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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I'm gonna get you a miller for Xmas as and duct tape BAD levers and redi mags all over it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
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Looks exactly the same. Possible that they're owned by the same company? |
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Originally Posted By brodband8: wtf is going on with Colt's lower markings. All engraved now? View Quote Colt just OK'd the licensing. They can't actually even look up those serials for production info. I'm totally blanking on the third party company that did it. It's not Colt Competition, though. Easiest way to tell is the safe/fire markings. You can call up Colt CS and ask, he was super helpful and willing to talk about it. Limited run is over, though and they're not renewing it. All the LE and CR lowers coming out of Colt are still rollmarked, and the CR 6920s actually got a new rollmark machine. No more CC_T. Lots of good info over at: https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Brownells-Colt-Complete-Lower-Sale-249/29-285688/ |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Thanks for posting it here. I wouldn't have checked that thread, otherwise. I agree with this, wholeheartedly. I only posted what I did because I believe in full disclosure. I feel like this should be mentioned. And so does SF, apparently. I'd like to clarify, my 212 does look good, save for the collar. Baffles and actual finish is damn near mint, but the locking SOCOM collar is absolutely rekt. Maybe it was the OG collar that was brought back and surefire couldn't refinish it, I dunno. But it's not great at all. I wouldn't have even looked into it if it weren't for that combined with the RMA, and some weird white X chalk marks on the pouch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
I asked in the Arms Unlimited industry forum about the Surefire suppressors they’ve been selling.... Originally Posted By KLamper: They are contradicting themselves for one and were omitting the fact that some were/are used suppressors. It would have been better if they fully disclosed the circumstances surrounding the suppressors. Maybe grading them A,B and C as far as condition, KAC did something similar with some Delta trade in SR25s a few years back. I'd like to clarify, my 212 does look good, save for the collar. Baffles and actual finish is damn near mint, but the locking SOCOM collar is absolutely rekt. Maybe it was the OG collar that was brought back and surefire couldn't refinish it, I dunno. But it's not great at all. I wouldn't have even looked into it if it weren't for that combined with the RMA, and some weird white X chalk marks on the pouch. Colt fucking 20" HBAR 1/9 twist. No handguard, no brake/collar. $999. And he is telling people that barrel is correct for the Mk12, 1/9 is completely correct for the Mk12 and Mk262 was created for 1/9 twist, "yada yada many variations in the Mk12 program" lecturing dudes on made up incorrect bullshit to sell bullshit as a correctly built Mk12. It is disgraceful |
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Fuck it, colt lowers a colt lower.
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Code word is Yellow Umbrella.
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Unless it's an Anderson. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/COLT_RECEIVER-LG-1-540408.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Fuck it, colt lowers a colt lower. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416992/COLT_RECEIVER-LG-1-540408.jpg Looks almost like it was fucking hand made or someshit. Even the anodizing sucks |
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Those weirdo looking engraved Colt lowers actually make me feel a little less annoyed about the disaster of a Colt lower I have, lol. At least it's rollmarked. Good to hear they got a new rollmark machine... hopefully my next Colt won't be a Cc_t, lol.
In truth, the mismatched selector stop milling on mine bothers me a lot more than the rollmark; I don't even really care about the rollmark because of that. Of course, it's sorta like, "You have two broken legs and a pulled muscle." If I didn't have the two broken legs, I might be bothered a little more about the pulled muscle. Add in the two broken legged, monkeyfucked selector stops? Who cares bout a rollmark. |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Picked this up from my FFL 2 weeks ago. Brownells lowers are rolled. https://i.imgur.com/lUaKTNX.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/Tdfckgj.jpg?1 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Originally Posted By FONTY: Does anyone know if the Brownells Colt lowers receiver's are all engraved now or is this just on new production complete rifles? https://i.imgur.com/lUaKTNX.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/Tdfckgj.jpg?1 |
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Originally Posted By Spooled:
Bolt catch worth more than my lower check out the last 3 of the serial though https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/297824/789FD2A8-4AA7-47C1-8D0F-A1E27C92E4BA-540423.JPG View Quote ETA: Ye, thee... close enough. |
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Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Called Colt on this. Was just a limited run done by a third party for.... you guessed it, Arms Unlimited. Colt just OK'd the licensing. They can't actually even look up those serials for production info. I'm totally blanking on the third party company that did it. It's not Colt Competition, though. Easiest way to tell is the safe/fire markings. You can call up Colt CS and ask, he was super helpful and willing to talk about it. Limited run is over, though and they're not renewing it. All the LE and CR lowers coming out of Colt are still rollmarked, and the CR 6920s actually got a new rollmark machine. No more CC_T. Lots of good info over at: https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Brownells-Colt-Complete-Lower-Sale-249/29-285688/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vanquishings:
Originally Posted By brodband8: wtf is going on with Colt's lower markings. All engraved now? Colt just OK'd the licensing. They can't actually even look up those serials for production info. I'm totally blanking on the third party company that did it. It's not Colt Competition, though. Easiest way to tell is the safe/fire markings. You can call up Colt CS and ask, he was super helpful and willing to talk about it. Limited run is over, though and they're not renewing it. All the LE and CR lowers coming out of Colt are still rollmarked, and the CR 6920s actually got a new rollmark machine. No more CC_T. Lots of good info over at: https://www.ar15.com/forums/industry/Brownells-Colt-Complete-Lower-Sale-249/29-285688/ |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Picked this up from my FFL 2 weeks ago. Brownells lowers are rolled. https://i.imgur.com/lUaKTNX.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/Tdfckgj.jpg?1 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Originally Posted By FONTY: Does anyone know if the Brownells Colt lowers receiver's are all engraved now or is this just on new production complete rifles? https://i.imgur.com/lUaKTNX.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/Tdfckgj.jpg?1 |
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To clear up the inaccuracies that vanquishings posted.
NO, the SureFire cans we are selling are not used. The SOCOM series suppressors we sell are all BRAND NEW, even at the discounted rate, we bought an enormous number of them, none were used and no one at SureFire would have said that. The FA556-212 legacy suppressors we recently listed are all new old stock, unfired units that came from the military. Surefire (not us) took these back in trade from the military when the military upgraded to SOCOM model suppressors. The majority were never fired, a small percentage were fired but never fielded, lightly used. SureFire inspected, certified and repainted all of the suppressors the same way they would a newly manufactured unit, they also installed new SOCOM style rings on all of them. It is very easy to determine they weren't fired by taking a look inside the suppressor, the locking collars all have scuffs that look like happened in the painting process. They absolutely were not fielded, and the majority just sat unused in a military armory until being returned for upgraded models. Neither the military or SureFire would have allowed military fielded silencers to be resold to the public. The fired 212 suppressors were separated and are to be sold at a later date when all the new unfired units have sold, and they will clearly be listed as previously fired suppressors. And now for vanquishings claim that Colt made lowers engraved instead of rollmarked specially for us, simply not true, what would be the point of them doing that? Before Colt began selling lowers to Brownells we were receiving all Colt's supply of completed lowers, some were being sent from their West Hartford factory and some were being sent from Bold Ideas who was making expanse rifles for Colt at the time. |
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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Originally Posted By ArmsUnlimited:
To clear up the inaccuracies that vanquishings posted. NO, the SureFire cans we are selling are not used. The SOCOM series suppressors we sell are all BRAND NEW, even at the discounted rate, we bought an enormous number of them, none were used and no one at SureFire would have said that. The FA556-212 legacy suppressors we recently listed are all new old stock, unfired units that came from the military. Surefire (not us) took these back in trade from the military when the military upgraded to SOCOM model suppressors. The majority were never fired, a small percentage were fired but never fielded, lightly used. SureFire inspected, certified and repainted all of the suppressors the same way they would a newly manufactured unit, they also installed new SOCOM style rings on all of them. It is very easy to determine they weren't fired by taking a look inside the suppressor, the locking collars all have scuffs that look like happened in the painting process. They absolutely were not fielded, and the majority just sat unused in a military armory until being returned for upgraded models. Neither the military or SureFire would have allowed military fielded silencers to be resold to the public. The fired 212 suppressors were separated and are to be sold at a later date when all the new unfired units have sold, and they will clearly be listed as previously fired suppressors. And now for vanquishings claim that Colt made lowers engraved instead of rollmarked specially for us, simply not true, what would be the point of them doing that? Before Colt began selling lowers to Brownells we were receiving all Colt's supply of completed lowers, some were being sent from their West Hartford factory and some were being sent from Bold Ideas who was making expanse rifles for Colt at the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmsUnlimited:
To clear up the inaccuracies that vanquishings posted. NO, the SureFire cans we are selling are not used. The SOCOM series suppressors we sell are all BRAND NEW, even at the discounted rate, we bought an enormous number of them, none were used and no one at SureFire would have said that. The FA556-212 legacy suppressors we recently listed are all new old stock, unfired units that came from the military. Surefire (not us) took these back in trade from the military when the military upgraded to SOCOM model suppressors. The majority were never fired, a small percentage were fired but never fielded, lightly used. SureFire inspected, certified and repainted all of the suppressors the same way they would a newly manufactured unit, they also installed new SOCOM style rings on all of them. It is very easy to determine they weren't fired by taking a look inside the suppressor, the locking collars all have scuffs that look like happened in the painting process. They absolutely were not fielded, and the majority just sat unused in a military armory until being returned for upgraded models. Neither the military or SureFire would have allowed military fielded silencers to be resold to the public. The fired 212 suppressors were separated and are to be sold at a later date when all the new unfired units have sold, and they will clearly be listed as previously fired suppressors. And now for vanquishings claim that Colt made lowers engraved instead of rollmarked specially for us, simply not true, what would be the point of them doing that? Before Colt began selling lowers to Brownells we were receiving all Colt's supply of completed lowers, some were being sent from their West Hartford factory and some were being sent from Bold Ideas who was making expanse rifles for Colt at the time. NO, the SureFire cans we are selling are not used. The SOCOM series suppressors we sell are all BRAND NEW, even at the discounted rate, we bought an enormous number of them, none were used and no one at SureFire would have said that. If they gave me wrong information, that's odd, considering it's their product, and they were able to look up not only it's serial number, but the RMA number as well.... Mistakes happen, but if that's the case, I'd call your Surefire Rep pretty quickly if I were you guys.... The FA556-212 legacy suppressors we recently listed are all new old stock, unfired units that came from the military. Surefire (not us) took these back in trade from the military when the military upgraded to SOCOM model suppressors. The majority were never fired, a small percentage were fired but never fielded, lightly used. SureFire inspected, certified and repainted all of the suppressors the same way they would a newly manufactured unit, they also installed new SOCOM style rings on all of them. It is very easy to determine they weren't fired by taking a look inside the suppressor, the locking collars all have scuffs that look like happened in the painting process. They absolutely were not fielded, and the majority just sat unused in a military armory until being returned for upgraded models. Neither the military or SureFire would have allowed military fielded silencers to be resold to the public. The fired 212 suppressors were separated and are to be sold at a later date when all the new unfired units have sold, and they will clearly be listed as previously fired suppressors. And now for vanquishings claim that Colt made lowers engraved instead of rollmarked specially for us, simply not true, what would be the point of them doing that? Before Colt began selling lowers to Brownells we were receiving all Colt's supply of completed lowers, some were being sent from their West Hartford factory and some were being sent from Bold Ideas who was making expanse rifles for Colt at the time. Why would I lie about any of this? The reps I talked to were more than helpful. And I'd be happy to provide names for all those I came into contact with. You guys have got my money, so I'm not sure why I'd conjure up "inaccuracies." Hell, I don't even really care about either of these issues. I submitted my form 4 on the 212, and the Colt Lower is sitting in my safe. Just wanted to let people know what was going on if they get a Surefire can with a beatup collar and RMA # on it from you guys. This reply only further represents your reputation on here. |
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We appreciate your business and try to respond to every inquiry. We have tens of thousands of customers and hundreds of different products; our customer service reps don't know always know in depth details about specific products which is why they refer customers to the factories for anything outside their scope, which is simply servicing or placing orders.
Your initial post clearly said "all the SureFire suppressors AU sells are well used and refurbished", which obviously caused some alarm amongst other customers of ours. It is simply not true and unfortunate that you chose to word things the way you did. If someone relayed this to you as you are saying, I'd love for you to PM me with the persons name as they are absolutely incorrect. We deal with the top of the command chains at both Colt and SureFire, which is how we get all the special deals. If we were truly as shady as everyone on the internet makes us out to be we wouldn't have such close working relationships with all the top tier manufacturers. My response to your post has been made for others and I am not going to get into it any further, let this thread go back on course about MK18 rifles. |
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I appreciate the clarification and follow up.
Originally Posted By ArmsUnlimited:
We appreciate your business and try to respond to every inquiry. We have tens of thousands of customers and hundreds of different products; our customer service reps don't know always know in depth details about specific products which is why they refer customers to the factories for anything outside their scope, which is simply servicing or placing orders. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmsUnlimited:
We appreciate your business and try to respond to every inquiry. We have tens of thousands of customers and hundreds of different products; our customer service reps don't know always know in depth details about specific products which is why they refer customers to the factories for anything outside their scope, which is simply servicing or placing orders. Your initial post clearly said "all the SureFire suppressors AU sells are well used and refurbished", which obviously caused some alarm amongst other customers of ours. It is simply not true and unfortunate that you chose to word things the way you did. If someone relayed this to you as you are saying, I'd love for you to PM me with the persons name as they are absolutely incorrect. FWIW, I'm happy with my 212, and I think every other buyer would be as well with their 212s, and RCs. I'm angry I didn't grab an RC, myself. I merely mentioned it for the sake of disclosure, according to what Surefire told me. If they are incorrect, I would urge you to get in contact with them and figure out what is what, and post it on AU as soon as possible. My response to your post has been made for others and I am not going to get into it any further, let this thread go back on course about MK18 rifles. |
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Thanks Squirrel and thanks for the links JJREA.
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Brownell's has the Colt complete lowers on sale today.
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I'm just here for the Dillo Dust
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the COT lowers?
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What are you gonna do brother? When 72oz of Cola runs wild on you!
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I'm just here for the Dillo Dust
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Originally Posted By IceAuger:
Brownell's has the Colt complete lowers on sale today. View Quote They also have the DD Mk18's on sale as well. ** |
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Put some blue lipstick on her. Now it’s exactly 2.4186% more clone correct, right guys? right?. also found out today my mk18 has 3 fire modes. safe, semi, and disco
MK18 CQBR Block II by AV12G, on Flickr PEQ15 in the night by AV12G, on Flickr Disco Party by AV12G, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By White_knight:
Put some blue lipstick on her. Now it’s exactly 2.4186% more clone correct, right guys? right?. also found out today my mk18 has 3 fire modes. safe, semi, and disco https://farm1.staticflickr.com/965/41136000235_cec4d1504a_o.jpgMK18 CQBR Block II by AV12G, on Flickr https://farm1.staticflickr.com/958/41997924302_7793aac850_k.jpgPEQ15 in the night by AV12G, on Flickr https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/40228482070_ab07830a14_k.jpgDisco Party by AV12G, on Flickr View Quote |
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Originally Posted By White_knight:
Put some blue lipstick on her. Now it’s exactly 2.4186% more clone correct, right guys? right?. also found out today my mk18 has 3 fire modes. safe, semi, and disco https://farm1.staticflickr.com/965/41136000235_cec4d1504a_o.jpgMK18 CQBR Block II by AV12G, on Flickr https://farm1.staticflickr.com/958/41997924302_7793aac850_k.jpgPEQ15 in the night by AV12G, on Flickr https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/40228482070_ab07830a14_k.jpgDisco Party by AV12G, on Flickr View Quote |
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What's the going rate for used MK12/MK18 99051 front sights in the old darker brown taupe?
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73:
Team 4 guy.... https://farm1.staticflickr.com/946/40235827220_1724c2dd24_o.jpg View Quote |
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What I aspire to have!!
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There are no stupid questions...but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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So, I want a mod 0. Unfortunately, I go to sea for a living, and want an assembled upper when I get back. SAW and High Caliber Sales are exactly the same price. Is there one or the other I should buy from?
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There are no stupid questions...but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
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TNTE Sales has them too. But I've heard complaints about them. YMMV tho..
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
You graced him with your presence? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By IceAuger:
Brownell's has the Colt complete lowers on sale today. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ThRob: Thank you, got mine coming. $259 shipped with code "M8Y" |
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Code word is Yellow Umbrella.
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