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Posted: 9/28/2009 10:01:42 PM EST

[#1]

US Army SF 2009 training, note MK 18 (M4 CQBR Block 2) Photo by S. Sgt. Michael R. Noggle, USASOC News Service:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/Hispeed217/Small%20Arms/SFMK18.jpg

Posted: 9/29/2009 5:21:27 AM EST

[#2]

Quoted:
US Army SF 2009 training, note MK 18 (M4 CQBR Block 2) Photo by S. Sgt. Michael R. Noggle, USASOC News Service:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/Hispeed217/Small%20Arms/SFMK18.jpg

Picture isn't showing up.

ETA: Nevermind, now it is! Nice shot!

ETA2: A couple interesting things I noted in the picture:

It does indeed appear to be a MK18 MOD1 with the SOPMOD Block II accessories. Though I wonder if it is a CQBR upper of some type dropped onto an M4A1 lower.

I noted he is using PMAGs which is outstanding to see.

Still using the Dieter CQD sling setup, you can see the front sling loop on the right side of the weapon which is interesting. However the rear sling attachment point is not the Dieter. In fact I don't recognize what it is off the bat.

SOPMOD stock is missing and a regular Colt M4 stock is in it's place. I wonder if that is an individual operator decision or if Army SOCOM doesn't get the SOPMOD.

I don't see what type of white light he is running. I see the ATPIAL but I don't see the new Insight VBL.

Looks like KAC front and rear sights. Rear is the flip up 300m (NSN: 1005-01-449-6306), front is the standard KAC M4. Personally these are my favorite flip up sights out there, but they are not cheap for us civilians.

About all I can tell from the pic...

Posted: 9/29/2009 6:04:54 AM EST

[#3]

I believe that does have a CQD receiver sling swivel. If I am not mistaken, I can barely make out the loop on the right side.

There are Army units fielding the SOPMOD, so I would think that if the armory or the individual wanted one, they could get one.

Posted: 9/29/2009 6:11:17 AM EST

[#4]

Quoted:
I believe that does have a CQD receiver sling swivel. If I am not mistaken, I can barely make out the loop on the right side.

There are Army units fielding the SOPMOD, so I would think that if the armory or the individual wanted one, they could get one.

Yeah I had one in the 101st because I was using an ACOG in a pseudo-DMR role with a suppressed M4. Worked very well with the ACOG...

Posted: 9/29/2009 7:45:49 AM EST

[#5]

Quoted:
Not a PDW its a SR-22 (select fire suppressed .22LR)

Kevin,

Could you break down the parts on it for us - it is a neat looking gun.

I see URX, PDW grip and stock, KAC hand stop, and rail covers. What else is on there?

Spooky

Posted: 9/29/2009 4:53:32 PM EST

[#6]

where would someone get those KAC sights in FDE ?

Posted: 9/30/2009 8:14:43 AM EST

[#7]

Posted: 9/30/2009 11:21:26 AM EST

[#8]

I've got these uppers for sale here

Built one of these for Costa as well

Posted: 9/30/2009 12:09:10 PM EST

[#9]

I whish I could buy on of these larue handguard !

Posted: 9/30/2009 12:55:22 PM EST

[#10]

Quoted:
I've got these uppers for sale here

Nice!

Will a cut down FSB fit under the DD Mk18 RIS II?

Posted: 9/30/2009 1:00:14 PM EST

[#11]

Quoted:
I whish I could buy on of these larue handguard !

Those are not LaRue, they are the Daniel Defense MK18 RIS II.

Posted: 9/30/2009 1:30:09 PM EST

[#12]

Lapsus from my part. Sorry. thx for the correction.

I obviously intended DD..

Posted: 9/30/2009 5:37:59 PM EST

[#13]

Quoted:
where would someone get those KAC sights in FDE ?

I have one front sight and a couple 600m rears in tan, and I am trying HARD to get more to sell with these uppers. But as you can guess, it isnt easy at all. And no, I am not selling mine

Posted: 9/30/2009 5:40:22 PM EST

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've got these uppers for sale here

Nice!

Will a cut down FSB fit under the DD Mk18 RIS II?

Sure.

Posted: 9/30/2009 6:00:37 PM EST

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
where would someone get those KAC sights in FDE ?

I have one front sight and a couple 600m rears in tan, and I am trying HARD to get more to sell with these uppers. But as you can guess, it isnt easy at all. And no, I am not selling mine

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/dr_mers/IMG_0381.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/dr_mers/IMG_0386.jpg

wow, i want that front sight so bad for my SPR
ETA, or the SBR i am building with my MK18 RIS

Posted: 9/30/2009 6:24:58 PM EST

[#16]

Chances are quite slim I will be able to come up with any more. Despite the fact that I know this, I keep asking and putting feelers out to see if I can come up with any more. I wont quit...

I used my front, and one of the rears for a 6.8 SPR build:

Posted: 10/2/2009 7:13:13 PM EST

[#17]

PWS is making an M4QD mount? That's interesting.

Posted: 10/2/2009 7:33:08 PM EST

[#18]

Quoted:
PWS is making an M4QD mount? That's interesting.

We thought so too.

Posted: 10/5/2009 6:22:55 PM EST

[#19]

What SureFire light is depicted in this pic?

Posted: 10/5/2009 6:36:14 PM EST

[#20]

M962 with SW02 clicker tailcap, I believe.

Posted: 10/11/2009 6:30:21 AM EST

[#21]

Quoted:
M962 with SW02 clicker tailcap, I believe.

Right on.

Posted: 10/11/2009 10:09:25 AM EST

[#22]

New-arguy, what break is this? It looks to be similar length to the A2 FH.

Posted: 10/11/2009 2:07:29 PM EST

[#23]

Quoted:
New-arguy, what break is this? It looks to be similar length to the A2 FH.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/3969493602_f9e96c7854_b.jpg

ooh, ooh.... i can answer this one.

it's a PWS

FSC556 for the QDSS-NT4 Suppressor

as seen HERE

Posted: 10/11/2009 3:48:01 PM EST

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
US Army SF 2009 training, note MK 18 (M4 CQBR Block 2) Photo by S. Sgt. Michael R. Noggle, USASOC News Service:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/Hispeed217/Small%20Arms/SFMK18.jpg

Picture isn't showing up.

ETA: Nevermind, now it is! Nice shot!

ETA2: A couple interesting things I noted in the picture:

It does indeed appear to be a MK18 MOD1 with the SOPMOD Block II accessories. Though I wonder if it is a CQBR upper of some type dropped onto an M4A1 lower.

I noted he is using PMAGs which is outstanding to see.

Still using the Dieter CQD sling setup, you can see the front sling loop on the right side of the weapon which is interesting. However the rear sling attachment point is not the Dieter. In fact I don't recognize what it is off the bat.

SOPMOD stock is missing and a regular Colt M4 stock is in it's place. I wonder if that is an individual operator decision or if Army SOCOM doesn't get the SOPMOD.

I don't see what type of white light he is running. I see the ATPIAL but I don't see the new Insight VBL.

Looks like KAC front and rear sights. Rear is the flip up 300m (NSN: 1005-01-449-6306), front is the standard KAC M4. Personally these are my favorite flip up sights out there, but they are not cheap for us civilians.

About all I can tell from the pic...

To shine some more light on the picture.

The upper is a stand alone, SOCOM issue item, dropped on to an M4A1 lower. This upper does not replace the standard 14.5in uppers, but serves as an additional extra.

On the box they are shipped in, the barrel length is listed at 10.3in. It even appears that the barrels may be cut down M4 barrels, based on the Colt date code behind the gas port and the white stamp on the barrel near the delta ring.

The upper receivers seem to be assembled with whatever parts are lying around as some have the latest style of forward assist while others exhibit the old tear drop style. One constant is that the bolts are new.

As for the SOPMOD stock, Army SOCOM has not instituted an effort to replace the older stocks with the SOPMOD. They can be ordered thru the supply system but it is up to individual teams to figure that out, and most have not. With that, if received it is still up to the individual.

Rear sights are not issued with the uppers. While some KAC rear sights are still hanging around, the MATEC BUIS is the current issue.

Posted: 10/15/2009 5:55:58 PM EST

[#25]

Really pisses me off that this thread keeps getting dropped off of my notifications.

Posted: 10/15/2009 6:33:24 PM EST

[#26]

Quoted:

To shine some more light on the picture...

Thanks for the gouge, good info.

Posted: 10/16/2009 12:35:02 AM EST

[#27]

Mine's going ahead.. still miss a Sopmod stock though.. (budget related ;) )

Posted: 10/16/2009 5:02:11 AM EST

[#28]

Quoted:
To shine some more light on the picture.

The upper is a stand alone, SOCOM issue item, dropped on to an M4A1 lower. This upper does not replace the standard 14.5in uppers, but serves as an additional extra.

Interesting. This would have been extremely useful to an 11B during my time in Iraq. Being able to swap an ACOG equipped 14.5" upper for a 10.3" Aimpoint upper based on METT-T would have been a nice capability.

On the box they are shipped in, the barrel length is listed at 10.3in. It even appears that the barrels may be cut down M4 barrels, based on the Colt date code behind the gas port and the white stamp on the barrel near the delta ring.

The upper receivers seem to be assembled with whatever parts are lying around as some have the latest style of forward assist while others exhibit the old tear drop style. One constant is that the bolts are new.

I think that the barrels are manufactured as 10.3" and not cut down from 14.5". I say this because a factory 10.3" Colt barrel is available for purchase to civilians so I would imagine that it was born out of the manufacturing requirement for the CQBR program.

As for the SOPMOD stock, Army SOCOM has not instituted an effort to replace the older stocks with the SOPMOD. They can be ordered thru the supply system but it is up to individual teams to figure that out, and most have not. With that, if received it is still up to the individual.

Whats odd is that my unit (Infantry Battalion in the 101st ABN) was able to get me a SOPMOD stock in 2006 to put on my M4.

Rear sights are not issued with the uppers. While some KAC rear sights are still hanging around, the MATEC BUIS is the current issue.

This makes sense. MATEC BUIS always worked well for me.

All in all great info, thanks for chiming in! Much is as I suspected.

Posted: 10/16/2009 7:40:38 AM EST

[#29]

The first 10.3" barrel where cut down M4 barrels. Colt then went to a production 10.3" barrel

Posted: 10/16/2009 5:52:23 PM EST

[#30]

Well it's started...

Still need to pick up an M2, an M951, and eventually an NT4 QDSS. Man though, it feels great with the T1 and the M600C. I think I may swap out the LaRue mount for a DD mount to save weight and swap the M600 for an M300. Weight savings are addictive.

Posted: 10/17/2009 6:07:40 AM EST

[#31]

Quoted:
you could always chop your carry handle for a cleaner "lmt buis " like look

yep you can roll your own

Posted: 10/17/2009 6:14:55 AM EST

[#32]

Quoted:
Well it's started...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/decodeddiesel/MK18SBR001CR2.jpg

Still need to pick up an M2, an M951, and eventually an NT4 QDSS. Man though, it feels great with the T1 and the M600C. I think I may swap out the LaRue mount for a DD mount to save weight and swap the M600 for an M300. Weight savings are addictive.

Damn thats NICE!

Posted: 10/17/2009 7:09:41 AM EST

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well it's started...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/decodeddiesel/MK18SBR001CR2.jpg

Still need to pick up an M2, an M951, and eventually an NT4 QDSS. Man though, it feels great with the T1 and the M600C. I think I may swap out the LaRue mount for a DD mount to save weight and swap the M600 for an M300. Weight savings are addictive.

Damn thats NICE!

Thanks!

Posted: 10/18/2009 9:01:43 PM EST

[#34]

My favorite gun. Magpul BAD lever, MOE grip, MOE trigger guard, and PRI Gas Buster w/ combat latch inbound.

Posted: 10/19/2009 5:29:50 AM EST

[#35]

Quoted:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f191/bluejames19/IMG_1450.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f191/bluejames19/IMG_1453.jpg

My favorite gun. Magpul BAD lever, MOE grip, MOE trigger guard, and PRI Gas Buster w/ combat latch inbound.

Nice!

Here's a picture of my MK18 getting her first workout! Such a sweet shooter!

Posted: 10/24/2009 3:39:37 PM EST

[#36]

What length free float handguard is that DD? What length do most people use on a 10 1/2 bbl to provide rails all the way to the muzzle device without going past it? Thanks.

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where's the best place to buy the RISII these days?

Rainer Arms, HendersonDefense, and direct from DD.

Posted: 10/25/2009 1:57:56 PM EST

[#37]

Quoted:
What length free float handguard is that DD? What length do most people use on a 10 1/2 bbl to provide rails all the way to the muzzle device without going past it? Thanks.

Quoted:

Quoted:
Where's the best place to buy the RISII these days?

Rainer Arms, HendersonDefense, and direct from DD.

That's a DD MK18 RIS II & it's 9.5"

Posted: 10/26/2009 10:28:16 AM EST

[#38]

Not having paid attention to the Mk18 before, I found myself intrigued when I saw the picture in last month's American Rifleman.

I have a complete flat-top upper lying around with M4 RAS and a permanetly attached Phantom on a 14.5" barrel. Would it be so easy to make one by having it cut back to 10.3", add an A2 flash suppressor, SOPMOD stock and LMT rear sight?

Posted: 10/26/2009 10:41:46 AM EST

[#39]

Quoted:
Not having paid attention to the Mk18 before, I found myself intrigued when I saw the picture in last month's American Rifleman.

I have a complete flat-top upper lying around with M4 RAS and a permanetly attached Phantom on a 14.5" barrel. Would it be so easy to make one by having it cut back to 10.3", add an A2 flash suppressor, SOPMOD stock and LMT rear sight?

If you can have a SBR in your state yes. In my state however, my version will have a 14.5" barrel. Also dont forget your Surfire M951 flashlight, Aimpoint/Eotech/ACOG, and sub the A2 for a KAC QD flash hider....then, naturally, you will need to get the KAC M4 suppressor to finish of the build.

Posted: 10/26/2009 11:39:36 AM EST

[#40]

This might help:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlUV5Ds9a1C9dDZLcVhNZkVTeXBDdEdGVkVyYnkyWWc&hl=en

Posted: 10/26/2009 11:55:31 AM EST

[#41]

Quoted:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f191/bluejames19/IMG_1450.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f191/bluejames19/IMG_1453.jpg

My favorite gun. Magpul BAD lever, MOE grip, MOE trigger guard, and PRI Gas Buster w/ combat latch inbound.

Sexy.

Posted: 10/27/2009 5:53:34 AM EST

[#42]

Quoted:
Not having paid attention to the Mk18 before, I found myself intrigued when I saw the picture in last month's American Rifleman.

I have a complete flat-top upper lying around with M4 RAS and a permanetly attached Phantom on a 14.5" barrel. Would it be so easy to make one by having it cut back to 10.3", add an A2 flash suppressor, SOPMOD stock and LMT rear sight?

Any idea what the overall length (stock extended) of such a set-up is? I am working on the Form 1.

Posted: 10/27/2009 6:30:24 AM EST

[#43]

28.5" is what I used on my Form 1.

Posted: 10/27/2009 6:31:48 AM EST

[#44]

Quoted:
28.5" is what I used on my Form 1.

Many thanks!

Posted: 10/27/2009 6:33:47 AM EST

[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not having paid attention to the Mk18 before, I found myself intrigued when I saw the picture in last month's American Rifleman.

I have a complete flat-top upper lying around with M4 RAS and a permanetly attached Phantom on a 14.5" barrel. Would it be so easy to make one by having it cut back to 10.3", add an A2 flash suppressor, SOPMOD stock and LMT rear sight?

Any idea what the overall length (stock extended) of such a set-up is? I am working on the Form 1.

I believe it is 29" with the stock extended, BUT it depends on the stock that you use. The LMT SOPMOD stock is longer than just the CAR stock by about 1 inch or so.

Posted: 10/27/2009 6:38:32 AM EST

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not having paid attention to the Mk18 before, I found myself intrigued when I saw the picture in last month's American Rifleman.

I have a complete flat-top upper lying around with M4 RAS and a permanetly attached Phantom on a 14.5" barrel. Would it be so easy to make one by having it cut back to 10.3", add an A2 flash suppressor, SOPMOD stock and LMT rear sight?

Any idea what the overall length (stock extended) of such a set-up is? I am working on the Form 1.

I believe it is 29" with the stock extended, BUT it depends on the stock that you use. The LMT SOPMOD stock is longer than just the CAR stock by about 1 inch or so.

Hmmm...for the time being, it will have a standard CAR stock, with the intent of upgrading to the SOPMOD.