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Link Posted: 4/12/2019 4:38:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: bestiller] [#1]
Very nice! I have the telescopic brace on my KH9 and love it so much that I’m thinking of taking the SB Tactical braces off of my APC9 and APC9SD and going with a telescopic brace. I run T1s on all my B&Ts as well. The BUIS in the lower FOV bothered me initially on my KH9 so much that I got a set of Bobro Lowrider BUIS, I eventually just got used to the B&T BUIS being in the lower FOV on my GHM9c and now I don’t even notice them.
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 7:28:39 AM EST
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So is the only way means to mount a suppressor on the APC9 is use a tri-lug mount?   I don’t see any provision for a direct thread in any of the pictures.
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 9:17:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dissident:
So is the only way means to mount a suppressor on the APC9 is use a tri-lug mount?   I don’t see any provision for a direct thread in any of the pictures.
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Yes, tri-lug is the only option.
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 11:19:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dissident:
So is the only way means to mount a suppressor on the APC9 is use a tri-lug mount?   I don’t see any provision for a direct thread in any of the pictures.
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You could use a 3 lug to 1/2-28 adapter.   A couple of companies make them.
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 6:44:57 PM EST
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Does anyone know the overall length (for a form 1) of an APC9 with the B&T telescoping stock?

Also, the APC9 PRO isn't listed on eForms yet. Only the APC9. Interestingly my gun is stamped only "APC9" despite it being the new second gen PRO model with the folding charging handle. Should I select APC9 on the eForms website because that's what the gun is marked, or should I manually enter APC9 PRO because that's what it is?
Link Posted: 4/13/2019 8:45:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: FNH] [#6]
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Link Posted: 4/13/2019 9:03:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cashewnut:
Does anyone know the overall length (for a form 1) of an APC9 with the B&T telescoping stock?

Also, the APC9 PRO isn't listed on eForms yet. Only the APC9. Interestingly my gun is stamped only "APC9" despite it being the new second gen PRO model with the folding charging handle. Should I select APC9 on the eForms website because that's what the gun is marked, or should I manually enter APC9 PRO because that's what it is?
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You put whatever is physically roll marked on the gun.
Link Posted: 4/14/2019 2:45:29 AM EST
[#8]
Here's a pic of my APC9 Pro with my Rugged Obsidian .45. I got it from Hollowtrail Armory in Florida as soon as they released. I love it! The fit and finish puts my MPX to shame. Although, it was ~$700 more than my MPX not counting NFA tax.


Here's a pic of it next to my MPX-K SBR for comparison. Still not sure if I want to sbr the APC or not.
Link Posted: 4/16/2019 2:13:16 PM EST
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So B&T uses standard aimpoint mounts, they just use the qd retrofit kit on them (which they make and supply to aimpoint). Went with a small spacer to rise the optic a nudge above the buis. Can’t wait to get it zero’d later this week if the weather holds.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:41:26 PM EST
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Does anyone have a source for inexpensive 30 round mags? Feel free to PM me.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 9:21:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By alyuaz:
Does anyone have a source for inexpensive 30 round mags? Feel free to PM me.
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Depends on what you think is “cheap”, ManVenture Outpost had them for quite awhile at $36.47 but is out of stock at the moment. TarHeel State Firearms has them at $45 in stock. I stocked up on them when they were $60+
Link Posted: 4/21/2019 8:35:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: kells81] [#12]
Stamp came back on APC9-Pro.    Totally different weapon when you add a stock and VFG.  

I will also note that the sights are useless with the factory folding stock setup.  There are bumps on the folded sight for a reason (2 rear 1 front).  I figured out that reason!   I have an ACR stock adapter that I am waiting on an ACR stock to see if that helps out any.  Had to order a Low mount for the MRO I plan on putting on it.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2019 2:38:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By UsubM:
Does anyone know of a shop with the folding charging handle in stock? All the ones I've found are out of stock.

https://live.staticflickr.com/4846/31404466357_5815490a07_h.jpg
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I’m kinda curious about that tri lug brake. Do those actually work or... ?
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 7:45:58 PM EST
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Patiently waiting for the trigger from Geissele's Easter Sale

Link Posted: 4/22/2019 8:10:35 PM EST
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Anyone know what forend stop that's on this APC9? I need one for mine.
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 8:11:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnyRend:
Here's a pic of my APC9 Pro with my Rugged Obsidian .45. I got it from Hollowtrail Armory in Florida as soon as they released. I love it! The fit and finish puts my MPX to shame. Although, it was ~$700 more than my MPX not counting NFA tax.
https://i.imgur.com/umjXHVr.jpg

Here's a pic of it next to my MPX-K SBR for comparison. Still not sure if I want to sbr the APC or not.
https://i.imgur.com/kQlRYYP.jpg
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Sorry, asking about this APC9
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 8:26:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By d0wnShifT:

Sorry, asking about this APC9
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Those look like HB slim grip panels.

LInky..
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 8:47:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:

Those look like HB slim grip panels.

LInky..
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Yep found those but i'm looking for the hand stop.
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 9:41:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda:
Patiently waiting for the trigger from Geissele's Easter Sale

https://i.imgur.com/k4HZWuL.jpg
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Could always just drop in a Larue!  

Side note,  the SBR engraving looks factory.  At first I was like I don’t remember mine having anything there. Then I zoomed in a read it.  Mine is on the underside of the fore end and you have to look pretty damn hard to find it.
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 9:45:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By d0wnShifT:

Yep found those but i'm looking for the hand stop.
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Arisaka maybe?

looks close
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 9:56:30 PM EST
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Anyone find a good soft case that can fit the 30rd mags? I think I'm gonna have to find a case built for a UMP if nothing else.
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 9:56:57 PM EST
[#22]
Thanks!  Looks good for me.
Link Posted: 4/22/2019 10:02:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: EasTexan] [#23]
Originally Posted By d0wnShifT:
Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow:

Those look like HB slim grip panels.

LInky..
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Yep found those but i'm looking for the hand stop.
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Try the Gear Sector hand stop. Its GTG.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2019 10:39:59 PM EST
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It's the HB Industries panels and the Arisaka finger stop.
Link Posted: 4/23/2019 12:26:06 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/23/2019 6:19:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: BS68280] [#26]
Getting it setup for some NV fun.
Link Posted: 4/30/2019 7:33:59 AM EST
[#27]
NV fun looks fun.

My check was cashed on 6/22/18 for my Obsidian 9...tick tock!
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 4:58:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: txbt] [#28]
I bought the B&T folding stock (BT-36305) for my APC9 Pro (I wanted the better cheek weld over the telescopic stock). The hinge on the stock was too tall by 1mm and I had to file it down to get it to fit in the rear end piece on the APC. Since I wasn't able to file completely level the stock is a bit wobbly in the folded position. Ugh. I subsequently noticed the following warning on CustomSmithMFG's website for their folding brace: "This folding Host is the same dimensions as the factory B&T Stock- this means that installing it will require a rubber mallet.". It seems to me that even if you force it in with a rubber mallet, there would be too much friction when folding/unfolding the stock. In any case, if it's supposed to be that tight and require a mallet to install then B&T should include a notice saying so (the stock came in a plastic bag with no instructions). I've contacted B&T about this but haven't heard back. Anyway, I can't stand having a wobbly stock so now I'm just going to buy the telescoping stock and hope the cheek weld is good enough.

I also bought an Eotech EXPS2 and it doesn't fit on the APC9 Pro's NAR rail. I tried another EXPS2 unit and it doesn't fit either. Same result with a Vortex Razor AMG UH-1. I'm starting to think that B&T never tests their products with anything but Aimpoints... So now I'm considering buying a Trijicon MRO (the AC32067 low mount adapter looks like it should work with pretty much any rail, no matter how in or out of spec).
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 9:02:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: humahuma] [#29]
i have the b&t factory stock and i returned it because i thought it wouldnt fit. did not seem physically possible. they told me it would fit with a little force and offered to mail it back or a full refund. i took it back and sure enough i made it fit without mallet. i had to line up at the correct angle and slide in, kinda tricky. opens and closes fine.
Link Posted: 5/4/2019 6:16:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By humahuma:
i have the b&t factory stock and i returned it because i thought it wouldnt fit. did not seem physically possible. they told me it would fit with a little force and offered to mail it back or a full refund. i took it back and sure enough i made it fit without mallet. i had to line up at the correct angle and slide in, kinda tricky. opens and closes fine.
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Same here!  She’s tight on the initial mounting but after some open/closing sessions it’s just right.  I didn’t have to use a mallet but it took some force to get it seated correctly the first time.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 6:12:01 PM EST
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I got the same stock for my APC9, APC223 and HK SP5K. Like everyone said, it’s a tight fit. I called B&T about it and they told me that I may have to file a little off or put some oil. I had to file a little off on all 3 stocks and took my time doing it. Fits perfect.
Link Posted: 5/7/2019 7:16:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By txbt:
The hinge on the stock was too tall by 1mm and I had to file it down to get it to fit in the rear end piece on the APC. Since I wasn't able to file completely level the stock is a bit wobbly in the folded position. Ugh.
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What about using a thin washer shim on the top or bottom to take up the slack.  Like the washer SIG uses on their swiss style stock.

Check out McMaster Carr, they have washer shims from 0.001" thick and up.

https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-washer-shims
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 3:06:28 PM EST
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THSF has the magazine bumper pads in stock if anyone is interested.
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 3:25:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By humahuma:
THSF has the magazine bumper pads in stock if anyone is interested.
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Thanks, I just ordered a few packs
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 8:32:24 PM EST
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Bolt sent to B&T for GLOCK machining in preparation for the new lower...
Link Posted: 5/8/2019 10:16:58 PM EST
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Has anyone tried OG Magpuls on B&T mags?  Not the prettiest but looks like they'd provide cushion for drops.

9MM Magpul
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:06:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By goloud:Bolt sent to B&T for GLOCK machining in preparation for the new lower...
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How much $$$?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:48:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

How much $$$?
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Pretty sure it’s $50.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:25:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By goloud:
Bolt sent to B&T for GLOCK machining in preparation for the new lower...
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Did you just contact B&T USA via phone/email?
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 9:07:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By goloud:

Pretty sure it’s $50.
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I thought when I talked to them they said $100
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 10:25:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bestiller:

Thanks, I just ordered a few packs
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Has anyone used these and liked them? Has anyone actually damaged mags by dropping full/empty onto hard surfaces? I found a +5 metal (Al?) extension the other day, but not sure if i need it, or want the weight. I am hoping that mine doesnt barf out mags when i get to run it suppressed soon (Stamp entering month 11...)
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 3:36:49 PM EST
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I ran my APC9 the other day for IDPA on an indoor range.   I cringed whenever I had to drop a mag because some brainiac decided starting the stages with 6 rounds would be fun.

I did notice that the mags didn't seem to hit too hard when empty.  I ordered some extension pieces though because I could see where a loaded mag done in just the right way could ruin your world.
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 3:58:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EmC_BRD:
Has anyone tried OG Magpuls on B&T mags?  Not the prettiest but looks like they'd provide cushion for drops.

9MM Magpul
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Why not use the B&T bumpers?  About the same price as the magpul and designed for the mags.
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 5:24:10 PM EST
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cheapest b&t bumpers ive seen are $10 each. the magpuls are 3 for $10
Link Posted: 5/10/2019 6:08:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EmC_BRD:
Has anyone tried OG Magpuls on B&T mags?  Not the prettiest but looks like they'd provide cushion for drops.

9MM Magpul
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They fit on the mags, I have not dropped one to see how well they work as a bumper yet.

Link Posted: 5/10/2019 11:18:07 PM EST
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I wish B&it would sell the buttstock pad separately to convert my brace to a stock... I want to sbr this thing so I can throw on a foregrip because the rails get HOT
Link Posted: 5/11/2019 12:19:42 AM EST
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Finally got to shoot mine today (APC9 with brace).  Holy shit it shoots nniiiiicccee!  Accurate as heck too.  Way better than my MPX (8 inch barrel).  Shot it all the way out to 100 meters/yards semi supported standing (truck bed top).  Got a 1.5" 5 shot group using 124 gr Spper GDHP
Link Posted: 5/11/2019 3:50:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DocBach:
I wish B&it would sell the buttstock pad separately to convert my brace to a stock... I want to sbr this thing so I can throw on a foregrip because the rails get HOT
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I thought this is what you needed but just realized it does not fit the APC9

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=465
Link Posted: 5/11/2019 2:08:31 PM EST
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Has anyone gotten the LaRue MBT to work reliably in it?  If so, what did you have to do?
Link Posted: 5/12/2019 12:16:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: kells81] [#50]
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Originally Posted By BS68280:
Has anyone gotten the LaRue MBT to work reliably in it?  If so, what did you have to do?
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Originally Posted By BS68280:
Has anyone gotten the LaRue MBT to work reliably in it?  If so, what did you have to do?
Yes..   Mine dropped into my  APC9 Pro lower.

I would say that the area under the safety caused issues with some triggers I tried.   I posted the ones that dropped in and the ones that wouldn't work somewhere earlier in this thread.

ETA one page back.  
Originally Posted By kells81:
How about a fun game of what 2 stage triggers fit the APC9 Pro?  

Knights-  Yes but does not reset without modification

Gieselle-   Nope..  hammer  does not have retaining pin in the middle to retain the hammer pin.

CMMG-  Nope..  Same issue as the Gieselle but also the rear is too wide

Larue-   Fits and resets without modification but rubs the plastic on the rear.  easy fix

Those are the ones I have laying around

Also thing to note:

Switching the trigger to an AR trigger loses the function of being able to put the weapon on safe in any condition.  You can only safe the weapon when the hammer is cocked like a normal AR.   The factory trigger has a pivot that lets you safe the weapon hammer up or down.
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