Elcan Specter DR SOCOM model with piggyback Dr. Optik

This is my play on the MK18. I couldn't wait for the stamp so I went the pistol lower way. SBR later.

Being in WA state, I was forced to go with a pistol build MK-18 clone.  

About the only other thing I can do now is AOW it and add the vert fore grip.

Coffee cup on the table, has to be a CHIEF nearby....LOL  
Thanks for the pics

LAV and a MK18

my take on the MOD 1

LMT 10.5"
YHM low pro gas block
DD MK18 rail
Vltor FH
LaRue/Troy sights
TD stub VFG
BlackHawk FL/LaRue mount
DD sling mount

Bushy lower
KNS pins
MOE FDE trigger guard
TD grip
Vltor MOD stock
BAD
ASAP (may not keep it)


T1 on order

Mark 18 clone in 5.45x39



USSA-1

oh how nice.... you going to be running that in your carbine classes from now on?  makes me want to chop my barrel.....

My mod 1

MARS sight?

Yes.  It is not bad, but overall I am not impressed.

Not worth MSRP.

yeah   and no   co witness at all it seems  


does the laser on it work good?

My version of it right now..

Still need to put my hands on a LMT sopmod stock though..

here is my start

Is that a gen-u-wine factory FDE KAC front sight? Do you have any for me?
Dustin

Looks good! Why did you go with the taupe KAC panels/foregrip and tan grip?
Dustin

KAC RECCE, I want one for MK18 DD RIS II build.

Here's mine.  Built it a year ago.  Finally gracing you all with it's presence LOL:


















































































 

I don't get running two red dots, but homeboy looks cooler than me.

Very Nice!  Don't see Mod 1 clones too often!

Can someone list the specs of the mk18.  Wanting to do a build, when my gun gets in.  I apoligize if its already in the other 18 pages.  Its torture to look through all that while waiting for my sbr to come in

Mk18 Block 2 Upper:

USGI (Colt or FN) flat-top upper receiver group (no carrying handle) and BCG
USGI, USGI with PRI combat latch, or PRI M84 Gas Buster charging handle
Colt 10.3" 1:7 5.56 barrel
Daniel Defense RIS II Mk18 in FDE
KAC Mk12 Mod1 or PRI low profile gas block (NOT SURE)
KAC QD flash hider and NT4 suppressor in Taupe

SOPMOD Block 2 Accessories:

AN/PEQ-15 (Insight ATPIAL - visible laser, IR laser / illuminator)
SU-233/PVS (Insight M3X - visible light)
SU-238/PVS (Insight M6X - visible light and laser)
TangoDown VFG in FDE

SOPMOD Block 2 Optics:

SU-230/PVS (Elcan Specter DR - variable magnification optic with Docter red dot)
SU-231/PEQ (Eotech 553.A65 - red dot reflex optic)
SU-232/PAS (Insight CNVD-T - clip-on thermal image intensifier device)
SU-237/PVS (Trijicon ACOG TA01ECOS or TA31ECOS - magnified day optic with Docter red dot)
AN/PVS-17A PIP (L-3 M955 - magnified night vision optic, product improvement kit, with Docter red dot)
AN/PVS-24 (L-3 M2124 - clip-on night vision device)

Notes for clone builds: I do not believe a BUIS has been specified for Block II, but the KAC front / 300m rear, Matech, and LMT front / rear could all be considered "correct". Since the Aimpoint CompM4/M4s are both the current M68 CCO, those (and the earlier Block I CompM2 with Wilcox mount) would be acceptable to use instead of the Eotech. The Eotech 551 and 552 have been common in theater, as are the TA01NSN and TA31F ACOGs. Other Block I accessories like the KAC VFG and SureFire M962 can be used in place of their Block II replacements. Stocks are entirely user preference, but probably the most commonly seen are the standard Colt Gen II, LMT SOPMOD, and Magpul CTR - use a 4-position receiver extension for a more accurate clone. The Mk18 Mod0 uses the Dieter CQD one-point sling and mount, so I would use that as your sling setup. As for rail panels, use the ladder panels that come with the RIS II (Ergo), KAC, or TangoDown. Use USGI dry-flim 30 or 20-rd mags (not teflon-coated), Magpul PMAGs, or HK high reliability steel mags. Finally, the lower parts group (including the A2 pistol grip) should not be swapped for anything else.

For cost reasons, the KAC QD flash hider can be replaced by the standard A2 hider. One can forego the pricey Colt barrel for a Daniel Defense 10.3 (a 10.5 from LMT or Sabre would also be great choices, .2" is very hard to notice). Since the gas block is mostly hidden, most any steel low-profile block would work.

Let me know of any errors or omissions - I am not a first-hand source but I'm pretty confident in my research. In the end, the most sensible thing to do is to make the rifle and gear work for you, but some people want as-close-as-possible clones, so the above is meant to help to that end, or less so if you choose.

Complete Mk18s would be built on M16A1 lowers. Some Mk18s were uppers added to M4 lowers. I have also seen Type III gen I stocks on Mk18s in addition to what you have listed.
Dustin

yes sir its the real deal.  there are only 8 KAC FDE sights in civvy hands "thats 4 or so front and 4 or so rear".  they were a mil contract only item.  i only have the one front but i might move it for the right deal as its hard as hell to find a rear.

Where to find the the CQD Rear sling mount?

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=598

Here's a new one...refinished in Duracoat Magpul FDE:

Looks cool, but is there a particular reason why your flash hider is on upside down?

I did this refinish job for a buddy...and that's how he wanted his flash hider...different strokes!

If he was a friend I would have advised him otherwise

Exactly doesn't he know basic physics? They put it up for a reason, by putting it down your amplifying muzzle climb by a lot.

Tell your 'buddy' that he knows nothing about firearms.

I am sure it is a big misunderstanding, maybe he does not want the flash to "come up" and take his night vision or something .  Anyway, I am sure we have all done things that may seem "dumb" to a more knowledgable person in the past and then been corrected.  I know I have, I also got alot of help and usually without getting my balls busted too much in the process.  I would like to know the logic behind this setup though.
Nice rig and finish otherwise....

Getting there...

I seriously doubt that.

I've seen pics of high-speed outfitted carbines with them turned sideways before, and always just assumed they were installed that way on purpose to not interfere with some accessories.  Maybe your friend has that in mind for something he's going to put on it?

...and doing a fine job of it!

Yup - the last time I shot a 10.5" full auto with an A2, the downward force almost got my foot shot off.

I'd say you're there...looks awesome!

Needs a KAC NT-4 can to be finished.  

i would hate to be shooting prone with the flash hider upside down.  I can imagine the dust cloud it would make

this is the only reason that there closed on the bottom,  it has nothing to do with muzzle climb

Hey, its the owner gun to do with as he pleases.

Perhaps he has a good reason as well, for example he may use a NOD which autoshuts off when exposed to the short barrel muzzle flash.
Or he likes the look of it.  What ever the reason, it not as silly as being an armchair commando criticizing him on it.

true story,  i would never do it however its possible that he is trying to avoid muzzle flash.

Is it just me or does it seem like a majority of the pics of Seals with their MK18's they are mostly running Eotechs?? I thought that they weren't as good as Aimpoint???

It's all subjective, really. SEALs can chose whichever mission specific equipment they may need in order to complete the mission.

As close as I can get.

Great looking rifles. Maybe it was in here and I missed it but what range are you guys getting from these rifles? Meaning at what distance can you do ...maybe 2" 5 shot group? I know these are meant to CQB rifles BUT if you had to do longer shots ...how far could you do accurate repeated shots?

Note––not knocking these short rifles...and the 2" group was just something I pulled out of the air.

Im pretty sure energy would be very low out there, but I can easely make 5" groups at 300m, prone.

http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac61/gstuffnow/01LMTCQBR.jpg