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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. View Quote I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. |
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My calipers are dead or I would measure mine. I need pin gauges.
Someone from ADCO posted saying that if you truly want it .070 they'll do it. I wrote a note specifically requesting that because of how this barrel will be used with my current setup. |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
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it looks similar to the k12 that firefighters use
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Originally Posted By m4socom:
I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. This is what I was told as well |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though. If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes? If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though. If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes? If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though. If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes? If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it. You'd have to open it up to the largest setting you'd want to run. I think I'd go for a .076 as my largest for dirty, cold and/or weak ammo, a .070 for unsuppressed and .050ish for suppressed. You can drill them yourself to fine tune it to meet your needs, dependent on what spring and buffer you choose to run. So I plan on starting smaller than this and testing, I run an A5 receiver extension and plan on running a A5H2(currently run a A5H4 with my LMT's .070 port) with my Govnah, so my results will be different when compared to a standard Car receiver extension. This guy has some good videos documenting the process he went through setting his up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTVgm1xy7ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT-mK5_Z8Q |
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I'll look into those videos later when I have the time.
Just curious if I'll even need an adjustable GB. 99 percent of the time, I'll likely be shooting either PMC XTac 62 grain 5.56 or PMC Bronze 55 grain 223 suppressed. If I go with a .070, I'd think I would be fully covered with that ammo with or without a can for 100 percent reliability. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll look into those videos later when I have the time. Just curious if I'll even need an adjustable GB. 99 percent of the time, I'll likely be shooting either PMC XTac 62 grain 5.56 or PMC Bronze 55 grain 223 suppressed. If I go with a .070, I'd think I would be fully covered with that ammo with or without a can for 100 percent reliability. View Quote Certainly don't need it, but for me, I just can't leave good enough alone and enjoy the process of trying to optimize my rifle's performance, If I can have a perfectly gassed gun while shooting BOTH suppressed and unsuppressed then it's worth it to me to try it out |
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Since I have a factory DD barrel, ill probably keep my "wide open" setting as the .08ish that the factory barrel is. Then step down from there. something near .07, and .05 hopefully giving me the best of all worlds lol
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: I'll look into those videos later when I have the time. Just curious if I'll even need an adjustable GB. 99 percent of the time, I'll likely be shooting either PMC XTac 62 grain 5.56 or PMC Bronze 55 grain 223 suppressed. If I go with a .070, I'd think I would be fully covered with that ammo with or without a can for 100 percent reliability. View Quote http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_51/434141_Any_kind_of_tuning_needed_for_reliable_SBR_.html As I posted there: As shown in my videos, I am also getting ZERO malfunctions, suppressed and unsuppressed. Nobody said you NEED optimal performance. You don't NEED to drive 100 miles on the highway in 5th gear....you could drive that distance in 1st gear the whole time. 1st gear can cover that distance just like 5th gear can so why bother with 5th gear? I think the answer to that is obvious. We've done many demo's and the difference to everyone is obvious when running a suppressor w/ regulated gas. We strive hard to make products that really work and proving that they really do work. How do we 'prove' that they work? For the Govnah: 1. Full Auto RoF - adding a suppressor typically adds around 200 RPM faster cycling rate. Suppressors add backpressure which increase the RoF so bringing the port size down brings the system back in balance and RoF will be closer to unsuppressed RoF. Many don't care about full auto and that is not the point. The point is that the results can be quantified and shown with a video for people that are not physically present to do a live fire demo. 2. Gas expelled from the ejection port - while hard to quantify, it is clearly increased and can be seen in videos as seen above and below. 3. Recoil - at this time, this is best experienced in person. However, we are working with some folks now to give actual numbers on this for more quantifiable data. 4. Increased fouling - increased fouling definitely occurs and we have many customers that are extremely pleased at how much cleaner their suppressed AR now runs which allows them to run longer (increasing reliability). 5. Parts stress - a possibility and makes sense but would be hard to quantify. As mentioned above, if your extractor spring is a little on the weak side, you will probably have extraction failures when adding the suppressor IF you are not regulating the gas. I have proven that many times. So logically, your extractor spring has to work harder if not regulating the gas. Many don't care about that and just use an O-ring or extra power extractor spring. I do the latter myself and that is not the point. The point is that I know the spring isn't working as hard and will most likely never need to be replaced since I am running optimal gas in all modes. All that said, we know this product is not for everyone. If none of the 5 points mentioned above are important to you then by all means don't bother with it. The biggest issue for most people is that it is not 'automatic'. Their is a crowd out there that doesn't want to remember to move the regulator plate to the unsuppressed position when they remove the suppressor. We have considered designs to 'automatically' adjust the port sizing when a suppressor is mounted but I personally don't like that idea as I would prefer to have control over the gas under all conditions. Running a 3 position block suppressed, I can go up two port sizes in cases of excessive fouling or adverse conditions. I personally never had to do that but some of our customers may run into those kinds of situations. Likewise, you now have a normal and high for unsuppressed usage as well. >>>>>>>>> Here is another thread with some guys running the Govnah on MK18's:http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_543/254317_Govnah_Install_on_DD_MK18_AAR_.html |
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Originally Posted By ShiftSix: Since I have a factory DD barrel, ill probably keep my "wide open" setting as the .08ish that the factory barrel is. Then step down from there. something near .07, and .05 hopefully giving me the best of all worlds lol View Quote I'm just going to rock mine suppressed with the DD factory gas port size - if it's really that bad then I'll consider other options. Still on the hunt for a Surefire SOCOM in Dark Earth - SilencerShop seems to have the best price, but they're out at the moment...
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amphibian, where do I purchase a Govnah if your site shows out of stock?
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I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through.
I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red. I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN: You'd have to open it up to the largest setting you'd want to run. I think I'd go for a .076 as my largest for dirty, cold and/or weak ammo, a .070 for unsuppressed and .050ish for suppressed. You can drill them yourself to fine tune it to meet your needs, dependent on what spring and buffer you choose to run. So I plan on starting smaller than this and testing, I run an A5 receiver extension and plan on running a A5H2(currently run a A5H4 with my LMT's .070 port) with my Govnah, so my results will be different when compared to a standard Car receiver extension. This guy has some good videos documenting the process he went through setting his up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTVgm1xy7ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT-mK5_Z8Q View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By G_MAN: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By G_MAN: Originally Posted By m4socom: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Ok, one more for you cloners. For those who have sent barrels to ADCO to be chopped down to 10.3, are you able to specify what you want the gas port opened up to? I ask because I recall reading a while back that ADCO would not disclose what they do to the gas ports on barrels they chop down to 10.3. This led me to believe that ADCO does their own proprietary thing when it comes to chopping 10.3 barrels. Basically, after picking up a new Colt SOCOM at my dealer today, and an FDE MK18 RIS II on the EE, I'm thinking about having the factory Colt 16" SOCOM barrel chopped down to 10.3, and going with yet another CQBR. This one will at least get me some clone points, and also allow me to continue bashing Colt while coming off as a more unbiased current owner of their products. I sent my colt gov profile barrel in and requested .070 on the gas port. I don't have any drill bits small enough to verify but the best reading I could get with a micrometer showed .070-.071. I contacted ADCO months ago regarding this and posted their response on here. It was basically something like, We know what we're doing but due to many factors we will not be held accountable for matching an exact port size.. With as many ARs as you have, I'd consider switching it up and putting an adjustable GB(Govnah) on it, another option, is to leave the port as is(.063, which is still over-gassed) as you are shooting exclusively suppressed. I was actually considering the adjustable GB route. Went on the Govnah site, and they show out of stock though. If I went with the Govnah, could I just leave the port as is, or would it need to be opened up to function correctly in various modes? If I go the adjustable GB route, I'd want to take full advantage of it. You'd have to open it up to the largest setting you'd want to run. I think I'd go for a .076 as my largest for dirty, cold and/or weak ammo, a .070 for unsuppressed and .050ish for suppressed. You can drill them yourself to fine tune it to meet your needs, dependent on what spring and buffer you choose to run. So I plan on starting smaller than this and testing, I run an A5 receiver extension and plan on running a A5H2(currently run a A5H4 with my LMT's .070 port) with my Govnah, so my results will be different when compared to a standard Car receiver extension. This guy has some good videos documenting the process he went through setting his up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTVgm1xy7ls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT-mK5_Z8Q Correct...it all comes down to what you have to work with and what you are comfortable doing. In the case of a commercial DD MK18 barrel ported at .082, then that is a perfect candidate for a optimal-unsuppressed/suppressed/adverse setup (.070/.049/.082) since the port in the barrel is already huge and you don't have to alter anything on the original barrel. We've had some customers put them on military MK18 barrels ported to .070 and go with a two position while some want the adverse and are comfortable increasing the port size for an adverse. The A5 shines in overgassed configurations. We have many military/LE customers and many of them don't know what an A5 is. I have found that I had to go up in port size to be reliable in full auto. I personally don't see much gain in the A5 system when you have control of the gas. Controlling the gas is much more drastic than messing with buffers and buffers don't do squat in reducing fouling coming into the action. |
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through. I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red. I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring View Quote I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success. Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success. Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
I am definitely choking mine back when that can comes through. I am already up to a H3 and a Sprinco Red. I am going back to a White, I think I made it worse with the Red spring I run a White and H3 in my pair of 10.3" DD CQBRs with good success. Haven't tried stepping up to a Blue or Red before. I put 200 through with the Red, and it rams that fuckin bolt home with that H3 behind it. |
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Originally Posted By Stickman:
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
This may be true with some of them, but does not relate to the Griffon HMMS. The Griffon is rated for sustained full auto fire. And for precision shooting with a can, a suppressor wrap is utterly necessary. I start to have trouble picking up the target at even just 200 yards at times with a low round count on semi auto. The heat mirage can start to effect your sight picture damn quickly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By poser_pilot6:
This. Suppressor wraps serve a purpose on precision rifles. They weren't made for shooting rapid fire through them, and can actually melt if you're shooting through mag after mag. People put them on AR cans because they "look cool" I guess. This may be true with some of them, but does not relate to the Griffon HMMS. The Griffon is rated for sustained full auto fire. And for precision shooting with a can, a suppressor wrap is utterly necessary. I start to have trouble picking up the target at even just 200 yards at times with a low round count on semi auto. The heat mirage can start to effect your sight picture damn quickly. Didn't know that. I still would think it to be less than optimal to put a wrap on a can that's going to get that hot. But to each their own. I know what you mean about the precision stuff. Especially in the summer, using 20x zoom makes it damn near impossible to see targets at distance after a few shots with my SpecWar 762. |
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Making the conversion from Mod 0 to Mod 1. I figure in the future if I miss the Mod 0 I can buy another LMT upper for ~$450 and have both.
Question: are LaRue mounts repeatable enough to be able to have 2 different optics for 1 upper receiver and switch back and forth without having to re-zero? I would like to get a ACOG and be able to swap between the T1 and it whenever I want.
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Originally Posted By beve:
Making the conversion from Mod 0 to Mod 1. I figure in the future if I miss the Mod 0 I can buy another LMT upper for ~$450 and have both. Question: are LaRue mounts repeatable enough to be able to have 2 different optics for 1 upper receiver and switch back and forth without having to re-zero? I would like to get a ACOG and be able to swap between the T1 and it whenever I want. View Quote Yes they are |
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pG1V3t" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15549043939_5813b1c2df_b.jpg</a> Kind of finished with the Block 1. I'll be looking for an NT4 when eForms come back up which I'll switch out the normal A2. I don't have a crush washer on the rifle because I'm trying to snag a cheap 51T mount for the time being. View Quote Looks good man! I'm liking the painted rear sight. Just curious, wear abouts are you in FL? My wife and I are really considering the Sarasota area, but are really open to either coasts, just looking for some info. ETA: Beve, keep both, you know you want to |
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I'm down in SWFL.
Originally from Texas though so it's some adjusting. |
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Well...you have the rail,kinda.
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What Class III Dealers sell KAC NT4 Can?
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Currently working on getting this bad boy set up right. Hoping to get new irons tomorrow. http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/c9a094b89bdd1a94d2ffad06bd5bcb5a_zps664a1906.jpg http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/6ec24fa241ec71714c81277bb689c28d_zpscfa38515.jpg http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/b5d07968e0ecfc49dfe198c24ffc95d2_zps47d1f8f1.jpg Colt lower, DD MK18 upper, etc etc. View Quote Needs the paint! Also, lose the MBUS, no BUIS is more correct than those Looks good though man. ETA: I know you said your planning to get new irons. But if you dont, or just for the meantime, I'd lose those. |
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Had a missed call from silencer shop last night
Thought my socom was approved Turn out to be nothing |
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I'm debating painting the Block I which was the original plans. But since I'm not going to paint the M16 lower, I kind of like it being black.
The rear sight I bought painted, and didn't care because I had plans on repainting. I noticed the M4 Block II thread is majority unpainted guns. They are no fun. |
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Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow.
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow. View Quote Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow. Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun. |
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TNW:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Haha yep! But this is my SHTF rifle and was my bedside in Baltimore... I'll put the new irons on when I get them. I'm ready for the hate, but I don't think these are as bad as people say they are (functionally)... But yep! Real deal should be on tomorrow. Theyre really not all that terrible, they work fine they just break easy because theyre polymer. I broke one myself, would never use them as a permanent BUIS tho lol Exact same wavelength. I'll probably go the matech/KAC route. Are those pretty robust? That was my biggest concern having them on a SHTF gun. Both of those are solid options. The Army uses the matech on their service rifles, USMC uses KAC. I own and love both, they hold up well for sure. My matech survived 2 deployments to afghanistan before it even got to me and works like brand new, just has some finish wear. The KAC is just as robust. I also like the troy battlesights, but for cloning purposes dont get troy lol |
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Thanks. I have Troy on my Noveske so I was contemplating going that way for the sake of familiarity.
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^ I wasnt knocking the sights really, they just dont fit the clone aspect
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Can you buy the Mk18 RIS II in FDE anymore? Can't find one.
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Can you buy the Mk18 RIS II in FDE anymore? Can't find one. View Quote http://www.rainierarms.com/dd-mk18-ris-ii-rail-dark-earth |
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