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Link Posted: 11/6/2014 8:06:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
All the daylight nods pictures make me cringe
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Yeah, pretty sure the photographer asked them to do it. Does look silly tho.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 8:11:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to?

I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3.

This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels.

Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR.

This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products.
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I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 8:19:32 AM EST
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My calipers are dead or I would measure mine. I need pin gauges.

Someone from ADCO posted saying that if you truly want it .070 they'll do it. I wrote a note specifically requesting that because of how this barrel will be used with my current setup.

Link Posted: 11/6/2014 10:18:33 AM EST
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it looks similar to the k12 that firefighters use
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 11:09:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By m4socom:


I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
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Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to?

I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3.

This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels.

Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR.

This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products.


I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 11:33:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to?

I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3.

This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels.

Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR.

This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products.


I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.


This is what I was told as well
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 12:02:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m3racer:


it looks similar to the k12 that firefighters use
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Yup - looks a lot like the K saws I remember using in the fire department.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 1:33:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to?

I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3.

This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels.

Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR.

This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products.


I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.

I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though.

If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes?

If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 1:44:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2014 3:16:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though.

If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes?

If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it.
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to?

I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3.

This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels.

Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR.

This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products.


I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port.  I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071.
 

I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size..

With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed.

I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though.

If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes?

If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it.


You'd have to open it up to the largest setting you'd want to run. I think I'd go for a .076 as my largest for dirty, cold and/or weak ammo, a .070 for unsuppressed and .050ish for suppressed. You can drill them yourself to fine tune it to meet your needs, dependent on what spring and buffer you choose to run. So I plan on starting smaller than this and testing, I run an A5 receiver extension and plan on running a A5H2(currently run a A5H4 with my LMT's .070 port) with my Govnah, so my results will be different when compared to a standard Car receiver extension.

This guy has some good videos documenting the process he went through setting his up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTVgm1xy7ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT-mK5_Z8Q
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 3:32:19 PM EST
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I'll look into those videos later when I have the time.

Just curious if I'll even need an adjustable GB. 99 percent of the time, I'll likely be shooting either PMC XTac 62 grain 5.56 or PMC Bronze 55 grain 223 suppressed.

If I go with a .070, I'd think I would be fully covered with that ammo with or without a can for 100 percent reliability.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 4:47:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll look into those videos later when I have the time.

Just curious if I'll even need an adjustable GB. 99 percent of the time, I'll likely be shooting either PMC XTac 62 grain 5.56 or PMC Bronze 55 grain 223 suppressed.

If I go with a .070, I'd think I would be fully covered with that ammo with or without a can for 100 percent reliability.
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Certainly don't need it, but for me, I just can't leave good enough alone and enjoy the process of trying to optimize my rifle's performance, If I can have a perfectly gassed gun while shooting BOTH suppressed and unsuppressed then it's worth it to me to try it out  

Link Posted: 11/6/2014 4:49:20 PM EST
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Since I have a factory DD barrel, ill probably keep my "wide open" setting as the .08ish that the factory barrel is.  Then step down from there. something near .07, and  .05 hopefully giving me the best of all worlds lol
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 5:53:53 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2014 5:55:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ShiftSix:


Since I have a factory DD barrel, ill probably keep my "wide open" setting as the .08ish that the factory barrel is.  Then step down from there. something near .07, and  .05 hopefully giving me the best of all worlds lol

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I'm just going to rock mine suppressed with the DD factory gas port size - if it's really that bad then I'll consider other options.




Still on the hunt for a Surefire SOCOM in Dark Earth - SilencerShop seems to have the best price, but they're out at the moment...
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:00:32 PM EST
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amphibian, where do I purchase a Govnah if your site shows out of stock?
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:02:17 PM EST
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I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through.

I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red.  I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:02:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:03:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through.

I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red.  I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring
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I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success.

Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:06:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success.

Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before.
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through.

I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red.  I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring

I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success.

Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before.


I put 200 through with the Red, and it rams that fuckin bolt home with that H3 behind it.

Link Posted: 11/6/2014 6:09:44 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/6/2014 8:43:22 PM EST
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Great photo stick.

Link Posted: 11/6/2014 9:26:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

This may be true with some of them, but does not relate to the Griffon HMMS.

The Griffon is rated for sustained full auto fire.

And for precision shooting with a can, a suppressor wrap is utterly necessary. I start to have trouble picking up the target at even just 200 yards at times with a low round count on semi auto. The heat mirage can start to effect your sight picture damn quickly.
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By poser_pilot6:

This.  Suppressor wraps serve a purpose on precision rifles.  They weren't made for shooting rapid fire through them, and can actually melt if you're shooting through mag after mag.  People put them on AR cans because they "look cool" I guess.

This may be true with some of them, but does not relate to the Griffon HMMS.

The Griffon is rated for sustained full auto fire.

And for precision shooting with a can, a suppressor wrap is utterly necessary. I start to have trouble picking up the target at even just 200 yards at times with a low round count on semi auto. The heat mirage can start to effect your sight picture damn quickly.


Didn't know that.  I still would think it to be less than optimal to put a wrap on a can that's going to get that hot.  But to each their own.

I know what you mean about the precision stuff.  Especially in the summer, using 20x zoom makes it damn near impossible to see targets at distance after a few shots with my SpecWar 762.
Link Posted: 11/6/2014 10:20:22 PM EST
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http://youtu.be/fizhDaUZ7WE
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Link Posted: 11/7/2014 12:48:59 PM EST
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Making the conversion from Mod 0 to Mod 1.  I figure in the future if I miss the Mod 0 I can buy another LMT upper for ~$450 and have both.
 



Question: are LaRue mounts repeatable enough to be able to have 2 different optics for 1 upper receiver and switch back and forth without having to re-zero?  I would like to get a ACOG and be able to swap between the T1 and it whenever I want.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 3:25:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By beve:
Making the conversion from Mod 0 to Mod 1.  I figure in the future if I miss the Mod 0 I can buy another LMT upper for ~$450 and have both.  

Question: are LaRue mounts repeatable enough to be able to have 2 different optics for 1 upper receiver and switch back and forth without having to re-zero?  I would like to get a ACOG and be able to swap between the T1 and it whenever I want.
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Yes they are
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 5:47:00 PM EST
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Kind of finished with the Block 1.

I'll be looking for an NT4 when eForms come back up which I'll switch out the normal A2. I don't have a crush washer on the rifle because I'm trying to snag a cheap 51T mount for the time being.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 6:04:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pG1V3t" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15549043939_5813b1c2df_b.jpg</a>

Kind of finished with the Block 1.

I'll be looking for an NT4 when eForms come back up which I'll switch out the normal A2. I don't have a crush washer on the rifle because I'm trying to snag a cheap 51T mount for the time being.
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Looks good man!  I'm liking the painted rear sight.
Just curious, wear abouts are you in FL?  My wife and I are really considering the Sarasota area,  but are really open to either coasts, just looking for some info.
ETA: Beve, keep both, you know you want to
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 6:20:47 PM EST
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I'm down in SWFL.

Originally from Texas though so it's some adjusting.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 6:25:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/7/2014 7:05:16 PM EST
[#33]
Well...you have the rail,kinda.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 7:21:54 PM EST
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What Class III Dealers sell KAC NT4  Can?
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 7:36:43 PM EST
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Well...you have the rail,kinda.
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It's a black mk18 rail. Took me a while to get from an 11.5" bbl to the 10.3"
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 8:05:33 PM EST
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When I was contemplating an NT4 I was about to use Gunbroker.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 8:23:07 PM EST
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There's one in EE.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 8:32:32 PM EST
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Got mine through High Caliber Sales, great guys to deal with. If I ever decide to get a USP-T, I'm going through them again.

William
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:19:28 PM EST
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Currently working on getting this bad boy set up right. Hoping to get new irons tomorrow.







Colt lower, DD MK18 upper, etc etc.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:26:59 PM EST
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Needs the paint!

Also, lose the MBUS,  no BUIS is more correct than those

Looks good though man.

ETA: I know you said your planning to get new irons.  But if you dont, or just for the meantime, I'd lose those.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:33:35 PM EST
[#41]
Had a missed call from silencer shop last night
Thought my socom was approved
Turn out to be nothing
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:38:56 PM EST
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I'm debating painting the Block I which was the original plans. But since I'm not going to paint the M16 lower, I kind of like it being black.

The rear sight I bought painted, and didn't care because I had plans on repainting.

I noticed the M4 Block II thread is majority unpainted guns. They are no fun.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:44:57 PM EST
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Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow.
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:53:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow.
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Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 10:57:13 PM EST
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Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow.

Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol


Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun.
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Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow.

Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol


Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun.

Both of those are solid options. The Army uses the matech on their service rifles, USMC uses KAC. I own and love both, they hold up well for sure. My matech survived 2 deployments to afghanistan before it even got to me and works like brand new, just has some finish wear. The KAC is just as robust. I also like the troy battlesights, but for cloning purposes dont get troy lol
Link Posted: 11/7/2014 11:18:38 PM EST
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Thanks. I have Troy on my Noveske so I was contemplating going that way for the sake of familiarity.
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 5:02:47 PM EST
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^ I wasnt knocking the sights really, they just dont fit the clone aspect
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 8:50:46 PM EST
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Can you buy the Mk18 RIS II in FDE anymore? Can't find one.
Link Posted: 11/8/2014 9:12:32 PM EST
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Can you buy the Mk18 RIS II in FDE anymore? Can't find one.
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http://www.rainierarms.com/dd-mk18-ris-ii-rail-dark-earth
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