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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:15:43 PM EST
[#1]
A little test. Just dipping my toe into the "potentially painting the CQBR" waters...
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:59:46 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IceAuger:
Sorry. I had to get one for the CQBR to replace the Spike's, one for the future URG-I 14.5, and one for the future-future URG-I 10.3 (you know it'll be available some day). At least that's the plan for now. The Colt's were cheaper a while back and I missed out at that time so I've been waiting to strike if they came up again at a good price. There might be a better deal down the road but I wasn't going to take the chance. Rip the band-aid off and be done with it, I say. Since I had the credit card out I also threw a Brownell's/Nodak Spud M16A1 lower in the cart for the Mk12 Mod0 that has needed something other than the Spike's placeholder which has been on there for way too long. 
Four is three, three is two, something something...  URG-I 10.3 is the one I am most excited for. Pics of it keep popping up on the interwebs lately. I'll probably wait until you can get the rails separately though unless there are any proprietary parts specific to the complete uppers. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:10:01 PM EST
[#3]
I also think that the URG-I 10.3 will be available at some point. Of course the story is that it may not be available to civilians but that just seems like marketing.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 10:49:07 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
Just dropping a picture. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/78310/20180511_181751-541137.JPG |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2018 11:35:30 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Thanks Squirrel and thanks for the links JJREA.  |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:13:02 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Ha, for letting me know Numrich has A1 grips. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Thanks Squirrel and thanks for the links JJREA. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:53:55 AM EST
[#7]
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels?
If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:55:28 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:04:37 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Both of mine are Colt 10.3s as the good lord intended. (1 block 2 and 1 block 1/mod 0) |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:21:33 AM EST
[#10]
Noveske N4 10.5"; but gracious sakes, don't make the same mistake I did ;p.
Doing it over, I'd run either a DD 10.3" with the proper FSB (obviously not the fucktarded proprietary FSB from DD), a Colt 10.3", or BA 10.3" from Andro Corp. As to what I'll replace the Noveske 10.5 with once it's shot out, that really depends. Hopefully I can pick up a factory Colt 10.3" between now and then, or maybe I'll get one chopped. I might end up getting a BA 10.3 just to try it. Considering I'll be needing to replace the DD 10.3 in my CQBR in the not so distant future - and since I shoot a lot of steel case - going with a less expensive barrel might make sense. It'd be nice to have an idea how they perform. Of course, if I'm able to get my hands on some factory Colt 10.3s, then I'll go that route for both come replacement time. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:27:57 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 3:38:30 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Of course that would be ideal.. But, you know.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Both of mine are Colt 10.3s as the good lord intended. (1 block 2 and 1 block 1/mod 0) I have one 10.5 fn barrel I've been seeing a lot of ppl post their adco chop was closer to 10.45. I suspect this has something to do with the suppressor the original intends to use as some require more room. It's really not that expensive to find a colt barrel on the EE and send it in. Plus you'll sleep better .
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Posted: 5/12/2018 4:02:07 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:52:52 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. I'd use a Colt, but they are impossible to find. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:28:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: rbgonoles]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
I had Adco chop my Colt 6920 barrel to 10.3" and couldn't be happier. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Originally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks.  image ru
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:41:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: Toyoland66]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 9:39:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: tanodized]
[#17]
I've found many of the newer production 6920 barrels are not 'O' stamped near the chamber. For that reason, I only chop down original 14.5" Colt M4 barrels just as Crane would. And yes, I am that autistic concerning those details. Here's an example of my favorite CQBR setup with barrel modifications performed by ADCO.
Colt/FN M4A1 CQBR: 10.3" Govt. Barrel w/ Badger Ordnance Mk12 Gas Block, Daniel Defense Mk18 RIS II, EOTech SU-231, Insight ATPIAL-C, WMX200 & Dual Pressure Switch, Colt N1 Stock, CQD Forward & Rear Sling Mount, PRI Gas Buster Charging Handle, Surefire SF4P Flash Hider & SOCOM556-RC Suppressor 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 9:55:59 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi:
AndroCorp. I'd use a Colt, but they are impossible to find. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:04:24 AM EST
[#19]
Less than clone correct:
But done unless I get a FF RAS |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:15:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#20]
I know AU has been a salty subject but I saw they had some SF SB's. How far off are those really from the RC? I read that the baffles were bored out a little more but is that all? Kind of tempting for the price TBH and since I missed out on cheap RC's.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:52:33 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
I know AU has been a salty subject but I saw they had some SF SB's. How far off are those really from the RC? I read that the baffles were bored out a little more but is that all? Kind of tempting for the price TBH and since I missed out on cheap RC's. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 10:56:32 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compuvette: Yes, bigger bore but otherwise the same. No NSN though. I’ve got a pair of them (Black and “tan”). |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:01:06 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
I know AU has been a salty subject but I saw they had some SF SB's. How far off are those really from the RC? I read that the baffles were bored out a little more but is that all? Kind of tempting for the price TBH and since I missed out on cheap RC's. I think the RC2 front end difference is much more noticeable than no NSN. Or moar corncob! |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:04:51 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
I had Adco chop my Colt 6920 barrel to 10.3" and couldn't be happier. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J_MONEY:
Originally Posted By wissota4:
What are all the mod 0 guys using for barrels? If you have a mod 0, please give me the details on your barrel. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 1:13:34 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Best option besides RC IMO. I think the RC2 front end difference is much more noticeable than no NSN. Or moar corncob! 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:10:33 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
That corncob price tho. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Best option besides RC IMO. I think the RC2 front end difference is much more noticeable than no NSN. Or moar corncob! Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:16:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Yeah, it sucks :|. Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:17:31 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Yeah, it sucks :|. Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:31:15 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Yea man, my wife even told me to buy an NT4 but I'm still on the fence. After sales tax and a stamp it's $19XX, kinda hard pill to swallow for another 556 can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Originally Posted By krdt: Yeah, it sucks :|. Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:36:20 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
That’s a huge bummer about the NT4. I don’t think it uses any high tech materials or manufacturing processes, but it’s more expensive than any other 5.56 can I know of. I think they should be priced more like an AEM5. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By Spooled:
Originally Posted By krdt: Yeah, it sucks :|. Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:42:51 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Pretty much what I paid for my Sandman S and K combined with stamps lol. Gotta pay for the koolaid man, especially with cloning. I definitely prefer the tone of the NT4 too by far after hearing both in person, just wish they would go on sale Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By krdt: Yeah, it sucks :|. Remove price from the equation and I kinda prefer the NT4 to the RC. Not saying I wouldn't have an RC as well, but I'd probably be waiting on an NT4 right now if they weren't literally twice as expensive. I mean, for fuck sake... $1700+ with a stamp for a suppressor? |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:43:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: aaron580]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yup. As with any new KAC product, you’re paying for the name. But in most cases it is worth it |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:45:17 PM EST
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:45:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: I'm willing to pay for the Koolaid, but only up to a point, lol. Hence why I got the RC flavored Koolaid and not the NT4 flavored Koolaid ;p. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:46:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Yup. My nt4 check was cashed 11/11, so hopefully soon.... I've got about 1500 in mine with the stamp I think Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yup. As with any new KAC product, you’re paying for the name. But in most cases it is worth it I have $1075 into my RC with the stamp and transfer (bought when they were $825, unfortunately). So, it wasn't cheap by any means... but tacking on another $700 to that is pretty painful. ETA: My check was cashed 11/28, and nfatracker is showing forms returning from as late as 11/20 cash dates. Hopefully soon :D. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 2:47:36 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Yup. My nt4 check was cashed 11/11, so hopefully soon.... I've got about 1500 in mine with the stamp I think. 11/19 on my RC Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aaron580:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yup. As with any new KAC product, you’re paying for the name. But in most cases it is worth it
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Posted: 5/12/2018 3:22:05 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
That corncob price tho. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Best option besides RC IMO. I think the RC2 front end difference is much more noticeable than no NSN. Or moar corncob! I was very fortunate to have paid $995 total (including stamp and $100 transfer fee) on my RC, so hard to want to pony up $1450 + $200 + 100 for me for an NT4, but I think I'll never be satisfied without having one on my Mk 18 when it's finished. I'll run the RC on it in the meantime.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 5:41:14 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Yeah I feel ya bro. I think I could get an AEM5 and RC for the price of the NT4 with transfer. I was very fortunate to have paid $995 total (including stamp and $100 transfer fee) on my RC, so hard to want to pony up $1450 + $200 + 100 for me for an NT4, but I think I'll never be satisfied without having one on my Mk 18 when it's finished. I'll run the RC on it in the meantime. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:37:42 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
A hundred bones for a transfer? Ouch Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Yeah I feel ya bro. I think I could get an AEM5 and RC for the price of the NT4 with transfer. I was very fortunate to have paid $995 total (including stamp and $100 transfer fee) on my RC, so hard to want to pony up $1450 + $200 + 100 for me for an NT4, but I think I'll never be satisfied without having one on my Mk 18 when it's finished. I'll run the RC on it in the meantime. They charge $50 for an individual and $100 for a trust. But, I would pay close to the same for sales tax, so it doesn't make a big difference to me in the long run I guess, as my NFA store has a pretty small selection, so whatever higher grade items I want are never in stock. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:37:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
A little test. Just dipping my toe into the "potentially painting the CQBR" waters... http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.051118.Painted.Lower-01.jpg Got a sweet deal on a 553/su231. Got it locally through armslist. It was face to face so I wasn't worried. $400. Inspection was nov 2014 and I believe these were discontinued in December 2014. It had a little paint on it, but it came off easy. Now to ship it to Carolina laser works. 
Eta- that's some strange anodizing. The top pic, the base appears dark. In The bottom pic, the base appears to be lighter. Lighting plays a big role on the color variation. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 6:43:35 PM EST
[#41]
I managed to squeeze the range in between some thunderstorms today. Took the Mk18 out as well as the Colt 6945. I committed a cardinal sin in replacing the A2 with a Griffin single port brake. I had it laying around and figured “why not”. Sacrificial baffle and all that. Capped off a couple rounds without the M4SDK on and damn! Forgot how loud a 10.3” with a brake is. As I only had plugs in the can went on pronto!
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:18:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#42]
^^^^ very nice. Ya, this Indiana rain is unpredictable. Love the ti-7
Here's the eo fam. 551, 552, 553, and exps3-0. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:31:28 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compuvette:
I managed to squeeze the range in between some thunderstorms today. Took the Mk18 out as well as the Colt 6945. I committed a cardinal sin in replacing the A2 with a Griffin single port brake. I had it laying around and figured “why not”. Sacrificial baffle and all that. Capped off a couple rounds without the M4SDK on and damn! Forgot how loud a 10.3” with a brake is. As I only had plugs in the can went on pronto! https://i.imgur.com/jSxoHDB.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:46:43 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr:
Stick with the two tone replacement upper look. Mine has really grown on me. Got a sweet deal on a 553/su231. Got it locally through armslist. It was face to face so I wasn't worried. $400. Inspection was nov 2014 and I believe these were discontinued in December 2014. It had a little paint on it, but it came off easy. Now to ship it to Carolina laser works. http://i.imgur.com/61Rs7Za.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uaaXs7S.jpg Eta- that's some strange anodizing. The top pic, the base appears dark. In The bottom pic, the base appears to be lighter. Lighting plays a big role on the color variation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By krdt:
A little test. Just dipping my toe into the "potentially painting the CQBR" waters... http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.051118.Painted.Lower-01.jpg Got a sweet deal on a 553/su231. Got it locally through armslist. It was face to face so I wasn't worried. $400. Inspection was nov 2014 and I believe these were discontinued in December 2014. It had a little paint on it, but it came off easy. Now to ship it to Carolina laser works. http://i.imgur.com/61Rs7Za.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uaaXs7S.jpg Eta- that's some strange anodizing. The top pic, the base appears dark. In The bottom pic, the base appears to be lighter. Lighting plays a big role on the color variation. Well, I probably wouldn't do that anyway until I get the Form 1 engraving done. Once it's approved and engraved, then all bets are off :D. The Mod 0 and 3/4 has some reverse two-tone action going on, too: 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 7:53:53 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Yeah, that's a nice post-41f present. They charge $50 for an individual and $100 for a trust. But, I would pay close to the same for sales tax, so it doesn't make a big difference to me in the long run I guess, as my NFA store has a pretty small selection, so whatever higher grade items I want are never in stock.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:30:40 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Dang. I’ve gotta pay $25 for NFA, $10 for everything else Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Yeah, that's a nice post-41f present. They charge $50 for an individual and $100 for a trust. But, I would pay close to the same for sales tax, so it doesn't make a big difference to me in the long run I guess, as my NFA store has a pretty small selection, so whatever higher grade items I want are never in stock. 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:30:58 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:I definitely prefer the tone of the NT4 too by far after hearing both in person, just wish they would go on sale Is there a can that even makes the MK18 hearing safe? Or perhaps a better question is which can makes the MK18 the quietest? I know that the clone correct suppressors weren't necessarily chosen because of noise performance, at least not completely. |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:34:53 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Is that a heat wrap on the top one? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By compuvette:
I managed to squeeze the range in between some thunderstorms today. Took the Mk18 out as well as the Colt 6945. I committed a cardinal sin in replacing the A2 with a Griffin single port brake. I had it laying around and figured “why not”. Sacrificial baffle and all that. Capped off a couple rounds without the M4SDK on and damn! Forgot how loud a 10.3” with a brake is. As I only had plugs in the can went on pronto! https://i.imgur.com/jSxoHDB.jpg |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 8:45:06 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blindrocket: I've read this opinion before, it seems preferred between the two. Is there a can that even makes the MK18 hearing safe? Or perhaps a better question is which can makes the MK18 the quietest? I know that the clone correct suppressors weren't necessarily chosen because of noise performance, at least not completely.
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:09:49 PM EST
[#50]
Not quite correct but.......
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