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Posted: 11/6/2021 7:48:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iasc300ia: A Geissele barrel I guess with the DD 14.5 mid lenth barrel shortage they had no choice. No Colt upper or BCG No DD barrel with pinned DD gas block I guess it just depends on the level of cloning you want. |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 8:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: So it's a super duty upper, do they at least come with the four prong flash hider? I guess with the DD 14.5 mid lenth barrel shortage they had no choice. No Colt upper or BCG No DD barrel with pinned DD gas block I guess it just depends on the level of cloning you want. |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 8:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: So it's a super duty upper, do they at least come with the four prong flash hider? I guess with the DD 14.5 mid lenth barrel shortage they had no choice. No Colt upper or BCG No DD barrel with pinned DD gas block I guess it just depends on the level of cloning you want. Still comes with the SF4P. As far as I know the only things still urg-i on the new uppers: MK16 SF4P Airborne Charging Handle |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 8:23:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iasc300ia: Still comes with the SF4P. As far as I know the only things still urg-i on the new uppers: MK16 SF4P Airborne Charging Handle My second URGI upper was a build vs the first run factory URGI on the right. Pic thread, my DDC CH is on my DDC geissele build until I get another.  |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 8:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: G got out of the cloning game due to the earlier fiasco. |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 11:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Can't blame them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By LsuJon: G got out of the cloning game due to the earlier fiasco. Agreed, don’t see why any company with an intent to run a profitable business would cater to cloners. |
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Posted: 11/7/2021 4:44:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: So it's a super duty upper, do they at least come with the four prong flash hider? MK16 handguard on the Super Duty doesn't have the tabs on the side, but on the top that indexes with a notch in the upper receiver. |
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Posted: 11/7/2021 3:24:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Agreed, don’t see why any company with an intent to run a profitable business would cater to cloners. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RickJames1999: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Originally Posted By LsuJon: G got out of the cloning game due to the earlier fiasco. Agreed, don’t see why any company with an intent to run a profitable business would cater to cloners. I’d have to agree with that. We cloners are a particular bunch. When companies have tried to break into it, they get nit picked non stop. They’d be better off just selling whatever contract parts they produce separately for us to build on our own. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2021 6:14:52 PM EDT
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Got my RC2 for 765 from Surefire. Put the order in just a couple weeks ago, Surefire dude said I got lucky. Will be my first can. Can't imagine waiting a year, guess I'll just have to forget about it and be surprised later.
Sold my second URGI upper for $2k on Gbroker. Does anyone actually prefer the Elcan 1-4 over the Razor 1-6? Love my Razor but that mag ring is a heavy bitch. Would prefer the quick toggle of the Elcan plus the lesser weight. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2021 6:18:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpartanNick]
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Trying pic again, didn't work last time.
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Posted: 11/8/2021 9:45:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDidn't work then either.  fixt:  |
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Posted: 11/8/2021 10:07:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: Got my RC2 for 765 from Surefire. Put the order in just a couple weeks ago, Surefire dude said I got lucky. Will be my first can. Can't imagine waiting a year, guess I'll just have to forget about it and be surprised later. Sold my second URGI upper for $2k on Gbroker. Does anyone actually prefer the Elcan 1-4 over the Razor 1-6? Love my Razor but that mag ring is a heavy bitch. Would prefer the quick toggle of the Elcan plus the lesser weight. I’ve had thoughts about going back to an Elcan on my 11.5 URGI for no other reason than how compact it is relative to the Razor |
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Posted: 11/8/2021 10:24:32 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2021 10:29:28 PM EDT
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i remember seeing a picture showing the inside dimensions of the mk16 compared to the urx4, does anyone have it or know which page it was on this thread?
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2021 11:02:55 PM EDT
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Thanks for the fix. Not sure why I can't make it work on my end.
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Posted: 11/8/2021 11:05:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: Thanks for the fix. Not sure why I can't make it work on my end. |
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Posted: 11/8/2021 11:30:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: Got my RC2 for 765 from Surefire. Put the order in just a couple weeks ago, Surefire dude said I got lucky. Will be my first can. Can't imagine waiting a year, guess I'll just have to forget about it and be surprised later. Sold my second URGI upper for $2k on Gbroker. Does anyone actually prefer the Elcan 1-4 over the Razor 1-6? Love my Razor but that mag ring is a heavy bitch. Would prefer the quick toggle of the Elcan plus the lesser weight. I prefer the Elcan. I’ve come to really dislike LPVO’s. I actually started with a Razor 1-6 on my Block II and traded it for an Elcan 1-4 which I still have. I later picked up a Razor 1-10 for my URGI, kept it for a bit and sold it. I recently picked up another Razor 1-10, kept it for a day and went right back to my T2 on the URGI. I love my Elcan though and am considering picking another one up in the future. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 12:00:53 AM EDT
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My Elcan was issued and it worked great for a combat optic. I don't spend $1k on optics so I do not own one. I have an LPVO on my URGI with an offset RDS because it is my coyote rifle too. If it was a clone or SHTF only, the Elcan is perfect.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2021 12:37:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: I prefer the Elcan. I’ve come to really dislike LPVO’s. I actually started with a Razor 1-6 on my Block II and traded it for an Elcan 1-4 which I still have. I later picked up a Razor 1-10 for my URGI, kept it for a bit and sold it. I recently picked up another Razor 1-10, kept it for a day and went right back to my T2 on the URGI. I love my Elcan though and am considering picking another one up in the future. From what I've seen the consensus is you either love the Elcan or hate it. Some say the eyebox and eye relief is great, others say it sucks. Some hate the arms mounts and external adjustments, some say no issues. I've come to appreciate durability above all things and the Elcan certainly has that reputation. How is it on 1x? Do you feel its faster than an LPVO despite the 2.5 inch-ish eye relief? For me the lackluster warranty, somewhat high price and only 4x for said price kinda holds me back. But I am still intrigued. Been thinking of just going back to Acog/RMR for my Block 1 instead and leaving Razor on the URGI. Eye relief caused me to sell my last one, but the only other magnified optic on the same level of durability is the Elcan. Maybe ATACR. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 1:06:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAre the M4S kosher on URGIs? |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 1:27:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Are the M4S kosher on URGIs? There's some pics of the CompM4s on the LT659 mount. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 2:09:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: There's some pics of the CompM4s on the LT659 mount. Dope. It'll go great on my super duty 14.5...close as I could get right now without any DD barrels What page? |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 2:18:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Dope. It'll go great on my super duty 14.5...close as I could get right now without any DD barrels What page? LOL. Somewhere. I have some saved on my phone and I'll upload them when I finish my shift. Edit: Found one of my posts. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Official-M4A1-USASOC-URG-I-and-Clone-Picture-and-Discussion-Thread/118-722381/?page=152#i8061995 |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 3:18:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: aftac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Are the M4S kosher on URGIs? They are and CompM4 and CompM4S is in the supply system. Many team members use what they know. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 12:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aftac: They are and CompM4 and CompM4S is in the supply system. Many team members use what they know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aftac: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Are the M4S kosher on URGIs? They are and CompM4 and CompM4S is in the supply system. Many team members use what they know. CompM4s and Larue mount was my first set-up on my URGI. In my quest to have some variety in optics that I own, I may go back to it on my 14.5” URGI. Which would free up my T2 for an 11.5” URGI down the road. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 12:18:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: From what I've seen the consensus is you either love the Elcan or hate it. Some say the eyebox and eye relief is great, others say it sucks. Some hate the arms mounts and external adjustments, some say no issues. I've come to appreciate durability above all things and the Elcan certainly has that reputation. How is it on 1x? Do you feel its faster than an LPVO despite the 2.5 inch-ish eye relief? For me the lackluster warranty, somewhat high price and only 4x for said price kinda holds me back. But I am still intrigued. Been thinking of just going back to Acog/RMR for my Block 1 instead and leaving Razor on the URGI. Eye relief caused me to sell my last one, but the only other magnified optic on the same level of durability is the Elcan. Maybe ATACR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: Originally Posted By HD2006: I prefer the Elcan. I’ve come to really dislike LPVO’s. I actually started with a Razor 1-6 on my Block II and traded it for an Elcan 1-4 which I still have. I later picked up a Razor 1-10 for my URGI, kept it for a bit and sold it. I recently picked up another Razor 1-10, kept it for a day and went right back to my T2 on the URGI. I love my Elcan though and am considering picking another one up in the future. From what I've seen the consensus is you either love the Elcan or hate it. Some say the eyebox and eye relief is great, others say it sucks. Some hate the arms mounts and external adjustments, some say no issues. I've come to appreciate durability above all things and the Elcan certainly has that reputation. How is it on 1x? Do you feel its faster than an LPVO despite the 2.5 inch-ish eye relief? For me the lackluster warranty, somewhat high price and only 4x for said price kinda holds me back. But I am still intrigued. Been thinking of just going back to Acog/RMR for my Block 1 instead and leaving Razor on the URGI. Eye relief caused me to sell my last one, but the only other magnified optic on the same level of durability is the Elcan. Maybe ATACR. The eye relief doesn’t bother me. But 4x ACOG eye relief doesn’t bother me either so the Elcan feels better to me with the slightly longer eye relief. 1x seems fine to me. The illuminated dot is red dot bright but even with it off, the etched reticle is very easy to pick up on 1x. I always have a hard time getting the diopter set correctly so that I can get a true 1x on LPVO’s. The Elcan does not have an adjustable diopter but it works well with my eyes. Armament Tech has really good customer service. The written warranty may not sound good but in reality they seem to take of any problems without issue. I marred up my battery cap trying to get it off pretty good. I called them up and they sent me a new one free of charge. |
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Posted: 11/9/2021 2:53:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlueDevilBrew]
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Posted: 11/11/2021 2:16:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 4:36:26 PM EDT
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6920 OEM 1 & 2 at Arms Unlimited for 750.-
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/11/2021 4:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diz: 6920 OEM 1 & 2 at Arms Unlimited for 750.- Thats almost pre-scamdemic price......good deal. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 7:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imdBman: My Elcan was issued and it worked great for a combat optic. I don't spend $1k on optics so I do not own one. I have an LPVO on my URGI with an offset RDS because it is my coyote rifle too. If it was a clone or SHTF only, the Elcan is perfect. What language is that??
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Posted: 11/12/2021 8:36:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: On the upper, yes as new and old uppers were used to rebuild URGI from URGs. Cage coded uppers are in the system for replacements. While, I've seen only one or two FN M4A1s in Groups as replacement guns. Most 99.99% are Colts for some reason. However, USASFC doesn't get issued M4s (burst), they get M4A1 (auto) guns. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By beefboi99: Are FN Cage Code uppers and FN Lowers correct for an URGI? Just ordered a FN M4 marked lower from PA. Wondering if I should get a Matching FN upper. On the upper, yes as new and old uppers were used to rebuild URGI from URGs. Cage coded uppers are in the system for replacements. While, I've seen only one or two FN M4A1s in Groups as replacement guns. Most 99.99% are Colts for some reason. However, USASFC doesn't get issued M4s (burst), they get M4A1 (auto) guns. CD Were only the Raised Lettering FN/Colt/Anchor Harvey uppers used or were any of the Stamped/Lazer FN Uppers used? |
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Posted: 11/12/2021 2:11:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2021 2:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beefboi99: CD, Were only the Raised Lettering FN/Colt/Anchor Harvey uppers used or were any of the Stamped/Lazer FN Uppers used? Any USGI M4 upper in system |
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Posted: 11/12/2021 4:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Any USGI M4 upper in system Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By beefboi99: CD, Were only the Raised Lettering FN/Colt/Anchor Harvey uppers used or were any of the Stamped/Lazer FN Uppers used? Any USGI M4 upper in system |
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Posted: 11/12/2021 10:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Will816: What language is that?? 🤣😂 |
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Posted: 11/12/2021 10:36:55 PM EDT
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Hot fucking damn I finally scored the DD barrel and it was the last one in stock.............................Got 3 Four prongs on backorder and will order the NF NX8 for thanksgiving then assemble.......Which would be the appropriate mount for the NF? G or Unimount?
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Posted: 11/12/2021 11:41:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2021 9:30:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoRebels: Hot fucking damn I finally scored the DD barrel and it was the last one in stock.............................Got 3 Four prongs on backorder and will order the NF NX8 for thanksgiving then assemble.......Which would be the appropriate mount for the NF? G or Unimount? Nice, I have instock notifications for everywhere and haven’t seen a DD barrel in quite some time. Hope they bust out a run before March so I can assemble a URGI clone when I come back to the states. |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 11:40:13 AM EDT
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Have other scope mounts been used with the Razors besides the Geissele mount?
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Posted: 11/13/2021 12:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTM20: Have other scope mounts been used with the Razors besides the Geissele mount? I asked a similar question a while back because I wanted to know if my ADM recon mount was g2g. Someone responded that they have seen the same setup being used. |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 12:53:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: I asked a similar question a while back because I wanted to know if my ADM recon mount was g2g. Someone responded that they have seen the same setup being used. Good to know. I'm betting there's been a few other mounts seen in the wild, just looking to see what my options are. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 2:20:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/14/2021 6:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpartanNick: Sold my second URGI upper for $2k on Gbroker. Wow, 2k! I’m tempted to sell my first run upper now. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 8:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU: Wow, 2k! I’m tempted to sell my first run upper now. Now that Geissele is making them again with G barrels you'll either get a big premium for the DD barrel, or on the other hand people that haven't been following it closely might not know the difference. There's a G barrel version on gunbroker now for 1350 new. |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 1:48:31 AM EDT
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Was there ever an official LPVO optic named for the rifle, and what about official BUIS?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2021 4:36:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SOCOM76: Was there ever an official LPVO optic named for the rifle, and what about official BUIS? Matech rear, Knights front |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 11:03:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SpartanNick]
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There's a new DD 14.5 mid barrel on the EE...FYI
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Posted: 11/16/2021 2:44:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SOCOM76: Was there ever an official LPVO optic named for the rifle, and what about official BUIS? |
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Posted: 11/16/2021 2:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Tano ATACR, and the sig tango also has a contract. But anything official? A lot of different optics pictured so I'm guessing it's up to the unit or operator. |
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