a more kosher block 1 light https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/20210624_155213-1990058.jpg View Quote I would use the side sling swivel |
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Can try this one
https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ View Quote HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. |
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Can't never could 'til try came along.
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. View Quote I have had good experiences from them and the sling swivels are in stock. Only issues I know of are custom orders taking a while. But yes the rra option is a solid option as well. |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon |
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon View Quote they were in stock a few weeks ago. If set on colt they pop up from time to time. |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Following the USMC adoption of the TA-31RCOM4 and TA-31RCOA4, the Army replaced its TA31F's with TA31RCOM150. The significant difference between the legacy TA31F ACOG's and the 'new' M150 was the reticle. The new reticle has horizontal stadia lines that assist with range estimation and enables a soldier, Marine, etc to call out indirect fire adjustments without taking their eye off of the target/optic.
![]() ![]() ![]() As a sidenote, my Infantry battalion had TA31F's briefly, TA31M4's and then got fielded TA31M150's. The TA31M4's were deployment issued RFI but were not authorized by Army MTOE and were replaced by the TA31RCOM150's. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Following the USMC adoption of the TA-31RCOM4 and TA-31RCOA4, the Army replaced its TA31F's with TA31RCOM150. The significant difference between the legacy TA31F ACOG's and the 'new' M150 was the reticle. The new reticle has horizontal stadia lines that assist with range estimation and enables a soldier, Marine, etc to call out indirect fire adjustments without taking their eye off of the target/optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-121133_Drive_jpg-1991982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-122145_Hancom_Office-1991983.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-122915_Google_jpg-1991984.JPG As a sidenote, my Infantry battalion had TA31F's briefly, TA31M4's and then got fielded TA31M150's. The TA31M4's were deployment issued RFI but were not authorized by Army MTOE and were replaced by the TA31RCOM150's. View Quote Good info. Thanks man. |
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Stripped Upper Receiver Score!
DSA Receiver I received an email notification for the DSA Stripped Upper Sale Price at $33 each. The picture shows the split A forge code upper. I ordered 2 because of the price including T Marks which were more expensive the last year. They arrived today and the big score is; They are Mueller forge code! The last M forge code upper I bought from DSA was 3 years ago. The price is back up to $62. ![]() @reswob ![]() |
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If U can't Truck It F!@k It!
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What do the top T markings look like?
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Originally Posted By uniform64: Yes, in relation to the barrel line. Should be easy enough to shim it up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uniform64: Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Meaning in relation to the barrel line? I think I can sort of see it in your pics. That would bug me but it's a cool idea. Yes, in relation to the barrel line. Should be easy enough to shim it up Realize this wouldn't work for a proper clone, but I got rid of the downward cant ny sliding on my Spikes 37mm, both over my KAC rail and the Ergo extension. Got the Havoc tightened on and then finally tightened down the Ergo. ![]() |
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A very wise man once said, the only difference between a brown-noser and a shithead is depth perception . . .
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Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it.
It's just dust on the receiver not marks. ![]() |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it. It's just dust on the receiver not marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/2021-07-1017_12_076301409212231235474_jp-2008988.JPG View Quote Nice! I wanted one since it is the model I was issued, but I ended up with 2 M4A1 lowers that will have to do. I think I paid $59.99 each just before everything blew up. I had plans for 1 lower and was saving the other for a future build. But I couldn't and replaced my issued M4 clone Anderson lower with the M4A1 PSA lower. Dam BRD! |
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If U can't Truck It F!@k It!
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it. It's just dust on the receiver not marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/2021-07-1017_12_076301409212231235474_jp-2008988.JPG View Quote These honestly look nicer than the new engraved Colt lowers. At least in pictures. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: These honestly look nicer than the new engraved Colt lowers. At least in pictures. View Quote It's a nice stripped lower. I have used psa stripped lowers several times in past and always been top notch. Mutch better than the newer cr colt rifles I have seen. |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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are the new ACOG reticles available ? they are cool
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as for the m952, is tan correct?
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“The only thing necessary for the triump of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: Early 00’s CAG build in progress. https://i.imgur.com/rTA9MsO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/is3myRe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vxqX4yL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HODPEaG.jpg View Quote legit |
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Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon The Colt side sling is currently "In Stock" right now at Brownells... I just ordered one.. Search for: COLT - Tactical Sling Mount, Front |
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While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount.
My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. |
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Trust me, I used to be with the Government
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I retired from the Army in May of 2020. My last gig was in a light infantry battalion. Our authorized/issued optics were a mix of Aimpoint M4s, Aimpoint M4 and ACOG M150's. There were not any issued mounts or MRDS on our table of authorized equipment. Units like the 10th Mountain, 82nd or 101st might have an authorization for something. The SOPMOD program has the ECOS with the top mounted MRDS.
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Originally Posted By Guntoter: While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount. My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. View Quote I have seen no use of Regular Army using a MRD. SOCOM did use a MRD piggyback on top of the TA01NSN. CD |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Units like the 10th Mountain, 82nd or 101st might have an authorization for something. View Quote You looking for a fight with that association? ![]() I did 82nd time a few years back. The very few offset dots I saw (all of two) were personal purchases. When with USASOC, I saw as many personal purchases (lots of Vortex) as repurposed issued optics (Docters/Inisght MRDS/T1/T2) as offsets. As far as I know, there is no offset RDS that will be "official" on Army MWS clones other than maybe the random COTS purchases that wound up in arms room during the earlier GWOT (think ACOGs with factory MRDSs/Docs - I saw some big Army dog handlers with those) days and are still on the books. Don't overthink the clone aspect, just do what you want to make your rifle work for you. Some dude at some point over the last 20 years has probably done it anyway. |
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Thanks to the posters above who responded with real world observations and knowledge and advice, I do plan to have this rifle usable and not just for photos, hence an offset. The top mounted RMR on the ACOG just puts too much height for what I want. I did not think the military officially used the offsets, but wanted to be sure. I nearly got the TA01NSN since it has iron sights built in for close in work and is more clone approved but felt that was not really the way to go, plus that ACOG has no illumination in daylight or lighted conditions. I will for sure use an RMR, probably the RM01 with 3.25 dot, but the offset mount is still up in the air. I'll post photos when I get it done.
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Trust me, I used to be with the Government
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Originally Posted By Guntoter: While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount. My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. View Quote As an additional bit of anecdotal into, I was mechanized infantry for all but 2-3 years. The only optics I ever saw issued on our M4s and M4A1s were the M68 CCO, CompM4, TA-31 ACOG and Eotech 512. Some guys stole an M145 from a SAW in a couple cases, but that's it from the units I was in. ACOGs with RMRs were rare for us, but around. 2007-2019 |
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At some point here I’ll swap out this upper for a cage code one, and still need to grab some clips for the bfg sling for it.
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Harden The F*ck Up
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I guess I morphed my Block 1 into an MWS. Changed out the M68 CCO clone to an ACOG M150 with an ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 and added an offset RM06.
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Trust me, I used to be with the Government
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@Combat_Diver
Hadn’t seen this addressed, any thoughts/feedback on the MMC SOCOM barrels that keep popping up? Are they something you’ve seen in the supply chain or are they some sort of reject? https://www.deltateamtactical.com/ar-15-556-nato-145-ar-barrel-designed-to-military-specs.html |
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No one could take His life, He laid it down for me,
That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me, But after three days, out of the ground for me, He overcame it all, now I live to serve Him |
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