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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: Swapped out the CTR for a SOPMOD stock. Added a Geissele SSA, CQD front and rear sling mounts, as well as a Surefire SF3P. Now all that's left is for TNVC to ship out my ATPIAL-C and I may add a Docter MRDS to the Elcan. Other than that, I think I'm about done.  https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15681799456_63ff21fc19_b.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3952/15520689710_da263b26e5_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7568/15703612221_42c1eb8d3f_b.jpg Love it! I'm starting to want some paint on mine.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:43:55 PM EDT
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Socom 556-RC goes on the CQBR, M4-2000 goes on the Mod 0.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:02:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wormydog1987:
Socom 556-RC goes on the CQBR, M4-2000 goes on the Mod 0.
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp247/wormydog1724/D90BD2C1-9005-479A-BDFE-C1E1C0C86DA0_zpsomzoipiz.jpg Does the SF SOCOM brake need a spacer for the RC to clear on a CQBR? I'm likely to make a move on a SOCOM can myself finally as well. And RJeff, your CQBR is the sickest I've seen thus far. As I told you after your last pics, a SOPMOD stock was all that was missing. Well played.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:34:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Does the SF SOCOM brake need a spacer for the RC to clear on a CQBR? I'm likely to make a move on a SOCOM can myself finally as well. And RJeff, your CQBR is the sickest I've seen thus far. As I told you after your last pics, a SOPMOD stock was all that was missing. Well played. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By Wormydog1987:
Socom 556-RC goes on the CQBR, M4-2000 goes on the Mod 0.
http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp247/wormydog1724/D90BD2C1-9005-479A-BDFE-C1E1C0C86DA0_zpsomzoipiz.jpg Does the SF SOCOM brake need a spacer for the RC to clear on a CQBR? I'm likely to make a move on a SOCOM can myself finally as well. And RJeff, your CQBR is the sickest I've seen thus far. As I told you after your last pics, a SOPMOD stock was all that was missing. Well played. Thanks man! I've got way too many stocks floating around my parts bin so it was as simple as picking one out of there. I'm eventually going to build a 14.5" upper to make myself a "SOPMOD Kit" so the SOPMOD will definitely help balance the rifle a little better when the 14.5" upper is on it. 
I suppose I'm not done though, considering I forgot I have to pick up a SOCOM RC...... And a PVS-14....... My wallet hurts. 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:16:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Love it! I'm starting to want some paint on mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Swapped out the CTR for a SOPMOD stock. Added a Geissele SSA, CQD front and rear sling mounts, as well as a Surefire SF3P. Now all that's left is for TNVC to ship out my ATPIAL-C and I may add a Docter MRDS to the Elcan. Other than that, I think I'm about done.
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3941/15681799456_63ff21fc19_b.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3952/15520689710_da263b26e5_b.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7568/15703612221_42c1eb8d3f_b.jpg Love it! I'm starting to want some paint on mine. Do it. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:38:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tmender03]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
They shouldn't be marked as so. The SOPMOD program and the CQBR are additions to the already issued M4A1. There shouldn't be any distinction on the lower as to whether it has a CQBR upper or SOPMOD accessories (Block I or II) attached to it or not. ETA: It shouldn't be any different than the picture below other than the addition of "A1" to the end of M4. This is exactly how my issued M4 looks. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/103m95g/DSCN0112.jpg ETA2: I also found this picture that has "Colt Defense" in the manufacturer info. I think it's a toss up, but either one would be correct. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/29ea5707-0aed-49f0-bb93-3118138ce66b_zpsd2e9ae49.jpg?t=1371521262 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I was under the impression that they were marked with Colt Defense. Hmmmmmm. You may be correct, as I do not know. I was given this photo by an individual who served in Afghanistan from 2010-2013. It is the carbine he was issued, and is rollmarked as my engraving. He sent me high resolution pics that I could use to program off of. His issued carbine is not a Block II, is why I was asking if they (block ii's) were rollmarked so. http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/AFG_-_M4A1_zpsd51fb5c1.jpg They shouldn't be marked as so. The SOPMOD program and the CQBR are additions to the already issued M4A1. There shouldn't be any distinction on the lower as to whether it has a CQBR upper or SOPMOD accessories (Block I or II) attached to it or not. ETA: It shouldn't be any different than the picture below other than the addition of "A1" to the end of M4. This is exactly how my issued M4 looks. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/103m95g/DSCN0112.jpg ETA2: I also found this picture that has "Colt Defense" in the manufacturer info. I think it's a toss up, but either one would be correct. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/29ea5707-0aed-49f0-bb93-3118138ce66b_zpsd2e9ae49.jpg?t=1371521262 To make things even more interesting, check out the markings on the M16(A2) I was issued. Btw, I got it with those terrible etchings on it. 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:40:34 AM EDT
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is anyone rocking a LWRC Ultra Compact stock on their MK18?
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:51:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ShiftSix]
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Million dollar question for you folks...
If I have a DD 10.3" barrel which has been mentioned to be "over gassed" , I primarily shoot pmc bronze with the occasional MK262 when my wallet allows..and I have a Surefire 556RC on its way. what size gas port will allow the rifle to cycle smoothly and reliably across that spectrum with the can on and off?
Reason I ask is im tempted to do the Baby Govnah and drill the hole myself. Or would it really be worth the money to buy the larger one that is adjustable? |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:19:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
This, same, getting antsy lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Lawdog-1:
Which SUREFIRE Can do most people here use the SF SOCOM 556-MG or SF SOCOM 556-SB ? SOCOM RC in jail. Shouldn't be too long now. This, same, getting antsy lol Picked up my can recently. Took 5 months, almost to the day. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:25:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ShiftSix]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bg10:
Picked up my can recently. Took 5 months, almost to the day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bg10:
Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Lawdog-1:
Which SUREFIRE Can do most people here use the SF SOCOM 556-MG or SF SOCOM 556-SB ? SOCOM RC in jail. Shouldn't be too long now. This, same, getting antsy lol Picked up my can recently. Took 5 months, almost to the day. From when you mailed? Check cashed? or the ever changing pending date they give us? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:30:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tmender03:
To make things even more interesting, check out the markings on the M16(A2) I was issued. Btw, I got it with those terrible etchings on it.<a href="http://s284.photobucket.com/user/joshauclarkson/media/IMG_20141013_171152_zpsym9tyrk_edit_1415108467997_zpsuxrjhwue.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20141013_171152_zpsym9tyrk_edit_1415108467997_zpsuxrjhwue.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I was under the impression that they were marked with Colt Defense. Hmmmmmm. You may be correct, as I do not know. I was given this photo by an individual who served in Afghanistan from 2010-2013. It is the carbine he was issued, and is rollmarked as my engraving. He sent me high resolution pics that I could use to program off of. His issued carbine is not a Block II, is why I was asking if they (block ii's) were rollmarked so. http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/AFG_-_M4A1_zpsd51fb5c1.jpg They shouldn't be marked as so. The SOPMOD program and the CQBR are additions to the already issued M4A1. There shouldn't be any distinction on the lower as to whether it has a CQBR upper or SOPMOD accessories (Block I or II) attached to it or not. ETA: It shouldn't be any different than the picture below other than the addition of "A1" to the end of M4. This is exactly how my issued M4 looks. http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/103m95g/DSCN0112.jpg ETA2: I also found this picture that has "Colt Defense" in the manufacturer info. I think it's a toss up, but either one would be correct. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/nchapa/29ea5707-0aed-49f0-bb93-3118138ce66b_zpsd2e9ae49.jpg?t=1371521262 To make things even more interesting, check out the markings on the M16(A2) I was issued. Btw, I got it with those terrible etchings on it.<a href="http://s284.photobucket.com/user/joshauclarkson/media/IMG_20141013_171152_zpsym9tyrk_edit_1415108467997_zpsuxrjhwue.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/joshauclarkson/IMG_20141013_171152_zpsym9tyrk_edit_1415108467997_zpsuxrjhwue.jpg</a> Oh good god i thought that was a transferable M16 at first and threw up in my mouth a little. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:38:32 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Million dollar question for you folks... If I have a DD 10.3" barrel which has been mentioned to be "over gassed" , I primarily shoot pmc bronze with the occasional MK262 when my wallet allows..and I have a Surefire 556RC on its way. what size gas port will allow the rifle to cycle smoothly and reliably across that spectrum with the can on and off?
Reason I ask is im tempted to do the Baby Govnah and drill the hole myself. Or would it really be worth the money to buy the larger one that is adjustable? It cycles fine, and smoothly is hard to measure. I don't know how much performance gains you'll get out of the investment. Maybe a tad bit less felt recoil. Gas will become way more of an issue when you're shooting automatic in my experiences. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:42:20 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
From when you mailed? Check cashed? or the ever changing pending date they give us? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By bg10:
Originally Posted By ShiftSix:
Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Lawdog-1:
Which SUREFIRE Can do most people here use the SF SOCOM 556-MG or SF SOCOM 556-SB ? SOCOM RC in jail. Shouldn't be too long now. This, same, getting antsy lol Picked up my can recently. Took 5 months, almost to the day. From when you mailed? Check cashed? or the ever changing pending date they give us? From when form 4 was mailed. I'll have to go back and check when check was cashed and status went pending Paper form 4 with trust. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:43:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:47:07 AM EDT
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i think I've decided to go the block I route on my next one.
Time to start scouring the EE 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:49:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix: Million dollar question for you folks... If I have a DD 10.3" barrel which has been mentioned to be "over gassed" , I primarily shoot pmc bronze with the occasional MK262 when my wallet allows..and I have a Surefire 556RC on its way. what size gas port will allow the rifle to cycle smoothly and reliably across that spectrum with the can on and off?Reason I ask is im tempted to do the Baby Govnah and drill the hole myself. Or would it really be worth the money to buy the larger one that is adjustable? It is all personal preference. Going to a fixed smaller port is a compromise. Some are willing to take it a step further and willing to have a rifle that won't lock the bolt back when unsuppressed and then will lock it back when suppressed. Consider that what we typically see is a 20 thousandths difference between the 'optimal unsuppressed port size' and the suppressed port size.....note that the 'optimal unsuppressed port size' rarely equals the port in the barrel which is typically oversized to run weak ammo. So in the case of the commercial DD10.3 being .082. The 'optimal unsuppressed port size' is .070 which is what Crane specifed as documented on page 4 here: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2003smallarms/john.ppt We do all of our testing for a milspec configuration...meaning use of a standard power spring (white Sprinco) and H2 buffer and M855/M193. 20 thousandths off of the .070 port is .050 but there is no .050 bit so we use .049 which is a 1.25mm bit. You can split the difference in half and go with approximately 10 thousandths instead of 20 thousands and be right at .059 or .063 with a Baby Govnah. PMC bronze may not lock the bolt back unsuppressed but MK262 probably will. If you do that you will be under the port sizing used by the military for their 10.3's and when fired enough suppressed, it will get dirty faster and then you will have to stop to clean your action sooner. If you're not shooting a lot then maybe that this is all fine for you. With the regular Govnah, most people running DD MK18's run them with 3 positions .070/.049/.082. So you now have a low, medium and high to run suppressed. Likewise, you also have a normal and high to run unsuppressed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:58:19 AM EDT
[#17]
Speaking of all this gas port size talk with the DD MK18 uppers - has anyone ran into any issues with the factory gas port size on their DD MK18 upper when running suppressed shooting commercial 55 grain stuff like PMC?
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:12:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFrom when form 4 was mailed. I'll have to go back and check when check was cashed and status went pending
Paper form 4 with trust. Cool, Mine was sent on July 17th, Cashed July 23rd. (crossing my fingers I get it before Christmas! |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:14:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Speaking of all this gas port size talk with the DD MK18 uppers - has anyone ran into any issues with the factory gas port size on their DD MK18 upper when running suppressed shooting commercial 55 grain stuff like PMC?  |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:26:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ShiftSix]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian:
We've used PMC Bronze for some of our baseline testing and it will run at .049, .070, and .082 w/ zero malfunctions on our DD MK18 upper in all 3 of those port sizes. There is a huge difference in the amount of gas in the face and action between a .049 and .082 port. Recoil is greatly decreased as well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2QsKuX2xM
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Speaking of all this gas port size talk with the DD MK18 uppers - has anyone ran into any issues with the factory gas port size on their DD MK18 upper when running suppressed shooting commercial 55 grain stuff like PMC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2QsKuX2xM
Yeahhh you suck hahaha you just talked me into the 3 position one. 
Thank you for the video... completely cleared up what I was wondering as I wait for my first suppressor. I guess the biggest question would be, If I do not run steel cased stuff in my rifle... is there even a need at all for the .82 position? Edit, and when will they be in stock 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Hmmmmmm. You may be correct, as I do not know. I was given this photo by an individual who served in Afghanistan from 2010-2013. It is the carbine he was issued, and is rollmarked as my engraving. He sent me high resolution pics that I could use to program off of. His issued carbine is not a Block II, is why I was asking if they (block ii's) were rollmarked so. He also sent me photo's of his issued carbine frmo 2006-2007. It was marked M4 and was mfg'd by Colt Defense. http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/AFG_-_M4A1_zpsd51fb5c1.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
I was under the impression that they were marked with Colt Defense. Hmmmmmm. You may be correct, as I do not know. I was given this photo by an individual who served in Afghanistan from 2010-2013. It is the carbine he was issued, and is rollmarked as my engraving. He sent me high resolution pics that I could use to program off of. His issued carbine is not a Block II, is why I was asking if they (block ii's) were rollmarked so. He also sent me photo's of his issued carbine frmo 2006-2007. It was marked M4 and was mfg'd by Colt Defense. http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/AFG_-_M4A1_zpsd51fb5c1.jpg man the NT4 looks perfect on the mod 0. awesome rifle |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:21:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix: Yeahhh you suck hahaha you just talked me into the 3 position one. Thank you for the video... completely cleared up what I was wondering as I wait for my first suppressor. I guess the biggest question would be, If I do not run steel cased stuff in my rifle... is there even a need at all for the .82 position? Edit, and when will they be in stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShiftSix: Originally Posted By amphibian: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Speaking of all this gas port size talk with the DD MK18 uppers - has anyone ran into any issues with the factory gas port size on their DD MK18 upper when running suppressed shooting commercial 55 grain stuff like PMC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2QsKuX2xMYeahhh you suck hahaha you just talked me into the 3 position one. Thank you for the video... completely cleared up what I was wondering as I wait for my first suppressor. I guess the biggest question would be, If I do not run steel cased stuff in my rifle... is there even a need at all for the .82 position? Edit, and when will they be in stock We have some departments that use the .082 for Simunitions w/o having to resort to buffer/spring changes. That would be one reason. I figure that is what you have so might as well have the insurance policy to have it if necessary. I don't know if I may need to use underpowered ammo at some point or it gets too dirty to function with the smaller port or maybe too cold and it needs more gas. Should be about 3 weeks out. Shoot me an email and I'll add you to the notification list if you like. Note that we don't advertise the 3 positions pre-drilled for specific configurations and the reason being is that we don't know what the port size is for every barrel out there. We know some of the big ones like the DD. So if you email me what you have, we can have the plates pre-drilled at no additional charge exactly as discussed here. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BCV:
is anyone rocking a LWRC Ultra Compact stock on their MK18? anyone? |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amphibian:You can split the difference in half and go with approximately 10 thousandths instead of 20 thousands and be right at .059 or .063 with a Baby Govnah. PMC bronze may not lock the bolt back unsuppressed but MK262 probably will. This doesn't work in my experience. I've done fairly extensive shooting with Colt 6920 barrels cut down from 16" to 10.3" with no work done to the gas port. So in theory that should put them right between .062 and .064. In my experience with that size, forget about bolt locking back, you can't even expect the weapon to cycle reliably with LC M855. Lots of short stroking (Carbine spring, H2 buffer). Same result even if I drop the buffer down to a standard carbine buffer. If you want something to run reliably unsurpassed, I wouldn't recommend anything smaller than .068. And even then you'll probably have issues with weak ammo. So .070 seems to be the winner. (who woulda thunk Crane knew what they were doing?) I don't claim to be an engineer, but I imagine there's a difference between the gas block port sizes and barrel port sizes in the amounts of pressure too. I'm guessing the plate that has the holes in it for the gas block isn't as thick as a barrel, so even if the holes are the same size, it's just moving through a thin plate vs the barrel wall. I know we're splitting hairs here, but when you play the game of tight tolerances seems like you have to account for it all. My point being maybe .059 - .063 with a Baby Govnah would cycle fine whereas just a barrel with a .059 - .063 hole wouldn't. Thanks for making that video BTW, it's nice to finally see some documented results. I still have some open questions on the reliability of using an adjustable gas block, but I haven't had enough time to look in to the Govnah's design to see if it'd be prone to the same issues adjustable blocks have had in the past. It certainly looks promising though and I'll be researching it for my next build. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryInteresting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… I was thinking the same thing as well when I first saw it.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 3:03:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2014 3:33:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amphibian]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: This doesn't work in my experience. I've done fairly extensive shooting with Colt 6920 barrels cut down from 16" to 10.3" with no work done to the gas port. So in theory that should put them right between .062 and .064. In my experience with that size, forget about bolt locking back, you can't even expect the weapon to cycle reliably with LC M855. Lots of short stroking (Carbine spring, H2 buffer). Same result even if I drop the buffer down to a standard carbine buffer. If you want something to run reliably unsurpassed, I wouldn't recommend anything smaller than .068. And even then you'll probably have issues with weak ammo. So .070 seems to be the winner. (who woulda thunk Crane knew what they were doing?) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By amphibian:You can split the difference in half and go with approximately 10 thousandths instead of 20 thousands and be right at .059 or .063 with a Baby Govnah. PMC bronze may not lock the bolt back unsuppressed but MK262 probably will. This doesn't work in my experience. I've done fairly extensive shooting with Colt 6920 barrels cut down from 16" to 10.3" with no work done to the gas port. So in theory that should put them right between .062 and .064. In my experience with that size, forget about bolt locking back, you can't even expect the weapon to cycle reliably with LC M855. Lots of short stroking (Carbine spring, H2 buffer). Same result even if I drop the buffer down to a standard carbine buffer. If you want something to run reliably unsurpassed, I wouldn't recommend anything smaller than .068. And even then you'll probably have issues with weak ammo. So .070 seems to be the winner. (who woulda thunk Crane knew what they were doing?) I was also basing my recommendations based on my testing documeted at this link:http://micromoa.com/?page_id=855 All 3 of those uppers have 10.5" barrels in them. We tested them with the same ammo (LC M855), BCG and lower (lower had H2 buffer installed, standard power (white) Sprinco spring. Uppers were dry and not lubed for the testing since varying amounts of lube can skew the test results. All 3 ended up locking the bolt back on an empty mag consistently at 3 different port sizes: The top one was .076" The middle one was .063" The bottom one was .070" The middle barrel is CHF....Colt barrels are NOT CHF. DD barrels are CHF. Which is why I would anticipate it working at .063....but there are a lot of variables. I have not done the testing I did referenced above w/ a DD barrel. Colt barrels are traditional rifled. The barrel we sell are using a patented Hybrid Polygonal design and the port sizes are on the small size as well. We typically see the same size ports for our barrels as we do with some of the CHF barrels we have tested.  |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 3:38:42 PM EDT
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couple favorites of mine...
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Posted: 11/4/2014 3:49:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… And a SSF trigger, based on trigger pins, and a M16A2 or M4 lower...engraved AUTO over BURST, I assume...
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:05:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… What I found shocking was the bracelet...to each their own! |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:15:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalR:
What I found shocking was the bracelet...to each their own! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalR:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… What I found shocking was the bracelet...to each their own! Pretty sure that's a KIA/memorial bracelet...
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:18:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalR:
What I found shocking was the bracelet...to each their own! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalR:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… What I found shocking was the bracelet...to each their own! Your ignorance is far more shocking than either. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:49:22 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:51:56 PM EDT
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this isnt airsoft is it??
if not..appears to be a L119.. 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:53:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hatexoc:
<a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg</a> No offense, but I find this a really odd build. Why go through all the work to put a custom engraved NoDak A1 lower on a CQBR upper that should have an M4 lower? |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:56:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#37]
Thanks! Found em. Interesting to see standard PEQs. And a BAD lever.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 5:00:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fiyero]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Did you happen to know the original source for the top 2? Pretty sure they came from a Facebook page but was unable to locate which one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By Moses_J:
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/mosesjg/10556332_597094597061770_6273984223202787124_n_zps563b028e.jpg http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/mosesjg/1604926_597094613728435_739888182150440747_n_zpsa7c470fe.jpg http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/mosesjg/10417014_595815257189704_8639450222878733757_n_zpsd059f936.jpg http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/mosesjg/1016933_595815243856372_4245757972348025561_n_zps6a05d4e1.jpg Did you happen to know the original source for the top 2? Pretty sure they came from a Facebook page but was unable to locate which one. They're all from 3rd's Facebook. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 5:06:19 PM EDT
[#39]
KAC triple tap kosher on a mod0?
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Posted: 11/4/2014 5:09:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-Ryan21]
[#40]
Is the KAC RAS the correct handguard for a Mod 0?
ETA - looks like a KAC RIS - first page is a charm. 
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Posted: 11/4/2014 5:38:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
No offense, but I find this a really odd build. Why go through all the work to put a custom engraved NoDak A1 lower on a CQBR upper that should have an M4 lower? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By hatexoc:
<a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg</a> No offense, but I find this a really odd build. Why go through all the work to put a custom engraved NoDak A1 lower on a CQBR upper that should have an M4 lower? its probably suppose to be a mk18?? |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:30:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
No offense, but I find this a really odd build. Why go through all the work to put a custom engraved NoDak A1 lower on a CQBR upper that should have an M4 lower? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By hatexoc:
<a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/C09690ED-313E-49AA-9281-24595F730A0C_zpsoc9vrkfx.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/D38B7E19-7EE3-4340-B6F3-A9C4BC468E02_zpsuhrhhk2w.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/hatexoc/media/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii640/hatexoc/B047B441-5F01-486D-A0FE-9176EEDC1859_zps1b4lcds0.jpg</a> No offense, but I find this a really odd build. Why go through all the work to put a custom engraved NoDak A1 lower on a CQBR upper that should have an M4 lower? There are several old M16/M16A1 lowers still in circulation that have been used as foundations for this system. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:49:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
KAC triple tap kosher on a mod0? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
KAC triple tap kosher on a mod0? Negative. That said, it does accept the correct suppressor for a CQBR, so if you're going to run the NT4 can then it could work. But if you're going for clone correctness, no. Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Is the KAC RAS the correct handguard for a Mod 0? ETA - looks like a KAC RIS - first page is a charm. RIS = Mk 18, RAS = CQBR. The RAS is an "upgrade" to the RIS though and easier to find so a lot of people use them on Mk 18 builds and they are visually 99% correct. Originally Posted By MattNificent:
its probably suppose to be a mk18?? But then it'd have the wrong Aimpoint mount, stock, grip and Mk 18's don't use suppressors. Looks clearly to be a CQBR build but with a grey A1 lower. Just found it odd. Still badass gun. Originally Posted By warpig8654:There are several old M16/M16A1 lowers still in circulation that have been used as foundations for this system. But grey? And seems like the M4 lowers are far more common, and certainly on the civilian side much easier to come by. Just saying, seems odd to go out of the way to do that. *shrug*. Not that it matters, not my gun, and looks like a shooter. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:49:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… I was going to say the same thing. COTS purchase maybe? |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:51:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
I was going to say the same thing. COTS purchase maybe? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… I was going to say the same thing. COTS purchase maybe? Not sure. I don't really even understand what an OPMOD EXPS3 is exactly. Seems like the OPMOD EXPS2 is an EXPS2 build on the EXPS3 chasis but without the NV capability of the 3. But an OPMOD EXPS3? I don't really understand what that is or what the point of it is even though I see them for sale. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:57:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Not sure. I don't really even understand what an OPMOD EXPS3 is exactly. Seems like the OPMOD EXPS2 is an EXPS2 build on the EXPS3 chasis but without the NV capability of the 3. But an OPMOD EXPS3? I don't really understand what that is or what the point of it is even though I see them for sale. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… I was going to say the same thing. COTS purchase maybe? Not sure. I don't really even understand what an OPMOD EXPS3 is exactly. Seems like the OPMOD EXPS2 is an EXPS2 build on the EXPS3 chasis but without the NV capability of the 3. But an OPMOD EXPS3? I don't really understand what that is or what the point of it is even though I see them for sale. As far as I knew "OPMOD" refers to systems that are only available from Optics Planet. I'm not really sure if there is even a difference between it and a standard EXPS-3, but it's definitely Optics Planet's "thing." |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 7:02:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: As far as I knew "OPMOD" refers to systems that are only available from Optics Planet. I'm not really sure if there is even a difference between it and a standard EXPS-3, but it's definitely Optics Planet's "thing." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RJeff21: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By RJeff21: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Interesting to see the OPMOD EXPS on there… I was going to say the same thing. COTS purchase maybe? Not sure. I don't really even understand what an OPMOD EXPS3 is exactly. Seems like the OPMOD EXPS2 is an EXPS2 build on the EXPS3 chasis but without the NV capability of the 3. But an OPMOD EXPS3? I don't really understand what that is or what the point of it is even though I see them for sale. As far as I knew "OPMOD" refers to systems that are only available from Optics Planet. I'm not really sure if there is even a difference between it and a standard EXPS-3, but it's definitely Optics Planet's "thing." Yep - OPMOD is exclusive to Optics Planet.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 7:21:55 PM EDT
[#48]
Does anyone's RIS II have the Savannah, GA markings instead of Black Creek? I was looking at mine today and noticed it was different. Date code on it says '08. I never realized DD produced the RIS II while they were still in Savannah.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 7:42:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: secretwheelman]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4: Does anyone's RIS II have the Savannah, GA markings instead of Black Creek? I was looking at mine today and noticed it was different. Date code on it says '08. I never realized DD produced the RIS II while they were still in Savannah. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 7:46:15 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
I've seen an earlier RIS II FSP, with holes in the front-lower rail section, that was marked Savannah. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Does anyone's RIS II have the Savannah, GA markings instead of Black Creek? I was looking at mine today and noticed it was different. Date code on it says '08. I never realized DD produced the RIS II while they were still in Savannah. Mine is a standard Non-FSP, and I believe the bottom piece is the standard kind. I will check when I get home. The color also seems a lot lighter and more matte than the newer ones. |
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