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If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap View Quote It's so hard to take you seriously with that avatar lmao. But it is better than the ass crack avatar. Tope! Has your backwards CQD front fallen off yet or wear a hole through your RIS II? Mine's still good. |
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Originally Posted By Tmender03:
When were you there? I saw the Chech's last year. Only one Elcan the whole month I was there (before Kuwait), and it was black and looked like the civilian model. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
I like that painted USP. Looks like a training conversion kit. I forgot to post the description from DVIDS, but it is US/Polish joint training at Baumholder. I'm going to have to paint one of mine now. I saw a European SOF group at Bagram with painted USPs and G36s. Wonder if II was the Poles. When were you there? I saw the Chech's last year. Only one Elcan the whole month I was there (before Kuwait), and it was black and looked like the civilian model. Might have been Czech dudes. It was on my way back to HI, so March 2012. Bagram was a cool place to see lots of different weapons. |
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Originally Posted By TNW:
Well... Time to fun the Range Rover... The two on the left are for sale... Shoot me offers via PM if interested. Like I said you guys get first dibs... Holding onto MK18/CQBR stuff for now... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/fd66fc128d61b32e3e08e467904a8267_zpsdiuroudp.jpg Probably missing some stuff here... Noveske Stripped Lower DD LPK Geissele SSA DD QD Endplate Magpul MOE Grip Colt Buffer Tube H Buffer Magpul CTR DD MK18 Stripped Upper DD Contract Overrun 10.3 Barrel w/ Mil-Spec Gas Port AAC 51t FH AAC M4-2000 Suppressor Geissele Mk4 9.5 Rail Surefire M620 Ultra Tango Down Short QD VFG Troy M4 Irons Eotech EXPS3-0 Colt 6721 Lower SOPMOD Stock MIAD Grip DD QD Endplate DD MK18 URG Matech Rear BUIS KAC Front BUIS Insight M3X Light TNVC ATPIAL-C Insight Dual Switch Tango Down Short QD VFG Eotech 553 AAC 51T FH Colt 6721 Lower SOPMOD Stock A2 Grip DD QD Endplate LMT 10.5 URG LMT Rear BUIS KAC RAS Tango Down VFG Aimpoint Pro Wilcox M68 Aimpoint Mount AAC 51T FH Noveske Stripped Lower DD LPK Geissele SSA DD QD Endplate Magpul K2 Grip Magpul STR Colt Buffer Tube H Buffer BCM 14.5 Upper, Comp Pinned/Welded Larue 12.5 Rail Magpul Handstop MBUS Pro Eotech 512 Noveske 16” Infantry Rifle (Full Factory) Geissele SD-E Custom Buffer/Buffer Tube Magpul PRS Stock Magpul MOE+ Grip Magpul Trigger Guard Nikon 4-12x40 GG&G Bipod Magpul Handstop View Quote Shit, how am I supposed to not want almost everything? Where the fk is the docter? |
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Originally Posted By TNW:
^not back in town yet, but his is a better pic of it... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/9f9775a7eccc382f8f2ef4e61f202e3e_zps4p5zeb8b.jpg Anyone, feel free to make offers on the left two rifles... View Quote I meant in the sales ad. |
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Originally Posted By TNW:
^not back in town yet, but his is a better pic of it... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/9f9775a7eccc382f8f2ef4e61f202e3e_zps4p5zeb8b.jpg Anyone, feel free to make offers on the left two rifles... View Quote FIFY - now you have one... Block 1 LR by Andrew McGaha, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By BamaTim:
Buying a Range Rover or fixing one up... If you aren't talking about the cars oops. I spend a bunch of time on discoweb so that is my excuse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BamaTim:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Well... Time to fun the Range Rover... The two on the left are for sale... Buying a Range Rover or fixing one up... If you aren't talking about the cars oops. I spend a bunch of time on discoweb so that is my excuse. 2012 Range Rover Sport as it looks... The little BMW doesn't do so well on range roads... |
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Originally Posted By acmcgaha:
FIFY - now you have one... <a href="https://flic.kr/p/uPGxUe" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/479/18917776609_64fde54f90_z.jpg</a>Block 1 LR by Andrew McGaha, on Flickr View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By acmcgaha:
Originally Posted By TNW:
^not back in town yet, but his is a better pic of it... http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p390/Thenightwatchman88watchman88/9f9775a7eccc382f8f2ef4e61f202e3e_zps4p5zeb8b.jpg Anyone, feel free to make offers on the left two rifles... FIFY - now you have one... <a href="https://flic.kr/p/uPGxUe" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/479/18917776609_64fde54f90_z.jpg</a>Block 1 LR by Andrew McGaha, on Flickr Problem solved! |
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Originally Posted By TNW:
2012 Range Rover Sport as it looks... The little BMW doesn't do so well on range roads... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TNW:
Originally Posted By BamaTim:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Well... Time to fun the Range Rover... The two on the left are for sale... Buying a Range Rover or fixing one up... If you aren't talking about the cars oops. I spend a bunch of time on discoweb so that is my excuse. 2012 Range Rover Sport as it looks... The little BMW doesn't do so well on range roads... Better be a D90 if you want one that holds value |
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Originally Posted By acmcgaha:
I'm not trying to start a GP discussion, but if I had known that the westernsport bbl's were Crane spec, I would have bought one for sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By acmcgaha:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap I'm not trying to start a GP discussion, but if I had known that the westernsport bbl's were Crane spec, I would have bought one for sure. Yeah I need one like ASAP. Money ready. |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
I don't think anybody honestly believes that Surefire lights "aren't correct". If a part is in the military supply chain and has been ordered, then I'm sure someone somewhere has slapped it on a 10.3" upper. There's nothing "incorrect" about it. Even if some part doesn't have a NSN #, it's surely possible that someone somewhere acquired it through other means and slapped it on a 10.3" upper. But some people really like staying as true to the SOPMOD kit as they can and cloning a rifle that way. Good for them, it's their rifle. Some people don't give a shit about the SOPMOD kit and like cloning different configurations they've seen "in the wild" in pictures. Good for them, their rifle. Some people get hung up on what direction to install their sling mount LOL. As absurd as that is — good for them, it's their rifle. We've seen plenty of non Block II shit hanging on mil rifles (Surefire lights, Aimpoints, PEQ-15s, random rails, etc…) But, if someone really wants to clone a rifle and stick to only SOPMOD accessories, what's the harm? (Other than their wallet) Anyway, this whole "correct/incorrect" discussion seems really pointless. We know what's in SOPMOD, we have the PowerPoints. But SOPMOD is just one of many ways to acquire accessories, and overall probably represents a small percentage. That said, there's still some things that remain HIGHLY unlikely to ever appear on a .mil rifle, like a cerakoted billet lower for example. So, there is still some reasonable, common sense guidelines to keep a thread like this somewhat focused. As for rear sling plates, the CQD plate is "spec" for the Mk 18 lower, as installed by CRANE. For CQB uppers that get stuck on issue M4A1s, I don't think there's really a "spec" sling plate. Seems to be a huge range of them and even none at all seems to be most common. As far as I can tell there's no standard for that, nor has their ever been. These uppers are getting put on M4 and M16 lowers from all over every branch of the US military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
I don't think anybody honestly believes that Surefire lights "aren't correct". If a part is in the military supply chain and has been ordered, then I'm sure someone somewhere has slapped it on a 10.3" upper. There's nothing "incorrect" about it. Even if some part doesn't have a NSN #, it's surely possible that someone somewhere acquired it through other means and slapped it on a 10.3" upper. But some people really like staying as true to the SOPMOD kit as they can and cloning a rifle that way. Good for them, it's their rifle. Some people don't give a shit about the SOPMOD kit and like cloning different configurations they've seen "in the wild" in pictures. Good for them, their rifle. Some people get hung up on what direction to install their sling mount LOL. As absurd as that is — good for them, it's their rifle. We've seen plenty of non Block II shit hanging on mil rifles (Surefire lights, Aimpoints, PEQ-15s, random rails, etc…) But, if someone really wants to clone a rifle and stick to only SOPMOD accessories, what's the harm? (Other than their wallet) Anyway, this whole "correct/incorrect" discussion seems really pointless. We know what's in SOPMOD, we have the PowerPoints. But SOPMOD is just one of many ways to acquire accessories, and overall probably represents a small percentage. That said, there's still some things that remain HIGHLY unlikely to ever appear on a .mil rifle, like a cerakoted billet lower for example. So, there is still some reasonable, common sense guidelines to keep a thread like this somewhat focused. As for rear sling plates, the CQD plate is "spec" for the Mk 18 lower, as installed by CRANE. For CQB uppers that get stuck on issue M4A1s, I don't think there's really a "spec" sling plate. Seems to be a huge range of them and even none at all seems to be most common. As far as I can tell there's no standard for that, nor has their ever been. These uppers are getting put on M4 and M16 lowers from all over every branch of the US military. I had my threads mixed up. This is what Milspec556 & I were referring to: Originally Posted By drb022:
Also the fact that half of you have SureFire (incorrect) weapon lights and no ATPIAL. I just don't see how it's a clone if all you've got is an optic and a RIS from the parts list. Idk, I must think differently. Originally Posted By drb022:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Surefire weaponlight? Must be a fluke. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/271/18841360330_7eea4af358_b.jpg Wait a minute...... https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8845/18565897670_d176c50085_b.jpg Now I guess your surefire theory is blown the fuck open by this point. Stop spreading misinformation just because you're butthurt. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/456/18841639198_d782b4598f_o.jpg Again, I just see it differently. Just because you see guys using them because they paid for them out of pocket doesn't mean it's part of the Block II parts list. They're approved for use and all and granted they're fine lights but "clone correct" as I see it means cloning what is issued (WMX200 or M3X). Related case in point; I still had two members (one I think got Postal0311's original clone thread locked & that sometimes the quickest to seriously advise you what is correct & what is not based off what they read on Wikipedia & research books) tell me that I didn't carry a non-personally purchased TA31ECOS-G / RMR because it was not on the SOPMOD list & they hadn't seen them in a photo from the Internet. However, I concur with you, Tiny, with regard to some folks mentioning of correct/incorrectness being pretty much poiintless to most. These clone threads have been active long enough for most not even "in the know" to be able to discern the parameters of what type of parts / accessories are being or have been fielded. That is all I'm referring to. I'm not trying to rehash the habitual arguments. |
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Where are you guys getting spare bulbs for the Insight M3X? I see M3Xs for cheap on eBay but can't find bulbs. I have a M3, are the bulbs the same? So tempted to buy a couple M3Xs and more M3s, but not if bulbs are unobtanium.
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Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
This is in the acquisition pipeline…. http://i60.tinypic.com/2m65zrq.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By pbjunkiee:
scored a flare launcher and mount :) http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/pbjunkiee/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150623_18_31_21_Pro_zps7emmv15v.jpg ranger band on the elcan. Took a little but it stays off and out of the way well. http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/pbjunkiee/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20150623_18_30_57_Pro_zpsyabf8vdx.jpg You fucker. I didn't see this til now. I've wanted a mk 31 for years. This is in the acquisition pipeline…. http://i60.tinypic.com/2m65zrq.jpg Impressive. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
It's been established that there's no such thing as "backwards" lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Timbo:
Mine is facing backwards. Since I carry it for a living, I need all the hand space I can comfortably get. Makes things mo betta. It's been established that there's no such thing as "backwards" lol. Just like KAC front sights. |
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Are the colt 10.3 inch factory barrels the correct gas port size? Is anyone running one with a dd mk12 gas block? Are the set screws holding since there are no dimples on the barrel?
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Likewise. Just add $25 to whatever brodband has offered you, and you have a deal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap Likewise. Just add $25 to whatever brodband has offered you, and you have a deal. Ha that's fucked up. |
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Ha that's fucked up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap Likewise. Just add $25 to whatever brodband has offered you, and you have a deal. Ha that's fucked up. I am dead serious. I need one. Which means I'm ready to pay. Tis gonna be hard to one up me when I'm in the zone. |
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Originally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Is that sling plate clone approved? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TurbineGuy:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Here's two Carl G's conducting night fire training. Warheads are on the left of the picture. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/Carl_Gustav_night_fire.jpg Minigun firing at Dusk. I'm up in top giving instructions to the Major. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/zeus_rz.jpg And to keep this 10.3" http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_0616_rz.jpg CD Is that sling plate clone approved? It is now. |
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Are the colt 10.3 inch factory barrels the correct gas port size? Is anyone running one with a dd mk12 gas block? Are the set screws holding since there are no dimples on the barrel? View Quote Shouldn't be any reason why they wouldn't....I have several rifles with set screw blocks and have had zero problems....if you want, its really easy to dimple the barrel a little. |
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
I am dead serious. I need one. Which means I'm ready to pay. Tis gonna be hard to one up me when I'm in the zone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap Likewise. Just add $25 to whatever brodband has offered you, and you have a deal. Ha that's fucked up. I am dead serious. I need one. Which means I'm ready to pay. Tis gonna be hard to one up me when I'm in the zone. I wanted/needed an FSP Mk18 RIS II...know what I then paid for one? Come at me, bro. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I wanted/needed an FSP Mk18 RIS II...know what I then paid for one? Come at me, bro. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
If anyone wants to part with their new westernsport DD barrel/gas block. PLEASE PM ME. need one asap Likewise. Just add $25 to whatever brodband has offered you, and you have a deal. Ha that's fucked up. I am dead serious. I need one. Which means I'm ready to pay. Tis gonna be hard to one up me when I'm in the zone. I wanted/needed an FSP Mk18 RIS II...know what I then paid for one? Come at me, bro. Lol, yeah Ryan probably has more fuck off money than any of us will ever make in our whole life time.... |
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In fairness, AR15USA made my entire collection look like a bitch in less than a month.
And a local buddy of mine, Geno, also makes my collection look like a two dollar whore. |
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I wish I had fuck-off money.
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
In fairness, AR15USA made my entire collection look like a bitch in less than a month. And a local buddy of mine, Geno, also makes my collection look like a two dollar whore. View Quote Yeah, well in fairness, everytime you snap pictures of a build or new can, I go into the bathroom to rub one out |
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In other news, if anyone has a CQD rear sling plate and some HK hooks they are willing to part with, hit me up
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DBM, we all do.
JP, that's perfectly natural. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. |
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
That's the kind of money that you can just tell anyone and everyone to fuck off, right? Ah yes... sweet, sweet telling people to fuck off. That's the ticket. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
DBM, we all do. JP, that's perfectly natural. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's the kind of money that you can just tell anyone and everyone to fuck off, right? Ah yes... sweet, sweet telling people to fuck off. That's the ticket. No...no... That's fuck you money you seek. I would; however, prefer pajama money. |
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
That's the kind of money that you can just tell anyone and everyone to fuck off, right? Ah yes... sweet, sweet telling people to fuck off. That's the ticket. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
DBM, we all do. JP, that's perfectly natural. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's the kind of money that you can just tell anyone and everyone to fuck off, right? Ah yes... sweet, sweet telling people to fuck off. That's the ticket. I honestly don't know exactly what "fuck off" money entails. I'd like to though. Recently acquired a new biz that's relaunching soon. Hopefully I soon will. If that's the case, I'll get all Oprah up in here...CQBRs for everyone! |
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I honestly don't know exactly what "fuck off" money entails. I'd like to though. Recently acquired a new biz that's relaunching soon. Hopefully I soon will. If that's the case, I'll get all Oprah up in here...CQBRs for everyone! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
DBM, we all do. JP, that's perfectly natural. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's the kind of money that you can just tell anyone and everyone to fuck off, right? Ah yes... sweet, sweet telling people to fuck off. That's the ticket. I honestly don't know exactly what "fuck off" money entails. I'd like to though. Recently acquired a new biz that's relaunching soon. Hopefully I soon will. If that's the case, I'll get all Oprah up in here...CQBRs for everyone! Now that is an idea I can really get behind... |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Polish GROM uses M4s and Polish Army uses the Bertyel (sp?) 5.56mm AK variant made by Radom. I've seen to different Polish 9mm pistols that were home grown (wz88 and WIST-94). They don't use USPs Czechs are still carrying vz58 rifles and CZ P01 pistols. I would think that they were German troops as those are their standard issue (P8/G36) Polish AK http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/P1190028_Tantal_556mm.JPG pistol http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/P1190035_wz88_pistol.JPG CD View Quote Polish AK is called the Beryl. Technically that's a mini beryl....same same just shorter barrel. |
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Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Polish AK is called the Beryl. http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s278/armed_ferret/Afghanistan%202009/miniberyl.jpg Technically that's a mini beryl....same same just shorter barrel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Polish GROM uses M4s and Polish Army uses the Bertyel (sp?) 5.56mm AK variant made by Radom. I've seen to different Polish 9mm pistols that were home grown (wz88 and WIST-94). They don't use USPs Czechs are still carrying vz58 rifles and CZ P01 pistols. I would think that they were German troops as those are their standard issue (P8/G36) Polish AK http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/P1190028_Tantal_556mm.JPG pistol http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/P1190035_wz88_pistol.JPG CD Polish AK is called the Beryl. http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s278/armed_ferret/Afghanistan%202009/miniberyl.jpg Technically that's a mini beryl....same same just shorter barrel. I just snagged 3 Beryl mags last night |
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Originally Posted By Petes1552:
DSG has the CQD mounts & HK hooks in-stock and they have 10% off sitewide and free shipping over $75. Code: DSG10POFF View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Petes1552:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
In other news, if anyone has a CQD rear sling plate and some HK hooks they are willing to part with, hit me up DSG has the CQD mounts & HK hooks in-stock and they have 10% off sitewide and free shipping over $75. Code: DSG10POFF Sweet! Thanks buddy! |
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How do you guys like running and Acog on the MK18?
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Originally Posted By jparish62:
Sweet! Thanks buddy! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jparish62:
Originally Posted By Petes1552:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
In other news, if anyone has a CQD rear sling plate and some HK hooks they are willing to part with, hit me up DSG has the CQD mounts & HK hooks in-stock and they have 10% off sitewide and free shipping over $75. Code: DSG10POFF Sweet! Thanks buddy! 2nded! Needed a HK Hook |
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Originally Posted By warpig8654:
I had my threads mixed up. This is what Milspec556 & I were referring to: Related case in point; I still had two members (one I think got Postal0311's original clone thread locked & that sometimes the quickest to seriously advise you what is correct & what is not based off what they read on Wikipedia & research books) tell me that I didn't carry a non-personally purchased TA31ECOS-G / RMR because it was not on the SOPMOD list & they hadn't seen them in a photo from the Internet. However, I concur with you, Tiny, with regard to some folks mentioning of correct/incorrectness being pretty much poiintless to most. These clone threads have been active long enough for most not even "in the know" to be able to discern the parameters of what type of parts / accessories are being or have been fielded. That is all I'm referring to. I'm not trying to rehash the habitual arguments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
I don't think anybody honestly believes that Surefire lights "aren't correct". If a part is in the military supply chain and has been ordered, then I'm sure someone somewhere has slapped it on a 10.3" upper. There's nothing "incorrect" about it. Even if some part doesn't have a NSN #, it's surely possible that someone somewhere acquired it through other means and slapped it on a 10.3" upper. But some people really like staying as true to the SOPMOD kit as they can and cloning a rifle that way. Good for them, it's their rifle. Some people don't give a shit about the SOPMOD kit and like cloning different configurations they've seen "in the wild" in pictures. Good for them, their rifle. Some people get hung up on what direction to install their sling mount LOL. As absurd as that is — good for them, it's their rifle. We've seen plenty of non Block II shit hanging on mil rifles (Surefire lights, Aimpoints, PEQ-15s, random rails, etc…) But, if someone really wants to clone a rifle and stick to only SOPMOD accessories, what's the harm? (Other than their wallet) Anyway, this whole "correct/incorrect" discussion seems really pointless. We know what's in SOPMOD, we have the PowerPoints. But SOPMOD is just one of many ways to acquire accessories, and overall probably represents a small percentage. That said, there's still some things that remain HIGHLY unlikely to ever appear on a .mil rifle, like a cerakoted billet lower for example. So, there is still some reasonable, common sense guidelines to keep a thread like this somewhat focused. As for rear sling plates, the CQD plate is "spec" for the Mk 18 lower, as installed by CRANE. For CQB uppers that get stuck on issue M4A1s, I don't think there's really a "spec" sling plate. Seems to be a huge range of them and even none at all seems to be most common. As far as I can tell there's no standard for that, nor has their ever been. These uppers are getting put on M4 and M16 lowers from all over every branch of the US military. I had my threads mixed up. This is what Milspec556 & I were referring to: Originally Posted By drb022:
Also the fact that half of you have SureFire (incorrect) weapon lights and no ATPIAL. I just don't see how it's a clone if all you've got is an optic and a RIS from the parts list. Idk, I must think differently. Originally Posted By drb022:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Surefire weaponlight? Must be a fluke. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/271/18841360330_7eea4af358_b.jpg Wait a minute...... https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8845/18565897670_d176c50085_b.jpg Now I guess your surefire theory is blown the fuck open by this point. Stop spreading misinformation just because you're butthurt. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/456/18841639198_d782b4598f_o.jpg Again, I just see it differently. Just because you see guys using them because they paid for them out of pocket doesn't mean it's part of the Block II parts list. They're approved for use and all and granted they're fine lights but "clone correct" as I see it means cloning what is issued (WMX200 or M3X). Related case in point; I still had two members (one I think got Postal0311's original clone thread locked & that sometimes the quickest to seriously advise you what is correct & what is not based off what they read on Wikipedia & research books) tell me that I didn't carry a non-personally purchased TA31ECOS-G / RMR because it was not on the SOPMOD list & they hadn't seen them in a photo from the Internet. However, I concur with you, Tiny, with regard to some folks mentioning of correct/incorrectness being pretty much poiintless to most. These clone threads have been active long enough for most not even "in the know" to be able to discern the parameters of what type of parts / accessories are being or have been fielded. That is all I'm referring to. I'm not trying to rehash the habitual arguments. I keep up with this and the BII threads just to make sure my issue weapons are clone correct. |
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Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
I have the non clone correct 3x on mine and love it. The only item I would lose sleep over swapping for the clone correct optic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By Brad192:
How do you guys like running and Acog on the MK18? I have the non clone correct 3x on mine and love it. The only item I would lose sleep over swapping for the clone correct optic. Yeah i am interested in getting a TA31F and wondering how it would be, never used one before besides looking through them at stores. |
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Originally Posted By jparish62:
<a href="http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/jparish62/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084823043_zpsqlpi5tvm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/jparish62/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084823043_zpsqlpi5tvm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/jparish62/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084842914_zps2q1qt5rh.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/jparish62/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084842914_zps2q1qt5rh.jpg</a> View Quote Nice well-equipped uppers! |
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Nice well-equipped uppers! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZ_SBR:
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<a href="http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/jparish62/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084823043_zpsqlpi5tvm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/jparish62/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084823043_zpsqlpi5tvm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/jparish62/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084842914_zps2q1qt5rh.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/jparish62/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150624_084842914_zps2q1qt5rh.jpg</a> Nice well-equipped uppers! Thanks! Waiting on another kac sight and hopefully a few cans in the future |
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