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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Lots of nice clones here. Hopefully we won’t need to stamp SBRs in the near future but that’s for another thread. I am gathering parts for the last carbine I was ever issued and used on my last deployment in the Navy. Some parts coming and know exactly what I need with the exception of the optic. The weapons kit was issued with an Aimpoint CompM in a Wilcox Mount but don’t remember if it was a 2 or 3. This was 2013. Does anyone know which would be appropriate for this? Either? I had my custody receipt for the kit somewhere but can’t seem to find it now. Comp M2 was introduced in Y2k. I suppose Comp Ms were probably still in the supply chain though. |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Lots of nice clones here. Hopefully we won’t need to stamp SBRs in the near future but that’s for another thread. I am gathering parts for the last carbine I was ever issued and used on my last deployment in the Navy. Some parts coming and know exactly what I need with the exception of the optic. The weapons kit was issued with an Aimpoint CompM in a Wilcox Mount but don’t remember if it was a 2 or 3. This was 2013. Does anyone know which would be appropriate for this? Either? I had my custody receipt for the kit somewhere but can’t seem to find it now. No expert on what big blue water Navy issued. I would assume the M2 however. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Comp M2 was introduced in Y2k. I suppose Comp Ms were probably still in the supply chain though. Yea this thing was beat up and had the round RFID tag Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: No expert on what big blue water Navy issued. I would assume the M2 however. Was issued via NSW if that matters to which model it would be |
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Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
No one could take His life, He laid it down for me,
That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me,
But after three days, out of the ground for me,
He overcame it all, now I live to serve Him
That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me,
But after three days, out of the ground for me,
He overcame it all, now I live to serve Him
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8041_jpeg-3581358.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8042_jpeg-3581359.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7971_jpeg-3581360.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7962_jpeg-3581361.JPG Sounds just like the M1 Carbine, parts made by everyone. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Sounds just like the M1 Carbine, parts made by everyone. Since you're the guy in the know, are there any other uppers other than Demco/FN I should keep my eye out for? |
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But after three days, out of the ground for me,
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That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me,
But after three days, out of the ground for me,
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Oh yeah, that's the stuff! How does the rest of the build look to you guys? The stock is an LMT, is that a little better than a B5 SOPMOD? I have the NT4 flash hider, even though I'll likely never own a Corn Cob. I'm also working on Little Brother Upper to go with this gun. https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg I'll bump this post to ask about the buttstock in particular. I have a line on a B5 SOPMOD stock without that qd cup, is that correct for Block 1? Or is my LMT acceptable as is? |
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I'll bump this post to ask about the buttstock in particular. I have a line on a B5 SOPMOD stock without that qd cup, is that correct for Block 1? Or is my LMT acceptable as is? Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Oh yeah, that's the stuff! How does the rest of the build look to you guys? The stock is an LMT, is that a little better than a B5 SOPMOD? I have the NT4 flash hider, even though I'll likely never own a Corn Cob. I'm also working on Little Brother Upper to go with this gun. <a href="[url]https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg">https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg <a href="[url]https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg">https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg <a href="[url]https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg">https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg <a href="[url]https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg">https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg I'll bump this post to ask about the buttstock in particular. I have a line on a B5 SOPMOD stock without that qd cup, is that correct for Block 1? Or is my LMT acceptable as is? |
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: B5 didn't get the contract until 2011. Well after the Block 1 was over with. Correct manufacturer for the SOPMOD stock for the block 1 program would be Crane and LMT. Originally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: Oh yeah, that's the stuff! How does the rest of the build look to you guys? The stock is an LMT, is that a little better than a B5 SOPMOD? I have the NT4 flash hider, even though I'll likely never own a Corn Cob. I'm also working on Little Brother Upper to go with this gun. https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/F3EvIZf.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/K5N7H9D.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/drUI98m.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg">[url]https://i.imgur.com/tAIaQg6.jpeg I'll bump this post to ask about the buttstock in particular. I have a line on a B5 SOPMOD stock without that qd cup, is that correct for Block 1? Or is my LMT acceptable as is? LMT, with the QD cups? Or a previous generation? |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Since you're the guy in the know, are there any other uppers other than Demco/FN I should keep my eye out for? Diemaco Colt Mueller (Dog Bone) |
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Late to the party but here's my first M4/M4A1 SOPMODish attempt. Have been wanting to do one for a while now. I was on teams during the A2 era, '88-'92, and always thought it was the wrong long gun for SF, even white teams. By the time M4 and SOPMOD came around I was doing staff stuff and only got to fire for orientation, never was issued. Still, it's an itch that needs scratching  I recently picked up an LE trade in LE6920 from AIM that was going to be the basis for the build. Found a Colt 14.5 barrel and was just going to swap out the 16 and go from there. Then spotted a local seller with an "M4 Carbine" rollmarked lower and that just looked so much cooler than the LE only rollmark, so I grabbed it. Then I needed a salty Colt upper (found one on GB), a salty KAC RAS (found one locally), and a KAC BUIS (found a 200-600 on the EE). I had the ACOG on an A4 clone so I moved that over (the A4 will become a sort of "pre" Mk12 designated marksman build). Have a side swivel in bound from the EE and an ambi safety from PSA. Will look for a light (SF M951/2?) and that will about do it for me. Not crazy about the VFG and not going to paint it. FH is a BCM A2X, pin & weld done by John Thomas Retro Arms Works. The build so far:      |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
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Originally Posted By ColdBeerHere: @seamasterpro Care to share a source for the P&S? the top rail came from the EE, bottom came from Mod Armory |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: the top rail came from the EE, bottom came from Mod Armory Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Originally Posted By ColdBeerHere: @seamasterpro Care to share a source for the P&S? the top rail came from the EE, bottom came from Mod Armory Dang. I had hoped it wasn't them (OOS). Sitting here with a naked upper. |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: the top rail came from the EE, bottom came from Mod Armory @seamasterpro Much I've always avoided them due to having a feeling that they may be a scam site. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @seamasterpro Much expensive with MA? I've always avoided them due to having a feeling that they may be a scam site. $125 for the NOS KAC lower rail still in the bag, I hadn't ordered from them in a few years but don't recall ever having a problem, I ordered some Norotos Rhino IIs from them in the past. |
No one could take His life, He laid it down for me,
That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me,
But after three days, out of the ground for me,
He overcame it all, now I live to serve Him
That twisted wreath of thorns, yea He took that crown for me,
But after three days, out of the ground for me,
He overcame it all, now I live to serve Him
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Carl wants his scope back! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_1664_jpeg-3583238.JPG That's one way to reuse leftover equipment. |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: $125 for the NOS KAC lower rail still in the bag, I hadn't ordered from them in a few years but don't recall ever having a problem, I ordered some Norotos Rhino IIs from them in the past. Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @seamasterpro Much expensive with MA? I've always avoided them due to having a feeling that they may be a scam site. $125 for the NOS KAC lower rail still in the bag, I hadn't ordered from them in a few years but don't recall ever having a problem, I ordered some Norotos Rhino IIs from them in the past. Thanks man. Experience is what I meant to type, looks like I fat fingered that post. 
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Block II prototype is finally functional, barrel came in a few hours ago. 10/07 date code so just outside of being clone correct, but considering the rail and charging handle aren't either it's acceptable to me (and it does fit in with the time frame for the rail, so it kinda counts). Still missing a Colt bcg and the accessories, but I can get used to the irons in the meantime. Incredibly well balanced, the handguard is incredibly light weight. Only weighs around half a pound. I'll get a proper clone lower probably after the first, don't feel like paying for a form 1 if they're gonna be free in five months. Next on the list is the bcg and then an SU-237. Also got the Shurer build coming along, hope to have both uppers complete by the Clone Rifles shoot in October.   2007 Colt gov profile 14.5" barrel 2004 Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus Original Crane tested A.R.M.S. #40L tan anodized prototype, circa late 2004-early 2005 AFSOC issued A.R.M.S. #50M-CV tan anodized, 2007-2009 time frame PRI Gasbuster military latch charging handle CQD front sling mount TangoDown BGV-MK46, modified to fit the S.I.R. lower rail panel Lower isn't correct, it's just the only SBR lower I've got since the upper isn't pinned |
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Block II prototype is finally functional, barrel came in a few hours ago. 10/07 date code so just outside of being clone correct, but considering the rail and charging handle aren't either it's acceptable to me (and it does fit in with the time frame for the rail, so it kinda counts). Still missing a Colt bcg and the accessories, but I can get used to the irons in the meantime. Incredibly well balanced, the handguard is incredibly light weight. Only weighs around half a pound. I'll get a proper clone lower probably after the first, don't feel like paying for a form 1 if they're gonna be free in five months. Next on the list is the bcg and then an SU-237. Also got the Shurer build coming along, hope to have both uppers complete by the Clone Rifles shoot in October. https://i.imgur.com/juSx2pc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/97o0RQR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/abbFCqM.jpeg 2007 Colt gov profile 14.5" barrel 2004 Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus Original Crane tested A.R.M.S. #40L tan anodized prototype, circa late 2004-early 2005 AFSOC issued A.R.M.S. #50M-CV tan anodized, 2007-2009 time frame PRI Gasbuster military latch charging handle CQD front sling mount TangoDown BGV-MK46, modified to fit the S.I.R. lower rail panel Lower isn't correct, it's just the only SBR lower I've got since the upper isn't pinned What butt pad is that? |
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Originally Posted By Jeff55: What butt pad is that? Originally Posted By Jeff55: Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Block II prototype is finally functional, barrel came in a few hours ago. 10/07 date code so just outside of being clone correct, but considering the rail and charging handle aren't either it's acceptable to me (and it does fit in with the time frame for the rail, so it kinda counts). Still missing a Colt bcg and the accessories, but I can get used to the irons in the meantime. Incredibly well balanced, the handguard is incredibly light weight. Only weighs around half a pound. I'll get a proper clone lower probably after the first, don't feel like paying for a form 1 if they're gonna be free in five months. Next on the list is the bcg and then an SU-237. Also got the Shurer build coming along, hope to have both uppers complete by the Clone Rifles shoot in October. https://i.imgur.com/juSx2pc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/97o0RQR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/abbFCqM.jpeg 2007 Colt gov profile 14.5" barrel 2004 Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus Original Crane tested A.R.M.S. #40L tan anodized prototype, circa late 2004-early 2005 AFSOC issued A.R.M.S. #50M-CV tan anodized, 2007-2009 time frame PRI Gasbuster military latch charging handle CQD front sling mount TangoDown BGV-MK46, modified to fit the S.I.R. lower rail panel Lower isn't correct, it's just the only SBR lower I've got since the upper isn't pinned What butt pad is that? John Masen If I am not mistaken. |
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I did something very stupid today and ordered a Colt M4A1. I play to put my spare TA31RCO on it. I already have a working gun and now I have another lol. Does anyone know if the Colt SOCOM comes with a USGI sling? I'm thinking of also ordering the longer 70+ inches usgi sling. |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8041_jpeg-3581358.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8042_jpeg-3581359.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7971_jpeg-3581360.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7962_jpeg-3581361.JPG A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. Attached File For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3D679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG |
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3D679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG FN CAGE is 3S679. |
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Same reason they've got UCP IOTVs and M16A2s (or even A1s), they get hand-me-downs and whatever's lying around in inventory. The guns work fine with irons, no sense in buying them a bunch of optics on guns that aren't expected to actually be used in combat. Units that deployed to the Middle East did get ACOGs and PEQs and stuff, but the majority of units that stayed stateside didn't really need to spend that money gearing up. As M4A1s get phased out for the infantry the optics and accessories on those will most likely go to the National Guard and Reserves ah gotcha, that makes sense Originally Posted By TGWLDR: FN CAGE is 3S679. updated, thanks for the correction |
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But after three days, out of the ground for me,
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8041_jpeg-3581358.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8042_jpeg-3581359.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7971_jpeg-3581360.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7962_jpeg-3581361.JPG A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG Do those guys not have any mags beyond what's in the weapon? Ain't no way I'd be on riot patrol without extra ammo. |
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Same reason they've got UCP IOTVs and M16A2s (or even A1s), they get hand-me-downs and whatever's lying around in inventory. The guns work fine with irons, no sense in buying them a bunch of optics on guns that aren't expected to actually be used in combat. Units that deployed to the Middle East did get ACOGs and PEQs and stuff, but the majority of units that stayed stateside didn't really need to spend that money gearing up. As M4A1s get phased out for the infantry the optics and accessories on those will most likely go to the National Guard and Reserveslike their Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3D679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Do those guys not have any mags beyond what's in the weapon? Ain't no way I'd be on riot patrol without extra ammo. Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8041_jpeg-3581358.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8042_jpeg-3581359.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7971_jpeg-3581360.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7962_jpeg-3581361.JPG A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG Do those guys not have any mags beyond what's in the weapon? Ain't no way I'd be on riot patrol without extra ammo. The chances of them having ammo in those mags is very low. Most likely, they have an assault bag and their FLC in the Humvee with some extra mags, albeit probably empty mags. |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: The chances of them having ammo in those mags is very low. Most likely, they have an assault bag and their FLC in the Humvee with some extra mags, albeit probably empty mags. Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Originally Posted By seamasterpro: Here my "contract parts" M4A1, I tried to get a bunch of new or NOS clone correct parts that had CAGE code markings, still need a marked upper receiver and I have a Colt M4 lower but need to pin/weld or SBR so I can use it. 04099 - Capco - barrel 13629 - Colt - bolt, upper, carry handle, lower parts 7YV73 - KAK - BCG parts 1B1B6 - Toolcraft - bolt carrier 4U486 - P&S Products - M4 RAS upper 1S002 - KAC - M4 RAS lower 83005 - Wilson - side swivel 8FW25 - Prudent American - stock 1ZE51 - Demco - charging handle 3X9S8 - Blue Force Gear - sling 20014 - General Cutlery - bayonet 1Z803 - Hauser Products - scabbard https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8041_jpeg-3581358.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8042_jpeg-3581359.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7971_jpeg-3581360.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_7962_jpeg-3581361.JPG A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG Do those guys not have any mags beyond what's in the weapon? Ain't no way I'd be on riot patrol without extra ammo. The chances of them having ammo in those mags is very low. Most likely, they have an assault bag and their FLC in the Humvee with some extra mags, albeit probably empty mags. 
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: The chances of them having ammo in those mags is very low. Most likely, they have an assault bag and their FLC in the Humvee with some extra mags, albeit probably empty mags. I can attest to this. Most likely empty mags and they MIGHT have 10 rounds issued to them with strict orders not to even think about loading it up. That's how it was for us every hurricane duty. 10 rounds in a mag, leave it in your pocket/FLC/ruck, empty or no mag in the rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: I can attest to this. Most likely empty mags and they MIGHT have 10 rounds issued to them with strict orders not to even think about loading it up. That's how it was for us every hurricane duty. 10 rounds in a mag, leave it in your pocket/FLC/ruck, empty or no mag in the rifle. Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: The chances of them having ammo in those mags is very low. Most likely, they have an assault bag and their FLC in the Humvee with some extra mags, albeit probably empty mags. I can attest to this. Most likely empty mags and they MIGHT have 10 rounds issued to them with strict orders not to even think about loading it up. That's how it was for us every hurricane duty. 10 rounds in a mag, leave it in your pocket/FLC/ruck, empty or no mag in the rifle. During the riots, my buddy told me the NCO in charge of each small group was the only one with ammo and it was only 10 rounds. 
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro: A few small updates, added two new contracted parts: 3S679 - FN - rail covers 3DB52 - Design West - rear sight Now I'm just one 30mm Aimpoint away from it being complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8092_jpeg-3590921.JPG For now it'll have to be a "MN National Guard 2020 riots" clone. I saw a lot of National Guard with M4s without optics during that time, anyone know why they deployed without optics or are optics not left on the guns? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8093_jpeg-3590927.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91189/IMG_8097_jpeg-3590932.JPG The matech rear sight is a very capable aiming device. If you can’t hit something with it then you’re not a good shooter and optics won’t help just enhance your bad fundamentals. Your build is sufficient enough for combat. Locally I’ve seen this configuration with the base guards. They usually have a carry handle or matech rear sight as their aiming devices. I once seen they had an eotech. The problem is most of the red dots are battery powered so it means they have to bring out more potential items and since it’s mostly a duty assignment where someone gets voluntold to do it I doubt they’d be carrying batteries or even go buy one. |
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Never a wrong way. Rattle can improves with using it and giving it the worn look. Its also never permanent as can be stripped off. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Never a wrong way. Rattle can improves with using it and giving it the worn look. Its also never permanent as can be stripped off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9755_jpg-3617566.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4938_jpeg-3617570.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8726_jpeg-3617571.JPG Awesome I’m anticipating grabbing some color samples from the local terrain and getting crafty. Besides rustolium what other paints should i look in to? |
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