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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2019 2:06:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Soupmod05]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 100roundclipazine: Are you using a reaction rod or some form of bev block? I have removed tons of rocksett-ed muzzle devices with just a 12 inch socket wrench. Rocksett is not even as strong as blue loctite Pic for new page! 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2019 4:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soupmod05:
putting the muzzle device in boiling water may help. https://i.imgur.com/EpFOv8e.jpg PS I was totally lost last yr and these guys were helping me. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2019 4:04:43 PM EDT
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Quick question, does anyone have any negative opinions on putting a Law Folder on the 10.3 URGI? I dont want to screw up reliabalitly but it would help me in transportation and allow me to add a VFG. Been strongly considering.
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By splbass17:
Quick question, does anyone have any negative opinions on putting a Law Folder on the 10.3 URGI? I dont want to screw up reliabalitly but it would help me in transportation and allow me to add a VFG. Been strongly considering. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:57:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: 10.3 URGI is not a clone or issued, so who cares what you put on it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 12:12:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By splbass17:
Quick question, does anyone have any negative opinions on putting a Law Folder on the 10.3 URGI? I dont want to screw up reliabalitly but it would help me in transportation and allow me to add a VFG. Been strongly considering. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2019 12:22:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
dont know how thats relevant since he asked about reliability not clone correctness. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire:
Originally Posted By JLAudio: 10.3 URGI is not a clone or issued, so who cares what you put on it. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2019 12:24:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: If you're thinking a folder will get you above 26" OAL to add a VFG on a pistol, no such luck. The current ATF doctrine is to measure a folding pistol/"firearm" in the folded position. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 4:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Soupmod05: Yes, i am using both. I will give it another try when i get of work. Also saw somewhere putting the muzzle device in boiling water may help. Pic for new page! https://i.imgur.com/EpFOv8e.jpg |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:18:54 PM EDT
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I know its not "clone correct" or confirmed as being issued to any units, but the URGI 10.3 "bendy rail" is slicker, lighter, and with MLOK modularity and while the MK18 is an iconic look I do enjoy the URGI profile as well. I'm happy I have one. That being said, any word on why it is listed as "discontinued" on Brownells? This could just be an SKU thing because the 14.5 URGI is also listed as Discontinued with a new (I think) "USASOC 14.5 URGI" item listed for sale (its the exact same config as what was previously sold on Brownells as the 14.5 URGI just without the word USASOC next to it). More out of curiosity than concern here.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:43:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2019 4:26:04 PM EDT
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Can someone do a quick pic dump of the USMC URG-I trial guns? I know they are in this thread, but I don't want to look through 135 pages...
Any help is much appreciated, thanks. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2019 6:08:01 PM EDT
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Here is my contribution
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USA
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Posted: 10/11/2019 8:21:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: the_life_and_times]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By splbass17:
Darn and thank you so much for the reminder...I forgot about that. It was half for transpo and other half for the VFG, I think I may say scew it then. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By splbass17:
Originally Posted By krdt: If you're thinking a folder will get you above 26" OAL to add a VFG on a pistol, no such luck. The current ATF doctrine is to measure a folding pistol/"firearm" in the folded position. ETA: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice. |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2019 9:05:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By methical20:
Can someone do a quick pic dump of the USMC URG-I trial guns? I know they are in this thread, but I don't want to look through 135 pages... Any help is much appreciated, thanks. Edit: Forgot to post the link. It's around page 15. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=15#i7673311 |
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USA
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Posted: 10/12/2019 4:15:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By the_life_and_times: Depending on how deep of pockets / good of lawyer friends you have, I suspect that the ATFs doctrine would not hold up in court—with the law folder specifically—given that it is not design/intended to function when folded. Probably not worth it and better just to do and 11.5 pistol to not deal with the headache and run an AFG. Again though, if you are feeling spicy, technically many ‘vertical’ fore grips (I.e. BCM gunfighter vertical grips) are actually angled something other than 90 degrees. So you might be able to make the case that it is not a “vertical” grip... if you and up doing it and getting prosecuted I’ll toss you a 50 for your legal defense fund, just PM me. ETA: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice. |
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Posted: 10/12/2019 4:39:41 AM EDT
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I read that an hour ago. Brings into question then about every semi auto pistol just about.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/12/2019 9:12:43 AM EDT
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I’m sorry if I missed this in an earlier post but who is making the BCG for these receivers? I have a brand new Colt BCG that looks to have better staking and I am thinking of just using the Colt BCG and selling off the one that came with it. I want this upper to be bullet proof. Any thoughts?
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HI, USA
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Posted: 10/12/2019 11:50:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rxcoug98:
I’m sorry if I missed this in an earlier post but who is making the BCG for these receivers? I have a brand new Colt BCG that looks to have better staking and I am thinking of just using the Colt BCG and selling off the one that came with it. I want this upper to be bullet proof. Any thoughts? Just shoot it till it starts acting up. Keep the other one as a spare or use it on another build. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/12/2019 9:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
I read that an hour ago. Brings into question then about every semi auto pistol just about. CD Vaguely exciting, but of course the potential downside is congress actually changes the NFA\GCA for the worse because people just start legally end-running both... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/13/2019 10:00:18 PM EDT
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My 10.3 upper came with an H3 buffer and spring. What kind of reliability are people having running weaker brass cased ammo unsupressed with that combo? I’m thinking an H2 might be a better choice.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2019 9:50:34 PM EDT
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Need some help, does this look authentic?
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Posted: 10/15/2019 10:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
Need some help, does this look authentic? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/fd3dce5b85080c5069cb168bc121537c.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/b40770d36ab0ef08d94f4fb0730e652f.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/0afc1379af73b84c9fb3d9a833b0df04.jpg Mine has the same left side but a stamped & subdued: Geissele Automatics North Wales, PA on the right side. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2019 11:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
Need some help, does this look authentic? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/fd3dce5b85080c5069cb168bc121537c.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/b40770d36ab0ef08d94f4fb0730e652f.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/0afc1379af73b84c9fb3d9a833b0df04.jpg |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:10:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By the_life_and_times:
I’m trying to wrap my head around it. Need to go read the law and the ruling, but it seems like the ruling might have said the receiver needs to house both the bolt and the trigger mechanism. So yea, seems like most handguns are encompassed within all this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By the_life_and_times:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
I read that an hour ago. Brings into question then about every semi auto pistol just about. In reference to 80% lowers, this case in LA appears to explain why the ATF says that you cannot borrow tools or use someone else's shop or jig to finish an 80% lower, or that person would be considered a "manufacturer" for allowing you to use their equipment. Back on topic: it's great to see the photos of these uppers in service. Very interesting to see the gas block variations out there. It sounded like it was a done deal that they were going to be using the Geissele gas block, but it doesn't seem to be that straightforward. I'm not sure if I've seen a definitive answer as to whether any of these kits are coming with the Geissele block when they are delivered to USASOC, or if they all come with the DD (non-Mk12) block. |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 12:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arzombie:
Need some help, does this look authentic? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/fd3dce5b85080c5069cb168bc121537c.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/b40770d36ab0ef08d94f4fb0730e652f.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191016/0afc1379af73b84c9fb3d9a833b0df04.jpg |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:02:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TPNES]
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Maybe Combat Diver could shed some light on if Geissele gas blocks vs DD gas blocks are being used (he may already have, but I was late to the URGI game when I got mine in September and mated it to an LMT lower, and havn't had the patience to read all 140 pages of this thread). Somewhere around reading about bendy rail gate I decided to stop worrying and just order the damn thing. I went with the 10.3'' Complete Near Clone, which has the G gas block and a non-advertised mil-spec BCG and upper receiver. I also got a Colt cage coded upper and Colt BCG, but decided not to use them, going to put a Daniel Defense rail/barrel on those and have a Mk18 as well.
I am also wondering out of curiosity if any teams are receiving the 10.3'' URGI to replace their Mk18's even though it doesn't currently have an NSN. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:27:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TPNES:
Maybe Combat Diver could shed some light on if Geissele gas blocks vs DD gas blocks are being used (he may already have, but I was late to the URGI game when I got mine in September and mated it to an LMT lower, and havn't had the patience to read all 140 pages of this thread). Somewhere around reading about bendy rail gate I decided to stop worrying and just order the damn thing. I went with the 10.3'' Complete Near Clone, which has the G gas block and a non-advertised mil-spec BCG and upper receiver. I also got a Colt cage coded upper and Colt BCG, but decided not to use them, going to put a Daniel Defense rail/barrel on those and have a Mk18 as well. I am also wondering out of curiosity if any teams are receiving the 10.3'' URGI to replace their Mk18's even though it doesn't currently have an NSN. There are pictures on the previous page. Looks like DD Lo-Pro blocks. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2019 8:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WEK207: @TPNES There are pictures on the previous page. Looks like DD Lo-Pro blocks. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2019 8:12:12 PM EDT
[#30]
The dd mk12 gb were causing issues with fitment so it looks like they went with the dd lp gb
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Posted: 10/16/2019 9:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TPNES:
Thanks bud! I did see those, but have also read people saying there was some issue with the DD lo-pro so now there will be Geissele blocks instead? So people that originally went with G gas blocks will now end up as "clone correct" (this doesn't matter to me since my build has several non-clone parts, but I am interested out of curiosity what ends up happening with the whole URGI rumor mill). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TPNES:
Originally Posted By WEK207: @TPNES There are pictures on the previous page. Looks like DD Lo-Pro blocks. The 10.3" URG-I is not being issued and it looks like it won't be. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 7:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: The DD pinned low profile gas block is clone correct. Nobody has one like that as far as I know. All the commercial ones sold were DD Mk12 or Geissele. The 10.3" URG-I is not being issued and it looks like it won't be. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 7:40:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M3iser]
[#33]
Originally Posted By rpoL98:
is this gonna be like the SF4P? in the near future, the $400 GB to be found only on the EE? Also Geissele is now using MK12's that are modified on the bottom corners that were hitting the rail, on their "clone correct" uppers. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:02:30 PM EDT
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$359 - 14.5 mid length gov barrels on DDs website
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Posted: 10/17/2019 8:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller:
$359 - 14.5 mid length gov barrels on DDs website DD Gov Barrel assy with Gas Block 07-077-07308 |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:08:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: red6actual]
[#36]
That was quick...
What length picatinny sections come with kit and who makes them? |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:31:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller:
That was quick... What length picatinny sections come with kit and who makes them? CD posted some pics on pg 131. Looks like 7 slot rail sections, and probably from Geissele. Edit: Link to post: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=131#i7954594 |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:37:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M3iser]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
I asked, but no one answered. CD posted some pics on pg 131. Looks like 7 slot rail sections, and probably from Geissele. Edit: Link to post: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=131#i7954594 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane:
Originally Posted By RMiller:
That was quick... What length picatinny sections come with kit and who makes them? CD posted some pics on pg 131. Looks like 7 slot rail sections, and probably from Geissele. Edit: Link to post: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=131#i7954594 M4A1 UPPER RECEIVER GROUP KIT, CONVERTS THE UPPER RECEIVER OF A M4A1 TO AN IMPROVED BARREL AND RAIL ASSEMBLY. KIT CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS: (1) 1EA, MID-LENGTH GAS SYSTEM 14.5 INCH COLD HAMMER FORGED BARREL, P/N: 07-077-07308, 1EA. (2) PIN, GAS BLOCK, URG-I, P/N: 15-028-02227, 1 EA (3) 14.5 MID-LENGTH GAS TUBE WITH PIN, P/N: 04-013-18034, 1 SET; (4) 14.5 BARREL REPLACEMENT KIT, P/N 408JXN00906, 1 KT; (5) GAS TUBE, PIN SPRING, P/N 15-028-04094, 1 EA;(6) CHARGING HANDLE (COYOTE), P/N: 05-664S,1EA. (7) M-LOK HANDGUARD COYOTE, MARK 16 13.5 INCH, P/N: 05-650S, 1EA. (8) M-LOK ALUMINUM RAIL SECTION, 7 SLOTS-BLACK, P/N: MAG582-BLK, 3EA. (9) M-LOK QD SLING MOUNT BLACK, P/N: MAG606-BLK,1EA. (10) BARREL NUT WRENCH, P/N: 02-243,1EA. H9D/SOCOM LOGISTICS HELPDESK: |
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HI, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:39:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M3iser: Hope that helps. ... |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2019 9:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: Nice. Magpul? https://www.operationparts.com/magpul-m-lok-aluminum-rail-section-7-slots/ |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 10:16:07 PM EDT
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Magpul it is then, thanks
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Posted: 10/17/2019 11:18:32 PM EDT
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I've seen them but haven't look closely at them to ID. I'll try and confirm that they are MagPuls.
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Posted: 10/18/2019 10:49:48 AM EDT
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There is a dude on facebook claiming he's in AFG and has a URG-I with DD upper/BCG/other parts
And the rail on is URG-I is a Geissele Mk13 and they use OSS suppressors 
Seems sketch to me  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/18/2019 11:06:53 AM EDT
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Contractor or agency guns can be anything. Not really a URGI as that is a specific USASOC weapon platform.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2019 6:18:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M3iser]
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The MK12 block on my URGI was resting on the rail, I ended up ordering a new DD barrel with the low profile GB for the URGI.
Decided to use the other barrel with a RIS. Any other guys ever used a midlength barrel with the RIS rail? If so which GB did you use? 
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Posted: 10/18/2019 7:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M3iser:
The MK12 block on my URGI was resting on the rail, I ended up ordering a new DD barrel with the low profile GB for the URGI. Decided to use the other barrel with a RIS. Any other guys ever used a midlength barrel with the RIS rail? If so which GB did you use? https://i.postimg.cc/HkLFSGX4/IMG-2443.jpg |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2019 8:01:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M3iser]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: The Mk12 gas block won't fit a mid length barrel with the RIS II. Any low profile gas block should fit but I would suggest sticking with the carbine length barrel. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/18/2019 9:14:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rpoL98]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
The Mk12 gas block won't fit a mid length barrel with the RIS II. Any low profile gas block should fit but I would suggest sticking with the carbine length barrel. https://www.badgerordnance.com/ar-15-10/mk-12-spr-gas-manifold-75-bbls-416-stainless-steel-black-oxide.html |
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Posted: 10/18/2019 9:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98:
my Badger Ordnance Mk12 GB fits fine inside my DD RIS II. no contact at the bottom. https://www.badgerordnance.com/ar-15-10/mk-12-spr-gas-manifold-75-bbls-416-stainless-steel-black-oxide.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
The Mk12 gas block won't fit a mid length barrel with the RIS II. Any low profile gas block should fit but I would suggest sticking with the carbine length barrel. https://www.badgerordnance.com/ar-15-10/mk-12-spr-gas-manifold-75-bbls-416-stainless-steel-black-oxide.html |
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USA
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Posted: 10/19/2019 12:29:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rpoL98]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
You have a mid length barrel under the RIS II? |
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