Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Page AR-15 » AR Discussions
AR Sponsor: bravocompany
Page / 913
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 10:48:10 AM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
So I need help deciding a sling for my Block 1.5. I've got a CQD plate and front mount in the mail already. I was thinking originally for a Tan CQD Sling, but now I'm thinking black, which one do you think I should go with?


Post up a pick of the rifle so we can see which would look better.



I have a Tan Sopmod "2nd Gen" on the way, but here's a basic picture
ETA I plan on upgrading to a RIS II sometime this year (or so is the goal).
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/photo.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20101226_085828-1.jpg


You won't go wrong with black.That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Might just get that used Black CQD on the EE then. I might still check locally and see what else they have too.


I like my Vickers Sling.  Its not spec, but its not often I see a rifle in the sandbox that has a spec sling anyways.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 10:50:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Biggest issue is that I'm not a huge fan of the 3 point I have now. If OpticSale.com wasn't such a scam, I probably would have been fine with tan.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 10:51:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Y'all are nuts for paying that much for some fk'n roll marks.
 


I feel like a chump with my SBR'ed DPMS lower.  My wife bought it for me when we first started dating many moons ago.  I SBR'ed it right away and have had it ever since.


I don't really see anything wrong with a dpms lower or any brand really, I'm just looking at what comes with it. The SR-5 lower seems to be a nice setup, that pre-built and ready to go. I want to try a 2stage trigger and figured this would be a good way.


I have actually really come to like my DPMS lower. It went together tight but exactly how it was supposed too. It has several thousand rounds through it and never had a pin back out or a problem dropping a mag free.  The LPK is a Spikes Enhanced kit and it has a great trigger pull with a clean break.  

If I were you, I would grab up a new M4 Carbine" marked Colt lower.  They are pretty highly sought after and will only go up in value for sure.


Link Posted: 3/16/2012 12:39:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Timbo] [#4]
nvm





 
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 12:42:57 PM EDT
[#5]



Originally Posted By Socomike:



Originally Posted By Tmender03:


Originally Posted By thebomber:


Originally Posted By Tmender03:


Originally Posted By thebomber:


Originally Posted By Tmender03:

So I need help deciding a sling for my Block 1.5. I've got a CQD plate and front mount in the mail already. I was thinking originally for a Tan CQD Sling, but now I'm thinking black, which one do you think I should go with?




Post up a pick of the rifle so we can see which would look better.







I have a Tan Sopmod "2nd Gen" on the way, but here's a basic picture

ETA I plan on upgrading to a RIS II sometime this year (or so is the goal).

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/photo.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20101226_085828-1.jpg




You won't go wrong with black.That's my story and I'm sticking to it.







Might just get that used Black CQD on the EE then. I might still check locally and see what else they have too.




I like my Vickers Sling.  Its not spec, but its not often I see a rifle in the sandbox that has a spec sling anyways.


A big +1 for the padded Vickers VCAS sling with QDs.  

 
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 1:56:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dog_dad] [#6]
LBT-2500BZ slings are quite popular with the teams... they do love LBT a lot . Basically a VTAC with HK hooks and better quality in my opinion (stitching). I got a Multicam one for free a couple months ago on top of my coyote tan one and that's all I use. It's either the LBT or padded VCAS for me but I do find the range of the quick adjustment on the VCAS to be shorter than the VTAC/LBT design.

I also read on a forum that the Ares gear Huskey Amentum Slider Sling was picked up by a MARSOC unit. Looks very well thought out but have yet to try it.


EDIT: The CQD sling was the NAVSPECWARCOM Sling  NSN: 8415-01-504-3087 but I'm pretty sure that it's been a long time and now everyone is into the whole quick adjust 2 points.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 2:05:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Rothbard:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
I need a new lower for my block 1.5.... Highly considering the KAC SR15 lower, because used colt lowers are so damn expensive!


Yeah, 'cause the KAC lower at $700-ish is just chump change.



Colt lower with standard m4 stock -550
KAC lower with full ambi controls, SOPMOD stock, 2stage trigger, built in QD- 750

Colt seems like a rip


LMT factory built lower assembly with SOPMOD is only $550



So many choices.


And all good ones.  Since we're all spending your money, we vote for the KAC.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 2:58:53 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm running a KAC special run lower
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 4:19:09 PM EDT
[#9]
Getting my upper fixed today, re-zero-ing tomorrow/ zero-ing my su231.

What distance are those of you using a MRD zero-ing at?
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 4:24:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
What distance are those of you using a MRD zero-ing at?


I now use a 100yard zero.  That way I know that anywhere between 0-100 yards, I will be low, and I will be less low the farther out I am.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 4:26:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
What distance are those of you using a MRD zero-ing at?


I now use a 100yard zero.  That way I know that anywhere between 0-100 yards, I will be low, and I will be less low the farther out I am.


Zeroing a 7MOA dot at 100yards must be a pain. You do that on a backup optic like on top an Elcan?
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 4:47:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Postal0311] [#12]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Zeroing a 7MOA dot at 100yards must be a pain. You do that on a backup optic like on top an Elcan?


No, its rather easy.  Shoot a 3-5 round group.  Look at the group, and adjust so POI is the same as POA.

For example, on my 5.45 RIS II upper.  I zeroed the Insight MRD atop a ECOS at 25 meters.  Was shooting about a 1/2 inch group at that distances, impacting where I was aiming.  So I put a target up at 100 yards.  Shot at the target then saw that my impacts were 10 inches above my point of aim.  So I dialed in 10 MOA down (10 clicks, 1 MOA clicks) on the Insight MRD and shot another group right where I was aiming.

When I used a piggyback RMR, I did the same.  Back when I had my Elcan, I still was using a 25m zero on the piggyback red dots and I found my impacts would be way off at various distances.   For practice, I like to shoot clay pigeons resting on a birm.  With the 100 yard zero I can easily hit them at various distances(EG, 15 yards, 75 yards, etc) vs. when I used a closer zero, at a little longer distance I would be impacting very high at distances past 25 meters.

Insight atop a Elcan (lower rifle is the 5.45):


Insight atop an ACOG:


RMR atop an ECOS:


I don't have a picture of my current setup, but my 5.45 has the ECOS with a Insight MRD(replace the RMR).  My Colt 6920 wears the other ACOG, with an Insight MRD atop it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:25:00 PM EDT
[#13]
there are easier ways to zero an RDS:

50 yds  = 200 yds
36m = 300m
Respectively
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:45:33 PM EDT
[#14]
New stock came in (Thanks Osha!) as well as my front CQD Mount. Still awaiting a back plate that hopefully I'll get tomorrow. I just picked up a CQD Sling from the EE. I did see a Magpul Tan MS2 locally, but $60 was way too much to me.

Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:49:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
New stock came in (Thanks Osha!) as well as my front CQD Mount. Still awaiting a back plate that hopefully I'll get tomorrow. I just picked up a CQD Sling from the EE. I did see a Magpul Tan MS2 locally, but $60 was way too much to me.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172547-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172821-1.jpg


Looks great, man! You just need a PEQ15, and it will be perfect...
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:51:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
New stock came in (Thanks Osha!) as well as my front CQD Mount. Still awaiting a back plate that hopefully I'll get tomorrow. I just picked up a CQD Sling from the EE. I did see a Magpul Tan MS2 locally, but $60 was way too much to me.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172547-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172821-1.jpg


Looks great, man! You just need a PEQ15, and it will be perfect...


Too bad I can't buy a real one. What I really need is a RIS II, that's next. BTW if anyone needs a Colt Sling Swivel, mine's been removed now and I have no need for it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:54:01 PM EDT
[#17]
You could do what everyone else is doing and buy a fake one... shit, I've got a fake one right here.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 5:56:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By osha:
You could do what everyone else is doing and buy a fake one... shit, I've got a fake one right here.


True, but I dunno if I can put chinese stuff on my American rifle. That and I've yet to find one that looks very very close to a real one. Usually colors are out of wack or something else is wrong with it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 6:07:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Postal0311] [#19]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
there are easier ways to zero an RDS:

50 yds  = 200 yds
36m = 300m
Respectively


Dan, your wrong.

First of all, its 36 yards for 300m if your using a 20 inch barrel(M16A2, M16A4).  If your shooting a carbine, then 25m ~ 300m.

Secondly, those intersecting zeros for for a standard sight at about 2.6 inches over the bore.  When you have a piggyback optic(about 5 inches over the bore) those zero's simply do not end up working that way.

So say you zero a piggyback optic at 25 meters.  At 300 meters you are roughly 30 inches high.  At 100 yards, your about a foot high.

Dan, please check your info before you tell people these things.  I would hate for you to be spouting incorrect info to our uniformed fighters.  You might get one of our good guys killed.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 6:55:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan] [#20]
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
there are easier ways to zero an RDS:

50 yds  = 200 yds
36m = 300m
Respectively


Dan, your wrong.

First of all, its 36 yards for 300m if your using a 20 inch barrel(M16A2, M16A4).  If your shooting a carbine, then 25m ~ 300m.

Secondly, those intersecting zeros for for a standard sight at about 2.6 inches over the bore.  When you have a piggyback optic(about 5 inches over the bore) those zero's simply do not end up working that way.

So say you zero a piggyback optic at 25 meters.  At 300 meters you are roughly 30 inches high.  At 100 yards, your about a foot high.

Dan, please check your info before you tell people these things.  I would hate for you to be spouting incorrect info to our uniformed fighters.  You might get one of our good guys killed.


Don't get your green panties in a wad. It's been awhile since I did a BZO. I was trying to go from memory because I cant find my big book of knowledge from coaches course.

Link Posted: 3/16/2012 8:14:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jrs93accord] [#21]
My apologies
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 8:21:14 PM EDT
[#22]
That's not quite what this thread is for... that's more like a Big Army M4. Look at the first post to see the characteristics of a Block II.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 8:34:36 PM EDT
[#23]
I feel like the only reason I can get away with it is because I've got an Elcan. Oh and I had a SOPMOD style weapon for a while before this thread.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 8:45:13 PM EDT
[#24]
No, your rifle is a perfect example of the Block 1.5/phased replacement –– the SU-233, SU-230, and TD VFG are all part of the kit. The other poster's weapon had none of the phased replacement parts.
Link Posted: 3/16/2012 8:51:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By osha:
No, your rifle is a perfect example of the Block 1.5/phased replacement –– the SU-233, SU-230, and TD VFG are all part of the kit. The other poster's weapon had none of the phased replacement parts.


I didn't see the picture, but I assumed as much. It's kind of ironic that this is a Block II thread and the Block 1.5 "Phased Replacement" etc crowd is allowed. When I built mine 2.5 years ago, RIS II's weren't all that popular, and in fact I didn't even know DD won the competition for the RIS II. If I had, I probably would have had a RIS II then! I do think it's probably better now since the market is way better than it was in 2009.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 7:38:37 AM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 9:19:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Been thinking about throwing the Elcan back on the RIS II...  It's just meant to be, and makes the most sense. probably lose the ladder rail panels. Still need a M3X and a SU-231 for the 1.5 "phased replacement". Anybody need a 512? Even though it'll be a month before I get back.


The original pic-

So solid.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 10:05:04 AM EDT
[#28]
bah cant see the post! double-tap damnit.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 10:41:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: new_ak_fan] [#29]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:

Originally Posted By kdoggy:
As I said yesterday, the big brown truck brought me some goodies.

Went with the FSP model as the KAC sights are DAMN expensive! Every single part on the upper is Daniel Defense. Still haven't decided if I want the SOPMOD stock yet. Next up is a EOTech 553 or an Aimpoint T1 on a KAC riser. Still deciding!

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj3/roadblockxl/AR%20Rifles/DSC09073Medium.jpg

Is this rail / configuration actually in service? As in military service?

 


There are two pictures of them in use by .mil in this thread––3 rifles total shown.  One is the semi-famous no BUIS & the other has two soldiers with them using ACOGs.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 11:38:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dog_dad] [#30]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:

Is this rail / configuration actually in service? As in military service?

 


According to Stickman's history of the RIS II, the original submission to the SOCOM trials was an early variant of the RIS II FSP version. After Daniel Defense won the contract there were a few changes made but the one most relevant to your question was the removal of the FSP cut out to have a uninterrupted 12 o clock rail. But then he made another post on December 2008 saying the following:

At the request of military units, a new Daniel Defense RIS II rail was designed and manufactured. This rail appears to go back to the roots of the initial DD RIS II rail that was entered into the early rail trials. The Front Sight Base (FSB) passes through a slot in the top rail.


From all the pictures I think it is safe to say that the military unit that requested and runs the FSP version is most likely Army. So in short I would say that the FSP version is indeed fielded or was. Haven't seen too many pictures recently of the FSP version but I'm sure it's out there.


Edit: Here is the link to the excellent write up by stickman. Also look how recessed the original RIS II is vs the current one. I wouldn't mind having one myself.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 12:59:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nf9648] [#31]
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
Been thinking about throwing the Elcan back on the RIS II...  It's just meant to be, and makes the most sense. probably lose the ladder rail panels. Still need a M3X and a SU-231 for the 1.5 "phased replacement". Anybody need a 512? Even though it'll be a month before I get back.


The original pic-
http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/nicCartel/17094841.jpg
So solid.


I would, but I cant stand the feel of bare rails.  I need ladders at a minimum.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 6:19:00 PM EDT
[#32]


Link Posted: 3/17/2012 7:06:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 7:12:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cmcflex] [#34]


+1000

ETA: I will be sending out my Form 1 this week most likely. Here I come Mk18 or CQBR.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 9:09:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MarioMarietta] [#35]
Here we go little gun porn   I got my 14.5 yesterday Colt SOCOM stamped 03/10 happy about that. I got my new SR25/MK11 MOD 0 Clone DAMN CLONES!  I am waiting on scope and front sight and the MK12 MOD1 is DONE.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 9:43:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Went and picked up my new Block II upper from a fellow Iowan today, had a great time talking guns and brought this home...



I'm still looking for that darn front sight if anyone has one or knows someone with one in stock... the M3X would be nice also, but I can wait on that for now! My safe is starting to look like a Arms Room tucked away somewhere on Bragg now
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 10:41:54 PM EDT
[#37]



Here are some pics from online I found I know one is a transition mk18 but still sooooo sick
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 11:24:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.
Link Posted: 3/17/2012 11:46:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Did you give knights a call? They might be able to help you out.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:07:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Did you give knights a call? They might be able to help you out.


I have not, King Optic seems to have the best price compared to Knights. Maybe one will show up on the EE.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 1:09:04 AM EDT
[#41]
Does BCM still produce their SOCOM barrels? I've been signed up to receive notifications for months but I've never gotten an email saying they are back in stock...
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 3:54:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4A1] [#42]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Wes @ MSTN has them in stock.  Hes a Knights dealer.
Contact him: [email protected]
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 8:06:09 AM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Did you give knights a call? They might be able to help you out.


I have not, King Optic seems to have the best price compared to Knights. Maybe one will show up on the EE.


Dennis Todd has one in stock I can give you a e-mail address hes a great guy!  IM me for info there 195 shipped I believe
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:09:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By rbhoover:
Went and picked up my new Block II upper from a fellow Iowan today, had a great time talking guns and brought this home...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2237/photo5small.jpg

I'm still looking for that darn front sight if anyone has one or knows someone with one in stock... the M3X would be nice also, but I can wait on that for now! My safe is starting to look like a Arms Room tucked away somewhere on Bragg now


man that looks good all put together, and looks really familiar.....
nice to meet you as well, hope you enjoy it
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:16:57 PM EDT
[#45]
Originally Posted By M4A1:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Wes @ MSTN has them in stock.  Hes a Knights dealer.
Contact him: [email protected]


Emailed Wes, he's all out . I'm in no hurry though, but if I can find good deals along the way, then I'll be sold.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:55:31 PM EDT
[#46]
I think I read somewhere that SOCOM ordered a crap load of taupe front sights recently (~2000)... probably the reason for the lack of availability.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:58:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Yep, according to Wes, about 3200 behind.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 12:59:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 1:15:45 PM EDT
[#49]
Their prices are high, but they have them none the less.
Link Posted: 3/18/2012 1:44:09 PM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Anyone know where I can find a KAC front Taupe sight? I know most everyone is out atm, but I wanna try and get one.


Did you give knights a call? They might be able to help you out.


I have not, King Optic seems to have the best price compared to Knights. Maybe one will show up on the EE.


Thats where I got both of mine.
Page / 913
Page AR-15 » AR Discussions
AR Sponsor: bravocompany
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top