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Posted: 10/14/2021 1:42:51 PM EDT
This is a project we shelved several years ago, but its back on now with several upgrades. Here is a pic of the long barrel version that is about 1 generation from production units. We still have lots to do so I expect slight changes here and there. One of several upgrades includes a switch to HK style take down pins for easy disassembly a better handguard and rear stock. There is still work to be done on that rear stock.
We have a short barrel version on the way, I think I might like it more, but will not have pics for another week or so.   |
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Posted: 10/14/2021 1:52:37 PM EDT
[#1]
thanks for doing this....
good luck with it and looking forward for when it comes out. |
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Posted: 10/14/2021 3:29:56 PM EDT
[#2]
That is awesome. Are you guys making it in rifle calibers too?
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Posted: 10/14/2021 9:02:27 PM EDT
[#3]
That's pretty damn cool. What mags is it feeding from?
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:41:22 AM EDT
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We think it can be done in larger calibers, possibly anything that can feed from an AR mag. Cant scale up to 308.
These first ones are using the AR15 9mm magazines and standard mag catch. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:31:36 AM EDT
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Takes AR-15 triggers and safety?
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Posted: 10/16/2021 9:18:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Takes AR-15 triggers and safety? Yes, it is using the AR trigger group and safety. Drop in packs should work fine. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 1:19:25 PM EDT
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What do you mean by 9mm ar15 mags? Like colt smg mags?
Any idea what the msrp will be? |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 4:55:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean by 9mm ar15 mags? Like colt smg mags? Any idea what the msrp will be? https://www.troupsystems.com/product/fg-9-carbine/ $875 according to website. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 8:56:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean by 9mm ar15 mags? Like colt smg mags? Any idea what the msrp will be? They are the SMG types. We have all the popular ones on hand too and they all seem pretty good. Most appear to be made by a company called ASC and are rebranded. The tan ones are my favorite, but the paint scratches off pretty easily, thats what it in the pics above. |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 10:11:28 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm in as a repeat customer.
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Posted: 10/20/2021 5:07:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Very nice!
Will make a good companion for this one and the forthcoming Type 1. I like the FG42  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 5:56:03 PM EDT
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Waiting list? Or can I just send you an envelope full of cash. If we can’t trust you guys, then there is nobody left.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 2:33:08 PM EDT
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We are making a list only, still months out but we do expect around late FEB to start shipping. Thats how long we have to wait for barrels these days.
Someday I will get one of those Repro FG42s..... I may have to splurge regardless if they come out with the Type 1 and probably easier than trying to get one of those Airsoft ones. The short barrel version should be ready for pics later today or tomorrow. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 3:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are making a list only, still months out but we do expect around late FEB to start shipping. Thats how long we have to wait for barrels these days. Someday I will get one of those Repro FG42s..... I may have to splurge regardless if they come out with the Type 1 and probably easier than trying to get one of those Airsoft ones. The short barrel version should be ready for pics later today or tomorrow. The 7.92x57 Type 1s are already in production; I'm just waiting for the .308 Type 1, to go with my .308 Type 2. M-14 mags are a whole lot more readily available and cheaper than ZB-30 mags. But I'm definitely in for your version. I assume the the magazine choice is firm, so I'm off to start finding Colt 9mm mags. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 4:05:59 PM EDT
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We are locked in for production with the ar15 9mm mags for now.
However the entire mag well can be removed and other mags be used. If we adapt to a pistol mag, we can swap feed ramps too, as those require a different profile. The feed ramp is attached to the receiver, not the adapter. Initially we had HK Mp5 mags and Sterling mags but like the look and availability of the AR15s. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 4:09:36 PM EDT
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pretty cool. How much of this is steel vs plastic. Kinda hard to tell by the photo.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 4:14:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pretty cool. How much of this is steel vs plastic. Kinda hard to tell by the photo. Every black part you see in the photo is 3d printed plastic.... just for the NASGW show(except the pistol grip and rear stock). However there is no plastic on the real deal, its old school wood and metal. The receiver and bottom rail are already in production, but I think we are going to revise some of the tooling for the Gen 2s( no real cosmetic change, just a bit more rigid receiver) |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 4:16:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every black part you see in the photo is 3d printed plastic.... just for the NASGW show(except the pistol grip and rear stock). However there is no plastic on the real deal, its old school wood and metal. The receiver and bottom rail are already in production, but I think we are going to revise some of the tooling for the Gen 2s( no real cosmetic change, just a bit more rigid receiver) Cool. So will the possible caliber / mag conversions be user swappable or will this have to go back to yall? |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 4:42:54 PM EDT
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The mag well can be swapped in the field.
Barrels are threaded in with a 3/4-17 standard thread but barrels are usually in tight and need a barrel/receiver vise. I wish we could use a Savage lock nut system but there is no room. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 6:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The mag well can be swapped in the field. Barrels are threaded in with a 3/4-17 standard thread but barrels are usually in tight and need a barrel/receiver vise. I wish we could use a Savage lock nut system but there is no room. 10-4 I find what y’all are doing very interesting. For some reason think I’d want a 556 version that takes nato mags |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 8:55:08 AM EDT
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I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on.
If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 6:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on. If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. Sounds fantastic! |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 7:07:26 PM EDT
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8mm FG42 is my grail gun.
Can you even get those anymore? |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 10:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find the idea of an FG in 5.56 very neat and its not a problem putting a mag well for an AR15 mag on this. Its going to take a good bit more design work, but I already know how to make it work. Will play with it after we get settled in with the FG and something else we are working on. If your a fan of classic military style firearms, we do have something in 5.56(multi caliber) coming out very soon too. Sorry no pics on that one for awhile. Cool will be glad to see it. Keep up the great work. |
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Posted: 10/26/2021 10:40:52 AM EDT
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This looks awesome! I'm set on AR 9mm mags and have plenty of UZI mags I could convert as well...but Sterling or Suomi mags would be great because of their ease of loading. Although the curved Sterling would look a little more out of place and not as "correct" in shape.
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Posted: 10/26/2021 11:00:46 AM EDT
[#26]
That is absolutely badass.
Didn’t you guys have a 5.56 bullpup you were working on years ago? |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 9:19:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is absolutely badass. Didn’t you guys have a 5.56 bullpup you were working on years ago? Its funny you bring that up, I cant say more for about a month or two. We had a rather good showing at NASGW and it looks like different distributors will get different mag platforms. Were not sure on all the different types yet. Were also getting much better support in place for the new rifles, so things happen smoother and faster. We also met the folks who run UTG and they have some new fantastic bipods that for whatever reason seem to have been designed for this rifle. Those will be a direct option with the carbines. |
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Posted: 11/8/2021 3:11:47 PM EDT
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Here is the new shorty version. The bottom rail does get shortened on it, overall its shorter than an AR15 shorty with the stock extended. The handguards are not the true color-problem with the camera. We are going to change the handguards to walnut and the profile of the rear stock a bit, should have that done next week along with slight changes to the trigger pack-then off to production.
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Posted: 11/8/2021 3:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the new shorty version. The bottom rail does get shortened on it, overall its shorter than an AR15 shorty with the stock extended. The handguards are not the true color-problem with the camera. https://www.troupsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_E4253-768x355.jpg That's cool. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 12:07:02 AM EDT
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Visions of Binary or FR danced in my head.
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Posted: 11/12/2021 8:49:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/18/2021 3:58:09 PM EDT
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What is this, why haven't I seen anything about this before, and when and where can I get one? I didn't even know I wanted something like this.
 Also, can it be made to accept other types of 9mm magazines, like CZ scorpion mags? |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:17:30 PM EDT
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CZ mags should not be a problem, I think we have some and will double check. The mag well and separate feed ramp are removable, to allow just about any mag to be used. HK Ump mags are the exception, they are just too wide.
Were just about ready to move it from R&D to pre-production samples. Running into delays with some items. Pushing for a Feb 2022 release date on the first gen... full tooling will not be ready until March 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 7:30:29 PM EDT
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Is this the same company that build the RhinelandArms R22?
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Posted: 11/18/2021 10:13:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the same company that build the RhinelandArms R22? Sort of, the R22 like the AR57 we designed to a point then sub or licensed out. The FG9 will stay in house, we can now make most of the parts. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 10:27:33 PM EDT
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Any chance of you picking the AR57 up again now that they're defunct?
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Posted: 11/19/2021 3:06:46 AM EDT
[#37]
This is awesome in a completely impractical way which means I need one.
 I’ll be watching for updates. I’d love to see a .223 version someday too. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 11:16:23 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CZ mags should not be a problem, I think we have some and will double check. The mag well and separate feed ramp are removable, to allow just about any mag to be used. HK Ump mags are the exception, they are just too wide. Were just about ready to move it from R&D to pre-production samples. Running into delays with some items. Pushing for a Feb 2022 release date on the first gen... full tooling will not be ready until March Do you forsee any difference in the first Gen ones vs the ones made with full tooling? |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 12:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you forsee any difference in the first Gen ones vs the ones made with full tooling? The only major difference will be the ones with full tooling will have the scope rail integral to the receiver( non-removable). The pro is it makes for a more rigid receiver and lowers production cost-in theory. The con-you cant put a custom scope mount on it. We do plan on putting the model info on the top of the receiver like they do the old Mausers, so aftermarket rails might not be viable anyways. Sorry on the AR57, we are super swamped with the FG9 and another rifle right behind it. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:07:02 PM EDT
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We should have some updated pics later this week or early next.
Of all the darnedest things, it looks like we will switch the wood on the pistol grip and rear stock to Cherry. It takes the best black finish and is not that expensive. This may open the door to some sub variant colors. Working to get the cherry wood sets run this week. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:18:22 PM EDT
[#41]
That's pretty cool.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:14:40 PM EDT
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How is the bolt configuration is it compatible with a dias?
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Posted: 12/7/2021 10:54:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should have some updated pics later this week or early next. Of all the darnedest things, it looks like we will switch the wood on the pistol grip and rear stock to Cherry. It takes the best black finish and is not that expensive. This may open the door to some sub variant colors. Working to get the cherry wood sets run this week. I'll take mine without the black finish, please  A Type 1 FG with all-wood furniture is the best of all worlds. |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 11:06:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its funny you bring that [bullpup in 5.56] up, I cant say more for about a month or two. We had a rather good showing at NASGW and it looks like different distributors will get different mag platforms. Were not sure on all the different types yet. Were also getting much better support in place for the new rifles, so things happen smoother and faster. We also met the folks who run UTG and they have some new fantastic bipods that for whatever reason seem to have been designed for this rifle. Those will be a direct option with the carbines. It has been a month or two (technically).
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Posted: 12/7/2021 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has been a month or two (technically). My fault on that, been running behind dealing with the legal/patent stuff on the other rifle. Its got to be soon as its going to SHOTSHOW. Working towards next week. |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 1:29:07 PM EDT
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Here is the latest short version of the Fg9 with all walnut wood, we have made a couple changes and still have a couple more cosmetic changes left but nothing major. Also in the photo is the other rifle we have been working on, its a multi cal for those who like something different.
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Posted: 1/5/2022 3:22:20 PM EDT
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Are we at the "shut up and take my money" stage yet? Please?
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Posted: 1/5/2022 3:55:54 PM EDT
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Yep, if you have a list, I still want on it. Cool.
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Posted: 1/5/2022 4:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, if you have a list, I still want on it. Cool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, if you have a list, I still want on it. Cool. Quoted: Are we at the "shut up and take my money" stage yet? Please? Attached File |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 6:17:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is the latest short version of the Fg9 with all walnut wood, we have made a couple changes and still have a couple more cosmetic changes left but nothing major. Also in the photo is the other rifle we have been working on, its a multi cal for those who like something different. https://www.troupsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/main-rfg-combo.jpg Both are cool. Can you give us some more details on the multi cal rifle? |
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