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Posted: 3/27/2022 11:18:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Some consider it taboo but I’ve never had a problem running irons forward on the receiver. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Originally Posted By Everybodygotone: IMO the cantilever looks weird but it seems to work. I'm thinking I'll put mine on an ADM or MI mount as far back as it will go and either moving the rear buis forward or ditch the buis all together. Some consider it taboo but I’ve never had a problem running irons forward on the receiver.  Attached FileIf it works it works. Mines going on an AK Not sure if I want to go as low as possible. Or if I want to use the carry handle spacer so I can still user irons and the scope without removing the qd mount. Depends on the cheek weld I guess. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2022 7:40:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Some consider it taboo but I’ve never had a problem running irons forward on the receiver. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Originally Posted By Everybodygotone: IMO the cantilever looks weird but it seems to work. I'm thinking I'll put mine on an ADM or MI mount as far back as it will go and either moving the rear buis forward or ditch the buis all together. Some consider it taboo but I’ve never had a problem running irons forward on the receiver. Could always use 45^ angled irons. I've used them before. It's not bad. |
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Posted: 3/30/2022 12:09:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryYou would think after all these years they could come up with a better logo than some Windows 95 font BS for their Chicom made stuff. |
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Posted: 3/30/2022 1:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast: You would think after all these years they could come up with a better logo than some Windows 95 font BS for their Chicom made stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast: You would think after all these years they could come up with a better logo than some Windows 95 font BS for their Chicom made stuff. The newer advanced micro has black subdued text at least |
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Posted: 4/1/2022 4:21:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast: You would think after all these years they could come up with a better logo than some Windows 95 font BS for their Chicom made stuff. They have a new logo and are phasing out the old one. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2022 11:03:19 AM EDT
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I put it on my 357 lever gun and it looks great. Got lucky and didn't have to adjust a single thing out of the box for POI at 50 yds with a 38spl sub, but will need to retest and adjust with my +P 38/357 ammo.
The one complaint I have, and it probably only applies to me on a lever with more drop than an AR, is the eyebox is about .25" further forward than I'd like in the last rail slot. I can't use the cantilever mount because it brings the height up too high and don't want to put an adjustable comb on it at the moment. Would be nice if they had a straight back modular piece included to pull the mount back a little. Other than that one nitpick I'm pretty darn happy |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2022 11:54:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Got mine in yesterday from akou, great place to buy from by the way, and am very happy with it.
The glass seems better than my slx 1-6, and the thing seems solid, was particularly impressed with how they went with helicoils instead of just threading straight into the aluminum. *a helicoil is a steel coil used as threads, say for example you stripped out something aluminum, you'd drill out the hole to the next appropriate size up, thread it with the tap helicoil provides, and then screw in the coil which will serve as your new threads. They give a significantly stronger interface for a given bolt diameter than you'd get from threading into aluminum alone. |
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Posted: 4/7/2022 1:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cr445671: Got mine in yesterday from akou, great place to buy from by the way, and am very happy with it. The glass seems better than my slx 1-6, and the thing seems solid, was particularly impressed with how they went with helicoils instead of just threading straight into the aluminum. *a helicoil is a steel coil used as threads, say for example you stripped out something aluminum, you'd drill out the hole to the next appropriate size up, thread it with the tap helicoil provides, and then screw in the coil which will serve as your new threads. They give a significantly stronger interface for a given bolt diameter than you'd get from threading into aluminum alone. The part in bold is good to hear. The SLX 1-6 has some of the worst glass in an LPVO I’ve seen and my old style 3X and 5X prisms bested it quite a bit. Never even questioned if it was the same with these. |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 9:32:58 AM EDT
[#9]
I got to shoot mine at 300 yards yesterday. The reticle is very precise at 300 compared to the one x. I liked it a lot
way better eye relief / eye box than a 4x acog. Better FOV than a ta33. Glass is pretty darn good. But I didn’t stay till dust to see how it did in low light. The adjustable diopter is very welcome. Illum is Bright enough for the massive doughnut. I hope to run it a little in cqb drills and transitions today. I have always felt hindered by magnification close in with my acogs. We will see. |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 10:10:17 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inkaybee: I got to shoot mine at 300 yards yesterday. The reticle is very precise at 300 compared to the one x. I liked it a lot way better eye relief / eye box than a 4x acog. Better FOV than a ta33. Glass is pretty darn good. But I didn’t stay till dust to see how it did in low light. The adjustable diopter is very welcome. Illum is Bright enough for the massive doughnut. I hope to run it a little in cqb drills and transitions today. I have always felt hindered by magnification close in with my acogs. We will see. It's really quite nice for the price point. I'm not sure I want to run as a primary optic cause Chinesium. I think a LOW made version with razor quality glass, off positions between power settings and a provision for a top mount rmr at <1k would sell well and I would be in for at least 1. |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 1:11:36 PM EDT
[#11]
How long did you guys have to wait from ordering to delivery?
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Posted: 4/10/2022 1:56:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Just10mm]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: How long did you guys have to wait from ordering to delivery? I ordered one directly from PA on February 24th, still nada. I guess they get them in batches of 3 or 4 at a time.  |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 2:03:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Just10mm: I ordered one directly from PA on February 24th, still nada. I guess the get them in batches of 3 or 4 at a time. Ouch. Pretty sure I saw someone say they got theirs in less than two weeks fairly recently. ETA: Nevermind. They ordered from AKOU that has the commie version in stock. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2022 3:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Ouch. Pretty sure I saw someone say they got theirs in less than two weeks fairly recently. ETA: Nevermind. They ordered from AKOU that has the commie version in stock. Commie version? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/10/2022 5:53:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JimmyAR: Commie version? Calibrated for 7.62x39/300BLK. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2022 6:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Calibrated for 7.62x39/300BLK. Doh, that makes sense. I ordered mine on the first pre-buy they ran, and had it by the end of March vs April. A bit over 2 weeks I think. 556 reticle from PA. Albeit I sold it already after all the hype and wait. I really liked it, but I like the GLX2 Prism better for my needs. I may go with the 1x or dare I say if they come out with the 2X micro which they probably will I would buy it to try. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2022 2:03:27 AM EDT
[#17]
 Kind of want to replace my 1x with another one of these 3x's, I like it so much. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:27:55 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inkaybee: I got to shoot mine at 300 yards yesterday. The reticle is very precise at 300 compared to the one x. I liked it a lot way better eye relief / eye box than a 4x acog. Better FOV than a ta33. Glass is pretty darn good. But I didn't stay till dust to see how it did in low light. The adjustable diopter is very welcome. Illum is Bright enough for the massive doughnut. I hope to run it a little in cqb drills and transitions today. I have always felt hindered by magnification close in with my acogs. We will see. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 3:33:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Just10mm: I ordered one directly from PA on February 24th, still nada. I guess they get them in batches of 3 or 4 at a time. Well that means mine won't be coming soon. Hmmm, might cancel. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 3:46:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Everybodygotone: Well that means mine won't be coming soon. Hmmm, might cancel. It still says fulfilling in April on their website. I’m hoping that means they’re getting a decent sized shipment and the April fulfillment is still accurate. @PrimaryArms |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 10:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currahee: How were the CQB drills compared to ACOG? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currahee: Originally Posted By inkaybee: I got to shoot mine at 300 yards yesterday. The reticle is very precise at 300 compared to the one x. I liked it a lot way better eye relief / eye box than a 4x acog. Better FOV than a ta33. Glass is pretty darn good. But I didn't stay till dust to see how it did in low light. The adjustable diopter is very welcome. Illum is Bright enough for the massive doughnut. I hope to run it a little in cqb drills and transitions today. I have always felt hindered by magnification close in with my acogs. We will see. I didn’t get to do as much as I’d have liked. But my initial impression is that a 3x is a 3x. All the same old problems still apply. The reticle is huge and I think that helps but I need to play with it more. It isn’t magic. |
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Posted: 4/21/2022 9:29:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#22]
They turned off back orders for the 5.56. Not sure if that’s a good or a bad sign. I asked if they had any updates in their industry forum but it’s the only topic they haven’t responded to.
ETA: Their social media is all quiet about it too, despite tons of “when” posts. They’re usually not this tight lipped about stuff. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2022 2:37:10 PM EDT
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Demand is exceeding supply it seems.
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Posted: 4/21/2022 8:23:01 PM EDT
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Dumb question.
Why are the mounting screws M5 instead of 10-32? I bet you guys might have a few people hossing down a 10-32 screw into the M5 helicoil not knowing any better until its too late The m5 threads in a bit before it stops, but to the ignorant they might just torque it down. Also most after market mounts come with 10-32 screws. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2022 10:37:31 AM EDT
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If you are local there are a few open box or blemished 3x micros on the table in front of checkout at Primary Arms. I guess I should have bought them up and put them on EE for y'all :)
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Posted: 4/22/2022 11:12:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#26]
I heard from them today and they said another few weeks, so April delivery must be delayed.
I’m debating canceling mine and just getting a 2X but I’m really trying to keep the weight down on this build so I’m unsure. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 12:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: I heard from them today and they said another few weeks, so April delivery must be delayed. I’m debating canceling mine and just getting a 2X but I’m really trying to keep the weight down on this build so I’m unsure. Unless you're in a hurry I'd wait for it. The size and weight is really impressive. Feels more like a t2 than an acog on the rifle. With the illumination/usable reticle, adjustable diopter, and fov in such a small package there isn't really anything else comparable right now. Hopefully it's the 1st in its class and they will have higher end models down the road. I think a Japanese made version with better glass, off settings between illumination settings, and a provision for a top mount rmr would find a market in the 6-800$ range. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 12:41:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Just10mm]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Unless you're in a hurry I'd wait for it. The size and weight is really impressive. Feels more like a t2 than an acog on the rifle. With the illumination/usable reticle, adjustable diopter, and fov in such a small package there isn't really anything else comparable right now. Hopefully it's the 1st in its class and they will have higher end models down the road. I think a Japanese made version with better glass, off settings between illumination settings, and a provision for a top mount rmr would find a market in the 6-800$ range. I agree with the higher end models. PA has a real opportunity here to own the prism market if they are smart about it. As to the delay's, I think China is a big, hot mess right now and no doubt affecting the continuous delays. I would hope that this will continue to fuel PA to look outside of China for manufacturing. Continuous delays, no inventory and missed deadlines are going to cripple their operations if it continues. I'll continue to wait, it's been delayed months, what's a few more weeks? 
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Posted: 4/22/2022 12:58:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Just10mm: I agree with the higher end models. PA has a real opportunity here to own the prism market if they are smart about it. As to the delay's, I think China is a big, hot mess right now and no doubt affecting the continuous delays. I would hope that this will continue to fuel PA to look outside of China for manufacturing. Continuous delays, no inventory and missed deadlines are going to cripple their operations if it continues. I'll continue to wait, it's been delayed months, what's a few more weeks? My impatience is all surrounding my 716i. The PA is replacing my Leupold on my M4’gery, with the Leupold being moved back to the Sig. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 5:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt_Destro: Dumb question. Why are the mounting screws M5 instead of 10-32? I bet you guys might have a few people hossing down a 10-32 screw into the M5 helicoil not knowing any better until its too late The M5 threads in a bit before it stops, but to the ignorant they might just torque it down. Also most after market mounts come with 10-32 screws. The manual for the 3x microprism says the screws are 10-32, are you saying they're M5? I have a few of the 1x version and they're definitely using 10-32 screws (like Acogs). I figured the 3x would be the same. |
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Posted: 4/22/2022 7:11:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MonolithicRP: The manual for the 3x microprism says the screws are 10-32, are you saying they're M5? I have a few of the 1x version and they're definitely using 10-32 screws (like Acogs). I figured the 3x would be the same. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MonolithicRP: Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: Dumb question. Why are the mounting screws M5 instead of 10-32? I bet you guys might have a few people hossing down a 10-32 screw into the M5 helicoil not knowing any better until its too late The M5 threads in a bit before it stops, but to the ignorant they might just torque it down. Also most after market mounts come with 10-32 screws. The manual for the 3x microprism says the screws are 10-32, are you saying they're M5? I have a few of the 1x version and they're definitely using 10-32 screws (like Acogs). I figured the 3x would be the same. Using one of the spacers I don't care about: The 10-32 won't thread in at all. The M5 threads in but it is tight. No damage. Factory screws thread in nice and easy. Another easy test. Magpul BUIS Screws are 10-32. So i took the nut from one of these. The factory screws won't thread into a 10-32 nut. Factory Screws thread into an M5 nut but feel a tad looser than the Mcmaster Carr M5 screws I have on hand. These have to be metric. I just need some concave head screws that will work with this. Seriously weird. Honestly ran into the same issue with the Fullsize 3x. (10-32 Screws are from multiple sources) 10-32 screws from rs regulate and ak master mount don't thread in.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:42:59 AM EDT
[#32]
I canceled mine. Had a too good to pass up deal come up on an optic for my 308 so I’m leaving my LPVO on my M4’gery for now. I’ll probably get one some day when the supply stabilizes.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2022 5:06:13 PM EDT
[#33]
man i hope they come back in stock or preorder soon, I have been going back and forth on these and finally decided i want one, and cant order it!
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Posted: 5/9/2022 11:47:47 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zaitsev9130: man i hope they come back in stock or preorder soon, I have been going back and forth on these and finally decided i want one, and cant order it! A shipment is in house going through QC so some pre orders will ship this week. We have another shipment arriving in Just and will get pre-orders back up today |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 4:27:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: A shipment is in house going through QC so some pre orders will ship this week. We have another shipment arriving in Just and will get pre-orders back up today Was that June or July? Guessing you meant July but wanted to confirm. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 8:42:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewWind: Was that June or July? Guessing you meant July but wanted to confirm. No another shipment is slated for next month. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 9:10:51 AM EDT
[#37]
@Marsh1
Is threadlocker fine on these? Also noticed different screws were rather tight threading in. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:05:30 PM EDT
[#38]
When mounted to a carry handle can you still use irons? I don't see a channel like an ACOG would have
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:15:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cj3waker: When mounted to a carry handle can you still use irons? I don't see a channel like an ACOG would have One of the included risers has a channel for this. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 8:07:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cj3waker]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt_Destro: One of the included risers has a channel for this. Sweet. Anyone that have one wanna take a pic? Just curious about the height with riser vs say an acog on a carry handle |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 12:09:53 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cj3waker: Sweet. Anyone that have one wanna take a pic? Just curious about the height with riser vs say an acog on a carry handle Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cj3waker: Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: One of the included risers has a channel for this. Sweet. Anyone that have one wanna take a pic? Just curious about the height with riser vs say an acog on a carry handle Optic sits lower than an Acog with no riser. Optics + Riser is about an Acog's height. I was debating on using the riser with a channel on an AK so that I could use both irons and the optic. Im not sure if I prefer that height though lol. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2022 12:28:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Orded 2/26, got the pre-shipment confirmation this morning FWIW
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:17:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By T22: Orded 2/26, got the pre-shipment confirmation this morning FWIW Same here. It's overdue but the timing is good, I just finished the build it's going on and I am just recently back on my feet from a broken ankle. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 6:04:19 PM EDT
[#44]
For those that have it already, how is it up close with both eyes open. Or even one eye. Just up close in general with or without illumination.
I can both eyes open a 3x mag and red dot, so if it's similar.... I've been bouncing between this and the upcoming glx 1-6 for a good minute. And with pre-orders back up I'm stuck in a loop again. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2022 10:36:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zaitsev9130]
[#45]
I ordered one yesterday, website says it will ship in june.
Yesterday I went to cabelas and looked through the vortex spitfire gen 2 3x ( and 5x) and the burris rt-3. I liked the rt-3 best, but still the reticle was kinda small, the votrex reticle was really small in the 3x. the 5x reticel was perfect but, I honestly didnt see much difference in the magnification and it had a tighter eye box and smaller fov so i ruled out the 5x pretty quick. the burris was really nice and i was temtped to just get one they had in stock.. but i decided to hold off and after looking at some more stuff online decided to go with the primary arms. hope i dont regret it! I want something that has better visibility out to 2-300 yards than the 1x micro prism on my 10.5", But i dont want the weight and size of a lpvo on my lightweight 16" gunner. so this has me really looking for something like one of these micro prisms. Honestly if someone could make a 1-4x lpvo that is like around 10-12 ounces, and 6-7" that would be perfect! ( looking at you PA) the leupold vx 1.5-4x20 is close to what im looking for, but its still pretty long ( i want somthing shorter than the upper) and still not even 1x.. but until then i think one of the micro prisms at about 3x is what i want. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 7:00:10 AM EDT
[#46]
I picked up an extra swfa 1-4 when they had their sale on them at $240. It is pretty close to that weighing 14 ozs. They are pretty tough and reticle can be used for drop compensation. Just don't like how much the eye relief changes as you move through the power range. Plenty bright illumination
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:17:12 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: For those that have it already, how is it up close with both eyes open. Or even one eye. Just up close in general with or without illumination. I can both eyes open a 3x mag and red dot, so if it's similar.... I've been bouncing between this and the upcoming glx 1-6 for a good minute. And with pre-orders back up I'm stuck in a loop again. If you are comfortable with the 3X magnifier you will be fine with teh prism. It is easier to get behind than a red dot with magnifier. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 7:32:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: If you are comfortable with the 3X magnifier you will be fine with teh prism. It is easier to get behind than a red dot with magnifier. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MARSH1: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: For those that have it already, how is it up close with both eyes open. Or even one eye. Just up close in general with or without illumination. I can both eyes open a 3x mag and red dot, so if it's similar.... I've been bouncing between this and the upcoming glx 1-6 for a good minute. And with pre-orders back up I'm stuck in a loop again. If you are comfortable with the 3X magnifier you will be fine with teh prism. It is easier to get behind than a red dot with magnifier. It will shave weight off my bloated light weight 14.5 build. Take it from a little over 8 pounds with an lpvo to around 6.5 with optic light and irons  It will also free up room for my support hand. The Viper it currently wears covers a lot of space over the 10.5 inch rail. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 10:08:02 AM EDT
[#49]
Heads up, AKOU shows these in stock (the 5.56 version). I ordered one last night and got a shipping notice this morning.
One question, does it come with all the necessary hardware to mount onto a carry handle? I know it has a mount, but I saw an additional hardware add-on on PA's site. I have a rifle I want to try this on with that configuration. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 10:20:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Kenzie's optics also had the 556 in stock
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