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Posted: 3/18/2012 3:27:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Is this rail / configuration actually in service? As in military service? According to Stickman's history of the RIS II, the original submission to the SOCOM trials was an early variant of the RIS II FSP version. After Daniel Defense won the contract there were a few changes made but the one most relevant to your question was the removal of the FSP cut out to have a uninterrupted 12 o clock rail. But then he made another post on December 2008 saying the following: At the request of military units, a new Daniel Defense RIS II rail was designed and manufactured. This rail appears to go back to the roots of the initial DD RIS II rail that was entered into the early rail trials. The Front Sight Base (FSB) passes through a slot in the top rail.
From all the pictures I think it is safe to say that the military unit that requested and runs the FSP version is most likely Army. So in short I would say that the FSP version is indeed fielded or was. Haven't seen too many pictures recently of the FSP version but I'm sure it's out there. Edit: Here is the link to the excellent write up by stickman. Also look how recessed the original RIS II is vs the current one. I wouldn't mind having one myself. Thanks, its probably worth noting that the military requested DD make several other RIS II variants, and gave them all NSN numbers to go along with them. I think an argument could be made either way that they are, or are not military rails being as many of them never went into a full production capacity or were actually issued. However, being as the military was the one who requested the various variants, and this isn't some COTS thing someone threw on some weapons, even the infamous GL/SSC would seem to be a legit military rail in my opinion. Early submission DD RIS II rail shown below. 
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Posted: 3/18/2012 3:30:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Issue gun!
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Posted: 3/18/2012 3:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dog_dad]
[#3]
Several other designs?!
 Do you have all 7? 
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 3:39:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:04:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ragincajun1919]
[#5]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around.  GLSSC
EDIT: I wish someone with a GLSSC would come along and want an Elcan... I'd trade the Elcan for the GLSSC on a rifle The GLSSC would allow me to use a 14.5" barrel and use my SPR/M4 can.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:12:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around. GLSSC
EDIT: I wish someone with a GLSSC would come along and want an Elcan... I'd trade the Elcan for the GLSSC on a rifle The GLSSC would allow me to use a 14.5" barrel and use my SPR/M4 can.Wish I could find one laying around. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:17:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around. GLSSC
EDIT: I wish someone with a GLSSC would come along and want an Elcan... I'd trade the Elcan for the GLSSC on a rifle The GLSSC would allow me to use a 14.5" barrel and use my SPR/M4 can.Wish I could find one laying around. Ive tried just about everywhere |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:22:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around. GLSSC
EDIT: I wish someone with a GLSSC would come along and want an Elcan... I'd trade the Elcan for the GLSSC on a rifle The GLSSC would allow me to use a 14.5" barrel and use my SPR/M4 can.Wish I could find one laying around. Ive tried just about everywhere I have all but given up. I have come to terms with the fact that even if I do find one on the used market, it will be priced so far out of my budget I wont have a chance. I, unlike you, will not trade my Elcan for it haha. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:23:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Several other designs?! Do you have all 7?
I love how the original RIS II's lower rail is so recessed into the upper rail portion. Nope, but I like the way you think. I've only got a few of the DD RIS II, but I've got the original two concept rails which were put into limited production for the RIS II trials, and I've got the GL/SSC. The three of those are kind of hard to come by, and I think the GL/SSC may be the hardest of them to find laying around. GLSSC
EDIT: I wish someone with a GLSSC would come along and want an Elcan... I'd trade the Elcan for the GLSSC on a rifle The GLSSC would allow me to use a 14.5" barrel and use my SPR/M4 can.Wish I could find one laying around. Ive tried just about everywhere I have all but given up. I have come to terms with the fact that even if I do find one on the used market, it will be priced so far out of my budget I wont have a chance. I, unlike you, will not trade my Elcan for it haha. Not a straight trade  I would pay up to 1k for one though. I'm nutty like that.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 4:31:23 PM EDT
[#10]
I may consider paying twice what the RIS II is new, but nothing more. Im a cheap ass though.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 8:32:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Not exactly the M4A1, but there aren't any pic threads for this one.....
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Posted: 3/18/2012 8:33:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Not exactly the M4A1, but there aren't any pic threads for this one.....
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%207/STKL7324-A-1200-Stick.jpg That's so wrong stick 
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Posted: 3/18/2012 9:02:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
That's so wrong stick Who? Me?
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2012 9:08:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You want one of these? http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Images/PhotoGallery/100_3190%20copy1.jpg.thumb?width=800&height=620 New Colt parts. http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Parts/M16_AR15Parts.cat Just paid 180 for mine from J&T I got the last one they had |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 9:54:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You want one of these? http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Images/PhotoGallery/100_3190%20copy1.jpg.thumb?width=800&height=620 New Colt parts. http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Parts/M16_AR15Parts.cat M16 Colt Marked Bolt & Bolt Carrier (New Condition) $293.81 for a Colt BCG wtf are they smoking crack |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 10:21:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Not exactly the M4A1, but there aren't any pic threads for this one.....
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%207/STKL7324-A-1200-Stick.jpg Dude seriously......your such a tease
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Posted: 3/18/2012 10:52:48 PM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By 11bway2b:
Here is my MK12 MOD1 and M4A1 SOPMOD Block II <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s14.postimage.org/xah3r3jip/ar_s_2.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s15.postimage.org/jrkzgro9n/ar_s.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s17.postimage.org/jxzjz2isv/m4a1.jpg</a> Upper-Daniel Defense Mid-Length, RIS II in FDE, KAC BUIS's (300m rear), BCM charging handle, JoJo Brake, M3X light, TD VFG, CQD sling mount Lower-Noveske Lower, Daniel Defense LPK, CQD sling mount, Pinned LMT SOPMOD stock Optic-Elcan Specter Dr FDE, military version Sling- VTAC padden (tan) with HK clips (Not Shown) Holy Hell of a 2nd post Batman...Nice pair of rifles you got there Bud. Add a mk18 and you've got a trifecta in my opinion. CQB, General Purpose, and Precison. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 11:18:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Not exactly the M4A1, but there aren't any pic threads for this one.....
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%207/STKL7324-A-1200-Stick.jpg I don't think I've ever wanted anything as much as I want the GL/SSC right now.. |
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Posted: 3/18/2012 11:29:12 PM EDT
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Can''t we just order a certain amount to have them made? Sort of like how Eagle industries require a minimum purchase of 20 to make their vests and pounches in a non standard camo pattern or color? It'll probably have to be more than a order of 20 for the GL/SSC....
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Posted: 3/18/2012 11:53:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By thebomber:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Not exactly the M4A1, but there aren't any pic threads for this one.....
http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%207/STKL7324-A-1200-Stick.jpg Dude seriously......your such a tease
Check out the 5616 x 3744 DD RIS II desktop wallpaper I just posted, its more than big enough for any dual screen or large HD TV. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 8:06:26 AM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Here is a picture of the Insight VBL III aka the WMX-200 in use. Granted it might not be on a Block II but I have to say it's the first picture of it I've seen out in the wild. I didn't want to embed it because it was huge and didn't know if it would resize. Make sure to zoom in to get a good look. Anyone here use a WMX200 or have any experience with one? I can order one at an amazing price and was thinking of selling my mini scout and putting one on my block 2 clone. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 9:16:58 AM EDT
[#22]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Can''t we just order a certain amount to have them made? Sort of like how Eagle industries require a minimum purchase of 20 to make their vests and pounches in a non standard camo pattern or color? It'll probably have to be more than a order of 20 for the GL/SSC.... 150 need to be ordered for DD to make Them again. I'm in for 2. 148 to go |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 9:34:46 AM EDT
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Ordered an Elcan today. Paid to much, but it is only money... Hopefully the Elcan is as good as everyone is saying.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 9:49:13 AM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By new_ak_fan:
Ordered an Elcan today. Paid to much, but it is only money... Hopefully the Elcan is as good as everyone is saying. It's not. We are just all Elcan reps |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2012 10:49:45 AM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Here is a picture of the Insight VBL III aka the WMX-200 in use. Granted it might not be on a Block II but I have to say it's the first picture of it I've seen out in the wild. I didn't want to embed it because it was huge and didn't know if it would resize. Make sure to zoom in to get a good look. Anyone here use a WMX200 or have any experience with one? I can order one at an amazing price and was thinking of selling my mini scout and putting one on my block 2 clone. Didn't it replace the m3x? Also, do share your amazing price, as all the ones I saw were way too expensive. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 10:53:16 AM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You want one of these? http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Images/PhotoGallery/100_3190%20copy1.jpg.thumb?width=800&height=620 New Colt parts. http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/Parts/M16_AR15Parts.cat ouch $386 |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:08:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LiquidG]
[#27]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Here is a picture of the Insight VBL III aka the WMX-200 in use. Granted it might not be on a Block II but I have to say it's the first picture of it I've seen out in the wild. I didn't want to embed it because it was huge and didn't know if it would resize. Make sure to zoom in to get a good look. Anyone here use a WMX200 or have any experience with one? I can order one at an amazing price and was thinking of selling my mini scout and putting one on my block 2 clone. Didn't it replace the m3x? Also, do share your amazing price, as all the ones I saw were way too expensive. Can't give the exact amount, its confidential as I work for a L3 company and it's an employee only discount. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:10:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#28]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Can''t we just order a certain amount to have them made? Sort of like how Eagle industries require a minimum purchase of 20 to make their vests and pounches in a non standard camo pattern or color? It'll probably have to be more than a order of 20 for the GL/SSC.... 150 need to be ordered for DD to make Them again. I'm in for 2. 148 to go Dibs on 1. 147 to fo http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_382/217182_GL_SSC_FDE_group_buy.html |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:23:00 AM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Can''t we just order a certain amount to have them made? Sort of like how Eagle industries require a minimum purchase of 20 to make their vests and pounches in a non standard camo pattern or color? It'll probably have to be more than a order of 20 for the GL/SSC.... 150 need to be ordered for DD to make Them again. I'm in for 2. 148 to go Dibs on 1. 147 to fo http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_382/217182_GL_SSC_FDE_group_buy.html If there's enough interest, perhaps the site admins would allow you to set up a group buy. I don't know if we could 150 here, though, as it's a pretty niche item. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:57:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Augee]
[#30]
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
New stock came in (Thanks Osha!) as well as my front CQD Mount. Still awaiting a back plate that hopefully I'll get tomorrow. I just picked up a CQD Sling from the EE. I did see a Magpul Tan MS2 locally, but $60 was way too much to me. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172547-1.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20120316_172821-1.jpg Still just about my favorite configuration right there. Originally Posted By _Iceman_:
Wow, this thread has turned into something awesome. I have not been here since Jan and the page count was 80ish. Now over 150!! Tons of great info here, keep it up. I do have some updates and info that the Über clone fanatics might find interesting. Newarguy is correct: the pic a couple of pages back was our catalog pick a couple of years ago. Fun fact: the model ( I use that term loosely ) is one of our armorers who works exclusively on building M4A1 URGs. He in fact has had his grubby mitts on every single mk18 or M4a1 urg that has ever gone down range, and built most of them himself. The MK12 gas block has finally been awarded an NSN. Daniel Defense is the provider for these. As for the SF hiders vs. the KAC you may eventually see both in use downrange. _Iceman_: Could you / he shed any light on the significant minority of M4A1 Block 2 and CQBR Block 2 uppers that are being built with teardrop FAs? It seems like something like 30-40% of the Block 2 uppers (particularly CQBRs) I've seen have the old M16A1 forward assist, not the round one. Is this being specifically requested? Or are the spare parts left over from all the M16A1s that are being cannibalized by Crane (MK 18 MOD 0 and MK 12 MOD 1 lowers) being re-used? ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:19:52 PM EDT
[#31]
What size groups do you guys get at 300yards? Mine were 8"-ish inches using M855.. Is this to be expected ? Bad? Good?
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:23:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
What size groups do you guys get at 300yards? Mine were 8"-ish inches using M855.. Is this to be expected ? Bad? Good? M855 is not a terribly accurate load. Acceptance spec is (IIRC) 4 MOA. ~8" sounds about par for the course at 300y. ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:29:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
What size groups do you guys get at 300yards? Mine were 8"-ish inches using M855.. Is this to be expected ? Bad? Good? M855 is not a terribly accurate load. Acceptance spec is (IIRC) 4 MOA. ~8" sounds about par for the course at 300y. ~Augee That's kinda what I thought but wanted to confirm. I want to try something like 75gr bullets next time out and see what happens there. But I'm sure stick with m855 due to price differences |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:44:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Didn't it replace the m3x? Also, do share your amazing price, as all the ones I saw were way too expensive. Yes it did replace the M3X. I just found the solicitation for the VBL-III and it says the following. minimum quantity of 10 EA, maximum quantity of 37,500 EA
I'm guessing they didn't order too much since we aren't seeing more VBL-III's in pictures... |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:52:26 PM EDT
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I want my barrel backkkkkk
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:10:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
I want my barrel backkkkkk You and me both. I had to sell a NIW SOCOM last year, along with my Colt 9mm build, and a bunch of nice retro parts due to being unemployed. Now that I'm working full time again I've been buying a few parts, but wish I had some of them back, like that barrel for example. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:47:54 PM EDT
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OK! Questions.
So I'm putting together my Block II build based on the DD M4-A1 FSP RIS II. I know I'm going to have a variance or two from a true Block II but I have some questions. I've read about half the pages in this thread and it's taken a couple weeks so I'm just going to ask. 1. Optics The Elcan is crazy expensive so that simply won't be an option. My next thought was the EOTech 553 but that things seems bulky as hell. Also looking at the EOTech XPS3-0Tan model. What I really like though is the Aimpoint Micro T1. Small, light, looks nice. Have any Block II guns used the Aimpoint maybe on the KAC riser? Troy rear sights? Yes, no? 2. Stocks I have a FDE CTR on my build now simply because I had it. I was going to sell it and get the SOPMOD stock even though I don't really like it as much. Then going threw this thread I've seen a couple in country Block II guns that clearly have CTR's on them. Can I assume this is way off from the standard? |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:57:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By kdoggy:
OK! Questions. So I'm putting together my Block II build based on the DD M4-A1 FSP RIS II. I know I'm going to have a variance or two from a true Block II but I have some questions. I've read about half the pages in this thread and it's taken a couple weeks so I'm just going to ask. 1. Optics The Elcan is crazy expensive so that simply won't be an option. My next thought was the EOTech 553 but that things seems bulky as hell. Also looking at the EOTech XPS3-0Tan model. What I really like though is the Aimpoint Micro T1. Small, light, looks nice. Have any Block II guns used the Aimpoint maybe on the KAC riser? Troy rear sights? Yes, no? 2. Stocks I have a FDE CTR on my build now simply because I had it. I was going to sell it and get the SOPMOD stock even though I don't really like it as much. Then going threw this thread I've seen a couple in country Block II guns that clearly have CTR's on them. Can I assume this is way off from the standard? It would appear that this is the exact rifle you want to build: 
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Posted: 3/19/2012 3:01:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LiquidG]
[#39]
Originally Posted By kdoggy:
OK! Questions. So I'm putting together my Block II build based on the DD M4-A1 FSP RIS II. I know I'm going to have a variance or two from a true Block II but I have some questions. I've read about half the pages in this thread and it's taken a couple weeks so I'm just going to ask. 1. Optics The Elcan is crazy expensive so that simply won't be an option. My next thought was the EOTech 553 but that things seems bulky as hell. Also looking at the EOTech XPS3-0Tan model. What I really like though is the Aimpoint Micro T1. Small, light, looks nice. Have any Block II guns used the Aimpoint maybe on the KAC riser? Troy rear sights? Yes, no? 2. Stocks I have a FDE CTR on my build now simply because I had it. I was going to sell it and get the SOPMOD stock even though I don't really like it as much. Then going threw this thread I've seen a couple in country Block II guns that clearly have CTR's on them. Can I assume this is way off from the standard? 1. Optics: I'd go with one of the EOtechs personally. I just picked up a 553 and don't feel it added much weight at all to my block 1.5 build. You could always get the XPS if your really concerned with weight. I really like the reticule, it's very fast on target. Also i would just go with a matech rear sight, they can be had for around $40 if you check the EE or ebay. 2. Stocks: Sopmod/reg M4 stocks are most common but like you said, plenty of people are using there own stocks in country. I was never a fan of sopmods, till i got one, now i think it will be my go to stock for new builds. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 3:42:18 PM EDT
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Augee-
It seems that the mission currently is to build uppers with what parts are available. The differences I have noted are not service specific, but has mainly to do with what is available at the moment. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:05:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kdoggy]
[#41]
Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By kdoggy:
OK! Questions. So I'm putting together my Block II build based on the DD M4-A1 FSP RIS II. I know I'm going to have a variance or two from a true Block II but I have some questions. I've read about half the pages in this thread and it's taken a couple weeks so I'm just going to ask. 1. Optics The Elcan is crazy expensive so that simply won't be an option. My next thought was the EOTech 553 but that things seems bulky as hell. Also looking at the EOTech XPS3-0Tan model. What I really like though is the Aimpoint Micro T1. Small, light, looks nice. Have any Block II guns used the Aimpoint maybe on the KAC riser? Troy rear sights? Yes, no? 2. Stocks I have a FDE CTR on my build now simply because I had it. I was going to sell it and get the SOPMOD stock even though I don't really like it as much. Then going threw this thread I've seen a couple in country Block II guns that clearly have CTR's on them. Can I assume this is way off from the standard? It would appear that this is the exact rifle you want to build: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/FSP.png ~Augee Something like that! Damn it all to hell though, that black CTR looks better then the FDE one. Here is where I'm sitting right now, keep in mine all the Magpul shit is only there because I already HAD it. This wasn't necessarily built this way because I planned it. I haven't exactly figured out how I plan to finish it out yet. 
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:17:41 PM EDT
[#42]
I was looking for a RIS II for my recce project but I can't seem to find anyone who has it in stock... Maybe there was a giant order for the RIS II's much like the KAC Taupe BUIS?
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MA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:19:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By 11bway2b:
Here is my MK12 MOD1 and M4A1 SOPMOD Block II <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s14.postimage.org/xah3r3jip/ar_s_2.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s15.postimage.org/jrkzgro9n/ar_s.jpg</a> <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s17.postimage.org/jxzjz2isv/m4a1.jpg</a> Upper-Daniel Defense Mid-Length, RIS II in FDE, KAC BUIS's (300m rear), BCM charging handle, JoJo Brake, M3X light, TD VFG, CQD sling mount Lower-Noveske Lower, Daniel Defense LPK, CQD sling mount, Pinned LMT SOPMOD stock Optic-Elcan Specter Dr FDE, military version Sling- VTAC padden (tan) with HK clips (Not Shown) Holy Hell of a 2nd post Batman...Nice pair of rifles you got there Bud. Add a mk18 and you've got a trifecta in my opinion. CQB, General Purpose, and Precison. Thanks man, thats what I'm going for, only 6 more months! I don't like to post much until my projects are complete, and i try to do as much research (lurking) as possible. Plus some of the guys I worked with overseas had some of these rifles. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:26:31 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
I was looking for a RIS II for my recce project but I can't seem to find anyone who has it in stock... Maybe there was a giant order for the RIS II's much like the KAC Taupe BUIS? DSG will have one in stock later this week when I return mine. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:28:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Or everyone on arfcom is buying them up! I would be down for of those GL/SSC RIS II.
Just scored a used docter sight for the Elcan! should look good. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:30:58 PM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
I was looking for a RIS II for my recce project but I can't seem to find anyone who has it in stock... Maybe there was a giant order for the RIS II's much like the KAC Taupe BUIS? DSG will have one in stock later this week when I return mine. Are you returning the one where the barrel came loose? |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:33:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
I was looking for a RIS II for my recce project but I can't seem to find anyone who has it in stock... Maybe there was a giant order for the RIS II's much like the KAC Taupe BUIS? DSG will have one in stock later this week when I return mine. Are you returning the one where the barrel came loose? No, I have a new one I bought but will not be using so I'm returning it (brand new never out of box) |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:42:39 PM EDT
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I was looking at the Block II poster and the ECOS-GL looks bad ass.
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
No, I have a new one I bought but will not be using so I'm returning it (brand new never out of box) Good to know. Thanks for the heads up! 
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Posted: 3/19/2012 6:49:12 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By kdoggy:
OK! Questions. So I'm putting together my Block II build based on the DD M4-A1 FSP RIS II. I know I'm going to have a variance or two from a true Block II but I have some questions. I've read about half the pages in this thread and it's taken a couple weeks so I'm just going to ask. 1. Optics The Elcan is crazy expensive so that simply won't be an option. My next thought was the EOTech 553 but that things seems bulky as hell. Also looking at the EOTech XPS3-0Tan model. What I really like though is the Aimpoint Micro T1. Small, light, looks nice. Have any Block II guns used the Aimpoint maybe on the KAC riser? Troy rear sights? Yes, no? 2. Stocks I have a FDE CTR on my build now simply because I had it. I was going to sell it and get the SOPMOD stock even though I don't really like it as much. Then going threw this thread I've seen a couple in country Block II guns that clearly have CTR's on them. Can I assume this is way off from the standard? It would appear that this is the exact rifle you want to build: http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/FSP.png ~Augee Check out the T1. |
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Posted: 3/19/2012 6:56:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By LiquidG:
Originally Posted By patriot_man:
Here is a picture of the Insight VBL III aka the WMX-200 in use. Granted it might not be on a Block II but I have to say it's the first picture of it I've seen out in the wild. I didn't want to embed it because it was huge and didn't know if it would resize. Make sure to zoom in to get a good look. Anyone here use a WMX200 or have any experience with one? I can order one at an amazing price and was thinking of selling my mini scout and putting one on my block 2 clone. Didn't it replace the m3x? Also, do share your amazing price, as all the ones I saw were way too expensive. Can't give the exact amount, its confidential as I work for a L3 company and it's an employee only discount. I love thje Asolo Fugitive boots....vaginas for the feet
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