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Posted: 3/11/2012 9:51:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg Makes me want to get a SCAR-H even more.... |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2012 9:53:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg The amount of awesome in that picture is beyond words  For sure but it needs less PRS stock and moar SOPMOD. 
I agree, ironicly SOPMOD's were what I was looking for. I still have an old black gen 1, and considering a 2nd Gen FDE. I've got two FDE Gen II SOPMODs and won't consider running anything else. Oh I love my Black one, currently have a KAC Swivel on it, but I think I really want an FDE more. I haven't seen too many in the "wild" though. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:09:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg The amount of awesome in that picture is beyond words For sure but it needs less PRS stock and moar SOPMOD.
I agree, ironicly SOPMOD's were what I was looking for. I still have an old black gen 1, and considering a 2nd Gen FDE. There is one in the back right corner leaning against the green pillar... |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:14:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rbhoover:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg The amount of awesome in that picture is beyond words For sure but it needs less PRS stock and moar SOPMOD.
I agree, ironicly SOPMOD's were what I was looking for. I still have an old black gen 1, and considering a 2nd Gen FDE. There is one in the back right corner leaning against the green pillar... not one bolt gun |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:16:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By rbhoover:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg The amount of awesome in that picture is beyond words For sure but it needs less PRS stock and moar SOPMOD.
I agree, ironicly SOPMOD's were what I was looking for. I still have an old black gen 1, and considering a 2nd Gen FDE. There is one in the back right corner leaning against the green pillar... not one bolt gun Semi Auto must be the new thing. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 11:05:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By OIF_Vet08-09:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I found a picture of an Elcan with the newer Insight MRD http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6955630887_0f170c2d01_o.jpg The amount of awesome in that picture is beyond words For sure but it needs less PRS stock and moar SOPMOD.
I agree, ironicly SOPMOD's were what I was looking for. I still have an old black gen 1, and considering a 2nd Gen FDE. I've got two FDE Gen II SOPMODs and won't consider running anything else. Try the vltor club foot. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:46:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac: Try the vltor club foot. Meh, I've got a VLTOR Modstock sitting in my parts bin that I used for a bit; good stock and all but it just ain't a SOPMOD. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:53:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Try the vltor club foot. Meh, I've got a VLTOR Modstock sitting in my parts bin that I used for a bit; good stock and all but it just ain't a SOPMOD. Everyone knows the cool guys use the old 4 position stocks..... |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:11:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RePp: Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By Mattyvac: Try the vltor club foot. Meh, I've got a VLTOR Modstock sitting in my parts bin that I used for a bit; good stock and all but it just ain't a SOPMOD. Everyone knows the cool guys use the old 4 position stocks..... I was just about to say if not a SOPMOD then the oldschool M4 stock would be my choice. They just look... cool.  |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:18:52 AM EDT
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And light. It just feels right on certain builds.
Originally Posted By RTUtah: I was just about to say if not a SOPMOD then the oldschool M4 stock would be my choice. They just look... cool. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:40:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
And light. It just feels right on certain builds. Anyone run one on their Block II? Doesn't feel quite right on a Block II for me... especially with a SOCOM barrel and all that crap hanging off of it. 
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:41:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
And light. It just feels right on certain builds. Anyone run one on their Block II? Doesn't feel quite right on a Block II for me... especially with a SOCOM barrel and all that crap hanging off of it. I do. Ill put a picture up tomorrow. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:42:05 AM EDT
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Definitely not. Just on my MK18.
Originally Posted By patriot_man: Anyone run one on their Block II? Doesn't feel quite right on a Block II for me... especially with a SOCOM barrel and all that crap hanging off of it. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:47:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bonez556:
Can anyone tell me what that the correct charging handle is? ( other than the standard CH ) Sorry if this has already been gone over. If not standard the PRI M84 Gasbuster and the Crane "SOPMOD extended latch" are issued as Crane "Program" parts, or at least show up on Crane PowerPoints. A lot of units have bought various different kinds of extended latches like the Badger tac-latch - not to mention individual users with their own preferences and can buy whatever charging handle or latch they choose. "Correct charging handle" is like "correct stock." Too easy for the enduser to change, plenty of "program" options, and too much variability to get into a palsy over. ~Augee |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:54:18 AM EDT
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Now I see where you got your latest build idea!! You have been poking around this forum.
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:22:19 PM EDT
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A very important piece came in for my Block II clone... but since I don't have a Block II upper (yet) I had to put it on my Mk18 Mod 1 Upper as a placeholder. I am really digging this thing so far! Its unfortunate there are no more available, I can understand why people like these things so much!!!
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:43:00 PM EDT
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Anyone have a pic of a 12.5" barrel with a daniel defence MK 18 FSP?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 1:44:12 PM EDT
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$555 shipped a good price for a brand new EOtech 553 Tan?
I was gonna throw an aimpoint pro w/larue mount on a 14 1/2 M4 AR I have, but since its rocking a sopmod and KAC RAS I may pick up the EOtech and replace my SF scout with a M3X. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 2:15:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LiquidG:
$555 shipped a good price for a brand new EOtech 553 Tan? I was gonna throw an aimpoint pro w/larue mount on a 14 1/2 M4 AR I have, but since its rocking a sopmod and KAC RAS I may pick up the EOtech and replace my SF scout with a M3X. I bought my tan su231 marked 553 for $500 shipped 2 years ago. I saw one in the EE for $500 a day ago |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 3:40:47 PM EDT
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So if I was in the special forces and had one of these issued to me... What lower receiver would I find on the gun? COLT? I'm building one from scratch and I would like to get as close to issue as possible.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 3:57:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kdoggy:
So if I was in the special forces and had one of these issued to me... What lower receiver would I find on the gun? COLT? I'm building one from scratch and I would like to get as close to issue as possible. Colt for sure. I heard somewhere, but can't verify, that LMT was providing complete Mk18 rifles, but as far as the M4 goes, it's gonna be a Colt. FN made some M16's once, and I know Sabre got an M16 contract but I'm not sure if they delivered on that before they got raided and shut down by the feds. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 4:06:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kdoggy:
So if I was in the special forces and had one of these issued to me... What lower receiver would I find on the gun? COLT? I'm building one from scratch and I would like to get as close to issue as possible. Close as possible would probably be 6920 SOCOM and pull the barrel and buy a 14 1/2" colt SOCOM barrel off the EE or SAW, add the required block 2 parts and you would have pretty damn close clone. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 4:25:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By kdoggy:
So if I was in the special forces and had one of these issued to me... What lower receiver would I find on the gun? COLT? I'm building one from scratch and I would like to get as close to issue as possible. Close as possible would probably be 6920 SOCOM and pull the barrel and buy a 14 1/2" colt SOCOM barrel off the EE or SAW, add the required block 2 parts and you would have pretty damn close clone. Instead of pulling the barrel and replacing it, just use it as is, it is the correct profile, just the wrong length. If you wanted the correct length too, it would make more sense to just have that 16" barrel cut down to the size you wanted. 14.5" or, 14.7" (depending on what muzzle device you would get pinned, assuming you weren't going to short barrel the gun). |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 7:31:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2012 7:40:57 PM EDT
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God what a difference. 14.5" barrel almost completely covered up with all the rail you could ask for vs. 16" or is it 16.5" barrel with barely enough rail to put your hand and a light.
I cut the barrel on my SCAR down to 14.?, had a SF mount pinned and added a PWS rail extension. It made a world of difference. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 7:49:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By new-arguy:
God what a difference. 14.5" barrel almost completely covered up with all the rail you could ask for vs. 16" or is it 16.5" barrel with barely enough rail to put your hand and a light. I cut the barrel on my SCAR down to 14.?, had a SF mount pinned and added a PWS rail extension. It made a world of difference. Definitely true. 16" M4 profile on my old Block II threw off the balance. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 7:56:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By RePp:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4356/guns005e.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7073/guns004.jpg http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/563/guns001d.jpg Nice line up |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 8:18:06 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info on the lowers. I was considering tracking down a COLT lower but I guess it doesn't really matter as I'm not really doing a 100% true Block II build.
So far here is my parts list for my upper: Daniel Defense II M4-A1RIS II FSP rail system DD upper receiver DD CHF 16 inch M4 style w/ A2 FSB DD BCG DD A1.5 rear sight BCM/VLTOR Gunfighter charging handle, Mod3 (already had it laying around) I decided to go with the FSP rail over the standard M4-A1 simply because I about choked when I saw the cost of the Knights front and rear flip sights! That and I already had the Daniel Defense A1.5 rear sight sitting here. For the lower, I haven't decided what to do BUT I do not like SOPMOD stocks. I already have a Smith and Wesson lower pre-built with a full Daniel Defense LPK, a Magpul CTR and a Magpul Miad. Might just keep that for now. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 8:41:12 PM EDT
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More Block 1.5 Porn
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:17:52 PM EDT
[#30]
This question has been in my head for a while and I just had to ask. Is the M4A1 ever slated to be replaced by the SCAR once the 5.56 conversion kit rolls out?
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:31:23 PM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
This question has been in my head for a while and I just had to ask. Is the M4A1 ever slated to be replaced by the SCAR once the 5.56 conversion kit rolls out? nope |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:47:42 PM EDT
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What method did you use to spray the black on?
Originally Posted By RePp: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4356/guns005e.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7073/guns004.jpg http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/563/guns001d.jpg |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:49:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
This question has been in my head for a while and I just had to ask. Is the M4A1 ever slated to be replaced by the SCAR once the 5.56 conversion kit rolls out? nope *Sigh, I just can't get myself to sell my Block II clone to help fund for the 17S... lol. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:53:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
What method did you use to spray the black on? Originally Posted By RePp:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4356/guns005e.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7073/guns004.jpg http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/563/guns001d.jpg I didnt use black. I just use the straw method on all of my guns that arnt camo. |
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Posted: 3/12/2012 11:54:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
This question has been in my head for a while and I just had to ask. Is the M4A1 ever slated to be replaced by the SCAR once the 5.56 conversion kit rolls out? nope *Sigh, I just can't get myself to sell my Block II clone to help fund for the 17S... lol. 17s were never ment to replace M4s. They still get lots of play though. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:08:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RePp:
17s were never ment to replace M4s. They still get lots of play though. Oh I see. I just thought if the 5.56 conversion kits rolled out that that they might just use the 17S. Thanks for the clarification. Definitely still thinking about getting a SCAR though... 
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:18:19 AM EDT
[#37]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By RePp:
17s were never ment to replace M4s. They still get lots of play though. Oh I see. I just thought if the 5.56 conversion kits rolled out that that they might just use the 17S. Thanks for the clarification. Definitely still thinking about getting a SCAR though... SCARs are fuckin awesome. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:46:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RePp:
SCARs are fuckin awesome. You got me convinced.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:36:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By RePp:
SCARs are fuckin awesome. You got me convinced. Meh, I prefer the block II over the scar 17s I had. |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:51:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By RePp:
SCARs are fuckin awesome. You got me convinced. Meh, I prefer the block II over the scar 17s I had. I prefer the Ar platform over the SCAR platform in general. For no other reason then the AR feels more at home in my hands and I tend to be quicker and more accurate with the AR. |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:53:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:53:47 AM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By RePp:
SCARs are fuckin awesome. You got me convinced. Meh, I prefer the block II over the scar 17s I had. different tools in the toolbox. That being said, I am definitely faster with my M4 than the 7.62 SCAR. |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:56:27 AM EDT
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why the long face bud? |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 11:59:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
why the long face bud? I'm selling it, but I haven't gotten any takers yet. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend that still lives with you... and you look at her, and she still looks pretty darn good.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:08:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
why the long face bud? I'm selling it, but I haven't gotten any takers yet. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend that still lives with you... and you look at her, and she still looks pretty darn good. don't worry, she will go from looking "darn good" to "sexy as hell" as soon as she is gone and in the hands of another man. I only hope you have your replacement already |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:20:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
why the long face bud? I'm selling it, but I haven't gotten any takers yet. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend that still lives with you... and you look at her, and she still looks pretty darn good. don't worry, she will go from looking "darn good" to "sexy as hell" as soon as she is gone and in the hands of another man. I only hope you have your replacement already Haha, how true. I've got my replacement, most definitely. Slimmer, lighter, darker. From Florida rather than from Georgia. (KAC URX III upper)
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:25:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
why the long face bud? I'm selling it, but I haven't gotten any takers yet. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend that still lives with you... and you look at her, and she still looks pretty darn good. don't worry, she will go from looking "darn good" to "sexy as hell" as soon as she is gone and in the hands of another man. I only hope you have your replacement already Haha, how true. I've got my replacement, most definitely. Slimmer, lighter, darker. From Florida rather than from Georgia. (KAC URX III upper)Don't trust anything from Florida. |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 12:44:48 PM EDT
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Sold my SureFire Mini Scout and picked up a full size, this time in tan.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 1:12:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Sold my SureFire Mini Scout and picked up a full size, this time in tan. http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz285/k_wilkin/DSC_1780.jpg Looks great, even the black Elcan looks badass. How do you like that surefire? I'm about to get another light and can't really decide between another M3X or a surefire like yours |
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Posted: 3/13/2012 1:20:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Looks great, even the black Elcan looks badass. How do you like that surefire? I'm about to get another light and can't really decide between another M3X or a surefire like yours Thanks. It'd be cool to have a FDE Elcan, but I'm more than happy with the black one. I love the M600C light. It's super bright and has great throw. I flirted with getting an Insight to keep with the clone status, but I have a hard time leaving SureFire lights, especially the Scout series. I also like the SureFire switches better––in particular the SR0X series––as the Insight ones seem gaudy. If I could tuck an Insight switch in a TangoDown grip I might try one someday, perhaps on an "enhanced" (i.e., 1.5-esque) Mk18. |
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