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Posted: 9/29/2021 9:12:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RideRed0331: I don't have much info on where or who it came from unfortunately, it was on consignment locally. I requested contact info for the owner, but the best the shop was willing to do was take down mine, give it to the (now previous) owner, and if they wanted to contact me from there they could do so. Haven't been contacted yet. I also believed it may have been the real deal based on how salty it is, but don't have a way to confirm. Also, the Tango Down VFG appears to be much newer than everything else, and the KAC front sight may actually be on backwards?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RideRed0331: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Way off. You'll want to send it to me so I can replace it with the "correct" parts. I don't even recognize what that is? Is that a CMMG? (Just kidding, very nice score. Even better if you got it completely setup the way it is. Looks like it is as issued. Can your local source get more?) Eta- it's not extremely correct, that appears to be an actual mk18 mod1 urg. It's no longer clone, when it's the real deal.  I don't have much info on where or who it came from unfortunately, it was on consignment locally. I requested contact info for the owner, but the best the shop was willing to do was take down mine, give it to the (now previous) owner, and if they wanted to contact me from there they could do so. Haven't been contacted yet. I also believed it may have been the real deal based on how salty it is, but don't have a way to confirm. Also, the Tango Down VFG appears to be much newer than everything else, and the KAC front sight may actually be on backwards?? eta- pg ownership pics Old pics, circa 2017-2018ish.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2021 9:28:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: It is very nice! Does the rail have a date and a lot #? It could be a very dome clone, but it could also be the real deal. So it was on consignment at a local gun store? Correct, but being surplus as mentioned earlier makes a lot of sense to me now though considering the ATPIAL (correct me if I'm wrong?) unit is missing and the EOtech hood may have been swapped. Someone probably picked it up and made some coin off it. I've never really been into this sort of thing but seeing it as salty as it is made me think it may have some pretty cool history, so I grabbed it. I will have to check the rail info when I get home, I will post another picture of that as well |
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Posted: 9/29/2021 9:39:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RideRed0331: Correct, but being surplus as mentioned earlier makes a lot of sense to me now though considering the ATPIAL (correct me if I'm wrong?) unit is missing and the EOtech hood may have been swapped. Someone probably picked it up and made some coin off it. I've never really been into this sort of thing but seeing it as salty as it is made me think it may have some pretty cool history, so I grabbed it. I will have to check the rail info when I get home, I will post another picture of that as well Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RideRed0331: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: It is very nice! Does the rail have a date and a lot #? It could be a very dome clone, but it could also be the real deal. So it was on consignment at a local gun store? Correct, but being surplus as mentioned earlier makes a lot of sense to me now though considering the ATPIAL (correct me if I'm wrong?) unit is missing and the EOtech hood may have been swapped. Someone probably picked it up and made some coin off it. I've never really been into this sort of thing but seeing it as salty as it is made me think it may have some pretty cool history, so I grabbed it. I will have to check the rail info when I get home, I will post another picture of that as well |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2021 9:16:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: It is very nice! Does the rail have a date and a lot #?  |
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Posted: 9/30/2021 12:05:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2Keylows]
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Training vid was posted May of this year.
Some old boi setups. Carry handle rears, black exps and 553s were the stand outs.     
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Posted: 9/30/2021 12:30:32 PM EST
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Very cool. It has all the hallmarks of a legit issued urg. Originally Posted By 2Keylows: Training vid was posted May of this year. Some old boi setups. Carry handle rears, black exps and 553s were the stand outs. https://i.imgur.com/TsRTF5w.jpg https://i.imgur.com/y89Lii8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UKVL6Ud.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4cXKKVn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sEkAUMh.jpg |
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Posted: 9/30/2021 7:39:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Very cool. It has all the hallmarks of a legit issued urg. Don't see lmt rears with a 553 on a block 2 very often. Interesting combo. Despite all the delamination and dimming issues, I still have a soft spot for 553's. I had one that was likely surplus, su231 marked, had tracking barcode on it, that was flawless, yet I still sold it. 553’s just look right on a CQBR to me. I also had a really nice one but like you sold it off before it gave me problems. I had a hard time with the idea of a $500 optic shitting the bed and not even being able to pay to have it repaired. |
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Posted: 9/30/2021 7:47:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: 553's just look right on a CQBR to me. I also had a really nice one but like you sold it off before it gave me problems. I had a hard time with the idea of a $500 optic shitting the bed and not even being able to pay to have it repaired. |
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Posted: 9/30/2021 10:09:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Yup. Best looking block II optic. Also the worst one. Agreed. Super aesthetic. Repost of a repost, but this was always my favorite example. 
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Posted: 9/30/2021 10:56:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Agreed. Super aesthetic. Repost of a repost, but this was always my favorite example. https://i.imgur.com/sA605Qv.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Originally Posted By LsuJon: Yup. Best looking block II optic. Also the worst one. Agreed. Super aesthetic. Repost of a repost, but this was always my favorite example. https://i.imgur.com/sA605Qv.jpg  Attached FileThat is a fine setup right there. Is it just my eyes, or is that one huge sativa bush growing beside him? I bet he was sent there to protect that bush. Reminds of that one scene in revenge of the nerds. "We got bush!" |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 3:30:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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On a Form 1, overall length is that with or without stock collapsed? Mk18 Mod 0 is 26.75" collapsed and 30" extended. Also, with or with NT4?
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Posted: 10/1/2021 3:46:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: On a Form 1, overall length is that with or without stock collapsed? Mk18 Mod 0 is 26.75" collapsed and 30" extended. Also, with or with NT4? Thanks CD The overall length of your SBR is with the stock fully extended and any removable muzzle devices removed. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 3:55:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: The overall length of your SBR is with the stock fully extended and any removable muzzle devices removed. That's what I thought but no positive. Now have two items to borrow from the Navy in a few days to measure. No rush to get it submitted. FD-258 cards requested (have FD-249 here, wrong ones) and not home anyway. CD |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 4:38:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: That's what I thought but no positive. Now have two items to borrow from the Navy in a few days to measure. No rush to get it submitted. FD-258 cards requested (have FD-249 here, wrong ones) and not home anyway. CD Right on. Usually I just guestimate. May not be the correct way to go about it but it's worked for me. Also I figure people are always changing out to longer or shorter muzzle devices and stocks so can go either way. |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 5:05:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: That's what I thought but no positive. Now have two items to borrow from the Navy in a few days to measure. No rush to get it submitted. FD-258 cards requested (have FD-249 here, wrong ones) and not home anyway. CD Originally Posted By brodband8: Right on. Usually I just guestimate. May not be the correct way to go about it but it's worked for me. Also I figure people are always changing out to longer or shorter muzzle devices and stocks so can go either way. Edit- I just checked, and on mine have 29” on them. I must’ve measured without the muzzle device, since it’s not a permanently attached part.The sbr form 1 was definitely not written with the ar15 in mind. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2021 2:40:13 PM EST
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There is multiple- just ran across a SWL SCA AXXXXXX today.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Based on the new picture it's, SWL SAW Axxxxxx. I think his "SWA" was a typo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By 46MUSCLE01: Originally Posted By FoxMulder: I'm only answering this cause your from Alabama. SWL SWA AXXXXXX. X=number Thank you sir!  |
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Posted: 10/1/2021 6:50:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxMulder: There is multiple- just ran across a SWL SCA AXXXXXX today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxMulder: There is multiple- just ran across a SWL SCA AXXXXXX today. Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By 46MUSCLE01: Originally Posted By FoxMulder: I'm only answering this cause your from Alabama. SWL SWA AXXXXXX. X=number Thank you sir! |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 10:31:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: JTM20]
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Opinions on a barrel for a CQBR Block II clone?
I'm between chopping a Colt 16" and getting a factory Daniel Defense 10.3". I'd love a FN SOCOM 10.3" barrel, but they seem to have dried up. Daniel Defense makes great barrels, but do they still hog the gas port out on the 10.3"? |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 11:07:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTM20: Opinions on a barrel for a CQBR Block II clone? I'm between chopping a Colt 16" and getting a factory Daniel Defense 10.3". I'd love a FN SOCOM 10.3" barrel, but they seem to have dried up. Daniel Defense makes great barrels, but do they still hog the gas port out on the 10.3"? The original Crane barrels were 14.5” M4 barrels cut-down so chopping your 16” Colt barrel would produce the same result and be correct. You could also get a factory 10.3” Colt barrel which is what I run on my CQBR. Daniel Defense barrels are fantastic and I believe they now have the correct .070 gas port, it was the older ones that had the huge gas port. If you’re on a budget Ballistic Advantage sells a 10.3” phosphate coated chrome lined barrel with .070 gas port. |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 12:21:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: That's gonna look awesome on there! Glad Onyx arms was able to get crane uppers to a lot of people! I need to source a UID label. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/9B96D89B-5AAD-4942-A7EF-25A6500D028B_jpe-2108154.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By 2Keylows: https://i.imgur.com/gpvnj3a.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/9B96D89B-5AAD-4942-A7EF-25A6500D028B_jpe-2108154.JPG 
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Posted: 10/3/2021 8:00:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:40:09 AM EST
[#22]
That’s it, no mk18 in this live
Lower was from a m16a1 that was brought back from Vietnam, after new anodizing (Milspec II) all scratches are more visible then before. Paint it or leave it? Family picture with his poor brother Bevor you ask, after Commie European Union Gunlaw change from 2019 all my guns are converted to SEMI, a sear Block is mounted and weldet trough a pin. No harm to the lower, you can convert it back when the Law change. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 9:29:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: That is very cool! I say paint the lmt, leave the colt raw. I went ahead and finished up The Mike Glover Clone. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/72225B34-9580-4672-B53F-48FF2FEB016B_jpe-2117591.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/8B2738EE-BABF-480B-85B1-705EF58CD4C1_jpe-2117573.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/E89E9D26-5D67-4562-8724-AE53B5ADDD4F_jpe-2117581.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/99E90614-2DF3-4366-95D9-C3280648CE3A_jpe-2117580.JPG I had to temporarily dismantle my mod0 to put it together, but totally worth it. Just needs a touch of peq-2 and it'd be perfect 
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Posted: 10/4/2021 11:41:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Just needs a touch of peq-2 and it'd be perfect Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don’t really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 12:30:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: That is very cool! I say paint the lmt, leave the colt raw. I went ahead and finished up The Mike Glover Clone. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/72225B34-9580-4672-B53F-48FF2FEB016B_jpe-2117591.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/8B2738EE-BABF-480B-85B1-705EF58CD4C1_jpe-2117573.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/E89E9D26-5D67-4562-8724-AE53B5ADDD4F_jpe-2117581.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/99E90614-2DF3-4366-95D9-C3280648CE3A_jpe-2117580.JPG I had to temporarily dismantle my mod0 to put it together, but totally worth it. Please show up to one of his carbine classes with this build. Would be awesome to see his reaction and have him run it. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 2:16:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Please show up to one of his carbine classes with this build. Would be awesome to see his reaction and have him run it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: That is very cool! I say paint the lmt, leave the colt raw. I went ahead and finished up The Mike Glover Clone. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/72225B34-9580-4672-B53F-48FF2FEB016B_jpe-2117591.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/8B2738EE-BABF-480B-85B1-705EF58CD4C1_jpe-2117573.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/E89E9D26-5D67-4562-8724-AE53B5ADDD4F_jpe-2117581.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/99E90614-2DF3-4366-95D9-C3280648CE3A_jpe-2117580.JPG I had to temporarily dismantle my mod0 to put it together, but totally worth it. Please show up to one of his carbine classes with this build. Would be awesome to see his reaction and have him run it. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 2:31:31 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: I know! I Have zero use for an ir aimng device, but it completes the build. I've seen the peq 5 mounted on other setups of his, so it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he once had it set up on this build. I wish I knew someone that had a non functioning one I could get on the cheap just for clone sake. Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don’t really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/DA03031A-E800-4B24-B5F8-E9BBA8C13B1E_jpe-2117835.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/4A1B2E2E-8EF2-4ED2-966D-37D1F8B1CE2D_jpe-2117837.JPG I know the external blemish are really cool to most people, however, if you ever want to clean them up, I’ve had great results using Birchwood Casey degreaser and Aluminum Black. In my experience the degreasing and going slow has worked great. I don’t think I would use it on any of the laser etching. I can’t speak to that. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 4:07:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: If you guys want to start a gofundme/fundraiser to send me to one of his classes, I'd gladly do it!  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 10:31:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384425/i-found-you-a-dollar_jpg-2118253.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: If you guys want to start a gofundme/fundraiser to send me to one of his classes, I'd gladly do it! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384425/i-found-you-a-dollar_jpg-2118253.JPG
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Posted: 10/4/2021 10:37:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevTEG: I know the external blemish are really cool to most people, however, if you ever want to clean them up, I've had great results using Birchwood Casey degreaser and Aluminum Black. In my experience the degreasing and going slow has worked great. I don't think I would use it on any of the laser etching. I can't speak to that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevTEG: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: I know! I Have zero use for an ir aimng device, but it completes the build. I've seen the peq 5 mounted on other setups of his, so it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he once had it set up on this build. I wish I knew someone that had a non functioning one I could get on the cheap just for clone sake. Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don't really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/DA03031A-E800-4B24-B5F8-E9BBA8C13B1E_jpe-2117835.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/4A1B2E2E-8EF2-4ED2-966D-37D1F8B1CE2D_jpe-2117837.JPG I know the external blemish are really cool to most people, however, if you ever want to clean them up, I've had great results using Birchwood Casey degreaser and Aluminum Black. In my experience the degreasing and going slow has worked great. I don't think I would use it on any of the laser etching. I can't speak to that. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:18:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: I know! I Have zero use for an ir aimng device, but it completes the build. I've seen the peq 5 mounted on other setups of his, so it is not beyond the realm of possibility that he once had it set up on this build. I wish I knew someone that had a non functioning one I could get on the cheap just for clone sake. Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don’t really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/DA03031A-E800-4B24-B5F8-E9BBA8C13B1E_jpe-2117835.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/4A1B2E2E-8EF2-4ED2-966D-37D1F8B1CE2D_jpe-2117837.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By js1977: Just needs a touch of peq-2 and it'd be perfect Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don’t really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/DA03031A-E800-4B24-B5F8-E9BBA8C13B1E_jpe-2117835.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/4A1B2E2E-8EF2-4ED2-966D-37D1F8B1CE2D_jpe-2117837.JPG The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:30:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. and don't be like that one guy who has 10 peqs and zero nvgs lol |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:32:01 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: and don't be like that one guy who has 10 peqs and zero nvgs lol I mean I could use two more peq-2's and another peq-15, plus I want to get my hands on a MAWL for non-clone reasons |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:40:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Wait! Who the hell has 10 peq's but no nvg's??? I mean I could use two more peq-2's and another peq-15, plus I want to get my hands on a MAWL for non-clone reasons I always give him shit about it but he doesn't frequent this thread much I don't think. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 8:41:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. Getting a pretty clapped out 14 for 1500 lol. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:01:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Getting a pretty clapped out 14 for 1500 lol. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:27:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Some stolen straight from the fleet quality lol
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:32:41 PM EST
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:53:07 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/receiver_upper_IMG_1906_JPG-2119441.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/receiver_upper_IMG_1903_JPG-2119443.JPG cuz, some asked me. CD Sweet. Fn's raised Anchor Harvey forgings were always my favorites.  
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Posted: 10/5/2021 9:16:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By js1977: Just needs a touch of peq-2 and it'd be perfect Got my newest NSW upper in the mail today. This one (top one) will replace my diemaco anchor harvey upper that is on my mk18 mod1. Despite so,e external blemishes, they are surprisingly clean of excessive ware on the inside. I know uppers don't really ware down that fast, but it still surprised me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/DA03031A-E800-4B24-B5F8-E9BBA8C13B1E_jpe-2117835.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/471387/4A1B2E2E-8EF2-4ED2-966D-37D1F8B1CE2D_jpe-2117837.JPG The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 9:27:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: and don't be like that one guy who has 10 peqs and zero nvgs lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. and don't be like that one guy who has 10 peqs and zero nvgs lol Btw, nice addition to your avatar. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 2:22:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: I definitely don't see that ever being an issue. I'm still stuck on 0-0. I get more use out of visible lasers at the moment. That's lwhy I'm not ashamed to rock the peq5. I could see myself justifying a peq15/atpial c because it also has a visible laser. Idk, that's just my thoughts on it right now. Btw, nice addition to your avatar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By brodband8: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. and don't be like that one guy who has 10 peqs and zero nvgs lol Btw, nice addition to your avatar. In daylight, you can’t even see a PEQ-15 or ATPIAL-C’s vis laser past much more than 15 feet. (Seriously they are weak sauce). NV is the only reason to get into either of those. The higher powered LA-5B/C’s have a higher output vis laser as well though in addition to their higher output I.R. pointers/illuminators. At least I remember the C model does. Cannot remember for sure on the B, but broadband will confirm. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 2:25:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Getting a pretty clapped out 14 for 1500 lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: The real answer here my friend, and I hope you actually truly consider. Is to part out a couple of clones (for max profit), and to get into NV so you can no longer use no use for a functioning IR pointer/illuminatior as an excuse. I mean this quite seriously, a well used gen 3 PVS-14 can be had for ~1500. And 2k-2500 all day. Getting a pretty clapped out 14 for 1500 lol. Got into my first (OMNI 5 i IIRC?) for 1200. End of 1999 produced, gen 3 GP tube. It worked well. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 7:36:54 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: In daylight, you can’t even see a PEQ-15 or ATPIAL-C’s vis laser past much more than 15 feet. (Seriously they are weak sauce). NV is the only reason to get into either of those. The higher powered LA-5B/C’s have a higher output vis laser as well though in addition to their higher output I.R. pointers/illuminators. At least I remember the C model does. Cannot remember for sure on the B, but broadband will confirm. LA5B,C,D,E all have two levels of vis laser. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 7:37:18 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: I definitely don't see that ever being an issue. I'm still stuck on 0-0. I get more use out of visible lasers at the moment. That's lwhy I'm not ashamed to rock the peq5. I could see myself justifying a peq15/atpial c because it also has a visible laser. Idk, that's just my thoughts on it right now. Btw, nice addition to your avatar. lmao |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:23:36 AM EST
[#48]
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: In daylight, you can't even see a PEQ-15 or ATPIAL-C's vis laser past much more than 15 feet. (Seriously they are weak sauce). NV is the only reason to get into either of those. The higher powered LA-5B/C's have a higher output vis laser as well though in addition to their higher output I.R. pointers/illuminators. At least I remember the C model does. Cannot remember for sure on the B, but broadband will confirm. i currently don't have any situations where NV would be beneficial for me. It'd just be a novelty or an expensive toy, or strictly for cloning. The added bulk and gear needed to go IR out weighs any benefits in my case. Now thermal, is something I could get into. (Is passive shooting when you shoot through the optic, and active shooting when you use a laser device?) |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:26:24 AM EST
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:33:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Ya, I agree visible lasers don't do so hot in the daytime, but to be fair, neither does IR (lol). I don't use visible lasers for daylight anyhow, I use the optic for primarily for daytime shooting. The visible lasers function best indoors/lowlight situations and in close quarters. If somethin goes bump in the night, a light laser combo is great to have for active aiming. I really like my eod clone with the m6x for those situations. i currently don't have any situations where NV would be beneficial for me. It'd just be a novelty or an expensive toy, or strictly for cloning. The added bulk and gear needed to go IR out weighs any benefits in my case. Now thermal, is something I could get into. (Is passive shooting when you shoot through the optic, and active shooting when you use a laser device?) Clone life doesn't care about your finances or the weight of a product |
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